Is it fair to consent while drunk but cry "rape" after sobering up?

Question

I'm not talking about women who are drugged or those who clearly refused the sexual activity.

If a woman goes out to a bar, has a bit too much to drink (of her own free will), and decides to go back to a random guy's place and have sex with him (also consentual at the time), should she be allowed to say she was raped after sobering up the next day? Does it matter how drunk she was (i. e. blacked out and can't remember vs. just a little tipsy)?

In my opinion women should take responsibility for how much they drink. If you get wasted and rob a store or crash your car the "I was so drunk that I didn't know what was happening" excuse is not going to help you. So, why should that be a valid excuse when accusing someone of rape? Especially if the guy was drunk too.

Is it fair to consent while drunk but cry

Is it fair to consent while drunk but cry "rape" after sobering up?

Barrabus_the_Free · Accepted Answer

Of course it's not fair. But the law isn't about what's fair, right, or just. It's about serving the interests of those with enough power to get laws passed. And for all the ree-reeing that hatepigs do about equality, patriarchy, rape, etc, the fact is, in the west women are the ones with all the power. I can't remember the exact quote so I'll get as close as I remember: "To determine who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize". Well, that sure isn't white men. Nor Hispanic men. And as long as you tiptoe around about race, black men can be criticized. Who does that leave? That's right, vagina owners.

All these special laws, just for them. They're always victims, men are always the aggressor. Almost automatic child custody plus Mommy's Party Fund Support. Guaranteed to get AT LEAST half of all assets in a divorce, even if she contributed nothing and cheated with dozens of other guys (she gets rewarded for being a worthless piece of shit). Vagimony/'spousal support'... what happened to Strong, Empowered, Independent Womyn who don't need no man? And let's not forget the power to have a man incarcerated or killed with merely an accusation, no actual proof.

The best thing a man can do, other than use a fake name and burner phone and only go to places with alcohol that are at least 100 miles from where he lives, is to not have any kind of interaction with a bitch that's had even one drink. She can go fuck some thug, then because she remembers your face she can accuse you of rape, and you'll be arrested on nothing other than her word.

ToruMatsuda · Accepted Answer

Don't worry @ct_CD even tho I was drunk too I still won't make a police report on your

samhradh_leannan · Accepted Answer

The idea behind this is that a person can't technically provide legitimate consent while they are under the influence of alcohol. In order to completely avoid this issue, you could choose not to have sex with a person who is drunk.

Personally, I'm on the fence about whether or not people should be able to consent while they are under the influence of alcohol. I believe that people should be held accountable for their actions while they're drunk, but it's not necessarily always obvious when a person is drugged as opposed to really drunk. In my opinion, the most important thing is to make sure that all of society is on the same page, so that people can make smart, educated decisions. If drunk sex is going to be considered rape, then people need to be aware of that and take it seriously so that the don't get in trouble. If drunk sex is not going to be considered rape, then people need to be aware of that as well, and they need to understand that they will be held accountable for their actions while drunk so that they can avoid getting drunk if they don't feel comfortable with that. A universal understanding of consent is the key to avoiding misunderstandings and accidents.

CheerGirl38139 · Accepted Answer

It's bogus to "cry rape" but it's also a low life thing to take advantage of someone who's clearly too impaired to make sensible decisions... gender has nothing to do with it.

Don't get so drunk that you have no idea what you're doing.

And if you see a person in that condition, don't take advantage of them.

Both should apply regardless of gender, and this would not ever be an issue. Also, less people would spend the night in jail for stupid shit they do when drunk. ✌

RJGraveyTrain · Accepted Answer

The worst answer ever:

IT DEPENDS.

I know that you're trolling lowkey but legitimately it depends on the circumstance. Because there's a difference between being tipsy, kinda drunk, drunk, and shit faced. If you are too incoherent to make rational, present decisions, then it could potentially be considered rape.

But if you just have a few and go full hoe mode, and you're capable of deciding that this whole situation is cool, it's not.

GnarCute · Accepted Answer

those dumbass bitches that get drunk and want to fucc or give some succ but then claim rape when they sober up deserve to be punished

abigay_ · Answer

Just don't have sex with a drunk girl

estoydorado1 · Answer

I've heard of some people who can be black out drunk (like they literally won't know where they are), but they were coordinated, mostly coherent, and they would be able to ace a sobriety test (excluding the breathalyzer test). Some people have a really high tolerance for alcohol but it still lowers their inhibitions. in my opinion if a woman goes out, get's roaring drunk, and clearly and eagerly consents to sex then she'd better not cry rape (this goes for males too). It's ridiculous to cry rape because you made a long series of poor decisions and now you want to take them back. That's like me impulsively buying something from the store and then crying theft when I realize I look stupid because I can't manage my own money. I just think situations like this take credibility to actual rape and take decent guys out of society. It's just a vicious cycle and people need to start owning up to their BS.

Lolita911 · Answer

No that's rape. the guy clearly knew she was black out drunk and her consent is clouded and she has no idea what she's consenting to. ok yes she's responsible for drinking and getting so drunk but the guy has no right to take advantage of it by taking her home jist to screw her

Neverrrmore · Answer

Not rape at all. Take responsibility for your actions. So you had sex with a random and now feel guilty, gross, dirty, whatever about it? Okay fine, but call it what it was... sex. Your next morning feelings don't change the previous choices that you made.

tdneves · Answer

i think the problem here is what is too drunk. lets be honest if you are really drunk you wouldn't be able to drive a car or rob a store. so my questions is actually not if the person is drunk but how drunk. if she can't barely walk and or undress herslef it is rape for sure. if you are both able to keep a coherent conversation it is not. but since the law as almost no way of separating the two or proving the difference they choose the safe method that puts it all together in one. so O would say if she has been drinking be careful.

misstalia_95 · Answer

If the girl said "yes" at any point, it's not rape. Rape only happens when a woman is penetrated without her consent.

Telekinetic-Potato · Answer

Lol if that shit ever happens to me, I'm gonna claim she raped me. And then I'm gonna have the case thrown away on the grounds that if we were both drunk then, technically we raped each other which isn't rape. . . but it had to have been rape because we were wasted.

Hold on a minute

MaxxiBonn · Answer

Like, if a girl is blind drunk the guy has to be a creeper to try it anyway. He should be decent enough to let her friends know they should keep an eye on her.
If the girl has clearly turned him down prior to getting blind drunk, I'd say that yes, it's rape. I won't go so far as to say I was raped but this is how I lost my virginity at 15. I told the bloke no so many times. I got uo and moved, I shoved him etc. I got drunker and didn't see a problem with just kissing him after a while. Then I remember him giving me a two litre bottle of coke mixed with vodka. We were all at a bonfire. I remember him saying we should go kiss in the bush and then when we were walking back he said, "Let's have sex again."
I was like, again?
I didn't even know it happened. I wouldn't hqve knows if he didn't say that and then gradually remembered stuff over the following week.

wittymilf · Answer

I always think it's tough that society is happy to assume that she was to drunk to consent, but not happy to assume that he was to drunk to stop.

lovelyhoneybones · Answer

I just find it funny how the FEMALE is the only one who can call it rape when they both had sex. Why can't he go to the cops and report rape? Why does it always have to be the female who's the victim.

dwiller943 · Answer

No. It isn't fair. Consenting to sex while willingly drunk isn't rape. But forcing sex onto you whether you were drunk or not is rape.

Nadzzz · Answer

BULLSHIT

pooper89 · Answer

It depends on how intoxicated she is and her relationship with the guy

Redstang88 · Answer

You drive drunk, you're responsible You rob a store drunk, you're responsible You have sex drunk, you're responsible If you can't control yourself when you're drunk, don't drink.

SimplySuperb · Answer

I think that technically in the US at least, you can't get consent from someone who is drunk, but I call this rule bullshit. I mean, if one of the 2 people is clearly out clod drunk and consents to the other who has been hassling the other to have sex, then I would call that a hard decision. Other than that, if you say Yes to sex, you said yes. (Only applies to those who are both minors or both adults)

dave545 · Answer

I clicked on no by accident :/

BeastRB · Answer

Absolutely not

Decentguy · Answer

only a retard woman would do that

Nightinggale · Answer

If she's losing consciousness and blacki g out then yes id call it rape. If she's plastered drunk but can still have a coherent conversation then no its not rape