I don't trust women anymore?

[BraveHeart97]

I've been doing research for a while and I've come to the conclusion that maybe women shouldn't be trusted. I mean just look at who initiates most divorces and who are more likely to cheat: women. Divorces are at a 70% rate and most of them are initiated by women. A woman can easily ruin your life and send you to prison by falsley accusing you of rape and can automatically gain custody of your children. Not to mention that thanks to feminism, women have become bitter and hateful towards men by thinking that all of them are "misogynistic, rapist pigs". Also, I read some articles online about how men were abused by their girlfriends and how women will use love in order to manipulate you into doing stuff for them only for them to only cheat on you behind your back. Now I'm getting the impression that women are just naturally narcisstic sociopaths which makes me question how we survived together for so long after all these years. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate women. I just don't see why society implies that we should always believe a woman's word even though there has been enough evidence to show that women tend to lie a lot.

[Sakura99]

Um not all women are like that... some are but not all u can put a statistic on a person and say u are a certain why when well u aren't, like men can be really abusive and untrustworthy too but it's not like a statistic of men who hurt women are that man. Individual people do those things all genders do those things, because they are that kind of person, not all women or all men are like that so don't generalise a bloody statistic to all women or all men cause not everyone is like that. And for one I actually have a fear of being outside at night thanks to abusive men that have been in my life, but that doesn't mean I think all men are. Hopefully u get what I mean by this. A, so ur references u state are articles not hard evidence, they are there to make u think not to make u believe... omfg they aren't facts they are just reports of apparent real scientific research and results but they aren't the actual thing so they aren't 100% reliable references.

[paleweirdo]

Men have just us much reason to not trust woman as we do with men

Statistics aren't hard evidence
You'd have to know every single female on the planet.. and... they don't, 'they' being whoever gave you those statistics

If it's any consolation my partner and I have both been cheated on by our previous partners but we are both living proof that a man and a woman can both be trusted :)

[strangytie]

Instead of assuming all women are "bitter" feminists, look into Egalitarianism. And, to quote my male friends, "not all" women think of men so lowly, though there are men in this world that deserve the lowest place in hell, as well as the women just like them.

[RJGraveyTrain]

"I've done a lot of research."

Translation: "I've had no REAL experience with REAL down to earth women and decided to listen to biased conclusions.

*Sigh* We lost him so young... good luck.

[BraveHeart97]

I actually did, and they were nothing but a bunch of man haters.

[Matt21]

men like you are the reason women have to initiate divorces... your also ignoring the fact that males are more likely to rape people than women and are generally shittier parents. they are more controlling and abusive as well which leads once again to divorce. So basically you have no idea what you're talking about... at all.

[Anpu23]

Hmmm... women are almost as likely to rape, the difference is only like.5% (source CDC). Single dads are actually statistically better parents, and most domestic abuse is mutual and that which is not is usually women abusing men. Stop with the propaganda.

[missybambi]

Apnu23 -that is false. what research data supports this, which DOI is this from? i have seen nothing in the CDC saying this. i did 8 page report about rape titled "its not a mans problem, it's a cultural problem" in response to an article by Jody Allard of the Washington Post. The CDC was one of my sources and it said nothing like this. If you have no case file examples and report studies to support this, then it is not empirically sound. what your proposing is biologically inconceivable. why did you come on here in the first place if all you wanna do is women-bash? you clearly have your mind made up.

[Matt21]

he is such an excuse of a man... people like him piss me off sooooo much but I know that that's exactly why he posted this.

[Anpu23]

@missybambi to me rape by envelopment is rape, forcing someone to penetrate is raping that person men also have the right to bodily autonomy. No one should be asleep in there bed passed out drunk and have someone pull their bed sheets off, and open their clothing and perform a sexual act on that sleeping person (https://reason. com/blog/2017/01/31/amherst-student-expelled-for-sexual-misc), no one should be forced into the back of a car at gunpoint and made to have sexual intercourse with a stranger (https://www. huffingtonpost. com/2013/09/06/cierra-ross-charged-raping-man_n_3882608. html) no one has the right to force an autistic child to copulate with an animal (https://patch. com/maryland/odenton/autistic-maryland-boy-allegedly-tortured-wants-charges-dropped-against-friends-who-tormented-him) no one has the right to hold someone at gunpoint and "collect" his semen (https://www. deathandtaxesmag. com/247848/man-jacked-off-at-gunpoint-by-three-women-who-wanted-semen/) to me this is RAPE.

[Anpu23]

@missybambi and when you include "forced to penetrate" in the CDC's nation victim survey the numbers of male and female victims of rape the numbers virtually normalize "When those cases were taken into account, the rates of nonconsensual sexual contact basically equalized, with 1.270 million women and 1.267 million men claiming to be victims of sexual violence." (https://www. slate. com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted. html).

Why do I do this? Not to "upset you, no..." There are many many male victims of rape that have never seen justice, and many of them feel that their victimization just doesn't matter:
www.reddit.com/.../
thoughtcatalog.com/.../
totalfratmove.com/.../

[Anpu23]

@missybambi I do not want the next 13 year old boy who calls a rape hot line scared and hurt to be told that he is lying: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1874925-i-did-something-brave-today-i-wanted-to-share-it
34 years later, I am still seeking justice not only for myself but also to those who had to go through stuff like I did.

[Matt21]

these are very unfortunate cases but unfortunately that's only one side of the story. it's important to raise awareness that this happens but why harm female victims by doing so? the truth is that rape can happen to anyone so let's just accept that and move on.

[missybambi]

@Anpu23 you have not linked one singlr article of empirical evidence backing what you say. huffington post is considered an online new soucre. not a database. do you know what a DOI is? I am not debating what constitutes rape. i have first hand experience about that and still defended the mans pount of view about "rape culture" which proves that yer theory that all women are coniving deviants is BS. you clearly have a bug up yer butt about women. i am the opposite. guys want nothings but sex 99.9% of the time in my eyes. im notta gonna resent that tho. there are reasons our culture is this way. it still hurts when you think the opposite sex views you as inferior when you bust yer butt just to do the right thing.

[missybambi]

@Anpu23 You cited a source without a year so this doesn't help me retrieve whatever research study they did to support this claim.

[Anpu23]

@missybambi Here is that study:
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm
again I argue that "forced to penetrate" is rape, I'll let you compare those figures.

[missybambi]

@Anpu23 And I am looking at the CDC "datasheet" that I think you are looking at. It does not say women and men rape equally. It says that of all surveyed rape victims, "4.8% of men reported they were made to penetrate someone else at some time in their lives". You are misinterpreting the facts. This means that they surveyed a buttload of women (notionally) and a buttload of men. 4.8%, of that national survey, reported this. Meaning...95.2% of the men did NOT say they have been forced to penetrate. This fact sheet also distinguishes that "sexual violence" has different rating than rape.. "In a nationally representative survey of adults: Nearly 1 in 5 (18.3%) women and 1 in 71 men (1.4%) reported experiencing rape at some time in their lives."(CDC, 2012)<-that is how you correctly cite a source. Either way, I'm not one to take interest in debates. Ignorance can't be argued with. What you choose to believe is up to you.

[Anpu23]

again I contend that forced to penetrate IS rape. If you strictly define rape as forced penetration then of course women are raped more than men due to biological necessity. I wonder why you have an issue with men and women raping at roughly the same rate? It seems that, perhaps, you are the one with the agenda. If gender is strictly a social construct then we should not see a gender disparity in propensity for violence, think about it.

[Anpu23]

Im sorry I ment a propensity for violence between the biological sexes

[Matt21]

if you look at stats for sexual harassment you will see the exact same trend...

[missybambi]

@Anpu23 I have a problem with the concept because men average at larger heights and weights and additionally pose the hurdle for women of the penis being a noodle (which is hard to shove into something) whereas women have no biological prerequisite that makes forced intercourse harder. I already told you my agenda. And the CDC is what coined that definition because they are the ones who retrieved it from those databases. You are more than welcome to interpret it as you wish. Like I said, you are going to be a lonely person with that attitude. Are you under the impression that males don't hold any sort of cross cultural patterns that turn women off? You are further reinforcing this concept that "it's a mans world" because yer dissing on the ladies meanwhile ignoring that males come with imperfections and annoyances as well. Nothing you say will convince me that rape is equally distributed between males and females. nothing.

[Anpu23]

I suppose we'll just have to wait for the British study on male victims of rape to be published. As there is no solid data yet, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[Bilo007]

oh man.. don't know what to say. at 19 and you have already formed an opinion on women? I pity the girl you are going to be with.

That's your opinion and you have every right to state it but jeez :)

[ragequeen]

Some women can't be trusted. You just have to find the goodies. I know for sure I am a trustworthy woman and I will be both loyal and pleasureous for my one man in the future. Good luck! :)

[midnightcavern01]

I think looking online has given you the wrong perceptive about woman. This only relates to a small percentage of woman and if you still wish to believe we are different then why don't you look to your friends or maybe get to know someone and sees their views and personality on the subject. You may change your mind.

[1234lulu]

leave all this. find a girl n love her like a princess.

[idontknow20]

How to attract a girl whom a man would treat like a princess?

[1234lulu]

aww...

[idontknow20]

Hmm. Thoda toh attract karna padega na Ladki Ko... You can't expose your heart and treat every woman like a princess na..

[1234lulu]

yea.!!

[idontknow20]

How to be appealing to a woman initially?

[Mardidubz]

I actually agree with you, most women prolly do lie and cheat, but u need to find the one type that does not, and surprisingly... there actually are girls that are amazing out there somewhere, she just has not came across your path.

[Chickengirl2001]

REALLY I've always thought the same thing about guys?

[Jen_Jen]

Does this make you a happier person?

[BraveHeart97]

Not really, feel pretty much the same actually.

[midorfeed]

maybe just dont be a douche

[Matt21]

*stands up and applauds your comment* I really couldn't have put it any better myself!

[BraveHeart97]

I'm not a douche. You're just being judgmental.

[midorfeed]

says the one who posted this?

[Matt21]

if you have multiple people calling you a douchebag you might want to consider the possibility of it being the truth ;)

[BraveHeart97]

What's wrong with my post? Can't find ways to counter my argument?

[midorfeed]

i just didn't see the point in repeating what matt21 said tbh

[BraveHeart97]

Except no one here is calling me a douche and I'm still waiting for a valid argument from you.

[midorfeed]

see maybe this is why you dont trust women though like you're beig a douche right now acting all uppity and shit lmao

[BraveHeart97]

What are you talking about? I made a valid criticism and you haven't brought anything useful. Just denial and playing the blame game.

[Matt21]

except it's not a valid criticism... most people can see that.

[midorfeed]

you literally came in here going on about how women are terrible and awful yet im the one "playing the blame game"? if you really think that way about women you must have been rejected by every women youve tried to advance on and never actually given any a chance. for someone to be in that situation it must ultimately be your personality. for someone to even make a post like this in the first place generalizing an entire gender as "manipulative sociopaths", you must be an asshole to even think that makes any sort of sense or is acceptable to do.

[midorfeed]

plus most of the questions youve posted are pretty much proving that you have no experience with women. so nothing coming from you is "valid".

[BraveHeart97]

This isn't about me or my experiences with women. How come feminist are able to paint all men with psychopaths and yet, when I do it to women I'm treated as some kind of criminal? Statistics don't lie. Why do you keep denying when the proof is already there?

[midorfeed]

why are you listening to feminists lmao not even women listen to feminists. feminists are crazy shut in cunts that know nothing about the world. dont bae your entire opinion of women off a stupid batch of inbreds.

[BraveHeart97]

But they DO listen to feminists even if they say they don't. I've met some women who had shown obvious bitter hatred for men. In real life and online. There even was a feminist "protest" at my college the other day that had women carrying up signs that said "teach men not to rape" and " men are misogynistic pigs". I even tried debating with them and they started calling me a "rape apologist" and a "woman abuser". One even threatened to call the cops on me and tell them that I sexually harassed her if I didn't leave. So no, don't tell me that some if not most women are like that.

[midorfeed]

you seem like a piece of shit though like i already pointed that out so i dont know what to tell you

[BraveHeart97]

Oh I see, I guess you're one of them then.

[midorfeed]

im actually really not like i fucking hate feminism but you truly do seem like a piece of shit so

[midorfeed]

"And one with an iq that has not even pass the tenths digits" did you proofread that before you hit send lmfao

[BraveHeart97]

It's gag not an essay. Plus, I was typing fast but of course you're problem too dumb to realize that.

[midorfeed]

Naah lol you completely bastardized the English language with that sentence, no excuses for that one lmfao

[BraveHeart97]

Wow, pointing out how bad someone's grammar is. Highly original. Lol get fucked. You're just another waste of oxygen. You're the reason why this workd is fucked up. So do us all a favor and juml off from the tallest building you can find.

[midorfeed]

You claim my iq is bad but then you get severely fucking butthurt when i point out how terrible your English is? how old are you actually lmao? you seem about 12.

[BraveHeart97]

Yeah, talking to you is becoming a waste of my time. Either you are in complete denial of my post or you just don't understand.

[sodababe]

Cool story bro, thumbs up for that 👍

[ADFSDF1996]

I'm sure there are many decent women around, I think you are feeling some anger because of what you've looked at. I understand that there is misandry but not every woman is a misandrist.

[This_is_my_username]

This is a great place for you!!! Welcome

[spnsfi]

Dude come on, your basing this off of research, and not actual experiences with women?

[anonymiss15]

soooo date a man.

[ZOOON]

Lol don't tell that poor boy to do that

[imtheman0048]

couldn't agree more I feel like getting married is such a crazy ridk to take. and you can't deny evolution we evolved a certain way on purpose and we are still animals. period. no amount of civilization will change that.

[missybambi]

there's a difference between "articles" & "evidence". very few rapes are falsified. custody law vary by state and are not easy to win. guys can seem bad too depending which articles you read. girls can be catty nd self centered-true- sounds like what you need is a real woman to turn things around for you.

[Anonymous]

but there r always good ones out there

[Anonymous]

I can agree with you on that. Thread carefully. Just know that there are some mentally healthy women out there who doesn't seek to ruin your life, or their children's life for that matter by taking away their fathers.
Some precautions you are allowed to follow, and look for red flags, but know that this doesn't apply to all girls.

[Anonymous]

Okay, what do you want us to do about it?

[Anonymous]

Don't believe everything you read on the internet believe in your experiences because I'm not like that at all I hate people who lie and cheat so why would I do the very thing I hate

[Mardidubz]

Exactly, you'd be a hypocritical bitch :) But you are in fact not :)