[TRIGGER ALERT] Do you find it ironic how MGTOW evolves?

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DISCLAIMER: This question is not meant to offend actual MGTOW (as long as they are the rational sorts like one of our GAGer nightingale) nor is it meant to attack MGTOW. Mockery is to be expected! This question is about the extremism of MGTOW. Read at your own risk or leave now.

[TRIGGER ALERT] Do you find it ironic how MGTOW evolves?

1. Don't you find it ironic how MGTOW stands for Men Going Their Own Way, yet they can't get out of their own way by focusing so much on women?
If it is meant to avoid, ignore and isolate yourself from women, why then all the focus on women? I haven't seen men being so overly obsessed with women outside of MGTOW. (Except for me myself.)

2. Don't you find it ironic how certain members of MGTOW brand every being with a vagina between the legs of a human being the same like they have met them all? Basically it goes like this: You have a dick? If so are you red pill? If yes, then you're cool. If not, then either join them or be branded a *GASP* BLUE PILL WHITE KNIGHT PUSSY WHIPPED BETA WIMP!
Are you a woman? YOU ARE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL AND THE SPAWN OF SATAN! NO EXCEPTIONS - YOU ARE A WOMAN!!! 👩👿 ALL WOMEN ARE EVIL AND GOLD DIGGERS AND CHEATERS AND FEMINISTS AND!!!
(What about their daughters, mothers and sisters?)

Basically they see a bunch of feminazis hating on men (kill all men, men are pigs...) and believe, that every single woman on our planet is like them.

3. Some MGTOW tend to blame "normal" human mistakes if committed by women as - typical women. Car crash? They don't call it an accident - they call it typical women if the driver was a woman. If it was a man then the man is just being called an idiot or something.

And then they say they do not hate women. 😂😂😂
They just don't want to have any business with women BUT they cannot get their minds out of women.

This comes from me, a former MGTOW. I can reek already the NEED to slam that keyboard and call me out by names such as traitor, super white knight, beta male, disposable tool, blind sheep etc 🤣

IAmBlueThunder · Accepted Answer

Hey bro, thanks for the mention. This is my new account lol. To address your points though

1. Sort of. Many MGTOW start off with an obsession almost over what they perceive as injustices pertaining to women. This usually subsides after a while. Although technically speaking, this isn't in contradiction with the principles of MGTOW. The "going your own way" part refers to not marrying women and among some members refers to not dating them or even sleeping with them. As for thinking about/talking about women, that isn't ever really mentioned.

2. Again, sort of. Some MGTOW are extreme and crazy, yes lol. But some of us see women as "being all the same" in the sense that every woman has instincts within her that are natural such as: Hypergamy (dating up), seeking a man for his resources and wealth, etc. In my personal view, women DO all have these instincts but that doesn't make them "bad." Men have instincts too.

3. Again, I sort of agree. Yes, it's a human mistake to wreck, but to deny that women are often terrible drivers in general just seems to be dishonest to me.

4. Same as point 1.

RazmanianDevil · Accepted Answer

Being a true MGTOW doesn't mean hating women or even hating people who would do anything for a woman. It's about self preservation we put ourselves and our freedom above everything else hence why it's called "Men Going Their Own Way" whether that way is avoiding women in general or just avoiding children and marriage. Truly adopting the MGTOW lifestyle doesn't mean no sex and no dating it just means no kids no marriage and nothing that could threaten or inhibit our freedom. The MGTOW you see that are going after Feminists are usually the ones who only want to be part of something after a string of bad luck with women. Just as every group has their extreme's MGTOW extremes are those guys.

kaylaS91 · Accepted Answer

YES. I agree very much and am astounded at how all the men who use fighting for their own 'rights' as a justification on projecting all the bitterness from their lack of success with women believe in them having an actual cause that they throw all reason and logical thinking in the process.

Warmapplecrumble · Accepted Answer

I agree with you. Not all women are bad. Not all men are bad.  Feminism and MGTOW are irrelevant forms of propaganda keep the heterosexual couple from enjoying love and relationships.

missgatsby · Answer

Lmaooo this is funny because I was JUST thinking the same thing.
I love how some MGTOW guys (on here) will comment on female behavior posts and mention in every SINGLE response that they've "gone MGTOW". Those are not any better than radical misandristic feminist.

Lady_Frost · Answer

Thank goodness someone mentioned this! Those bitter men spread their own bitterness onto the other men too, not just us. They are dividing us all apart and then "make the rest of us pay for it".
And yes i find it weird how they think they are going their own way but cannot stop complaining about us as a whole and stereotyping us all by having experience with just a few bad women and applying it to us all. Ridiculous! How is this going your own way?

If men as much as hate women then leave the women be for goodness sake! Nobody has to be with us.

I wouldn't take them seriously.

killjoy2017 · Answer

Is this a real thing or did you make it up?

SarahsSummer · Answer

These are questions I have often asked until I just realized MGTOW is such a small part of the population, I decided to just focus on the rest of regular, women loving, level headed guys.

sovetskii13 · Answer

MGTOW community keeps some of its focus on women to warn or protect future men from getting caught in the female trap.

Immortal_God_King · Answer

I think you'd be hard pressed to actually offend one of us, but then, I suppose the moniker has grown in popularity enough to get used by posers and twats with thin skins.

Personally, I am one of what ever some of the radical ones call a lunatic hardliner. I know many who participate in the dark corners of the internet known as MGTOW sites who have girlfriends, even wives. Me? I don't talk to women in person if I can possibly avoid it. Won't have a female doctor, because I wish not to die, and would sooner punch myself in the dick than get into any vehicle operate by any of the Y-chromosome deficiency sufferers. I even stopped flying; see, once you're on the plane, if you then realize you have a female pilot, you can't just get off. I literally drive across the country rather than fly.

Which I'm guessing might cause one to beg the question, "Why?"

I have been incarcerated twice thanks to false accusations. Accusations which were proven so egregiously false as to lead to my accusers being similarly punished. Now, I have had a good relationship with a woman. I say again, *a* woman. I still think fondly of her, and would not have ended it if we'd been going longer and it would have been appropriate to ask her to relocate with me or to forego relocating for my job.

So why avoid them now? Why not try to find another like her?

That was after a decade of dating, and well over 200 different girls dated. Finding one of the rare few that actually weigh what they should and isn't a cunt is hard enough. But the risk involved... I have been threatened a third time, by a woman who struck me, with another false accusation. I know enough about what happens when a woman claims her man hit her... he's going away in county property.

I'm just done. The reward, while with the one I mentioned, was great, but unfortunately the risk is far too disproportionately high to be bothered.

It's simple economics: risks versus rewards. Supply and demand... I have no demand for what the low quality of supply costs.

JimRSmith · Answer

Good work. Was thinking of doing something similar myself to this, but you beat me to it.  Agree with all of those points, well written.

HungLikeAHorsefly · Answer

The whole red pill vs blue pill thing is so beta it's pathetic.

MalesGOD1 · Answer

At 26 your reported age you know nothing about men who choose to avoid women in one way or another or totally. I am pretty sure your a woman who is angered and feels threatened by men who chose to avoid women. But if you are you you claim. I don't believe you ever considered yourself one because if you did your research you would have never changed your mind. These men are NOT a part of a group, organization or movement but women and people like you like to classify in ways that are positioned so you have the best position to attempt to belittle and make fun of them. These men are not focused on females they are focused on laws unfair to men everything that is unfair to them always end up in the courtrooms.
Feminism in the 1970's accepted they could not force/coerce/cajole/manipulate/belittle men to into submission. So they turned to the judicial branch and laws were passed to turn the courts/judges into their bullies forcing men into submission. Today if a women can get a man into court (and they do lie a LOT) the man will loose most everything he has to her and had practically zero chance of a fair settlement he has to just sit there and have his life ruined and not just for a few years, till he dies. Better yet go down to a divorce court for a day and witness the horrors you may go through someday. Classic line here. "its not that all women will use laws unfair to men its that all women can" And this is just the divorce part. The false rape accusations will terrify you once you accept it's real and you could easily end up in prison with just one lie from a woman. Almost zero chance of proving innocents. The proof is out there and there is a lot of it.

ThisDudeHere · Answer

"1. If it is meant to avoid, ignore and isolate yourself from women, why then all the focus on women?"
-Because they are technically the cause of most of their problems.

"2. Don't you find it ironic how certain members of MGTOW brand every being with a vagina between the legs of a human being the same like they have met them all?"
-Not all that unreasonable when feminists label all men with the same derogatory names. Or propose outlandish ideas that men should be taught not to rape.

Equating all members of an enemy group as being the same is to be expected. Especially if you've interacted with many and have only had bad experiences. Your faith in them will be diminished and it is only reasonable that you no longer trust them.

Deuteros · Answer

Most MGTOW men don't post anything on the internet. What you see is the small minority that are angry and post to vent.

Judging all MGTOW by this small minority is misleading. Most of us just want to be left alone. One big part of MGTOW is in fact not trying to change things, if you're on Youtube posting videos like sandman and others, you arn't really being MGTOW IMHO.

I would say the majority of MGTOW men haven't even heard of MGTOW. They just make a decision (most of the time it's not even a conscious decision) to avoid women and the trouble they cause. They do a cost/benefit analysis and simply walk away.

It's normal for men to not talk about things like this, why would you think it's the average MGTOW that posts? It's not, it's only a tiny few and so what you perceive as MGTOW isn't.

The only time I've ever posted about MGTOW is in response to misleading representations such as what I see here. Other than that I simply go my own way.

I often wonder why this makes women so angry, hey i'm not catcalling you, I'm not annoying you asking you out for dates, I'm not even LOOKING at you. All I'm doing is trying to limit contact for my own protection. If a women walking alone at night in a bad area of town avoided contact with a strange guy no one would fault her for doing so as it's a completely rational decision. Some men are dangerous, just as some women are. They just cause damage in different ways.

Women have become quite toxic and dangerous to men, it's a rational choice to limit contact. Simple as that.

Maik567 · Answer

MGTOW is basically the male equivalent of feminists. I'd love to see all MGTOW's and feminists locked up into a giant room together and just see what happens.

BasilBrushSays · Answer

Well no that's just people's misconceptions of mgtow, it just sounds like you've made it up or assumed them. MGTOW talk about feminism because men everyday are oppressed through dating, marriage and relationships due to the system we have in the west.

Dargil · Answer

I am, in effect, MGTOW but I need no support group. I just decided that I would rather do without than accept (again) what Western women have become... by and large useless except for easy sex but are too damn dangerous. Like Opioids, you know you are addicted (to pussy in this case) but you know you will ultimately suffer injury, such as being slaughtered in divorce where judges favor women even if they are serial adulteresses. So I shopped in The Orient and Latin America in English speaking areas and Voila! Been with her a while now. I wake up every day feeling I have cheated fate.

alice55 · Answer

Really great take, I have nothing else to say ^-^

joeblow123 · Answer

Do you say the same thing to feminists.

Ghost141414 · Answer

Calm down, idiot

Lance1965 · Answer

The so-called MGTOW movement has developed a life of its own by a lot of media-driven BS. It started as just a lot of men pissed off after being screwed over in divorce courts which is totally fair enough. Unless you have lost everything and put into a lifetime of debt you never deserved you will never understand what that is like but what you are seeing now is a lot of extremists much the same as you see feminist extremists.

bolverk · Answer

Please try to remember that some of these guys who identify as MGTOW could have come through a painful divorce or break up so their emotions could be a bit raw.

Also a lot of the most vocal are in the minority and they have to 'vent' at whom ever happens to trip their switch at the time, just as there are those women who identify as Feminist react in exactly the same way.

People are people and all their reactions will be different.

[TRIGGER ALERT] Do you find it ironic how MGTOW evolves?

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