Why do the majority of straight males think gay male sex is gross?

[Fitzroy]

The concept of anal sex is at the top of a list of oxymoronic factoids for me when when trying to understand heterosexual males' self-identification. The majority of heterosexual males claim that they are 'grossed out by' gay males because of the sex and yet the majority of these same heterosexual males pressure their female sex partner for anal sex. Also, they claim that they, as het-men that they are not meant to be attracted to other males and that this is why they are so homophobic . Some even state it is for fear that they may become gay. Yet these same males assume that 'all (heterosexual) women are a little bit bi' . Heterosexual males majorally want women to accept their manliness and classify well-kempt males as girlie and metro-sexual suggesting that gay males are excessively clean but again claim that their disgust with gay men is due to the 'grossness' . What's this really all about? Do you think it's more biological or sociological?

[Anonymous]

its social, political. you're taught what is normal, what is abnormal, etc. and you internalize that. also being gay is a social and political issue, people are taught that its sinful, an abomination, etc. that's a bulk of it. and there's also the socialization of gender, and the defense of macsulinity. you will find a lot of straight men, especially younger or immature and homophobic/anti-gay of any age, constantly defending their masculinity. terms like the f bomb (you know what I'm talking about) are used to insult and degrade their image as a man, their masculinity, which is a socially and politically constructed idea. its almost a natural psychological reaction for them to learn to hate, be disgusted by, or see something seriously wrong with male behavior that doesn't remain within the context of masculinity and the way they have been taught is how men should behave. along with this often comes the automatic feeling that anything associated with the contradiction to that ideal is wrong, and since its easy to deem a sexual act as disgusting, gay (which is wrong thing to be, and a threat to their image of masculinity) sex is disgusting.

also its the whole "i could never see myself doing that" thing where people try to imagine themselves doing it. even the most accepting people say that, which is again a psychological defense of their sexuality. even women I know will say that they don't have a problem with homosexuals (and they genuinely dont, the ones I'm referring to specifically) but they can't image doing it themselves, and that's usually what they mean. its disgusting for them. although much of what I just said about men still applies deep in the social psyche of things.

i don't think its biological at all. there's nothing in biology that makes you find something disgusting except for individual reactions to specifically gruesome or grotesque displays, reactions. when it comes to sexuality, most people are bisexual on some level and far more self identified straight men would be more open to gay sex actually, in nature, without the social, religious, and political implications, or simply not find it disgusting even if they didn't want to be a part of it.

im not into gay male sex myself but I don't think its anymore gross than oral or anal sex, etc. between lesbians or between heterosexual couples.

[ziggler]

wrong. its biological I've been attracted to men and gay p*rn is one of those things that grosses me out. same reason why my girlfriend hates lesbian p*rn it grosses her out. biological just not into women and I'm not into men.

[Opinion Owner]

nothing you said proves that its biological. (or that I'm wrong) not being into something doesn't make it gross you out first of all, specifically when its not the act itself but simply the people committing it. there's nothing in biology that I've learned about that supports that. if I missed something, let me know but "i don't like it so it must be biological" isn't going to convince anyone with half a brain. what proof or explanation do you have that its biological?

[Fitzroy]

If 'straight' is natural to prevent die off of the species,on this same line of reasoning, what of cloning? Artificial insemination?( yes, it involves sperm but arousal is not needed for this form of procreation) What is natural? Our own cells kill themselves to keep us healthy and yet that would seem counter-productive in the same way as homosexuality. link

[rotinaj10]

There actually have been studies where people were shown pictures of different things while being hooked up to machines monitoring brain activity and there times when straight were exposed to ”gay” type pictures and while they subjects themselves didn't consciously think anything wrong with the pictures the monitor showed they were having adverse reactions.

[Opinion Owner]

that does not = biological. Social and political implications affect psychology. They have also hooked people up to machines and studied brain activity in whether or not people in certain occupations respond more to the offer of money for their performance in some way than other people. They’ve studied brain activity in peoples reactions to certain racial groups and certain ethnicities and religions. You're telling me this is all biological? Lmao. Okay, we’ll just agree to disagree then.

[oOsweet~o~nessOo]

I would think it's both psychological and sociological - maybe a bit biological.

Men identify themselves within their masculinity - it's instinctive ( biologial aspect.)

Men are reinforced with ideas that dictate what exactly would define said masculinity. ( Sociological)

Men then incorporate those ideas, with standard ideas of masculinity ( strenght, stoicness etc,) and get a developed idea of what masculinity " is " persay.

Homosexuality in men, goes against more than a few of those ideas, giving the illusion that a guy man is not masculine and therefore does not " fit in" with the realm of ' men'.

( Psychological,)

Even gay men kissing ' grosses' straight men out. It doesn't even have to be sex, could be the two guys holding hands, or acting in more feminine ways or whatever to cause a bout of awkwardness to the male psyche.

Not always - but I'm guessing it's frequent enough that this phenomenon exists in the first place.

I always hear more guys straying from gay male friends for fear of their own masculinity being degraded or something, or calling each other f**ots or gay in a derogative sense.

Men just don't take to homosexuality so smoothly, for these reasons and probably more.

Dunno.

Not all straight men are a bunch of raging homophobes - I'd say the majority of them don't give a damn about where any other guy's penis is going but his own.

It's just the homosexual acceptance issue had a lot more hostility from men. There still is that sense but meh - people learn to get over it.

[ziggler]

Umm its biological if your not into men your not going to be watching gay p*rn.

[oOsweet~o~nessOo]

the fuq does that have to do with anything? Please understand what I wrote before you go posting off of some outlandish notion.

[lilwhimpy]

Your argument, question, and point is so invalid it makes me doubt my faith in humanity.

What makes you think heterosexual males are the only ones grossed out by gay sex, and what makes you think gay sex = anal sex? That's pretty biased and ignorant.

First of all, There's just as much, or even more, heterosexual women who are grossed out by the thought of gay sex than men.

second, That's how it is, it's psychological, sociological and biological, People can't accept what's not "normal", although I believe there's more to it, also, they have anal sex with women because in our society that's the norm, it's a man penetrating a woman, not that different from casual sex.

go do your homework and get educated before throwing these stupid questions and remarks everywhere.

[kholland65]

Its both B and C imo.

Let's be honest, being born gay is not natures intention. If it was, we would die out as a species because we would not produce. Naturally and biologically we are meant to be attracted to and want to have sex with the opposite gender. In my opinion, I almost consider homosexuality a birth defect, sort of like someone who is born with the opposite genitals. In other words, we are not meant to be born gay (or with opposite genitals), and the reason I know that, is because living things are naturally born in such a way as to propagate reproduction so anything that goes against that is more or less a flaw.

However, regardless of our biological predispositions, our attitudes are still independent of our biology. The fact that homosexuality in men is less acceptable than in women, is a sociological phenomena.

More specific to the idea of anal sex, some guys are really a fan of doing it with a girl either (myself included).

It's starts with biology, which predisposes us to certain behaviors and expectations based on what is intended and common of our species, then our biological behaviors are then altered or exacerbated by outside social factors.

[ziggler]

Just because its less acceptable in men you still look at statistics and there are roughly the same bi men/gay men as there are lesbians/bi women it makes no difference whether one is more accepted or not. Oh and women making out with women is not being bi or lesbian.

[kholland65]

Well of course, because being born gay is biological, society cannot dictate what people are born with. Just because we hate down syndrome or something doesn't mean that people will all of a sudden stop being born with it. The statistics for what % of the population is gay/bi will never change, but attitudes will. Women making out with women is lesbian, its just more accepted in our society than being gay for some reason. I find both just as odd.

[Fitzroy]

Another link on 'nature's intentions' link

I am prone to believe biology comes (pardon the pun) first and that sociology is so subtle that people don't realize how much their environment has affected what they see as their individual selves. I believe his about any pattern of behavior-our inner selves fighting against our upbringing,our family rules fighting against a challenging group environment.I am unsure as to which causes the pattern.

[Belgie]

I think it's sociological, simply because there have been times and places throughout history, where man on man love was a widely practised and widely accepted form of love.

To me, that indicates there is no inherenat biological "disgust" to the act.

Like many things, fear of the unknown can lead to hate. And we live in an age where there is a lot of (quite frankly) bullsh*t taught and thought about gay men.

Such as it is a choice.

Or that it is catching in some way.

Or to be honest, that it is somehow effeminate or emasculating to be gay.

There are no gay male role models, really, who embody traditionally male character attributes of strength, risk taking, aggression, masculine charm, etc... There's no gay equivalent of Jason Bourne or Ethan Hunt, no matter what Tom Cruise may or may not get up to in his private life.

Even the few gay soldiers who can be said to be legitimate heroes, are not exactly able to flaunt their homosexuality as part of their admirable traits. They are heroes despite being gay, not because of it.

Sorry it took a while to see this question, but I thought it deserved a sensible answer. (They were in short supply.)

[Fitzroy]

Thank you. It's appreciated. I think a lot of interesting points have been discussed.I do,however agree in that many of these comments in their defensive one-sidedness are just proving the deep insidousness of the social conditioning as opposed to discussing its reasons and variants. Here's another link for those of us genuinely curious on this subject. link

[zeroth88]

its a relatively new concept. Inter-racial sex used to be "wrong" when it was first known, but now its fine.

Do you find lesbian sex gross? By moral standards, you would say no, but how would you feel when you see it? tbh when I saw male gay sex, I looked away cause I thought that's what you do as a society and also because I fear I would like it.

Gay relationships is still not accepted because it is not enforced or encouraged by our parents or teachers. If we and our peers are subjected to the same sex education as well as "normal" sex education then it would be more accepted I think. But hell most parents are from the era of anti-gay. Hell mine is still from an era of anti-mix relationship.

Soon people would ask the question "is inter-species sex wrong" - think ET and Katy Perry getting it on.

Btw my parents don't find inter-racial relationship wrong, they just doesn't want any mix race grand children =). I challenged her on it but she has selective hearing. ¬_¬ we will see.

[Fitzroy]

I'm bisexual. However,there are definitely sex acts,activities and body types both male and female gay and straight that 'gross me out' - for instance flabby bodies (my underarms,and most women's) as well as puffed up bodies ( like muscles on men that look like mamaries or bloated faces),ether from fat or the way a person's muscles form. Yes, I agree, this truly gender-queer homophobic popular perception is sloooowly changing. It's better even since I was a child.

[fightsystems]

it just doesn't appeal to me. what is not natural is not appealing to most. I don't want to have anal sex with a girl that doesn't appeal to me let a lone two guys at it.

but I don't care in general what people do in their lives, it has no relevance to me, just don't preach about it me or let it affect my life. gay men don't disgust me. just don't want too see sexual acts performed by two men.

[fightsystems]

i do like gay people as friends, because I do find them nice and funny people generally.

[Phoenix1991]

i think because of immaturity, gay sex, straight sex, all the same.

Either way, I wouldn't want to watch two men make love , I rather not, I don't go "EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" like a 8 year old just discovering what sex is, that's their business. People need to learn to give others space and respect.

[Brando]

It's not anal sex that turns me off, it's that I don't prefer seeing two men do it with each other. I'm not homophobic, I just have sexual preferences. Because I would be interested in doing anal sex on a girl doesn't mean that I automatically am alright with seeing guys do it since it's their only form of penetration.

[queefy]

The tough Spartans were bisexual. And so was Alexander the Great.

Funny how those ancient warriors had no trouble giving another guy fellatio

[ziggler]

your bisexual. I'm straight so gay p*rn grosses me out. Its biological.

[queefy]

zig, I think it's also socialogical. Some guys are born straight but then they learn to enjoy gay sex. Least it's that way with some of us girls.

[ziggler]

well maybe in prison but most guys won't do that. same with most girls who are straight won't even try lesbian sex.

[queefy]

Percentage is higher for girls than boys

[TheGodEmperorLeto]

it's sociological for sure there. Lesbianism is a bit more accepted than gay males. Sadly. It's stupid.

[ziggler]

not much higher 1-2%. most women won't do it with another girl. thankfully.

[ziggler]

Your warrior analogy is retarded because not all warriors did that. FACT is guys giving felltio to another guy doesn't appeal to most men. Again cunnlingus doesn't appeal to most women either (when they are the ones giving it).

[queefy]

zig, you're retarded. Read your history, you homophobic shythead.

[bDizzie]

Women can be bi but a guy who goes both ways is gay. Call it a double standard that works out in our favor. A lot of girls do it for attention. To quote Seinfeld, "a woman's body is a work of art, a mans body is utilitarian. It's for getting around, like a jeep."

[ziggler]

a males body is just as much a work of art looks like you don't go to the gym brah.

[bDizzie]

Are you upset because I don't suck d*** brah?

[ziggler]

no I'm just confident in my sexuality.

[G-Daz]

I have no interest in anal sex in general, I don't want my d*** in the sh*t hole so seeing it with two guys is twice as bad.

[TheGodEmperorLeto]

cause the male body is ugly. Female bodies are curvy in good ways, male bodies are just lumpy and meh -_q it's likely more sociological though.

[TheGodEmperorLeto]

Also, not every guy cares about anal sex. I don't.

[ziggler]

thats your opinion if you call a male body ugly.

[TheGodEmperorLeto]

Truth, I never said it wasn't. Don't read into things that aren't there. Hell, I even said that was sociological cause I know that prior to our culture the male body was praised(from ancient times into the renaissance) and, hell, more bulky women were praised for their "beauty" where today they'd be shamed. I'm no fool to that, but the male body is still ugly imo and I figured that me stating that would be obvious it was my opinion. Especially since I added" it's more sociological"

[jay6994]

IMHO I think men are grossed out by sodomy because culture and family and society have a negative prejudice towards it. simple as that. Romans used to indulge openly with such behaviors. Many other civilizations have also preformed such things.

I will be speculating, but I think it was only when Christianity had become popular where sodomy and homosexuality was deemed unfit and immoral.

[Blubb]

Because a lot of men are very immature. Sad but true.

[Moloch]

It's gross because I find it disgusting. I don't mind it if gay people mingle and do things in the privacy of their homes, but I just cannot look at gay men having sex. I've actually tried for curiosity purposes, but I was just repulsed. In my case, I believe it's biological.

[Moloch]

@update - you're diving too deep into this, there's no way all your questions can be squeezed into one. About homosexuality being unnatural, nobody here is in a position to say yes or no for certain, we don't have the scientific background, nor does modern day science have any concrete answers that support either side of the coin. There have been studies that have been done, showing that homosexuals have some sort of anomaly in the brain, but I don't care to bring up any citations.

[Sweetheart666]

If they think gay sex is gross, they should feel the same way about anal in general.

[lonelyvirgin]

Im straight. But I enjoy anal stimulation. Cucumbers, butt plugs, fingers. It feels great. So I don't think there gross at all. They enjoy similar things to me they just prefer male affection. Nothing wrong with that.

[Naaarf]

Because they hate everything that is different to what they consider to be "normal". It's just idiotic.

[Anonymous]

I find lesbian scenes repulsive. I was at the movie theater a while back with my friends and we were all creeped out when these girls kissed on screen my stomach actually churned and not in a good kind of way. It has nothing to do with being immature either it just isn't my thing and I have nothing against it just don't show it in my face. All of my girlfriends will agree with me on this that its gross. So I can fully understand why straight guy won't like gay stuff its kinda self explanatory.

[Naaarf]

I feel exactly the same way about people like you... :)

[Anonymous]

About assuming that all hetero women are a bit bi. Its because the media portrays it more then it does male on male scenes and kissing. Turn on the TV and you'll see much more lesbian shows and stuff then gay men shows. Plus songs like I kissed a girl and I like it don't help much either.

[Opinion Owner]

Look at the brains of a gay male and a straight male you will notice a difference. Its all brain related just because something occurs in nature doesn't mean its "natural" "good" or "right"

[Opinion Owner]

I don't believe that people are actually bi they just act on it. Your straight or gay. Brain scans show straight females and gay males have similar brains and lesbians and straight men have similar brains. Now when you look at a "bi" women her brain will either look like a straight women most likely.

[Anonymous]

No-one in my family is homophobic (I have a gay step brother), but all the men in my family (besides my step brother) find gay sexual activity disgusting. I asked my boyfriend why men are so repulsed by it, and he said 'it isn't natural'.

I wince saw two women kissing in the street. I thought it was quite disgusting. Mostly because they were clearly doing it to make a scene. They weren't doing it discreetly at all. I find it a bit off-putting when people kiss like that in public anyway.

[zeroth88]

you see I find it alright if 2 girls kiss in public =). would you find it disgusting if a guy and a girl kiss in public. I would be more "oh please" rather than disgusted.

[Anonymous]

men and women are biologically diefferent ans well as socioligically one created the other

[Anonymous]

also these same hetero men like to watch p*rn where the male has a large penis saying that they have a preference in other males penises even though they are repulsed by men having sex together... if men were as straight as they say they would always watch lesbian p*rn...

[rotinaj10]

That's some seriously retarded logic.

[TheGodEmperorLeto]

dat assumption. Know what they say about people who make assumptions.