Why are people so anti-communism?

First off, let me start with this: I'm not pro- or anti- communist, capitalist, socialist, etc. I have zero opinions on politics. I just live and let the chips fall as they may. Honestly, after almost 35 years, I still have yet to feel like anything political has had any strong impact on my life, negative or positive. Honestly, I'm probably a leech. I put nothing into the system, other than involuntary tax dollars, and I just live in this society, involuntarily reaping the benefits. But I guess my taxes pay for that. Anyway... In America, communism is a dirty word. I was taught to hate it before I even could grasp what it was. I was just taught that it was the enemy. When I found out what it was, I was like " that's it? That's what we're being bred to hate? It's just a different way of doing things." I get that if you're pro-capitalism that it's the antithesis to what you're about. But it seems well-intentioned enough, it basically says: everyone should be relatively equal wealth-wise, and aims to eliminate the upper and lower classes. Seems OK to me. Whether it works or not is another story, but what goes on in other countries is literally the last thing on my mind. So that said, capitalism at a philosophical level seems way more hostile. Sink or swim, if you die, you die. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. If this system is considered to work well, that blows my mind. It works well for SOME people, but most are outside looking in. That to me seems wrong, but at the same time, I can only worry about myself, so I don't lose sleep over it. My girlfriend gets exemption to go to Cuba with her father for religious reasons, so she's been there first hand. She said the people there are generally happy as clams, the only downside is that they're very limited in the products they can buy because of the US embargo. But there's almost no crime, if you're sick they take care of you, and everybody has what they need to survive. Everybody likes Castro, and they don't understand the US demonization of him. The Cuban defectors who left are just mad that they can't be rich, that's all their problem is. My friend is married to a Cuban defector, and in talking to him, that's all his problem is. He can make more money in his trade as a dentist in the US than in Cuba. That's it. He could go to school for free in Cuba, he's just not willing to be less rich, so he came to the States. To me, that just seems greedy and materialistic. But whatever, that what he wants, so this is where he came. So here's my question: why the hate? If you don't agree with it as a system, that's fine. But I feel like most of the people don't even realize what they're denouncing. "What? Communism? These colors don't run! USA! USA! USA!" They just hate because they think they're supposed to. If another country wants to operate like that, who cares? Why does it need to be stomped out elsewhere? Just figure out what you like better, and move somewhere that runs that way. Simple.
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  • I think the main issue is, it works in theory but not so well in reality. Some of the main issues with Communism I've come to realize through studying history include:

    1. Forced Collectivization.

    The most notorious example of forced collectivization is the land reform carried out by Soviets between 1928 and 1933. It was thought that collectivization would maximize the use and potential of the countryside for urban and industrial needs however, people just resented this. Masses of resisting landowners, many of them small-scale farmers who worked their own land, died at the hands of executioners.

    Almost exactly the same thing took place in Communist China, between 1958 and 1961. During this time, private farming was outlawed as it had been in Stalin’s Russia, and about 33 million people starved to death under Mao Zedong's "Great Leap Forward."

    2. Reduced Incentives to Work Hard.

    Incentives, such as higher pay for doctors, are necessary to give people the energy they need to work hard in a difficult job.?? When there are no extra incentives available, such as in a Communist state, where all reap an equal share in what some have worked harder to sow, the people in difficult jobs quickly lose their motivation. They are also likely to grow bitter at the government.

    3. The Class Struggle’s.

    Communism itself does not erase the class struggle, as it proclaims, but keeps it going. It does this because it is a government: there must be a group of people in charge, and it’s likely that this group enjoys its power. By maintaining their power, the leaders of a Communist state separate the population into at least two classes: themselves as the upper class, and everyone else in the lower class.

    4. Mass Murders.

    Communist rule may be directly blamed for the deaths of at least eighty-five million people in the twentieth century. Stalin alone murdered about twenty million, although other estimates range from fifty-three million to eighty million. In 1975, the Khmer Rouge seized power in Cambodia, and set out to establish a Communist utopia. They immediately committed genocide on their own people. Roughly two million civilians were executed by brutally primitive methods in keeping with the Khmer Rouge’s anti-technology stance. Intelligence was deemed a direct and serious threat to the Khmer Rouge.?? Many other instances of murders committed by the government either directly or indirectly can be found in Communist states.

    There are other arguments I could make against Communism but I don't have enough space here. Anyway, it's not hard to look at history and see why it doesn't work. Citizens in communist governments have little to no rights. I'm not saying Capitalism is perfect because every system has flaws. However, I would rather live in a Capitalist state than a Communist one.

    • Also, I didn't have enough room in my answer to say this, but, I was never taught to "hate" communism. I've come to my conclusions about it through my own research and from learning about history in high school and college. That being said, some Americans may simply "hate" it without a particular reason because of the Cold War between the U.S. and the USSR. People who grew up during that era were probably taught that the Soviet Union was the "enemy" and they were a Communist state.

    • Good points except for that last one. Mass murders were a problem caused by the particular people who held the power in those societies. That's not something that would happen under every communist society and it's something that could happen in any society with a twisted leader.

    • Communist societies are run by dictator's who are usually power hungry and will do anything to keep their power. So yes, the majority of them end up killing their people but like I said, it could also be indirectly. Like when millions of people starved to death in China and the Soviet Union. I still consider that murder because it could have been prevented.

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  • You said that, "whether it works or not is another story", there is no use of me wasting my breath explaining why communism doesn't work. A single experience working in a high school team project will thoroughly convince you why it doesn't work - let alone learning about why other historical examples of it didn't work. Even a modest understanding of human behavior (read Dale Carnegie) will allow you to see that socialism lacks incentive to produce desired results.

    But you implied that you were aware that communism does not work. Your real question then is: why is America getting in everybody's faces to convince people that practice communism to change their ways?

    Ok, well let me ask you another question. If your classmate was making a systematic error in their arithmetic, don't you think you'd be morally obligated to make them aware of their misunderstanding?

    If it made absolutely no difference to your grade to help a fellow student, don't you think it would be nice of you to help them? What if you knew that the whole class would earn a few extra bonus points if everybody got at least a B on the next exam?

    Capitalists think it's a good think to tell others about the errors of communism, because

    1) It's the morally right thing to do to help someone else at zero cost to the helper

    2) It would benefit world trade to have all countries be stable, productive, and potential trading partners

    Communism in practice brings out some bad aspects of people. It rewards laziness, and enslaves those who have talent/ability by forcing them to work for nothing in order to feed themselves (by feeding the rest of the nation first). Communism nurtures a specific kind of evil.

    Yet, you have also noticed that capitalism encourages certain evil behaviors too. It encourages self-reliance, proactive behavior, and optimism for improvement of the future. BUT it also encourages selfishness, greed, and unwillingness to help other people out of fear that helping a "rival" is a way of shooting themselves in the foot. Yet, poverty also encourages selfishness. If communism results in everyone being poor (lacking essential materials), communism results in an equal if not greater amount of selfishness.

    I agree with you that there are a lot of ignorant people who cheer for certain political beliefs like sports teams. But I am convinced that capitalism, though it has many terrible flaws, works where communism has an equal (or greater number of flaws) and fails.

    And that is why Americans speak so harshly about communism in favor of capitalism. We have not attacked a communist country to colonize or convert them - only to remove a direct threat to America.

    • I clicked on the "agree" button about 50,000 times but it only went up once...

  • Most people don't understand what it really is and with all the propaganda against it all people know is: "commies, bad!" Communism is often associated with people like Stalin and Castro who twisted communism into something more sinister.

    I think greed is another reason. Many people in the US are chasing the dream, they want money and/or power. In an idealistic communist society you would have all your needs fulfilled (as well as everyone around you) but it would never be possible to become rich.

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  • They say communism is just socialism with an attitude.

    I was never taught to hate communism, I never heard the word until almost my teens. However it doesn't take a rocket scientist too see why communism should never be embraced. China, Russia, Korea... Why would we want to lower our quality of life to the likes of these countries? You said it yourself: "Whether it works or not is another story" the fact of the matter is it doesn't work, at least not in the way it is presented. Every communist country has the very few who are very wealthy who got that way by being connected, that ultra-small ruling class crushes the rest of society below it, doing nothing but taking, anything that is given has a price and it is literally impossible to pull yourself up out of that lower class.

    In a capitalist society, all people have equal opportunity, anybody can become rich, it is simply a matter of playing your cards right and putting in the work. Capitalism doesn't work only for some, it's that those some made capitalism work for them. The US's fall from the top is due to moving away from capitalism and into a more communist-centric ideology, why do you think the rich in this country keep getting richer? It isn't because they're gouging the little guy, it's because Obama's policies created a perfect storm that benefits the rich while keeping the little guy mostly stagnant. Take Obamacare for example, force everybody to buy something from rich insurance companies, regardless of the price (which is going up, not down as he promised) and if you don't buy it you have to pay a fine (oh sorry, a "tax") that he can redistribute to his wealthy friends in the Insurance industry. Obama is far from the first one to embrace this anti-capitalism stance, we've been going down the road to ruin since the early 1900s.

    "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and for the government to gain ground" -Thomas Jefferson

    I'm all for laws that protect the consumer and employee from overzealous companies, but the elite have taken that concept and perverted it, they take it so far that it has transformed from simple and reasonable boundaries that give companies room to make plenty of money while still giving consumers and employees all the protections they need to the communist model. The elite know the masses will fall for it because "oh, they're trying to help me" gullibility of the general public.

    Capitalism is the equal sharing of opportunity coupled with the unequal sharing of success, might not seem fair but we all had the same opportunities, some just went out and got them, rather than sitting there waiting for it to be handed to them.

    • I actually completely disagree with the premise that everyone has equal opportunity to be rich. Some people are born less intelligent. Some have physical handicaps. Some are born into unforgiving socioeconomic circumstances. I'm from the ghetto, people there do NOT have the same opportunity to be rich as a middle or upper class kid from the suburbs. My job brings me to a lot of Walmarts, and believe me, the majority of people working there are NOT intellectually capable of succeeding. My biggest

    • ...gripe against capitalism is that this supposed level playing field doesn't exist. Just because people say everyone has the same shot doesn't mean its true. I think capitalism is a lot like communism in that people say it works in theory, but not so much in practice. Grow up disadvantaged and go to inner city schools where teachers get paid to show up and leave and tell me everyone can succeed. Make education free, THEN we can start blaming lack of effort for lack of success.

    • There are many people from less fortunate backgrounds, who have made untold fortunes... Oprah Winfrey, Johnny Cash, Sheldon Adelson, Kirk Kerkorian, Steve Jobs, Dan and Frank Carney, Ralph Laruen, the list goes on. Many of these people come from the place you speak of, supposedly had "no chance" of making it in the "dog eat dog" world of capitalism. Jobs created Apple in his mothers garage, the Carney's started Pizza Hut in their mother's kitchen, we all could have done it, but we didn't...

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  • There are MANY reasons to hate Communism:

    >Stalin was a BLOODY dictator, in the line of the Russian czars before the Communist revolution.

    >Mao was a BLOODY dictator, in the line of the Chinese emperors and warlords before the Communist revolution.

    >Anti communist propaganda started long before the Russian Communist 1919 revolution (during the Capitalist Industrial Revolution (I'd say, starting around 1850: shareholder's interests conflicting with worker's interests)

    > several generations in Europe were afraid of a Russian invasion during the years between WW1 and WW2. (Europeans governments helped insurgents in Russia during the years after the Russian revolution) and the European countries hosted Russian refugees.

    >During the thirties many preferred Hitler over Communism, hoping that Hitler would protect Europe from the USSR. When Finland and some Baltic states got too close to Fascism, they were invaded by Stalin during the late thirties.

    >During the same period, disputed Polish territory was a real problem too (as it had been for centuries). A few days after Hitler invaded Poland from the West, Stalin did the same from the East. Both were the final movement leading to WW2.

    >Several generations have been afraid of WW3 once the USSR too got the nuclear bomb.

    In fact, the USSR respected the Yalta Agreements all along. Nuclear menace, ICBM's and mutual assured destruction persuaded both sides. The US and the UK didn't respect the Yalta Agreements in Greece, right after Greece's liberation from the Germans, when they intervened with military force to help the Greek rightists who had collaborated with Germany. This lead to a civil war with many casualties in Greece.

    Given all that, who can not understand that many people don't like Communism?

    Communism had it's good sides too, of course. But they were hidden by all the above.

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  • The Ten Pillars?

    No thank you.

    My dad taught us girls better.

    For us it was Thomas Jefferson and King James.

    The Ten Commandments and the First Ten Ammendments to The Constitution.

    I know I'm just a young twentysometing but that's how I was raised.

    I don't think that Americans today fully understand just how free the Founding Fathers meant for them to be.

    Socialism/Communism seems so wonderful to some. Until the overreaching greedy paws of tbe government shows up and wipes its dirty feet on your front doorstep.

    Okay sorry guys.

    Continue.

    • Where have you been all my life? LOL +1

    • Greed still exists in Capitalism. One of the big problems that Americans face today is corporate greed. You sound horribly naive. By the way, the Ten Pillars is Buddhist.

    • Casper286 please cite a specific example of "corporate greed", I guarantee you can't come up with anything that rivals the original capitalists such as Carnagie, Rockerfeller, Morgan, Vanderbuilt, etc.

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  • The media induces elitism, and contempt for other social systems and cultures,. Not tomention we imprted millions of Batista pimps into Florida and all kinds of dictators from other countries.That's one of themain goals of the media ownership., to encourage elitism and racism

    And the majority of the US population still buys what the media,owned by a few dozen millionaires, is selling them.

    But I think not for long. That majority of fools is shrinking a little every year.

    • Yeah, never ceases to amaze me how easily people buy what the media sells them. I don't take college too seriously, I was a party animal, but one thing I learned was ALWAYS question and take into consideration the source of any information you hear, and what their angle is. A lot of people were absent that day, I guess, haha.

    • Not surprised this is the only answer, so far!

  • yeh and vietnam is a very healthy, organised and balanced society as well...

    well it is until you want to be particularly succesful or inventive or unique, which is considerably harder in communism.

    then again capitilism has issues, democracy has problems. communist goverments don't shut down for weeks on end for no good reason...

    the reason its a dirty word is because America likes to force its way of life on other people. AND DAM THEM SMALLER WEAKER COUNTRIES FOR NOT BEING IN THE USA AND FOLLOWING OUR WAY OF LIFE.

    in britain its not even a dirty word its just kind of said with distant intrigue.

  • Um. Communism. Isn't just a 'different way' like preferring sausage or pepperoni on your pizza. It's a horrible failure of economics and oppressive to the people forced to live under it. God, I worry about the education provided in schools these days.

  • It goes back to the Cold War. Russia and the USA hated each other since communism threatened the power of the US. That's pretty much the only reason why Americans are taught to hate it. America is very hypocritical. We are terrorists yet we teach our children that Muslims are the terrorists. Yet we killed innocent people in Japan during WW2 and the countless amount of civilians in the Middle East. America has tried to make the hatred of communism skin deep in their citizens because they don't want their power threatened again. IMHO, if the country isn't trying to attack us than they aren't a threat no matter what type of government they have.

    (I'm an American college student who majors in Engineering and History)

    • If you're a history major then you should know that Japan attacked the U.S. first killing innocent Americans at Pearl Harbor and we were also attacked on 9/11 where innocent Americans were, again, killed. I'm not saying two wrongs make a right but your answer seems pretty one-sided...

    • Yeah, I grew up in the 80s when the US vs USSR beef was the hot topic. I have an uncle who died in Vietnam and when I was little, I told people he got killed by the Russians, haha, just because I thought that was "the enemy." I just feel like people are so fraudulent in their concern for people in other countries. It's a nice thing to say, but if you don't do anything to help the cause, shut up. Don't tell me you care about starving Africans, get on a plane and bring them a sandwich or STFU haha

    • Yes, Pearl Harbor was attacked first but the amount of people who died in Pearl Harbor was much less than when we bombed Japan. @ question asker: I've been to Africa 4 times since I was 17, I'm 19 now and I'm planning to to Nigeria in Feb. to help women get tested and get treatment for HIV. I've also been to Honduras and Nicaragua. I do care about people other than myself. You should think about what you say before you say it.

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  • I see most answers are from the American perspective.

    America has always been a strong believer in Democracy, and almost missionary of the same. USA propagates democracy in non democratic countries, and say "you're welcome" to the rest of the world, assuming the non democratic country was like the scum of this world.

    I personally think that communism is a risky thing, as it takes away people's rights (some of which are very necessary) and the country is headed by a leader whom the people may, may not approve of or are forced to accept. It can work out well, for example, China who've developed a lot in the last 20 years, and is in strong contention to become a super power (I think they're already there). But on the other side, we have North Korea, whose leaders have done nothing but use their wealth (which by the way is very less) to develop nuclear powers to attack others.

    To summarize, I'd the cons out weight the pros in communism, hence it is hated or not endorsed by many.

    • Considering China has pretty much abandoned all of the economic principles of communism, I don't think it's reasonable to say that the system has worked out well for them. The country only began to thrive after economic liberalization.

    • "USA propagates democracy in non democratic countries" IF their despots aren't helping American interests. Did it propagate democracy when -Franco was a despot? When Pinochet and all Latino-American and African despots served the USA? When Putin sends people to Siberia? I don't think so.

  • In a nutshell:

    Communism is pretty much all about TRUE equality, which will never work with humans. Let's say you're some filthy rich Rockfeller who wipes his ass with $100 bills. In communism his wealth would be spread across everyone equally. Obviously he doesn't wants that and also doesn't wants people to know how it would work. So what he can do? Raise a whole generation unaware of it's ideology and make them consider it to be the ultimate sin. Since they have sh*tloads of money, they can use political power to brainwash a whole nation.

    • The flaw in your reasoning is that in a communist society there would never be a Bill Gates in the first place because there is no incentive to get rich because the government takes everything from you. There isn't mass wealth to redistribute because people are less innovative and productive. Therefore, everyone is just equally poor.

  • The simple explanation is that communism looks great on paper, amazing in fact, but it doesn't work in real life. Ever. Crazy dictators or not. Human nature works well with Capitalism, because everyone works hard and gains wealth accordingly. In communism, people feel cheated. They work hard but everyone gets the same everything because it is equal. Should a doctor really get the same food, money, clothes and living space as a janitor? Most people wouldn't think so. Capitalism allows better rewards based off of position. Of course, capitalism has a ton of problems with it's system, but it's picking the less of two evils. I think if we still lived in a technologically repressed age and with less people, communism could work just fine. However, modern civilization doesn't support it.

    • Capitalism works well to motivate people and make individuals (people or companies) rich but it's really not the best as far as a whole society is concerned. There's too much focus on profit and not enough on necessity. If people could pull their heads out of their asses enough to work together and not gripe about not being ahead of everyone else then communism would probably be great for society as a whole. But yeah I don't think we'll ever become that selfless.

  • Because Communism never works.

    • There were Communists, but was there ever Communism? I don't think so.

    • Because it never works.

  • Its like Nazism. Its an awful system that deprives people of human rights, like voting, freedom of speech and freedom of press. The government takes EVERYTHING from you because there is no private property. And communists like Stalin and Mao killed far more people than Hitler.

    • . >There is private property in Communism, but it's limited: all means of production (farms, factories) and businesses are collectively owned (state owned thus). >The 'number of killed' is a false comparison: different lapse of time, different surface and number of inhabitants of countries. Estimates versus precise statistics and numbers also.

  • Communism, by it's nature, requires the government to impose equality by taking what one person has produced/earned and transfer it to others solely to "equalize". This means it can essentially only exist in conjunction with one party rule and dictatorship. Fundamentally, the vast majority of Americans are strongly opposed to dictatorship.

    Also, taking away what a person has produced to force equality takes away the incentive to work hard. Hypothetically, if you were only allowed to keep whatever you earned for 400 hours of work and everything beyond that was taken by the government, why would you work a single hour over that other if it was at gunpoint? When that attitude pervades an entire society, innovation and investment disappear and economic growth slows or ceases entirely, I'm sure you could point to examples where that wasn't the case, but remember also that dictatorships tend to create their own economic statistics that make their performance appear better since no one will challenge them.

    I have been to lots of third world countries where people who don't have money find ways to be happy. However, taking a broader look at things like opportunity for economic advancement, sanitation, availability of safe drinking water, access to medical assistance, availability of technology, etc. I doubt you would see those countries as examples we should model our economic policy after.

  • Because communism takes away people's freedom to free reign.

    • Actually no it doesn't, in fact it does the opposite, save for the fact that the only people who get into the ruling class are basically born into it.

    • What? Communism takes away your right to free market, money and your choice of a career.

    • Exactly, along with a lot more, hence why it is bad.

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  • "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

    The above philosophy, popularized by Karl Marx, is the cornerstone of communism and goes against everything America stands for, or at least what it used to stand for. Hard work and personal responsibility are what made America great in the past. Our slow and steady fall from grace can be tied directly to a shift away from those values and toward Marxism.

    Also, supporting communism is essentially a vote against liberty. Wherever communism has existed, so have violations against human rights and squelching of freedoms. China and the USSR have been shining examples of that.

    • I dig that angle too, it's a fair argument. One thing I completely agree with is the "from each according to his ability" part. That's my main problem with capitalism. We are NOT all created equal, and we do NOT have the same opportunity and capability to succeed, whether through natural intelligence/abilities and/or socioeconomic factors.

    • Actually, you'd be good to ask, here's a two-fold question: 1) How do you explain the success in Cuba? I know the US media sings a different song, but Cubans will tell you different. They love the system and only suffer because of the US embargo. Can it work in small countries maybe, and just not in behemoths like China and USSR? And, 2) What makes you care about how another country operates? If China wants to be communist and violate human rights and squelch freedoms, why is that any skin..

    • ...off your ass? I can't even fathom why someone would worry about what's happening in another country to people you don't personally know.

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