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Why do girls of all backgrounds prefer the white man?

I'm of Indian heritage, but I'm as Australian as all my white friends - If you were on the phone with me, you'd be laughing about for ages, and you wouldn't be able to even remotely guess that I'm ethnic. Many girls are nice to me, enjoy my company, and have complimented that I'm an attractive man, but they just wouldn't want to date me. I've made some fake Tinder accounts with Indians, Chinese, and White men. I used some very attractive Indian and Chinese male models from another part of the world (so that no one in Australia would know them, nor are they famous celebrities). Out of a 1000 right swipes, they barely secured less than 10 matches each. On the other hand, I used a very average looking Caucasian man on Tinder, and he got close to 200 matches - that's a 20% success rate. I also used a very good looking white male model - he got 900+ matches, where the girls would be initiating contact with him, and insist that he talk to them even if he doesn't respond to them. Thank you Tinder, for the following lessons about Australian women (not just white, but ethnics Australian women too).. for them to be attracted to you, you MUST be: 1. White 2. >6ft If you meet that criteria, other highly desirable traits that can help you are: - have a dog pic - have tattoos - play an instrument - a pic of an adventure sport - good pick up line Note: There's a difference between a preference and racism. There are good looking guys in all races, but if you close your mind to them just because they aren't your preference, then you are inherently racist. Also, most girls say things in their profile like "I'm going to ignore you if you just say hi/how are you to me" and "I'm not interested in shirtless pics". ^ That's all rubbish - the good looking white model with shirtless pics got loads of girls, and all they were doing was saying "hi/how are you".."can't you at least reply" etc.
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I might as well add this here too:
It took me less than 2 minutes to dig up the following profiles on POF:
www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=56096917
www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=67253528
www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=59569
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Last one:
www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=59569101

These are girls from a variety of backgrounds.
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  • I'm not surprised by your results, I'm disappointed for humanity by the extremity of the results though.

    I'm not sure that its just white vs. non white. I'd be quite interested to know what your fake-tinder results would discover using a black male. My impression is that east and south Asian men get a bad rap in mainstream media as sexual beings, and black men get knocked for all kinds of things... but are presented as being sexual.

    I've seen some interesting data on okcupid about dating and race. One thing that was interesting was that on that site, whites (especially white women) were significantly less open to interracial dating then non whites.

    I suspect part of this is that in any culture minority groups are more likely to consider and embrace interracial dating because it has such an impact on their potential matches.

    But I also think its because, in north america at least, there are specific dating sites for a number of groups. There are dating sites for black singles, jewish singles, Asian singles, etc. So it may be that east indian women looking for east indian men are on specialist sites, and the ones that want white guys are on 'standard' sites, whereas white women would use the standard site regardless. I by know means think that explains all the differential, but I'm suspicious that any study of 'broad' targeted dating sites is missing out on non-white groups who are highly interested in dating within their ethnicity.

    For what its worth, my cousin (white) is married to a dark skinned guy from india.

    • A problem I see with this is I think a lot of times people sign up for multiple dating sites so they may be on dateindian. com and okaycupid. Maybe that's not the case though if they are on sites that specific though.

    • The ones who are open to both would be, but there's a group of 'i don't date interracially' non white people who wouldn't be on okcupid, where 'i don't date interaccially' whites would be.

    • Yeah that may be. It's hard to speculate lol

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  • Well here's the thing... The majority of women (not just white, but across all ethnicities), have a preference for white men because its the standard of beauty. Now if you aren't white, its not to say you have no chance... because obviously non white still hook up. But you're at a disadvantage, especially if you introduce competition. White guys are generally perceived as good catches because they have the particular features that have been labelled as pristine. As a dark guy, you generally need to be a lot better than the rest in order to get the same attention... and i don't say that with any glee (as i am dark myself), but its fairly accurate... particularly when you poll women for their preferences across all backgrounds (including black women). You can't really argue with people's preferences, but i understand if it has made you feel undesirable.

    As a sociable guy, I've been to a lot of house parties and watch a lot of my socially awkward white male friends get eyed down by the women there (and of coarse, they often don't know what to do with the attention because they are socially awkward). It's part of the reason why I haven't got into the dating game much as of late, because I haven't developed in other areas of my life yet to make myself a lot better than average. That would really be my suggestion to you.

    • Mate Australia is certainly more racist than USA - that's an internationally renowned fact. You won't see an ethnic CEO in a multinational company here. Back to my premise though - personality wise, I am actually ahead of the pack in many ways, as well as my career, and inner morals. That means nothing to girls today. They have a rapid checklist that they like ticked within the first minute of seeing you. I'm 5ft 10 (cross), Indian heritage (cross). Simple. About facial features - I actually look very European myself - straight sharp nose, very light skin, well built etc... I just have black hair and almond-shaped eyes (characteristic Indian features). Some girls I meet online converse very well with me and even flirt.. but they press me to reveal my background. When I say I'm Indian, it's goodbye. Sorry, but women in their 20s in Australia are racist and superficial as hell.

    • I do appreciate your honesty and neutral perspective, given that you are from a "disadvantaged" ethnic minority yourself, when it comes to the dating field.

    • you're welcome. P. S. this might interest you
      www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q964571-girls-how-many-of-you-have-a-preference-for-white-lighter-skinned

      Largely, i think it just comes down to darker men being seen as racially inferior where looks are concerned, and getting a white guy is stepping up on the social ladder

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  • To all those who blame the OP, he's actually got a very good point.

    I was actually talking about this to my ethnic girlfriends the other day. Most of them did indeed admit that they would only date a white man. They said things like they would rather be single than date their own race. This especially applies to sub-continental and East Asian women who were born and bred in USA. They were happy to wait it out until 28, and if no luck comes their way, only then may they consider an ethnic man who is at the very least, born and bred in USA, has a good job and has had experience with a few girlfriends.

    No offense, but personally, I am predominantly interested in white men, and a few black men here and there. I am just not attracted to Indian or East Asian men. Most girls I know are the same, and it's not because they are narrow minded or racist, it's just who they are attracted to. Naturally, one would only select the very best, and in this day and age, most of us believe that is the white man - he is often tall, handsome, manly, athletic, confident, creative, knows how to make a girl laugh, romantic, and isn't afraid to lead us into bed the right way.

    Again, I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I'm just telling things as they are. The OP is right with his observation, and I'm telling you why, that's all.

    • I don't really see how other races don't often have the traits you like: tall, handsome, manly, athletic, confident, creative, knows how to make a girl laugh, romantic, and isn't afraid to lead us into bed the right way. I totally understand if it's just your preference though. Maybe you're really only interested in a small group of guys that fits that criteria and they most often happen to be white.

    • Actually, I find that the majority of white guys I came across fit that description. There are exceptions of course. I really don't see an Indian or East Asian man to exemplify that combination of traits.

    • How you would describe a manly guy?

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  • You will find that misconclusion is simply not true once you leave your corner of the world. Tinder, this unpopular website which therefore will have a limited demographic, is not an accurate representation for this question. Those females are not a collective portrayal for the entire female gender. You also have to consider the negative connotation that tends to come with certain racial groups due to ignorant stereotyping. For example, far too many Indian men have presented themselves as creepy thus spoiling their image *only in the minds of small minded people*. Now, there are many ignorant females who assume they're just another creepy Indian. You also have to take into account that white men have miraculously evaded racial profiling and stereotyping. Happenstance? I think not.

    Honestly, you seem like maybe you have your own insecurities about your ethnicity. Therefore you have internalized them when approaching some D-list dating website online. Know your worth. Ethnicity doesn't determine worth.

    • Can you explain to me what insecurities I have about my race? It's a fact that Indians aren't desirable (regardless of which country they are born or brought up in). I go with an open mind and heart but when I'm met with nothing but racism, do you blame me for being insecure?

    • No, I can't explain to you what insecurities you have about your race because I don't actually know you on a specific level. However, it is clear that you must have some insecurities because if you didn't, you would be too proud to even let these thoughts consume you. Do I blame you for being insecure? No Do I blame you for allowing your insecurities to dominate you? Yes

    • I'm very proud of who I am, which is why, even if I know that girls look down on Indians, when they ask me for my background, I proudly tell that I am of Indian heritage. I'm not proud of the country or its recent state, but that's who I am and I have no reason to be ashamed of it. The reason people ask me to clarify my background is that I in fact look very mediteranean/South European myself. If I was a black man or Sri Lankan or whatever, I'd tell them that's what I am. You're right, ethnicity doesn't determine one's worth.. but tell that to the girls in my market/country? They still wouldn't' agree, until they became obese, divorced had kids , medical problems etc and no one cared about their looks any more.

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  • I don't want to offend, but if I give my opinion honestly, I think most people have heard something about Indian people and India's society and that isn't the kind of thing most girls are looking for. This is even way before they've even seen your face, so although women might prefer white men (I really doubt that), you're probably not being rejected by your appearance.

    Perhaps I'm not helping much, but think you've higher chances with people you actually get to meet in real life, so they get to know the real you.

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  • after reading your questions and reading a handful of responses, i thouhgt to myself, this little study of your is flawed. did you count out the responses of prefrence as to what race the girls were?

    firstly you need to look at why people are on tinder. for hook ups. not relationships, not to get to know people. sure that might happen, but essentially its a tool for people to have casual sex.

    secondly i think the 6'+ thing might have to do with its probably easier for short women to get bf's, and girls typically prefer the guy to be taller. recently i was talking to a girl we were getting along well, its turns out she was 5'11 and im only 5'8, so that just died quick smart.

    also from my experience with indian and Asian girls, they tend not be quite as slutty as white girls. so this too might ad to why there is a bias on there.

    but where i am working at the moment i have seen quite a few white women with 'exotic' men mostly indian/paki types, and even a few Asians in regards to mixed race couples.

  • The fact that it bothers you, activates their instincts. Unless you find a girl who is highly sympathetic with ethnic people, most girls will avoid you because of your perceived slight.

    My opinion: Get over it. Just be you. Yeah, the world sucks, and people are messed up. Most people who claim not to have a racist bone in their body are actually very racist.

    IF you can become the guy you are describing, a guy who loves life, who is funny, who harbors zero resentment, hate, or bitterness over the BS of life, girls will flock to you, even if you're green skinned.

    • Get over it? I'm a young man, who deserves a chance with a woman, and not just serve as a doormat because her white crushes whom she has sex with don't give her the attention she needs. And if you're not nice to them, they make your life hell - spread malicious rumours about you, try and ruin your reputation amongst other girls etc. If you were in my shoes, you'd know how it feels. Of course.. this is the case in real life and not online dating sites/apps. Of course I'd get over it if it was just some dating app. And no.. girls don't just flock to ethnics in spite of them loving life like I do. I'm very satisfied with my life except for the fact that I'm missing a woman. Women are white-washed, and dating apps like tinder have proven them to be be a bunch of racist slu*ts who care about nothing more than sexual attraction.

    • You see? Your anger and vitriol has a scent that women can smell. No women wants to be with a man who would call her a slut for any reason. Understand that messed up people are messed up. There are injustices and unfairness in life that you MUST overcome. If you dwell on it, it will turn you into a bitter, angry person, and *nobody* will want to be your friend. I'm sorry, man. I wish you the best.

    • They don't sense anger unless I show it... you must be under the impression that I go crying to women to date me? That I'm angry with them? Grow up dude. You can't overcome some things.. only time will fk them up when they realise that they married for the wrong reasons. But hey, whenever there's a crime or injustice, I believe that both the victim or perpetrator suffer. The perpetrator usually enjoys it all in the short run. Dating is no exception. Sorry, but just "accepting" it and moving on isn't going to get things moving - if there's no market for a product, that product has no hope on the shelf. White-washed girls are a menace to today's society. Lucky for you ay! You can call her a b*tch and she'll still be dying to sleep with you.

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  • This isn't true. I personally prefer guys of my background, which are Asian . I think most white guys are douche bags and some of the rare few are actually nice.

    • They're sexually mature too early in life

  • That's simple it's racism

  • This is so strange. The last time I saw an attractive white guy was like last month lol. Maybe girls are jumping on that super hot white guy because he seems to be an endangered species =P Honestly though, people tend to find what they are familiar with to be attractive.

    • You would think that ethnics are most familiar with ethnics then? Why do East and South Asian girls reject their own kind, exclusively for the white man? I can show you soooooooo many profiles where they explicitly state this, but I challenge you to find me one profile that says "no caucasian men"

    • Well... I don't really know anyone who rejects their own race like that... That seems unhealthy. Why are you interested in girls who think that way?

    • I'm certainly not interested in girls who think that way, but what do you do when just about every girl in Australia in her 20s who speaks English is like that? It's only those who are grossly obese/unattractive/have kids/medical problems that see past this superficial bs

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  • I'm white and white men are my least favourite if I had to pick... I'm not sure why. I think people think of the cultural differences associated with other ethnicities and assume you'll disagree on most things.

  • If you're trying to compete with other men to get a nice slim Jennifer Hawkins type of girl.. It will be a white guy who will get it, first.

    1. They're not that cultural compared to Asians and indians/pakistans and arabs
    2. In TV sports channel, you'll only see mostly people who are white with some exceptions of aboriginals but there's only a handful of them. No full blooded Asian or indians playing for the footy or cricket team. (Unless you're eurasian)
    3. Looks really matter

    • I appreciate your honesty

  • You act like you are not the typical 'indian', what would you rate your looks from 1 to 10?
    Consider it a blessing, they dissed you? they could be just ordinary people
    --who live with their parents or
    -- live from paycheck to paycheck or
    --have a rich daddy to support them
    --smoke weed/ sell drugs or just get HELL drunk everyweekend and have 30 plus partners

    • what's your point?

    • Another thing, their parents might NOT like the idea of them dating a non white person producing a mixed child.

    • exactly. japanese parents don't want their sons to marry non-japanese for that reason. it's a perfectly normal concept for people who think they are "purebreds"

  • If you really want to nail a white girl, so start to think like a successful white guy and do what they do for interests. You got to think out of the 'box'. And see what responses you get.

    • I'm not talking about white girls.. I;'m talking about girls of all backgrounds. They have become white-washed. For ethnics, many closed doors have locks on top of them.. they're just seen as door-to-door salesman. He has to work 5 times as hard to even stand a chance (e. g. high grades, top job, own house + investments etc.).. but even that isn't enough to please a girl.. and if it is, it isn't him that she's in love with..

    • I have met a few indians who are probably like you. They're smart, have a good job, 'light skinned' and well off. These things are not enough to 'qualify' for a girl. Do you try too hard? if you do, then it feels 'forced' and not natural. There has to be some natural chemistry between you and them.

    • I don't try "too hard" but I think every girl tries his luck with a girl he's attracted to. I am the type who doesn't chase a girl if she doesn't express any reciprocal interest. I can't help it if these girls have a barricade against someone just because of their race so it's frustrating for me, as it means I'm stopped from approaching them, and they won't approach me either. It basically means that in this decade, during my 20s, my most precious years, that I am not entitled to love because of my race. While I'm happy with my other aspects of life, I have to be honest in saying that missing a woman does mean I'm missing out on a lot in life.

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  • Because of the medias portrayal of everyone. it seriously makes me fucking hate myself.

    • Sadly, even our girls have been brainwashed to believe that "if it ain't white, it ain't right"

    • In what way do you think the media does this?

    • Well think about it.. does the media ever show girls falling in love with an ethnic hero? Do beauty advertisements ever show ethnics? Why are ethnics always portrayed in lowly roles (e. g. indians - computer nerds/gas station workers; chinese - nerds/geeks/restaurant workers; blacks - labourers/gardeners/assistants etc.) Here in Australia, ethnics are prohibited from working on the major TV Channels - 7, 9, 10 The Australian community was outraged when Neighbours wanted to cast an Indian on their sets. This year's Australian of The Year award went to an indigenous man - the community was outraged.

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  • I think it is whom they are attracted to. There are many Asians who still prefer to be with Asians , not all are interested in white guys. When I went Europe I still saw people being together with their own race. Though interracial rs is common it is still minority.

    Please dont rely on the dating sites as it is not true reflection of entire female population like some gagers advised.

    • You are correct about many Asians being with other Asians . However, I only find this to be the case if they fit a stereotypical Asian description (e. g. introverted, studious, lives with parents in her 20s etc), if their English isn't good (e. g. international students), or if they tried with a white guy but failed. Otherwise, the white man is still number 1 on her list.

    • Nope. I know people around me still prefer Asian guys. Because of same cultural background and the people are of different educational levels and background

  • well, as a half japanese half caucasian female who has ONLY chosen to date japanese males despite having ample opportunity to date other caucasians and other races, i beg your pardon but no.

  • this is just sad...

    • It is sad, and there's nothing we can do about it. White guys are lucky in that they get offers from just about everyone. Girls are lucky, as they have guys chasing them all the time. It's just how it is.

    • they like white pickles Lmao!

  • Is it only white women in the area where you live (out of curiousity)?
    I do know that women are generally less open to interracial dating compared to men. That is a huge factor.
    Have you tried other races of women? You shouldn't take what people say on the internet serious.

    • Nope, I'm from Sydney - very ethnically diverse. My post refers to women of ALL backgrounds in Australia. Natural selection has it that they are brainwashed to believe that the white man is the only real man out there (yet, they forget how they were born). Refer to one of my comments below to exemplify how girls from a variety of backgrounds outrightly exlcude ethnics. Not suprisingly, I was able to dig up 3 profiles in just 2 minutes. Note, most women are a bit more cautious about revealing their true racial criteria, for the sake of preserving their politically correct image. It alllll changes when they're drunk though (plenty of supportive videos on YouTube!). At clubs, or out on the street, most women will politely engage in a very brief 30sec conversation just to appear diplomatic. Again, it's all superficial content e. g. "how are you, good to see you, I gtg, have a lovely day"

    • Sorry to interject, that's the worse place to look for a 'woman' to date especially for an ethnic person.

    • haha I TOTALLY agree with you. People in Europe /Asia/USA treated me wayyyy better and readily connected with me. Australia, and in particular Sydney, is full of people with a disgusting mentality. Unfortunately, it's difficult for me to migrate overseas because of my career commitments, and it will take some time to de-Australianise myself to culturally adapt to other countries or their people. Grrr

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  • Because white men are at the top of the dating pool. Deal with it.

  • I don't like white men, I don't care for dogs, I would never date someone with tattoos, I don't care about sports and I love Indian men.

  • Why do guys of all backgrounds prefer exotic non Caucasian women?

    In my country, it is not like that. Plenty of girls go for the other guys. I don't because I am not attracted to them. It was how I was raised I guess. I don't know.

    • Which country are you in? I find that in general, most guys prefer white girls for their liberal culture, but have no strong preference and would be happy to date anyone. Many guys admire non- English speaking girls (including Europeans) because they're not culturally as feminist, and generally expected to play a more feminine role in their cultures. Were you raised to hate non-white men?

    • no.. I wasn't raised to hate non-white men... it is the 21st century.. how can anyone be raised to hate a particular race? I live in the US... which is proven diverse.

    • Yeah... The US and UK media and institutions have been hating on white men for over a decade. Maybe you don't see it, but it's everywhere - sometimes even blatantly in "liberal" papers and programmes. For instance, it's seen as socially acceptable to attack a group of white men because they all share the same or similar ethnicity, but not a group of any other ethnicity. The Asker is factually correct here, and about the desirability of foreign feminine women.

  • For the same reason why guys of all backgrounds prefer white girls.

  • I would actually be curious as to whether this is still the case in a country where another race is the majority. Majority status generally means more privilege and is similar to being wealthy, well educated, etc. in how women view men (a lot of the time), or at least I assume so. White men happen to fit that in many countries.
    It could also be a question of attraction. For some reason I am not (generally) attracted to Chinese guys (but I do like Japanese guys) or black guys (with exceptions). Same with Bangladeshis (with a major exception) or Afghanis. It might be physical, cultural, whatever - am not sure. But I really think majority status has a lot to do with it. Could be wrong.

    • (I realize Chinese does not equal Japanese. I was thinking East Asian . Similarly, I find Koreans more attractive than Vietnamese on a general scale.)

  • Ah who gives a shit about what a bunch of bitches think unless you are willing to date anything with a hole.

    I could not see all the profile links you posted... but that Indian girl is not very attractive.

    I am a North Indian guy and if it is any consolation... I have had women of all races express interest in me on several occasions... Indian, White, Black, Asian , Latino. I live in the U. S though, so maybe that is different. To an extent I prefer Indian women... but there are not many North Indian women where I live... its sad.

    • I'm North Indian too (Punjabi), but I find that many North Indians are just as racist as Whites, with regards to a superiority complex about being fair, only to realise that they are dark compared to other races in the world. There are many beautiful and intelligent south indian girls too man.. esp from Kerala/Karnataka, but I really wish Indians would cut out the regionalism/religion/caste/skin colour BS.. that's exactly why India is a hole in its present state.

    • Yes, I think when I have visited India I have seen some but not a lot (since I have never been to the south past Mumbai). Where I live, there don't seem to be any attractive looking ones. I however do know that there are some light-skinned South Indians also. Its not just based on skin color... regional culture comes into play too... which why I say prefer North Indian women... sometimes things like what food you eat, what kind of entertainment you prefer ( English vs. Hindi vs. Punjabi or Telugu movies) etc. I surely admire beautiful women of any race but for a strong relationship I have decided to shop only for "North Indian woman". the only other exception can be a woman is well-assimilated in America regardless of race... it is very unlikely that I would be interested in a woman who follows a very different culture... purely because of conflicting cultural values.

    • I didn't always have this view... in fact I only want well-assimilated woman of any race for the longest time... because I despise religion and "a narrow outlook on life" that might result from two people who are same everything. However, I am not sure about you, but I wasn't born in the states but moves here as a young child. I still have memories of India and so that there is still a part of me that feels attached to that place and so lately... I have just felt interested in meeting North Indian woman. Although yes... this goes against my idea of being completely free of any and all (lack of better words... native culture)... it does appeal to a homely side of me that still likes my mother's Indian cooking, enjoying Hindi movies with the family and some Indian music as well.

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