I'm Pro-choice & Pro-abortion

i'm Pro-choice & Pro-abortion

This myTake is purely my opinion & I'm not claiming to be an expert on this topic just giving my 2 cents.

I am pro-choice which as you know is the view point of giving women the right to decide what to do in the case of an unwanted pregnancy.

I am also pro-abortion; this doesn't mean I'm about to include a link to a kickstarter campaign where we just ban babies and force abortions, but I believe that to be honest it's none of my fucking business what a woman chooses to do with her body but I will support her right to do so. I would never shame a woman into keeping the baby. Many pro-lifers give the argument of adoption, think of how many unwanted children are already lost in the system & how much it's costing the government as well as how bad it is for the children themselves, the minorty of children given up actually get adopted.

A lot of pro-lifers only fight for the fetus's righs until its born then they don't give a shit. I see lifers protest outside clinics but I never see them offering to take the child in.

Anoher point I would like to bring up is body autonomy.

A really good example of this is shown here:

I'm Pro-choice & Pro-abortion

Ahy should a woman be forced to givew over her body and sacrifice her rights for this?

'Well it was her fault unprotected sex blah blah blah'

But think of this how many of you haven't had a slip up honestly.

Aay you got drunk and had a one nighter (or just a one nighter in general, no sex shaming tbh).

Or your condom broke.

Birth control failed (& it does I myself am the product of a failure on the behalf of a contraceptive pill).

Maybe even rape.

Or you just forgot to wear a condom.

It only takes one slip up to get pregnant and for that you should have a baby you don't want & possibly can't care for?

Making abortion illegal

Again goes against body autonomy which goes against human rights. And the big one in favour of legal abortion is obviously laws against abortion do not stop abortion; they simply make it less safe. The number of women who get abortions does not change when it goes from being legal to illegal. The only thing that changes is more women die. When abortions were illegal in my contry they still went on just many many women were fucked up by it to say the least e.g they died like litterally fucking died, of had their reproductive stystem so damaged they were unable to ever become pregnant again (may not seem like a big deal but think of it this way you may not want kids when you're 16 but you can easily change your mind by the time you're 30).

Religious arguments

Okay I'm a little rusty on this because its been like a few years since I studied religious studies.

In Christianity the Bible never mentions abortion and does not deal with the question of when life begins. Infact The Book of Exodus clearly indicates that the fetus does not have the same legal status as a person (Chapter 21:22-23). That verse indicates that if a man pushes a pregnant woman and she then miscarries, he is required only to pay a fine. If the fetus were considered a full person, he would be punished more severely as though he had taken a life.

In islam many believe abortion is acceptable before 120 day. This has to do with ensoulment e.eg the fetus then becomes a person or something I'm not too sure. But before 120 days the mothers rights take president and it is up to her.

I'm not going to give anymore examples because those are the two I remember and I dont want to spread information I'm not informed about.

This doesn't mean I would get an abortion but it annoys me how people who have never been in that situation before throw out hate filled opinions or argue one is okay but...

Here is no but...

Rights do not decrease when we use them!

It was her body the first time and guess what?

Still her body the 100th time.

Don't like abortion dont get one!

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  • Nice one!! So well thought out, and so well put. I think this is one of the two best myTakes I've seen on here.

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  • glad someone finally sat down and just told it!

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  • Seriously, this is my favorite post on this topic so far. AWESOME job!

  • This is beautiful. Like, I can't find words to express how much I love this take. I'm gonna screen shot it and keep it because it makes me feel a lot better about they way I believe. Thank you :)

    • That made my day a little brighter thank you

    • I'm loving the clear divide between my upvotes and downvotes. Really, it's hilarious and shows the biggest problem we have when trying to solve the abortion debate. Men say it's wrong to think these things and try to abolish any contraceptive method because THEY'RE NOT THE ONES GETTING PREGNANT.

  • "Pro-lifers" are usually full of shit.
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    • Also noteworthy: they don't care about the woman's life. They don't care if her body is destroyed by the pregnancy, if she's not financially stable, mentally stable or in general stable enough to take care of a kid. Pro-lifers merely view pregnancy as a punishment. It shouldn't be like that.

  • Really great take. Anyone who thinks my aunt deserved to die when her pregnancy was killing her is sick, she already had two children and would have left them motherless! But pro-lifers are just perverts who want to punish women for having sex, if they were really pro-life they'd be against wars, the death sentence, guns, and children being left to starve! They'd rather protect a clump of cells than a living breathing child who is getting abused! dear pro-lifers a better use of your time than harassing women outside of health clinics who mayor may not even be getting an abortion would be volunteering to help CHILDREN and struggling mothers! But no you are hypocrites!

  • Uhh... I don't mean to be a spin doctor but... let's try not to use the term.
    "Pro-abortion" eh?
    It kinda gives people on the fence the wrong idea that we are celebrating abortions.
    We are not. We are giving the autonomy of the body back to women , that's it.

  • I agree with you 100%. It annoys me when someone says that adoption is a better alternative than abortion- the woman will still suffer the nasty consequences of pregnancy only to give up the product of it if she goes for this option.
    Another thing is that people call fetuses babies, but they can't be babies until they're fully developed- can live outside the uterus which isn't until after they're born.
    Yeah, I know that some babies are born prematurely- 6,7, 8, month- and they most likely won't survive without incubators.

  • I disagree with you. You say you're pro-choice but nobody asked the fetus/baby if it wanted to live or die. If you abort he/she won't have a say about it. Your entire argument about body autonomy dies there. 'You' chose to protect 'yourself' in detriment to someone who barely had the chance to exist. To defend choice you must allow others to choose their future, and your point of view simply won't allow that.
    When it comes to rape the situation becomes a lot different. The woman probably will never live an entirely normal life and probably will always fear that the child becomes as agressive as his/her father. The damage caused both to mother and child will probably be very big. Considering the future consequences of allowing such pregnancy to go on I understand perfectly if she decides to abort. It's not the happiest ending possible for this story but it's one I believe most will a agree to be a less painful one.
    On the other hand, when a woman that wasn't drugged by someone else, no matter if drunk or not, has sex and gets pregnant they have a responsibility over it. She's not a victim. She's a sexually able being who should already be responsible enough not to go around having unprotected sex. That is valid for most men and women in the world.
    You used that reddit post as an argument. The right the law gives to decide the destiny of your organs is more religious than anything else. In some countries (namely Germany, one of the most civilized and ethic countries on modern days) you can't decide many things that happen to the body unless you're capable of paying a high price. What happens to your body is a matter of public healthcare and well-being. The needs of the many exceed the needs of the few.
    Furthermore, as a med student, the whole "its not alive" argument is the stupidest thing I've heard. A fetus is a mass of alive cells with the biological aim of becoming a fully formed human being. It is alive. Denying that only shows that many 'pro-choice' only fight for their own convenience, making excuses to deny anything that can possibly relate abortion to murder.
    Also, the comparison over the 'donating blood case' made me think you believe law and justice to be one and the same, or at least very alike, but they aren't. With that in mind I feel the need to express that you have the right not to donate blood on the rather well-described situation, but that doesn't make your option ethical.

    • Okay I appreciate you taking the time to write a well informed opinion. But the way you put it you're making pregnancy and having a child a punishment for having sex. No one should be forced tp gove up there body. The cells are living but they're just that cells I give up cells everyday. Women should not have the decision made for them a decision that could put their health in danger or throw them into poverty

  • My thoughts exactly.

    P. s- All those prolifers who harass women for wanting to abort better be adopting those children and giving them a chance!

    • Have you ever heard of ideology or religion, neither forces you to personally compensate others, for their own faults!!! Rather than adoption, however about free birth control. Using birth control should't be a problem for anybody.

    • Your right, it is their OWN FAULTS. There's no "YOU" there. Because when push comes to shove, "saving" that child only means harassing the mother into having the child. I never see the pro lifers offering to help with costs of the pregnancy, or even buying anything or paying visit to the child and mother to see how their doing. It's okay to voice your opinion, ideologies, or whatever religion your heart follows. But that doesn't mean people have to listen to them. Free birth control? are you serious? Birth control isn't 100% effective. People will still have sex. If lack of access to birth control was the leading cause of abortion, then I'd agree.

    • I'm just so done with this subject. I'm going to log off before things get any worse. Because they will.

  • Not to spur hate here, but why exactly is the "don't have sex if u don't want a child" argument invalid here? Sex biologically is there for just that. Procreating. And humanity does not have a 100% effective birth control method except for abstinence. Why is it that people can so freely choose to have sex knowing that there always is that chance to get pregnant? Always.

    • cont. But they are unwilling to take responsibility for taking that chance. However small it may be with condoms or pills. Even if it's less than 5%. It's still there.

    • No one has responded because they cannot rebut this.

    • So everytime you have sex you do it to pro-create? People have sex for fun its a fact babies shouldn't be used as a punishment for people doing something natural

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  • Preach! This is exactly what I've been trying to explain to other people. Thank you for this. :)

  • totally agree a womans body is nobodies property! Pro-life? Adopt and unwanted CHILD not baby

  • So what happens when the baby can survive at any stage outside the womb? you will be responsible for child support is what. The father will also have a right to claim the child because as soon as it's outside your body it is it's own person with all the human rights you have.

    Abortion is only legal so long as the baby can't survive without the mother or medical intervention and the gape to having an artificial womb is getting VERY small.

  • you can't tell me that it's okay to kill a baby, sorry but no matter what situation you're in it makes you a murderer if you abort your baby, maybe rape is an exception but you still kil someone who is not at fault like you are, i just can't tolerate murderer no matter the situation

    • I'll say solve the rape issues that letting the mother have the abortion but increase then sentence for the rapist to include the murder of the child - after all he causes the life to begin in a way where it had to end, his fault not hers.

    • If you truly believe its murder then you wouldn't have exceptions

  • An abortion is the most economical solution and makes sense from a government perspective. To proceed with a child without an active father, or a mother with the financial means to take care of it means that the taxpayer picks up the burden. It cuts into our local and state budgets. Also, resources, jobs, etc are scarce as it is. I see why the issue is being pressed. On the other side, an adult woman is less innocent than a child, and what about that child's life? What if the father was willing to take 100 percent guardianship over that kid, and mother didn't have to pay anything or raise it? It's just not as cut and dry as a woman's choice, because it affects others as well, including the life inside her. Were not talking about getting a tattoo, or choosing to go topless to a beach. So yeah, I see both sides on the issue.

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  • ISIS is clear about it: their captives are forced to give blood to ISIS fighters: www.reuters.com/.../us-iraq-yazidi-blood-idUSKBN0KO00D20150115

  • I would have to agree with the Muslims on this one.

  • Preach it sister 🙌👏

  • My son was born premature and it restored my faith in God so yeah I disagree. Don't like babies? Don't have sex!

  • I see children as a gift from God, and if you didn't want any (I'm talking to both people here), then don't have sex or have it with a condom. Even the pull out method is well, most of the time.
    Or you can track the menstrual cycle for "safe" days!!
    There are ways around this!!!

    I do think abortion should be case by case basis.

    Rape: Yes, that child will be a constant reminder of the event/incident, and I don't think the child should grow up with that.. shit on their head.

    Consensual sex w/o the SO present: Um, why have unprotected sex with someone you are unsure will stay (for women) or risk fathering a child with a person you didn't want to with (for the men)? Use the methods I mentioned above.

    Consensual sex with the SO present: If the potential father is in the potential mother's life, then he should have a say in the matter. There should be a discussion on what each would like to do and maybe come to a compromise.

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