Why are some average penis guys upset if a girl prefers bigger?

[udolipixie]

Why do some guys with average penises get so upset if a girl says she prefers a larger penis? Rebuttal to common arguments 1.Preference is not a bad thing. Following it is not a bad thing either. Guys have a preference on vagina size to. 60% of women are naturally average, 30% naturally large, 10% naturally tight Bet a lot of guys wouldn't want the 30% girls. 2. It's not being picky despite the fact that penis size "can't" be changed (surgery). We're not talking about changeability we're talking about if average. And for some factors average is not. Average in personality -if it was good then people would describe themselves as average not smart, witty, charming, understanding, caring, etc Average in intelligence - no way the average American isn't that bright. thanks education system and tv. Average in weight- no way that's obese/overweight. 68% of Americans are overweight 34% overweight/34% obese Average is not always good enough. We're not talking about changeability but if you want average.

[Anonymous]

Hey QA just wanted to pick up on this old thread. To give you another perspective.

FYI I am an average sized guy, but good looking in other respects and have had women pleased by the size of my c*ck and others like yourself that would have rathered I was bigger. I have no problem with that and I think you are right. Each person is entitled to their own opinion and if the Kama Sutra is to be believed (the most respected book on sexuality) then it is quiet natural for you to have this preference as it will feel better for you for if as your preference would indicate your vagina is of a larger size (you vagina may be very tight for all I know, its just what your preference would indicate according to the Kama Sutra, in the same way that if a man indicates that most women don't satisfy him because they are not tight enough it would appear that he is small).

My university studies have led me into biology and evolution.

As you know biological traits are passed down from generation to generation based on their success at breeding.

A man with a big p*nis is likely to have a father with a big p*nis who was selected by the mother because that is what satisfied her. In that way the big p*nis gene tends to get past down and the offsprings p*nises tend to become larger... the woman is sexually selecting her partners based on penis size and if she has his baby is likely to also have a large penis.

Now a man with a small p*nis is likely to have a father with a small p*nis so it is highly likely that the mother selected him to be the father of her children for a factor other than p*nis size (like intelligence or beauty). Hence her children will probably have smaller p*nises but be more intelligent/better looking etc depending on the reason she chose her mate.

Now my question to you is: you have a preference for large p*nises. Do you have a preference for your male offspring to have large p*nises or higher intelligence?

Now I am just supplying you with an evolutionary persecutive. Their are men with large p*nises who are extremely intelligent and beautiful and you may well get someone who is a perfect 10 in every category. But if it came down to a choice, in terms of the genetics you had to pass to your children, and you had to choose between p*nis size or health or intelligence or beauty etc... would it still hold?

And if you ever did have a child with a small p*nis would you want him to grow up into a young man who felt proud of who he was and felt that he was sexually attractive and satisfying for women or would you want him to feel bad about himself?

Two wrongs don't make a right, I don't like seeing women with negative body image so I don't put women down with regard to their bodies (despite having my own preferences). I think that is moral behavior .

The comments you make are damaging to male body image and if you wanted to behave morally this would be unacceptable.

As they say, if you don't have anything nice to say it's better to say nothing at all

[udolipixie]

Seems you're overlooking some things: - for some time success at breeding didn't require the gal's consent as gals were often regarded as property so this whole small d*ck passed down because of other desirable traits is a bit iffy - more likely wealth and status are the main factors gals select guys with small d*cks - a gal can father a child with a different man than the one she's f*cking there are sperm banks operating for designer children

[udolipixie]

I said wanting a certain size is a preference and it's not being picky those aren't comments are damaging to male body image in terms of d*ck size. The only the damaging comments to the male body image I made were in reference to weight. Amusing mansplaining though of how damaging it is to the male body image and how it makes guys feel bad about themselves to tell them it's a gal preference and she's not being picky if she wants a certain d*ck size..

[udolipixie]

Your emotional ploy analogy along with not being applicable as I don't want a male child and would abort one is also quite illogical as this question isn't putting down guys of any size and telling them it's a gals preference and it's not being picky so stop getting p*ssy at gals for having them. If anything it's implying the gender that's being put down is gals for daring to have a preference over what is going to be inside them.

[Opinion Owner]

Am no way I am against women having a preference in size. I merely saying to say so publicly in forums of men is something that negatively effects their self esteem. I speak out against men who select women based on characteristics they have little natural choice over (like breast size) and do the same when women speak about the same characteristics with men. Ultimately we have a choice - to work together to build a better world or not. The key to building a better world is ... (Cont)

[udolipixie]

I am saying a gal stating her d*ck size preference isn't a comment that is damaging to male body image. Touting her preference as the ideal for everyone, insulting guys who don't fit the preference, etc would be damaging. In my opinion if a gal saying her preference negatively affects guys self-esteem is guys issues. The key to building a better world in my opinion is not limiting freedom of speech and coddling others from words that aren't insulting or degrading.

[Opinion Owner]

You chased various guys that were having a mature conversation with you down over their comments. On another persons page you laughed at a man (who obviously in pain) said that he had a 3" p*nis. I am happy for girls to talk about preference but I think the right way to bring it up is to say I think my p**** is larger than average so I need a larger than average penis. This would not upset men ;) I also feel if men said "I have small penis so I desire a small vagina" it would b better ;)

[udolipixie]

Bullsh*t. I didn't chase any guys that had a mature conversation with me on this page. Most guys were hostile degrading and only insulted me. I didn't on another person's page laugh at a guy because he had a 3'' d*ck. I did answer the QA saying I laughed at a guy who had his d*ck size. I have a 10% vagina meaning it's below average size so this whole gals with p*ssy large than average need larger than average d*cks is idiotic as the average vagina when aroused is more than the average d*ck.

[Opinion Owner]

How do you know you have a 10% vagina huh? :) Why is that important to you? I don't care if my girlfriend is incredibly tight, normal or large. I've had each and the experience with each was different and I could do different things with each one, can't say I have a preference. Too small definitely probably sucked the most though because we were the most restricted in what was comfortable for her. But hey, it's OK to have a preference. I didn't see anyone insulting you but sorry if I missed that

[Anonymous]

From the male response to these questions if you didn't know it was damaging to men now you do. No more excuses, you have heard it repeatedly by those qualified to say (men) it is damaging to us (how damaging do you think it is to blacks for people to say they prefer white people?) Why do you think it is impossible to buy a skin care product in asia that isn't whitening and that every single model they use in beauty advertising is white or half caste? Do you think it is cool that these women cry themselves to sleep and spend thousands making themselves unrecognisable? I don't.

And I fight against it.

The only moral way to act is to treat others how you wish to be treated (or more accurately to treat them with consideration for how they would wish to be treated). Your behavior fails this moral test and so is immoral. Not in a religious sense, in a human to human, respectful behavior sense.

Another reason womens sex lives are so crummy (on average) is that the big d*ck guys they do get think that all they need to do to please a woman is a big d*ck because that is what they like. Similarly girls who want and are happy with guys with average or less have to put up with all of the guys insecurities because he isn't "blessed".

It hurts women and hurts men. By all means I support freedom of speech, I do not feel that your comments should be made illegal. But just because you are free to say anything you want doesn't make everything you say nice to say.

You are free to say things that others find insulting as much as you want to the detriment of other people. being free to say these things doesn't make it right to say them.

People that are brought up right are brought up to treat others with respect and to act morally. Some of us do our parents a disservice and forget that (I did for years). But it never hurts to be reminded that we are all on this planet together and we can make it a more sh*tty place for other people or a less sh*tty place for other people depending on how we act. You are free to make your choice.

[udolipixie]

From the male response to these comments I know that guys are hostile degrading and insulting when a gal's preferences excludes them. That's not damaging to male self-esteem that's throwing a tantrum because someone doesn't want you. I haven't made any excuses a gal saying her preference isn't damaging male self-esteem. Again touting her preference as the ideal for everyone, insulting guys who don't fit the preference, etc would be damaging.

[udolipixie]

Your Asian whitening beauty products question supports my statements as white skin is touted as the ideal in those countries. So again saying a preference isn't damaging but touting it as the ideal is. In my opinion you fight against freedom of speech and fight to coddle guys from ever having to endure the oh so horrible and damaging pain of hearing a gal say she has a preference he doesn't fit.

[Opinion Owner]

I wanted to give you another insight. If I were successful at giving you a different insight I feel I would be helping other women and other men. Too many people feel bad about themselves on the planet and I am not cool with that ;) Believe me when you are on the wrong side of a body debate you too will get hurt, and it will happen some day because it is a fact of life. But s'ok. I tried. I don't expect to reach everyone - I see your points & it's cool can still you respect you for them!

[udolipixie]

My behavior doesn't fail this moral test as I have no issue with a person saying they have a preference I don't fit. Though in my opinion it isn't immoral to say you have a preference just because some may not fit it. Egh your 'reason' gals sex lives are so crummy is bs as it seems on average guys of any size don't even consider a gal's pleasure. You are free to continue to be holier than thou and coddle guys from the immorality that I hearing a gal say a preference they don't fit. LMFAO

[Opinion Owner]

Re: Ideal. You expressed to me that you feel your vagina is small (I put it to you you did so because you unconsciously believe this is the ideal, and that you think this because of witnessing repeated stated preference of men for this to be the case). I put it to you that the 'ideal' for a penis is large (not because this is biologically true but because of repeated stated 'preference' of women that it is so). It is repeated statement of preference that creates the "IDEAL".

[udolipixie]

You gave no different insight other than the extent to which guys will be whiny butthurt crybabies that it's immoral for a gal to say a preference a guy doesn't fit...really wtcupcake. o.O I don't believe I'll be on the wrong side of a body debate and get hurt as I'm fine with people saying and having preferences.

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah you are right, racism, sexism, ageism, body-ism every form of manipulation, discrimination and disenfranchisement of my fellow human beings is on my hitlist. Probably on some of those things we would line up on the same side of the fence, on others maybe not. That's cool. I hear everything that you say, and fair enough for you to have that opinion to. You can continue to make posts that upset men and I will try to fix the damage. My effort won't work for most men because they are too insecure:)

[udolipixie]

I didn't state I feel my vagina is small. I stated my vagina is of the 10% below average it's not feeling it's a fact as I actually go to a gynecologist though nice ASSumptions about my unconscious beliefs. Repeated statements of preference are those individual's preferences. It is society's standards that creates the ideal not individual's preference. Though nice attempt on the whole limiting freedom of speech bit when it comes to saying preference because it's immoral and oh so damaging.

[udolipixie]

Seems more like coddling guys from the immorality and damaging to their self-esteem of hearing a gal say a preference they don't fit is on your hitlist. Likely you could better 'fix the damage' of guys being butthurt by recommending a therapist for their anger and insecurity issues that they're upset at a gal saying a preference they don't fit.

[Opinion Owner]

Sure you won't end up on the wrong side of the body debate? Childbirth, Age, Accidents... some things we can avoid others not. I sincerely hope it is age that finally places you on the wrong end of the stick and even then it would be great if we had been done with marginalising old people for their appearance by then also! Peace and respect!

[udolipixie]

I'm sure as again I don't have any issue with a person having or saying a preference. Then again unlike you I don't find it immoral and oh so damaging to body image. Absolutely amusing you say 'peace and respect' after sincerely hoping ill for me. Laters quite entertaining mansplaining.

[Opinion Owner]

Ah well about measurements I am spot on average for length and in the 10% percentile larger than average for girth (which supposedly is more important). But like - I think so what? Even if I had a preference for different sized vaginas (which I don't) why would I go around to women saying so. Say I prefer small vaginas and a woman posted "My vagina is really large will men want me?" what benefit do I give by telling her "Ah I laugh at girls like you, I would never hit that!"

[Opinion Owner]

huh? I don't wish you any ill. You have misinterpreted, I wish those things don't happen to you (the bad things). I want you to get the good things, just not the negative body image that can be associated with some things. But yeah you are right, we have spent too much time on this. later!

[udolipixie]

Freedom of speech or answering a question about your preference. would be why you could go around to gals saying your preference. In your example seems you get the benefit of honesty if that's what you do and think. You're quite entertaining if that was a reference to my answer to the 3'' QA because that's some twisting as the QA asked for personal opinion and personal reactions to a guy that size not 'would gals or certain gals want me'.

[udolipixie]

"I sincerely hope it is age that finally places you on the wrong end of the stick "...yeah that's not sincerely hoping ill for me. Later go on with your crusade to coddle guys from the immoral and self-esteem damaging horror of hearing gals say a preference they don't fit. LMFAO

[Opinion Owner]

The reason why I hoped that it was old age that placed you on the wrong end of body image (and even then wished we didn't have negative image of old peoples bodies) was that I had used accident in the same sentence. I wanted to make it clear I wasn't wishing you an accident that is all! Seriously! I sense a quick with behind your thinking so think you have many interesting conversations with people. Good stuff, you're a challenge, not sure I can win, but worth the try ;) Goodluck!

[udolipixie]

I got your intention it was clear that you said you sincerely hope ill for me that ill being on the wrong end of body image when I age not an accident. I find it amusing that I'm supposedly this immoral person when you're the one sincerely hoping ill for a person for saying something you don't like. Unsure what 'challenge' you think is worth the try to win as I've already said your 'insight' is nothing to me other than amusement. No luck needed on my part.

[Opinion Owner]

I just explained my intentionI don't think I can be any clearer than that. Anyhow I see more damn insecure questions coming up from guys on GAG! God dammit I wish they would just stop asking. Its not so hard to find out from the women in your life what they want! Seems we live in the age of insecurity! Oh Well! Try to do a good deed... but I'm not superman. I will leave you to it.

[udolipixie]

"I sincerely hope it is age that finally places you on the wrong end of the stick"...yeah it was pretty clear you don't hope I have an accident rather you sincerely hope I'm on the wrong side of body image when I age. Again likely it's better to recommend a therapist to butthurt guys for their anger and insecurity issues.

[Opinion Owner]

Listen. Everyone is on the wrong side of body image when they are old. I was wishing you have a long and fruitful life. I am not hurt by your comments, insecure or wishing you bad. I have repeated this 3 times. I was trying to point out to you at some stage in our lives none of our bodies are ideal (unless we die young and beautiful) so that we will all experience pain about body image at some point. That is all. I repeated this many times and took the very first opportunity to clarify for u.

[udolipixie]

'Wrong side of body image' are my words so don't bs like it's a case of everyone grows older and aren't commonly preferred. Your words were 'body debates' and hoping I end on the wrong end of the stick when I age because I said I don't do 'body debates'. You were not wishing me a long and fruitful life. You were sincerely hoping ill for me me. You can backpedal all you want doesn't change the words.

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know why you think I wanted to wish you ill. I have clarified multiple times what I said and did so in the very first instance when you misunderstood. Defending people is my style not attacking them, which is the whole point of how I came to message u. I could of taken a misogynists stance about size of vaginas or breasts or whatever but I did not. I merely sought to point out to you that criticising bodies hurts people. For the record I think preferences are fine but should be addressed tactfully

[udolipixie]

I've quoted where you sincerely hoped ill for me and backpedaling is not clarifying. Likely defending people who do and say what you want is your style. Telling how you seem to be wanting kudos for not being a misogynists..o.O You didn't merely seek to point out that criticizing bodies hurts people as this QA isn't criticism bodies. This QA is saying it's a gal's preference and it's not picky. You went on a personal tirade calling me immoral and basically telling me to stfu.

[udolipixie]

LMFAO @ "I think preferences are fine but should be addressed tactfully" Yeah because saying it's a gal's preferences and it's not her being picky isn't addressing it tactfully oh no that's being immoral and making comments damaging to male body image.

[Opinion Owner]

your comment to Mr 3" were not tactful. That's what brought me here. I didn't want to have the discussion in from of him because of tact ;) Example: Girl says "I think my vagina is too big I am depressed" Tactful response "Don't worry about it, some guys love that, some don't but there will be plenty of guys that will like you as you are" Hurtful response "hahaha, nobody will ever want you, I only like small vaginas like most guys". These are my words not meant to represent yours.

[Opinion Owner]

and my comments do not represent my real beliefs in vaginas. I like them all equally :) I gave that dude what I thought was a helpful advice about finding his match. And wish him good luck. Come on put yourself in his shoes, that's all I am saying. That's what I do when I talk out about breast surgery and all that. My girlfriend is finally happy with her body after and it makes me so happy (she is genuinely attractive BTW) but had to understand that she didn't need plastic double D's to be beautif

[udolipixie]

My comment to 3'' was stating my personal opinion and reaction not my preference. Your example isn't comparable to his QA asked what's your opinion on small penis and how would you react to one. So in otherwords you got butthurt by my answer asking for my opinion and reaction and came on your own personal rant agenda that is quite irrelevant to this QA.

[Opinion Owner]

No I think it is relevant. And I am not butthurt and I think I have articulated my opinion to you clearly, as have many other men in answer to your question. The butthurt men are the ones that have attacked you, the ones that have responded without rancour but want to explain something to you (like myself) are the ones that have merely articulated a position. We have explained, you haven't "got it" what we are saying. Maybe because we are wrong or just not getting through to you.

[udolipixie]

Seems more like what you're saying is a personal rant agenda with some shaming (immoral), blaming (holding me responsible for guys self-esteem damage), and hoping ill for me (sincerely hoping I'm on the wrong side of the 'body debate' when I age) all because you got butthurt by my opinion and reaction. I see no reason to put myself in his shoes when there are so many willing to coddle and defend him. Though if I did I'd see it as someone giving me their opinion and reaction which I asked for.

[Opinion Owner]

I have pointed out that it is my opinion that your approach to the issue hurts men (and in a round about way hurts women) and if the same logic as you use is used by men (which it is) then this also hurts women (and in a round about way, men). You completely disagree with me. I get it. Either I am wrong and you are right, vice versa or something in-between. We are not going to agree on it and it will be left for other people to read our comments and give their opinion.

[udolipixie]

It's not relevant. That was stating my personal opinion and reaction to a scenario when asked for it. This is about preferences. There's no relevance other than my opinion and reaction lead you here due to butthurt. You seem to be quite butthurt as you say it brought you here and you went on a personal rant spanning two answers. I got what you're saying it's immoral and oh so damaging to male body image for a gal to say her preference.

[udolipixie]

You haven't said anything about my approach 'hurting' men until just recently as before it was all how immoral and damaging it is for a gal to say her preference. This opinion of my 'approach' was just brought in when you revealed it was your butthurt by my answer of my opinion/reaction on another question that lead you to my QA with your personal rant agenda.

[Opinion Owner]

My comments to you have been courteous & respectful at all times. And where you mistakenly thought otherwise I immediately clarified for you. I have assured you that I am not butthurt nor interested in ranting at you. I wanted to point out to you that the comments you have made on various posts (including Mr 3") are hurtful to male self esteem and body image. You have made clear that you disagree. I accept that you disagree and no longer want to make any effort to change your mind.

[udolipixie]

LMFAO @ your comments being courteous and respectful at all times. I didn't mistakenly think otherwise as "I sincerely hope it is age that finally places you on the wrong end of the stick "is hoping ill for me and backpedaling isn't clarifying. You are butthurt as your dislike of my answer on other QA brought you here. You are ranting as you made 2 lengthy answers about your personal agenda about me not the QA. Your seemingly intention being to change my mind shows your butthurt and agenda.

[Opinion Owner]

I have no interest in insulting you and have clarified the sentence you keep repeating. It was part of a paragraph that was supposed to have this meaning. We all end up with bodies people think are unattractive. Maybe its an accident, birth scars or we just grow old. It cannot be avoided because if we are lucky we all grow old. I hope you get to grow old but by the time you do we no longer care so much about bodies and that old people bodies are no longer seen as inferior.

[Opinion Owner]

Think about what I have been encouraging (the use of language that creates +ve body image) and what I have been ranting about (language that creates -ve body image) does it not seem consistent? I do not wish you ill. I merely wanted to encourage you to use language that promotes +ve body image rather than -ve. This is an issue that predominantly affects women & minorities but also affects men.

[udolipixie]

Like I said backpedaling is not clarifying. I find it amusing you claim to have no interest in insulting me when you came here for an ulterior motive and creating two answers for your personal rant about me. Unsure why you're telling me we all end up with bodies people think are unattractive as no one is attractive to everyone and again "I don't have any issue with a person having or saying a preference. Then again unlike you I don't find it immoral and oh so damaging to body image."

[Opinion Owner]

It is far more important IMO that we stop the language that affects women & minorities as they are more vulnerable in their position in society but causing the same kind of butthurt (as you put it) for men is not positive either. 2 wrongs do not make a right. But I repeat I understand and respect that you feel your language does not have this negative effect on men. I accept that and do not wish to try to convince you any further.

[udolipixie]

You're been a consistent backpedaling holier than thou bullsh*tter in my opinion. Again yeah sincerely hoping I'm on the wrong side of the 'body debate' is not hoping ill for me..LMAO LMFAO at you 'encouraging' me no just no more like you merely wanted to change what I do to suit you because you got butthurt by my personal opinion/reaction of a scenario so you came here to personal rant agenda with some shaming, blaming, insulting, sincerely ill hoping, and basically telling me to shut up.

[udolipixie]

Again what is 'far more important' has nothing to do with my QA. Nowhere does my QA criticizes guy's bodies or uses negative language to body image. It about a gal saying her preference and how it isn't being picky yet due to your butthurt you span two lengthy answers to 'encourage' me to do and say what you want me to seemingly wanting kudos for not being misogynistic about it as well. Laters on you finally accepting me not doing/saying what you want.

[mr_mxy]

if your in the 10% than what is your preference

[eithyy]

For the same reason girls flip their sh*t when guys say they prefer bigger/smaller/whatever breasts. They all go, "oh, damn, I'm not that exact same size so I must be unattractive and/or completely undesirable," which is ridiculous and untrue. However, guys and girls should be allowed to have preferences without being judged because that's all they are. Preferences. It isn't as if we're all telling each other we won't date anyone that doesn't EXACTLY match our criteria and preferences because that would stupid. It also doesn't mean that anyone who doesn't EXACTLY match them won't be any good. Skill is what mostly affects how good it'll feel for us, if its bigger that's just a bonus.

Anyway. I'm done with my rant now.

[Anonymous]

I really have no idea. It's kind of silly really.

Some of them react so negatively when girls have sexual preferences too... I don't see many girls reacting as strongly if a guy prefers a girl with a hot body (big boobs, nice ass, small waist, long legs, and all) or a girl with no meat curtains.

Fact is, we all have our preferences. Having those general preferences doesn't make us less moral than everyone else.

Sometimes we never end up being with the person we imagined to be ideal. The beauty of that is we learn to love those flaws and in turn be satisfied with the relationship.

[Anonymous]

Guys tend to be upset when you say they have an average sized penis, because it is their goal in life to have a big penis that feels good for all girls. Sometimes lying and saying you think it's big is the best way to deal with this situation.

[udolipixie]

Really you'd lie to give them a big ego instead of them just accepting & being happy with reality? Sad basis for a relationship.

[Shaun]

Then don't sleep with them. If they don't meet your standards, don't sleep with them. You should wear a shirt or something that says "must be so big in order to ride this ride", problem solved.

[udolipixie]

@Shaun If they don't meet your standards, don't sleep with them. Isn't that what people without a lot of sexual regrets do? I don't need a shirt I could just tell the guy.

[Shaun]

But if you wear the shirt, they don't even have to waste their time and energy talking to you.

[udolipixie]

Then everyone should wear start wearing shirts "No weird nipples" "No stretchmarks" "No back/stomach fat" "No hairy chests" "No hairy balls" "no hairy crotch" It's much easier just to tell the guy/girl your preferences before you even get there.

[mr_mxy]

"Really you'd lie to give them a big ego instead of them just accepting & being happy with reality?" why should they be happy with reality with people like you shaming them?

[JonnyGR]

Well. Imo, I'm very lucky in that department. Not so lucky to impress you, because, from your answers and questions, you seem like a horrible character that's best to be avoided.

Average is what's ecological in how the worlds made up. 'Mr average face' - or the 'golden ratio' - which can be applied to anything as a mean objective to dimensions, both support this, in which the mean of say 100 faces, proves to be the most attractive.

This goes the same for sexual intercourse. As the 'Average' penis fits the 'Average vagina' for peak pleasure in sexual intercourse.

Big penis's are usually desired because of evolutionary traits, in which a big penis' is perceived as a more fertile man, carrying more testosterone to pass on to the offspring, as well as the length seems to manipulate in girls minds the outcome that his 'load' of sperm will more likely reach the egg.

This is an evolutionary perspective. There's also social perspectives, in which history has sustained that a bigger penis is more desirable. But like many others does not always cause most pleasurable sex. Its all programmed into us either way - that big penis's are the dogs.

But hopefully someone will treat you the same way soon as your attitude leads you to treat others.

'Oh, your breasts are a C 34 cup. I need a D cup, because love is artificial and no other aspects fall into it other than physical characteristics' Nice stuff, god help the guy you get with lol. If you ever do find someone as black and white and naive as yourself.

[udolipixie]

@JonnyGR lmfao based on your answer your character is just as horrible. I don't post answers just to personally insult others my answers others find shallow. However I don't insult others unprovoked...like you did..and no finding my answers shallow is not provocation..provocation is a personal attack, name calling, or insults. so "But hopefully someone will treat you the same way soon as your attitude leads you to treat others. " LMAO XD

[udolipixie]

@JonnGR Thanks for the laugh I just love when people try to tell me how horrible I am when usually it's them whose lacking character for insulting someone without provocation because their opinion is different or because they find them shallow. LMAO XD it's so common on this site and in real life though thank god none of my social circle are that lacking in character

[tom-tom-traveler]

I've never been confronted with that situation, so I'm going to have to take a guess on this one. Perhaps those who get 'challenged' on their average endowment get upset because they're being taunted (in their eyes) for something that they're incapable ot helping.

Surgical enhancement aside, most men are stuck with what they have...

My guess is that the same reaction would be had from a woman if a guy said to her "I'm sorry, but your breasts are too small. I prefer larger ones."

[udolipixie]

Not really I can't see anyone getting upset just because someone didn't like something about them Not everyone is going to like everything. Heck not even parents like everything about their kids.

[tom-tom-traveler]

I've seen some people get really testy about stuff like that, so I'm going to go against your presumption by saying that people react differently to what they perceive to be criticism. For example, I actually saw a physical reaction when a guy admitted to a young woman that he preferred black girls (both were white). She slapped him, then stormed off. I'm assuming that they had been together for more than just a platonic event.

[sinful1620]

It's like when a guy refuses to date a girl who isn't lighter than 100 pounds with at least C-cup breasts. We have no control over our bodies, so you'd just be a bitch demanding a guy have some monster-sized penis.

[udolipixie]

Whether you can change the trait a guy/girl doesn't like doesn't make the person any better/worse for preferring it. It's like when a guy refuses to date a girl who isn't lighter than 100 pounds with at least C-cup breasts. I know guys like this and I say go for it. We have no control over our bodies That doesn't mean everyone should like everything about everyone's body People have no control over attraction either

[JustChris]

You're right.

[KarKingJack]

Its an excuse, an easy one too. The 'I can't get laid because I have a small penis' ideology is really whacked out, you see that a LOT but it makes no sense, because nobody can see what size your d*** is until they're pulling it out, which doesn't happen to them supposedly because of their small or average penis. Which is a bit of a paradox.

Do you ever meet these people in real life? I sure don't. =] Everyones I talk to is pretty happy with their 18 inch d***s, LOL.

[CuriousEddie]

Some guys like it... I mean, some guys like being humiliated a little bit in bed, and being told that other guys are bigger...

[flatironguy]

People are upset because no one likes being excluded from anything. Just because they may not ever want to date a person doesn't mean they like the idea that that person would not want to date them. The short guy hates that girls can be uncomfortable with guys they're taller than. The fat girl hates that guys can be uncomfortable with girls that are heavier than they are. The acne plagued people hate the people who go for a better complexion.

The fact is that there's a myriad of things outside our control that people will judge us on and that's the way it is. You're allowed to like someone because of their sense of humor, because of their hobbies, because of their relationship with their friends and family, because of their education and the fact of the matter is you're allowed to like them for their physical attributes as well.

Sexuality is a part of a relationship or at least should be. And it's not just an emotional thing. It's physical too. In short there's nothing wrong with liking whatever it is you like in people, but no one likes to feel inadequate or excluded.

[Stark]

People get annoyed because decent human beings make compromises. And demanding a dick bigger than say, 8 inch, is downright stupid. For a start, you would only be using it for an extremely small percentage of your relationship, so why is your entire judgment based on something so insignificant? Also, if you know how to use it well, a guy can make you cum with a 3inch dick.

I've never had any problems, and I've always been complimented that its big, but I wouldn't wave my shaft near anyone who demanded a certain penis size.

Guys would love a girl with a really tight vagina, but it would be taking it too far to say that he would only fuck girls with tight vaginas. People need to get over themselves, or you won't get laid in the first place.

[udolipixie]

Vastly different opinions on relationships as I find sex is not an extremely small percentage of relationship. I also find sex in relationships is generally not considered something so insignificant if it was then it seems guys wouldn't have a stipulation on the time it occurs aka 3rd date, cheat when they don't get enough, etc. Egh considering the orgasm gap the whole 'if you know how to use it well, a guy can make you cum with a 3inch dick' seems to be quite skewed exceptional extremist support. It seems most guys don't know how to use their d*cks well and most are average so it's reaching to me to use a guy with 3inch. Possibly you likely wouldn't engage in a sexless lifelong or long term relationship with a gal who chooses to be sexless despite what an extremely small percentage and insignificant you think sex is.

[Yeahhbro]

well it feels like you ruling out guys with average penis and since less than 5% of the male population has penises more than 7 inches long, then that means you are extremely picky and perhaps a bit shallow. I guess its OK if you like bigger penises, I mean I like big boobs, that however doesn't mean I won't date girls with small boobs, my last girlfriend was a cup A and I was OK with it. As long you don't rule out guys with average penises, then you will be ok.

[Jager66]

It's a gut reaction to feeling rejected even if it wasn't meant as rejection. Men and women both react this way, it's not a gender issue.

[irykiryk]

It's something that really imprints on a guys mind... I don't know why, but I guess it's the thought of inadequacy that comes to a guys mind when a girl like you shows up.

It's like that with everything, a person is happy as long as everybody he/she comes in touch with agrees with the person and likes the person but as soon as somebody with a different view comes their whole view changes on everyone.

Guys with average d***s such as me (I think) would see your preference and for some reason think that every girl is the same as you. Fact is there are girls who like big d***s, girls who like small d***s and girls who like small d***s and fact of the matter is there is nothing anybody can do about it and furthermore there is nothing you can do about the way they react either. It's just the way humans work.

Be careful when you reject a guy because of his size, you could cause irreperable dammage to his confidence and ego.

I want to ask. What size specifically do you prefer?

[mikesaracino]

Mostly girls just like d***s that can do the job. Bigger ones just make it so much easier to get the job done. Plus it scratches the itch that shorter guys can't scratch.

[irykiryk]

Actually it depends on the girl. We only think of guys having genital size but girls have genital size too.

[mikesaracino]

Man don't try to counsel me. I've been around the block a few times in my years. Yes it varies on the size of the girl but on average girls like a thick 8 incher. That is sufficient to rub the posterior fornix and girthy enough to hit all the walls and turn her insides out. I'm talking grown women here not the young ones. Those young girls can't handle a big d yet.

[udolipixie]

@mikesaracino Yes the young girls can unless you're talking about middle schoolers.

[dudeman]

girls get bent out of shape when we say we would rather marry a virgine so were even

[udolipixie]

Not really. The guys who say it usually aren't virgins themselves they have a moral standard for sex but have moral conviction and want to excuse their behavior on I'm a guy. A virgin wanting a virgin is cool.

[dudeman]

so, what does that have to do with anything its all preference remember so were even

[dudeman]

if anything your preference is worse, you are selecting a man on something he can't control, the other preference is something that was very much in the womens control

[udolipixie]

A preference for pleasure and a preference for a moral standard you can't uphold is not the same. When morals come into play it's different. It would be even if you said girls get bent out of shape when we say we want hot girls.

[dudeman]

nope who says its a moral thing some/lots just think its a gross thing to commit to a women like that

[dudeman]

its not a double standard because men and women are different from one another and we want gender specific qualities in each other

[dudeman]

thumbs down for telling it like it is

[udolipixie]

Some women think it's gross to commit to a guy like that. People don't want to commit to sexually irresponsible people. That's not gender specific. Women being more forgiving is gender specific. Men want to be forgiven not forgive I never said anything about double standards I said having a moral standard that you make excuses not to abide by.. Being a guy is not an excuse. Biologically women are far more inclined to get as many partners since they have few eggs and have a nine month period.

[dudeman]

yeah who said it had anything to do with morals, and no women are not biologically inclined to get more partners who told you that lie and women that get around are not to be trusted because they know a baby is thers and a man does not have that luxury, a man can cheat a million times and not get her pregnatnant however a man can end up raising another kids child which is very common by the way, so I would say its more about being trust worthy and men need sex far more then women so its more

[dudeman]

understandable that they had sex, but honetly if I didn't want a family with a girl I wouldn't care about her sexual past at all we could just have fun, same with you I assume if you don't want anything serious from a man what does it matter if he has an education and a good job so you see gender specific qualities just accept it

[udolipixie]

I don't lower my standards even for fun.

[udolipixie]

"a man can cheat a million times and not get her pregnat" A woman can cheat a million times and not get pregnant. If that guy could not get those girls pregnant then the opposite is true

[dudeman]

why do you think most don't marry or stay married because we don't offer one another the things we want anymore men are not really men anymore for the most part and women are not really ladies any more so we both lose

[udolipixie]

"a man can cheat a million times and not get her pregnatnant however a man can end up raising another kids child which is very common by the way, so I would say its more about being trust worthy" Men need to be trustworthy too a girl's man could be cheating on her get the chick pregnant and there going their finances and she's involved in that's kids life as long as she's with the guy. Heard of the other child? As for the cheat pregnant that's 10%.

[dudeman]

if a man can trust himself that he won't cheat, he still can't 100% trust a women that's taken other d*** simply because she not to be tusted so its what it is just accept it

[dudeman]

you know I'm right and you grasping at straws men want what they want and women want what they want we are biologically driven, you do know women are far less happy now then 40 years ago

[udolipixie]

if a man can trust himself that he won't cheat, he still can't 100% trust a women that's taken other d*** simply because she not to be tusted so its what it is just accept it Works both ways Women may be less happy but men have always had higher depression/suicide/mental illness rates and it's crazy that it's even higher. Women are less happy because they're being confined to gender roles that don't work anymore.

[udolipixie]

How am I grasping at straws. If a guy can cheat a million times & not get a girl pregnant since those girls didn't get pregnant it stands to reason that a woman can do the same. If sexual history is important to not being raising a child that's not your own then why would women not apply it so that they don't get a guy who cheats & gets a girl pregnant. Trustworthiness is a moral. So if sexual history is important because of trustworthiness it's a moral standard.

[dudeman]

wow your way off men have more deppression and suicide rate you just wrong there, and what social roles are women in last time I checked women lose their virginity around age 16 and file 70% of divorce so your just wrong on a lot of things just now

[udolipixie]

Suicide Rates:

3 -5 more than women around the world

link

Depression:

link

[dudeman]

and women get stretched out d***s don't get smaller the more you use them so there its a pleasure thing too now so by your standards its OK, also men have better imaginations then wome so we would picture it more and have it in our heads again this is a peace of mind things so just admit that's its OK you want a big d*** that's OK I never said anything against that but now I'm the d*** because I want a virgin give me a f***ing break

[udolipixie]

Uh no if you had said tight vagina then it'd be even you said virgin you do know naturally 30% of women are loose so a virgin doesn't guarantee pleasure.

[dudeman]

typical women taking things out of context look at the western nations because we are a western culture the united states was like 17.1 to 4.1 or something like that that's modern society for you I wasn't talking about places that oppress women that's horrible why would you do that a women can do what she wants just don't complain when men don't want to commit. men are men they are not going to turn down sex when the sexual revolution started we got sex a lot eaiser, but nobody told use we would

[dudeman]

even so it would be tighter then it would otherwise and the mental images are still absent so you they both still apply.

[dudeman]

your ridiculus in that link you sent me in almost every country far more men commit suicide, whos more unhappy with the way things are

[udolipixie]

How is it taking it out of context the rate is still higher. The rates of completed suicide are, indeed, much higher among men than among women, by about 3-4 times. FYI you can generalize about all men but I can't provide facts about men worldwide? You can say men and women want different things but my facts must only apply to western men?

[dudeman]

i said men commit suicide more you said women do and you're wrong

[udolipixie]

Women are unhappy with their gender roles (housewife) and the media portrayal not with their lives. More women in college, more women in male dominated fields. Why do you think studies have been done to explain why women are happier/healthier single but men aren't. Why women are happier/healthier divorced but men aren't.

[dudeman]

sorry I read it wrong, so this proves my point that men would prefer it different its preference, were not having kids for a reason and we are not staying together for a reason also

[udolipixie]

I never said that women have higher rates I said Women may be less happy but men have always had higher depression/suicide/mental illness rates and it's crazy that it's even higher. men have always had higher rates = more men than women crazy that it's even higher = men high numbers getting even higher

[dudeman]

itsmjust preference why can't you see that men are allowed to have preference too

[udolipixie]

men would prefer it different its preference, were not having kids for a reason and we are not staying together for a reason also Not getting it? Men prefer shorter lives? More health problems (being married/in a relationship = less stress..well for the male)? I understand the no kids. But that seriously? Or are these the guys who end up one of the men in the more men die alone study (most of those men weren't bachelors- but homeless, depend on siblings, in nursing homes, or had a care take

[udolipixie]

men are allowed to have preference too People are allowed to have preferences but wanting a virgin is not equal to wanting a bigger penis wanting a tight vag = wanting a bigger penis If you want to pull the pleasure aspect out of being with a virgin don't stack on moral standards. A preference for pleasure and a preference for a moral standard you can't uphold is not the same.

[dudeman]

reasons are somtimes complex, I'm done I see further use in discussing this, thank you for your time

[Josht]

Why don't you sit on santa's lap and tell him what you want.

[blondfrog]

That is not always true I like good girls and that is it as soon as I find out she is a bad girl I get turned off you shouldn't make such huge generalizations. Also I don't care about the size of a female's vagina and guys probably get upset cause its seems a bit shallow and guys can't do anything to make their penis bigger.

[udolipixie]

It seems you lack reading comprehension as I wasn't talking about good girls or bad girls. So I didn't make such huge generalizations. LMFAO I find it amusing that being concerned about one's sexual pleasure and orgasm in an act that is supposed to do such is being a bit shallow. Especially coming from a gender that seemingly prioritizes sex in relationships. So it seems sex is important in a relationship but it's a bit shallow for a gal to care about enjoying sex. Actually guys can get surgery to make their penis bigger. Either way guys judge gals on factors they can't change such as age so this is a bit hypocritical to me.

[blondfrog]

Again with the generalizations guys judge girls based off age and that is not always true. As for the surgery it has not been mastered and it damages the skin that is why guys aren't going in to those surgeries to enlarge their penis. Show me an article where the penis enlargement surgery is successful.

[udolipixie]

Again with your lacking reading comprehension it seems. Nowhere did I state always so why are you telling me it's not always true.

I don't think you know what generalizations means.

A generalization isn't stating something always happens. That's an absolute.

In my opinion it's irrelevant if it damages the skin as long as it enlarges the penis it is successful. There are various methods of penis enlargement surgery and there are two successful grafting methods: AlloDerm dermal graft and the dermal fat graft techniques.
www.marksolomonmd.com/.../penis-enlargement.cfm

It seems your real claim is that the penis can't be enlarged with no to little risks/damages. In which case you're backpedaling and changing goal posts.

[udolipixie]

So I'm guessing you're not going to acknowledge or admit that you made a false claim about me making 'such huge generalizations' as nowhere did I talk about good girls or bad girls.

[blondfrog]

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q395284-why-don-t-guys-realize-girls-go-after-bad-boys who is backpedaling now?

[blondfrog]

And you can't be serous those aren't legit sources haha you can't be serious if it was succsessful don't you think it would have been on the news? And the would have put posted it on a scholarly article if it was legit.

[blondfrog]

Sorry for my English its hard to speak in English when you speak 3 different languages.

[Minnerae]

The surgery damages the nerves in the penis which cause the prnis not to have feeling. So It won't get erect which mean no pressure for you

[Minnerae]

Pleasure not pressure

[udolipixie]

I'm not backpedaling. Nowhere in my other question did I state guys always choose bad girls. If I'm backpedaling show me where I state guys always go after bad gals. LMFAO @ you claiming I'm backpedaling because you're talking about another question on this question.

[udolipixie]

A plastic surgeon offering the services is not a legit source...o.O Grafting procedures for penis enlargement has been on the news and it has been posted on a scholarly article. I don't think you know as much about the subject matter as you think. It's heard for you to speak in English when you speak three languages. It wasn't hard for me when I was 4. LOL @ you now being the one to make such huge generalizations.

[udolipixie]

There's even YouTube videos of surgeons performing the procedures...o.O.. Again I don't think you know as much about the subject matter as you think. Perhaps it's not as popularized because it seems guys are under far far far far less pressure to suit female preferences or really suit any beauty/fitness/physical standards. It seems when one talks about plastic surgeon people tend to think about female enhancement not male.

[blondfrog]

Did you read what minnearae said? Where is the scholarly article? And just because plastic surgeons preform it doesn't mean it will actually work the nerves get severely damage and the skin as well. And I am a guy I think I know what I want in a woman. Just cause you are shallow doesn't mean I am speak for only your preferences not every bodies.

[udolipixie]

I've read what minnearea said and it suggests she lacks knowledge. She states the surgery damages nerves yet there are several types of penis enlargement surgeries.

Did you read what I said? In my opinion it's irrelevant if it damages the skin as long as it enlarges the penis it is successful. You claimed that guys can't make their penis bigger but they can. It being damaging is irrelevant as that wasn't your claim.

Here's an article on prosthesis procedures: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/au/2012/314612/

Nice bias that you don't request she has a scholarly article.

Are you even aware there are different procedures?

[udolipixie]

"And I am a guy I think I know what I want in a woman. Just cause you are shallow doesn't mean I am speak for only your preferences not every bodies" This is nonsensical. Nowhere did I state that you don't know what you want in a gal. So I'm unsure why you're telling me that you do. Nowhere did I speak for every bodies preferences. So I'm unsure why you're telling me not to.

[udolipixie]

It seems you're reacting emotionally and not reading what I type rather projecting your own bs due to some issue with me being 'shallow'. You're seemingly under the notion that I'm claiming every gal has a d*ck size preference. How does it seem in your logic 'a girl' become 'every girl'?

[blondfrog]

I agreed with her cause I already read into what she she has read into. And why would it matter if they enlarge the penis but the skin is damaged that would mean the penis wouldn't work. Trust me if there was a procedure so many guys would be doing it. There are plastic surgeries for your face but they still haven't fully mastered that have they? You yourself admitted to being shallow I don't know what more proof you want? What better proof then reading or hearing it come straight from the horses mouth?

[blondfrog]

Go ahead and ask any doctor if there is a penis enlargement surgery where there isn't serious health risk its not like a breast enlargement surgery.

[udolipixie]

How do you know what she read? Are you a mind reader or is this more assuming and projecting on your part? It seems you didn't read what she read as the d*ck would work as in being able to be inserted into the vagina it just wouldn't result in pleasure for the guy. Something that's also irrelevant in my opinion. I don't trust you considering you've repeatedly lied about my statements and ignore when called out it. There are procedures that enlarge the d*ck and likely many guys don't do it because they don't know about it, they're costly, and they're damaging often to the extent the guy doesn't feel pleasure. I doubt most guys would be doing this. I don't think you're understanding that I'm not talking about perfect surgeries with no to zero side effects. I'm talking about guys d*cks can change size which you claim they can't.

[udolipixie]

Again you're showing your lacking reading comprehension. Nowhere did I state there is a penis enlargement surgery where there isn't serious health risks so I don't need to ask a doctor as you suggested. Reread: "In my opinion it's irrelevant if it damages the skin as long as it enlarges the penis it is successful." I'm stating your claim that guys can't do anything to make their penis bigger is false. It seems your real claim is that the penis can't be enlarged with no to little risks/damages. In which case you're backpedaling and changing goal posts.

[udolipixie]

To derail a bit you stated: " I am not a shallow person as for you I am not sure I can say the same thing based off reading your questions and the generalizations you make about males." I was questioning how you got I'm shallow from my questions and generalizations about guys. None of my questions are about not only caring about a guy's looks. None of my generalizations about guys is about caring only about their looks. If anything my generalizations about guys is mostly negative statements about their personality. "You yourself admitted to being shallow I don't know what more proof you want? " Actually I stated "I am most likely a shallow person." However I'm aware you seem lacking in reading comprehension. "What better proof then reading or hearing it come straight from the horses mouth?" Again you're lacking reading comprehension as I'm not asking for proof. I'm asking how you got I'm shallow from my questions/generalizations as you claimed.

[blondfrog]

And all of these methods of surgery have serious side effects as I stated earlier and even in all the youtoube videos you can see their penis is all mutated looking and everything. The other methods include skin damage as I mentioned earlier such as scrotum defect. And some people even mentioned seeing no increase in penile length and them having to come back for more than one surgery. Thanks for showing me that article though I learned even more about the dangers of penile enlargement.

[udolipixie]

Again them having side effects is irrelevant. I'm addressing your claim that guys can't do anything about their size. Egh you actually watched the videos when I mentioned them I was talking about reference for the validity of the existence. It seems your real claim is that the penis can't be enlarged with no to little risks/damages. In which case you're backpedaling and changing goal posts. Some people mention seeing no increase and going by the articles on the procedures I've discussed I've read that some is a minority so I go with the majority. You've also seemingly learned that penile enlargement exists which shows your claim that guys can't do anything about their size is false.

[blondfrog]

No I said you can enlarge them but there would be health risks and therefore it would not be successful and really what is the point if the guy can't have pleasure wouldn't you just want a guy with a average size penis?

[udolipixie]

Don't bs what you said is right in your answer: "guys can't do anything to make their penis bigger." I addressed that claim and proved you were incorrect. That's when you backpedaled to a procedure with no serious health effects. Again in my opinion it's irrelevant if there is health risks as long as it enlarges the penis it's successful as that's the point of the surgery.

[udolipixie]

"really what is the point if the guy can't have pleasure wouldn't you just want a guy with a average size penis?" The point is the female pleasure. Perhaps you missed the question you were answering but it's about a gal having preferences for her sexual pleasure. No the guy not being able to have pleasure doesn't mean a gal would want a guy with an average size penis. That makes no sense in my opinion as her preference for size isn't about his pleasure but hers.

[blondfrog]

Well than the feeling is not mutual the feeling should be mutual other wise it wouldn't work how is it fair that he gets no pleasure while she does?

[blondfrog]

What size penis do you prefer by the way as the minimum and maximum?

[blondfrog]

Its not successful if it has serous health risks that is why I said there is nothing you can do to make the penis bigger? You can treat cancer, but there is serous health risks, but there is no cure for it doesn't mean its successful.

[nickstaa]

Lol they're just pissed off because they don't have what the girl wants.

[loveladies1]

Because they can't compete with that. Can't make a small or average penis bigger

[Minnerae]

A females gspot is only three inches inside the vagina so it really shouldn't matter the length. It's more about if they know how to use what they got and if you like bigger than that's your opinion and if they get upset about girls like bigger penises then they need to suck it up and deal with what god have them

[mr_mxy]

why should they especially with comments being made like the ones hear that tell them an average penis is useless or female orgasm and if they use foreplay and oral they are only compensating and consider less of a man.

[Gagi89]

Well I know that I will not be upset, but I can't speak for majority of guys. I think that maybe man are not just yet accustomed to the openness of 21st century women, but there are many changes happening in modern society and we are all still getting used to it. Men and women are getting more equal in all aspects of life, and that for example also means that man are less likely to cheat in comparison to before, and women more, or precisely said it's coming to a balance of equally cheating. Like I said, I don't have anything againts women liking big penises, but if we are in serious relationship and you in one moment decide to tell me that you like bigger penises and that I am (or I know) average and that I am not enough, or even worse I find you that you cheated me with other guy just because he had big penis. Well then, just maybe you need to be prepared for some serious concerns, in some cases so serious that in final result you wouldn't even need to be prepared for anything else in future.

My two golden rules in life are:

Nb.1) Law of the universe. Every action has a reaction. In nature that reaction is relatively constant, and by watching that interaction we get the laws of nature and modern science. For humans it's very different case, because you never truly know how exactly they will react, you could assume, but never truly know, and that is something to think about.

Nb.2) Never do something to others that you don't want to be done to you.

So there you have it. This is my opinion, and I would like for people to think about it.

[Anonymous]

and this is why i am forever avoiding sex and relationships, hell i may just kill myself and be done with it. im around 6 inches which i guess women just dont really care for and if i can't satisfy a women whats the fucking point. she will likely cheat in fact she probably has at least once in her life and that should be a red flag right off that bat. as for surgery are you fucking serious name a guy who was a sharp object near there dick just to get half an inch at best and thats if the surgery doesn't fuck up. so you heard it hear guys there is no point, i vote mass scucide. grab you guns, rope, sleeping pills or just jump off a building which ever you prefer.

[Anonymous]

They are upset that they dont have what women want, mostly.