Yes, this describes the majority of marriages I know. Not all, but a majority.
In some cases te woman does it on purpose, tying sex to things she wants. She promises good or wild sex if he does X it buys Y. The price always goes up over time.
In others it's more like you said ' she needs to be happy to want sex '. Do te entire relationship becomes an exercise is him trying to make her happy enough to have sex. If you look around at marriages where the guy is nice but seems to lack backbone, this is generally what's going on. This kind of behavior actually makes most women less happy so again, the conditions under which she can be happy enough to have sex always go up.
Some couples actually don't deny each other.
Some couples the woman has a higher sex drive. I've spoken to those women and the men don't seem to make vague 'if you did this more I'd want sex more' bullsh*t that wives do. Rather these men seem to act like they're normal an the wives are sex crazed freaks. Low drive wives play tht card too but it seems the only move used by low drive husbands.
If I were doing it over again I would never consider a monogamous relationship with someone Ho didn't view or part of monogamy as an -obligation- to try to meet the vast majority of their partners needs, and were delighted to be the one to have that opportunity.0 0 0 0Not all women would treat a guy this way, though I do have a buddy who's wife kept rejecting sex saying you always want it, you always want your own way. Well I told him that as she had withheld sex from him for 16 years, I reckon she was getting it her way, not him getting what he wanted,. 16 years in a sexless marriage and she believed he was the was the selfish one, in this case I don't believe he could be called selfish, not if she refused him for 16 years.
0 0 0 0Why do most men get into marriages? is it "easy access to sex?" most studies say yes. Because its the number one need of men. If you are not having sex in a "sexual relationship" then you are FRIENDS by definition. Both parties are therefore obligated to keep having sex. Yes?
Sex should be part of marriage but if one partner doesn't want it, they should tell the other early, 16 years being denied sex is unfair, yet if he cheated on her she would have been furious. Men need sex as a way of bonding as well as for pleasure. Sometimes it looks like it is harder to get sex when married than when single for some people.
Yeah. If you don't like sex and you are in relationship with someone who hates it, you essentially married someone under false pretenses and that's wrong.
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Eh I call bullsh*t to all of this... If I turn down sex because we recently had an argument, it's because I can't get in a positive mood, not because I want to use it against him. Even if my reason IS that I would "rather not do something to please my partner," what's wrong with that? People (women or men) shouldn't have sex when they seriously don't want to. I wouldn't demand that my partner have sex with me when he's upset with me over something.
The prostitute argument you made I can't understand, they're not in relationships with the people they have sex with. It's business, it's a service. Their clients aren't hurting or upsetting them, and if they do, the worker often gives their money back and asks them to leave. Anyone can refuse sex.1 0 0 1"what's wrong with that? People (women or men) shouldn't have sex when they seriously don't want to. I wouldn't demand that my partner have sex with me when he's upset with me over something." You don't understand that sex for a man is the most important thing in a relationship. Let me put it this way, is it wrong for you to "demand" a man to get up off his ass from the couch while he is just watching TV and get you some medicine to help you when you are sick? Yes.
Is it wrong for a woman to demand a man to help lift a box that is too heavy for her while he just stands there with his hands in his pockets and laughs at you? YES. He should do it because he wants to make you happy and not doing it makes him an a**hole. He should also WANT to do it because he wants to make you happy. This is the same thing.
To have the man sit there and not help the woman lift the box on the counter because he's "butt hurt" over what she said to him 2 hours ago is frankly stupid. "Nope I don't want to help you lift that box on the counter, I don't care if the dogs pee on it and ruin the stuff. I seriously don't want to." Yeah that's not right.
This never made sense to me... if I withhold sex, I don't get any either. LAME! Haha!
I won't ever withhold sex as a punishment... it's just stupid.1 0 1 0YEY! I feel the same way.
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1 2i consider withholding sex to be abuse
1 2 3 1I agree, it is
Its not abusive because women don't want to do it. Nobody should not do anything they don't feel like doing. (this is the stupid argument other women will use on you.)
my bud is in a sexless marriage. they have two kids and she's embarrassed of her body now. its f***ed up. he still provides for the family and takes care of all his duties but gets no love for his effort. that is abusive. so now he's forced to f*** women on the side simply because he doesn't want to lose his kids.
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0 0 0 0Your argument bothers the heck out of me. Men aren't sex-crazed a**holes, I'm not going to die or "feel less love" for my girlfriend if she doesn't want to have sex with me for a few days. This whole thing just seems primitive as f***.
4 1 0 2Do you always pretend to be a guy or is it just now?
My whole life apparently. I had no idea I'm a woman.
No man would make this argument. I'm sorry they wouldn't.
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