The MYTH of slut shaming and wanting respect yet refusing to earn it . . . .

[Sekrett]

Why is it girls don't want to be called sluts and demand respect, yet not willing to earn it? There is a new cool term floating about "slut shaming", somehow that is suppose to deter guys calling girls sluts and respect them. Yet I NEVER EVER see this accompanied by go out and earn that respect just like guys do. Now girls want equality and not be called sluts. Yet want guys do to all the work, while they just smile and take their panties off, and at the same time DEMAND that they be respected? But in what way is this equality? This is the exact reason why guys call promiscuous girls sluts to begin with, and the reason they don't respect them and never will. For some reason girls pretend not to comprehend very simple fact ... RESPECT IS EARNED NOT GIVEN. So why should guys do ALL the work, and yet girls reap the same rewards, and DEMAND they be respected. YES, it takes two to tango, girls should be free to enjoy their sexuality too, and be called studs too for being promiscuous. AS LONG AS THEY EARN IT. Who is stopping girls doing exactly the same thing guys do? So why is it guys do all the work, and girls just want to sleep around for doing squat and demand they be respected, and not be called sluts. You go out, ask guys out, get shot down, pay for drinks, dinner, play the game, you'll be respected. As you'll be respected no one will call you a slut, if slut doesn't exist to begin with. There be no such thing as slut shaming ... Simple!

[sa230e]

Wow, someone's bitter. You still haven't gotten over that question from two days ago, have you? I can't imagine what it's like to stew in your own rage for days because people aren't conforming to the arbitrary rules you've set for them. You have all these jaded, cynical ideas in your head born of your own negative experiences and you're shocked, SHOCKED when people don't give a sh*t. Yeah, maybe you're respect is "earned" but not every body functions that way. To expect people to jump through your hoops because you have major psychological baggage is just asinine.

Speaking of "earned" respect, did you ever think about the work women do be attractive for us? They run, they go to the gym, they count calories, they spend ridiculous sums of money on clothes and cosmetics for the privilege of having "free" sex. But that doesn't count, of course, because you said so.

The sooner you can admit to yourself that the world "slut" is just a term for a woman who sleeps with everyone except you, the better off you'll be. "Slut shaming" is what bitter men do to get back at women who deny them and you are textbook example. Sex is a perfectly normal, natural act and therefore, it's wrong to shame someone for it for that reason alone.

A girl who has casual sex, provided it was consensual, has done nothing morally wrong. She hasn't directly hurt anyone. She may have inadvertently hurt people by not choosing them but what is she going to do, f*** everybody just be fair? People accidentally get hurt all the time, it's ludicrous to demand contrition from a whole class of people because said people might have unconsciously slighted you. It happens all the time but you take it on the chin it because you're a fully mentally developed adult, not hold a grudge like a pre-pubescent boy. You want to make getting sex hard for women because it's hard for you and that's just childish.

You've got a lot of growing up to do.

[Sekrett]

"The sooner you can admit to yourself that the world "slut" is just a term for a woman who sleeps with everyone except you, the better off you'll be." >>> Dude believe me and take my word for it. Had no shortage of GFs hence I ACTUALLY know what its like to approach girls and play the game. I ACTUALLY know what it takes. I ACTUALLY talk to hear to guys who call the girls sluts. Yet you guys are the ones ranting about being "nice guys". Don't worry guess who is desperate they will happily take

[Sekrett]

*them Hey genius what makes you think guys aren't judged on looks too? If you have ever actually gone out you would know. How many girls who are 7 you actually see with guys who are 2? "To expect people to jump through your hoops because you have major psychological baggage is just asinine." Who is who? Guys in general? So all the guys have psychological issues as they're the ones calling promiscuous girls sluts? Well guys NOT immensely desperate like you. Like I said guess who settles with t

[Sekrett]

"You want to make getting sex hard for women because it's hard for you and that's just childish. You've got a lot of growing up to do." No its called equality, and if that was the case AGAIN why are these girls called sluts then. Its GROWN men calling them. Feminists who have emasculated you preach us equality. My EXACT point was its NEVER going to change, BECAUSE guys will simply not accept it. Hence onyl way to change it EARN it, in the guys eyes who call easy girls sluts. Grow some balls.

[Anonymous]

I'm not a fan of slut shaming. Men can essentially behave like sluts and are viewed differently by society than promiscuous women are. It's an unfair double standard.

That said, the below statement is 100% true about today's women. They seem to expect they deserve respect by default, without earning it like everyone else does, and when they don't get it they call it sexism and discrimination.

"For some reason girls pretend not to comprehend very simple fact ... RESPECT IS EARNED NOT GIVEN."

[jacquesvol]

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[jacquesvol]

Everyone deserves respect by default, without earning it. You too. Women too, today's or yesterday's women as well as tomorrow's.

[Sekrett]

Sexual respect precisely. ie not being called sluts, when guys have to all the work. If that is the case then why does the word slut exist to begin with and why do guys use it. Well then us guys have always been told wrong, respect is earned not given. That's been drilled into us forever.

[Opinion Owner]

jacquesvol - I must correct you here; everyone deserves to be treated with respect - that is true. Actually being respected is a different matter, and is something that must be earned. It's not a choice, just a fact of human nature. Thank you just the same for sharing your opinion.

[Michellemily]

I don't understand peoples obsession other peoples lives.

I don't agree with promiscuous behavior from guys AND girls. Its just not my point of view. But I don't go around blaming other people for their life decisions.

You might say you don't care but by calling a girl a slut you're trying to make her feel bad about herself. Telling her she is not worth your respect because she doesn't act like you want her to.

And that just won't get in my head. I honestly don't even understand what you're so angry about.

Is it because you have to approach the girls ?

What you're saying is that a girls that doesn't approach a guy is a slut ?

Or is a girl that has sex with a lot of guys a slut ?

or a girl that doesn't approach the guys she sleeps with a slut ?

you're somewhere in your early 30s and you just sound like a hurt immature little boy to me.

You know no one forces you to buy drinks. A drink doesn't make me fall for a guy or make me want to have sex with him. Not a girls fault if you don't know how to present yourself without your wallet.

I can't even answer this question without knowing what exactly your point is

[Sekrett]

- Yes the reason guy are admired and called studs because they go through all the trouble - As girls do nothing they are called sluts - if they want to be respected as guys and not called sluts ie want equality, then give the same equality to men, hence go out and ask guys out, pay for dates drinks etc, basically what girls expect guys do to - Only then you will have respect because you earned it.

[Sekrett]

- No I just find it hypocritical that girls don't want to be called sluts, yet want a free ride. Make guys do ALL the work and yet reap the same rewards, have their cake and eat it too. Just because you didn't like the points raised does not make me immature, I can say the same thing about you. You're argument was exactly the same, girls should eb able to sleep around, and should have to do nothing, and still be respected. You can re-read my question again for what guys think.

[Michellemily]

What if two individuals meet on the street or some web site and agree to have a meaningless hook up, no drinks or dinner. Who is the slut then ?

[Sekrett]

A girl, simply due to the parameters. In that exact situation there may have been no clear winner, but overall in the dating game, guys are the one doing all the work. Hence they score. So other guys will the girl a slut. Well not exactly that will depend on the number or behavior itself. Not to mention if that exact guy will respect her or not, calling her easy.

[Michellemily]

what you're talking about are genderroles. In that point I agree totaly. Genderroles suck. I ask guys out. And if I ask you to dinner then I'll pay. But that doesn't have anything to do with slut shaming. you're tired of having to approach girls and expressing you're anger in this bizarr way.

[Sekrett]

But I'm not angry, what gave you that impression. The question was in response to 3 odd questions this week on slut shaming. Its not gender roles, suppose they are. Then why isn't feminism seeking to eliminate this specific gender role. It is to do with slut shaming, like I said because girls have put no effort. Girls who sleep with a lot of guys are called easy, hence sluts. Because guys have to work for it they earned it in the eyes of other guys hence respected.

[Sekrett]

If girls would do the same they would've earned it too, hence scored. As they're not easy any more having earned it, they'll be called studs too.

[Michellemily]

You can't be serious. Feminism stands for equality for women and against sexism towards women. Women are suppose to have the same rights as guys do. Slut shaming is calling a girl a slut because of how many guys she sleeps with or how she dresses/behaves Are you saying that a girl that doesn't approach a guy and doesn't pay for dinner is a slut or am I missing out on something ?

[Sekrett]

So guys should create masculinsm? No I'm saying if girls are promiscuous they are sluts. Yes exactly for the reason guys did all the work, for guys they have earned it, they scored. All girl did was take her panties of, more she takes her panties of with different guys easier she is. But if she did exactly the same as guys and played the game, ie from initial approach to the end. She would've scored too, hence not easy, hence not slut. I thought feminism was equality for both what we are told?

[Michellemily]

Sure if you feel mistreated. Create what you want. I'm pretty sure it already exists anyway. Promiscuous people usually tend to go for the one night stands kind of thing. Someone who enjoys having sex with random people will go oh you're hot. You're coming home with me tonight. so no one has to do anything or pay for anything. 2. you're a jerk, I just realized that from this post. That's why you have to "work" for a girls attention. as much as going over and saying hi is work.

[Sekrett]

Huh but if girls feel approaching guys and saying Hi is work, are they jerks too?

[Michellemily]

Nope. Going over and saying hi is never work. Its being a nice social person. And if a girl would say " all guys do are droping their panties" then yes. She would be a jerk. A huge one

[Sekrett]

I would call it a fair comment, if girls did all the work and guys did squat. Why should guys expect any respect in return.

[Michellemily]

which work are you even talking about. what is it that you have to do that a girl spends time with you. You're pretending as if someone asked you to move moutains. My last boyfriend we walked around in the park for the first date and the second one I asked him to hang out so I paid. Wasn't work to me. Some people even enjoy the whole dating process. Stop pretending as if you need to get a nobel price or something.

[Michellemily]

and again. What you're talking about are genderroles. Girls that don't have to put in the same "effort" into the dating process as guys do are genderroles. Yes. They suck. I get your frustration. But that's not a reason to call a girl a slut and it doesn't have to do anything with slut shaming. a girls promiscous behaiviour is only annoying you becase you feel like you have to do something to get it and she doesn't.Do your reaserch please. Can't argue with someone that hasn't done their reaserch.

[xHoneyxBeex]

I love this answer, I agree with you completely! +1

[Sekrett]

"a girls promiscous behaiviour is only annoying you becase you feel like you have to do something to get it and she doesn't.Do your reaserch please." >>> Research, its called approaching girls from high school till today, seeing friends, collegues, others do the same. And you nailed it. Hence my point you can't argue, because no matter what you say guys simply aren't give them that respect. ie I'm not "specifically" saying that I wouln't, but as generally among guys overall.

[Sekrett]

The reason you mentioned yourself, again NOT just me. As generally because have to do something to get it, and they're going to continue to refuse giving that respect, unless girls have to do something to earn it too. It can't be argues because point becomes same, regardless you respect girls no matetr how many guys, in turn guys refusing to do so.

[Michellemily]

1. I mean't that you're suppose to do your research to what the diffrence between genderroles and slut shaming is, because you don't seem to know the diffrence. 2. Don't genrealize all guys, because you are seriously and geniunely the only guy over 15 that I've ever met that talks like you do. The majority of guys, very much respect women.

[Michellemily]

1. I respect everyone. No matter on their sexual preferences, how they dress, what they do in their free time. I even kind of respect your arrogant .. opinion, even if it doesn't make any sense. I'll just let you believe that every girl that sleeps with someone she didn't pay dinner for or approach is a complete slut and doesn't deserve your respect. That's obviously what you want to believe so yay go you.

[Sekrett]

"Don't genrealize all guys, because you are seriously and geniunely the only guy over 15 that I've ever met that talks like you do. The majority of guys, very much respect women. " >> What makes you think I don't respect women? Hence the same reason I asked the question. Guys don't respect women in regards to their sexual history, then suddenly don't respect women, are sexist are monsters? IMPOSSIBLE! Simple fact being if I guys did there be no such thing as sluts or slut shaming.

[Sekrett]

"what the diffrence between genderroles and slut shaming is" >> What is the difference.

[Olivia9]

You wouldn't be called a slut, you are right. You would be called desperate as a woman who bribes men to sleep with her and considered pathetic. So I guess the options for women are slut or desperate really...

Also things like the slut walk started because of men calling women sluts simply because of how they dressed as you can see in other questions. Women that don't dress in turtle necks are responsible for their own rapes and the police said this to one woman who was raped. He said something along the lines of "Well what did you expect you look like a slut!". Being called a slut has nothing to do with what a woman actually even does its perception. I mean every girl that you call or think of as a slut do you have 100% proof of all the men she has slept with and not just gossip?

[Sekrett]

"Also things like the slut walk started because of men calling women sluts simply because of how they dressed as you can see in other questions"

Hey I 100% supported slut walk, counter argued these people om forums. No there is absolutely no reason for rape, check my ans here;

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[Sekrett]

The question was specifically meant in response to questions this week. That girls who are promiscuous they shouldn't be called sluts, and guys respect them. My question was explaining why they are called sluts or easy, and why guys call them sluts. Just because you make a term like slut shaming it wouln't change anything. So if you want to change that you have to take specific steps yourselves and earn that respect. That's the only way, if that wasn't the case there eb no such thing as sluts.

[Olivia9]

It's sad how many people disagree with us. I asked a question recently and all but 2 women believed that a woman was liable and compared dressing inappropriately, to leaving a car unlocked and having it stolen, talk about objectification. Anyway, I honestly disagree with your point about earning respect when it comes to sex, men f*** women, not the other way around and being f***ed isn't a good thing think about how it is used outside of sex. Being screwed over women are the sexual playthings.

[Sekrett]

Fair enough but that's exactly how guys see them. Hence my point its not going to change ever, unless there is a balance, ie girls do the approaching too.

[Olivia9]

Like I said, when girls approach men, men think there is something wrong with them, and it reeks of desperation more so than empowerment. Sure the guy may be momentarily flattered but it also shows that the woman must be kinda hard up to be asking and buying a man drinks you must admit it. They would not gain respect but be labeled as a desperate slut.

[Sekrett]

"They would not gain respect but be labeled as a desperate slut." >> Hmm well never thought about this way. Well you can't have it both ways then. Frankly if that was true then I also admit guys shouldn't complain about it. I definitely would not consider her desperate rather flattered. I would ask that question here but honestly it seems guys here don't do a lot of going out. If you chose to ask it leave the link here ;)

[Sekrett]

Just came to me what if it was due to being this not being norm, by that I mean girls not doing the approaching generally. If girls approaching guys was norm would thst still be the case they being seen as desperate.

[Olivia9]

If it were the norm, it would not be seen AS desperate but at the same time it sets the precedent for a relationship, that she is more interested in the male than vice versa. When a person approaches another person or asks them out there is usually a reason, and so when men ask they want sex, when women ask if they wanted sex wouldn't that be slutty? If a woman asks but doesn't necessarily want sex isn't she a gold digger, if she wants a relationship she is needy? It's okay for guys to want.

[Sekrett]

Honestly can't say unless it becomes norm. I personally don't think it would turn out as such, rather women be more confident, and empowered. I don't see why she in that case be called slutty or gold digger. But that conclusion can only be achieved if it was norm, I certainly would like it to be. After all that's what equality is.

[Olivia9]

I mean when you look at how life is today, women are "liberated sexually" yet they are still considered sluts despite it being the norm to have premarital sex. I think a lot of the media has a role to play in what is normal in society as well as the sexualization of young girls. I mean when young girls are expected to grow up faster and think about sex and what pleases men it already starts that girls are seen as sluts because of their clothing and their preoccupation with boys. It's involved.

[Izzy2102]

i considered writting a real answer until I read the last pargraph. Those two things have absolutley nothing to do with each other

[Sekrett]

How so?

[Izzy2102]

well for once there is a difference between not respecting someone and disrespecting someone. It's OK not to respect people, it's not OK to disrespect them. The to earn respect you need to know something about that person and people call a girl a slut when they just see her walking by for 2 seconds. And all that has nothing to do with who asks who out. I don't even know what is going on in your head to make that connection

[Sekrett]

But you knew exactly what I meant, but just like every girl here your main problem is that how dare someone say girls should have to approach too, and yet how dare they still not respect them. From my question; "You go out, ask guys out, get shot down, pay for drinks, dinner, play the game, you'll be respected. As you'll be respected no one will call you a slut, if slut doesn't exist to begin with. There be no such thing as slut shaming ... Simple!"

[Sekrett]

My question is clear, I made clear distinction, and you understood it 100% that it is in regards to girls being called sluts when they are promiscuous. Yet like all girls didn't like the fact THAT girls should go out and approach guys too. And my point well if you refuse too then when you are promiscuous guys will keep calling you easy hence sluts. And its NEVER going to change, never unless you go out and do the approaching too. Something you clearly understood yet find it abhorrent.

[Izzy2102]

You got some things mixed up there

[xzinax2]

oh my lord...can we stop with these bullsh*t questions? ?(?_??)

[Sekrett]

In what way is it bullsh*t though.

[xzinax2]

these Q's have been on this site every damn day lately-just respect the choices of others if they don't hurt anyone.

[Sekrett]

Exactly hence my argument from guys perspective. That is the point guys never will because they're the one's who scored and earned it. Again you said the same thing we should be able to do nothing, guys do all the work, yet still respect us. My point being its never goign to happen, due to reasons mentioned above. Give men the same equality and do the same work to earn respect, or keep being called and judged as sluts. Guys are never going to give respect with having earned it.

[xzinax2]

what equality-guys can be sluts all they want,and nowadays women often pick up guys,especially sluts.

[Sekrett]

No they don't. Equality. Girls go out and ask guys out, pay for drinks and dates. That equality. Really that wasn't hard at all to get from my question. But again you simply ignored it. The same thing girls shouldn't have to do squat yet still be able to sleep with as many guys they want and be respected. How is that being equal? In what way have both put in equal amount of effort?

[xzinax2]

there are girls out there who pay for drinks-of course a lot of them don't because they're traditional-but you shaming sluts just perpetuates that.sluts like the empowerment of sexual freedom-that's why older sluts often have young ''sugar babies''. stop being a bitter assf*** and promote sluts if you want equality

[Sekrett]

Your argument makes absolutely no sense? All you've said again is ... hey you do all the freakin work, but if we sleep with 10 guys don't dare call us sluts, respect us? In what planet do you think guys are actually going to respect them? Hence the concept of slut to begin with?

[Sekrett]

Well if they want equality and respect time to become untraditional.

[xzinax2]

what? how high are you? I said the complete opposite of that.

[Sekrett]

"stop being a bitter assf*** and promote sluts if you want equality"

[xzinax2]

well yeah-if men aren't ''less'' if they sleep around,why should women be? and sluts believe they can act like men-if they want a man they often buy him a drink,or initiate conversation

[Sekrett]

"well yeah-if men aren't ''less'' if they sleep around,why should women be?" *sigh* Did you actually read the question? Say you are right some girls do buy drinks and approach. What % is it, do all promocuous girls approach and buy drinks?

[xzinax2]

i don't know what the % it is,it's hard to research dating habits-but when it comes to younger girls-a lot of the girls I know approach guys,and it's always those who are sluttier.

[Sekrett]

Hey then I'm all for it. They do the approaching same as guys and earn it. Why shouldn't they then?

[xzinax2]

well just keep promoting equality-in slutiness and all-and guys need to start EXPECTING girls to at least go dutch. it's already changing,more and more women are doing it,but guys mess it up by spoiling girls-being a gentleman is fine-but we need to stop thinking being a gentleman means paying for everything.

[Sekrett]

Hey I completely agree, guys attitudes are changing too. They want the same thing. But these gentleman you talk about seriously how many of them become successful with girls anyway. How many nice guy questions you see? I'm all for equality, and honestly I would not see them as sluts in that case, and will defend them. As long as both are equal, and put in equal work, I mean gender as a whole.

[sexyasianboi26]

Hmm, interesting. Id like to meet these girls that demand respect yet not willing to earn it. Id be so happy to give them a slap of reality; Demon scream Marine Drill Instructor style ;)

[noumenon]

What a bullsh*t rant. What's your point? Do you even know? Anyway, when you say "respect is earned not given" that's bogus. It implies that you cannot have a shred of respect for someone you know nothing about, because you would not have any basis upon which to judge how much respect they have earned. But I'm pretty sure there is such a thing as "baseline respect", i.e. a certain amount of respect you confer upon a stranger just by virue of their being a human being. This respect can then be altered in light of new information - e.g. you find out they are an idiot, and the level of respect you confer upon them is reduced - but it doesn't start out as zero.

[Sekrett]

So you're happy with guys having to do all the work, girls doing absolutely nothing. Sleep with as many guys they want, 10, 20, 30. And you would have no problem with it?

[noumenon]

I'll put it this way. Let's suppose I have a female colleague with whom I enjoy chatting at the water cooler during breaks, but about whom I know very little. By what I have said in my answer, it follows that I would have for her a certain "baseline" respect. Let us suppose I then find out that she has slept with 58 men in the past three years. I would not respect her any less. Does that answer your question?

[Sekrett]

Hey your choice man, I respect that. Just like I with majority of guys will never respect her.

[noumenon]

Trouble is, it might be that you cannot consistently claim that you respect my "choice" to respect this hypothetical woman whilst also not respecting her yourself. Why? Because the claim "I respect X" might really mean: "RATIONALLY, there are reasons to hold X in a certain degree of regard". But then your not respecting this woman becomes "RATIONALLY, I have a reason to hold this woman in lower regard than a virgin", whilst my continued respect for her becomes "RATIONALLY, I have no reason to...

[Sekrett]

Didn't get your comment tbh, but regardless I will keep holding same views as majority of men. Unless equality works both ways. You honestly think guys in real life are going to be OK with the status quo and accept girls being promiscuous?

[noumenon]

...hold this woman in lower regard than a virgin". So then your respect for my "choice" to respect her becomes "Rationally, I have reasons to hold noumenon's decision to respect this woman in high regard". But if you have such reasons, why do they not function as a reason to continue respecting the hypothetical woman? (Of course, it may just be that my analysis of respect is wrong, but it seems pretty tenable to me.)

[noumenon]

Perhaps you didn't get my comment because you didn't wait for the second half of it. The "..." kind of implied more was coming. Try reading both together and see if they make sense now.

[Sekrett]

So you're saying you don't care she is virgin or promiscuous, or how many guys she slept with, you will still respect her. Fair enough. May I ask what % of guys do you think adhere to same thinking as you, in real life I mean. Brother friends, colleagues, guys in general basically.

[noumenon]

What percentage? I haven't the faintest idea. I know there are a lot of guys - and some girls - who agree more with you than with me. It's hard for me to judge because I move in social circles with people who agree with me. Maybe you should do a simple poll on here "do you respect girls less if they sleep around yes or no"

[dwiller943]

Well because slutty girls are usually praised and asked out a lot while the prudes are pressured into sex.

[MikeK]

You are 100% correct my friend.

[Anonymous]

I would agree that feminists can not demand equality and still expect men to pay for everything

[Anonymous]

Lol you have a lot of growing up to do. Last time I checked girls don't respect man whores either.

[Sekrett]

Lol Another girl who wants her cake and eat it too. Last time I checked guys still don't have a problem getting more girls, yet guy with any options wouln't settle with a slut. Time for girls to grow up and earn that respect if they don't want to be called sluts, or quit whining about being called sluts.

[Opinion Owner]

Don't pretend like you know me on a personal level. I don't know where you live nor do I care but guys are labeled stuff too. You'd be surprised how many men really don't even care about woman's past. Apparently you haven't left middle school yet

[Sekrett]

Yet you seem pretty keen on throwing insults at me like you know me? I wouldn't be surprised as I am a man. Those men who wouldn't have a problem are also the guys those same girls didn't give them time of day. Majority of men do. Hence the term slut or slut shaming to begin with.

[Opinion Owner]

You're one of these guys that's trying to keep this supposed double standard alive no matter what. Like what you said to Michelly, if two people engage in a random hook up no matter what she's the slut. I guarentee that if women starting putting out without a hassle you would still label us sluts. Like I said you have growing up to do. Because you'd be surprised how many people really don't care about a woman's past. I see it all the time

[Sekrett]

No I see it all the time, as guys talk. And NO they wouln't. There be no double standard. Its just a pathetic excuse, girls wanting their cake and eat it too. Hey you guys do all the work, pamper us, get us drinks, we be in full control. All we do is take our panties off for doing squat and respect us. Yeah right? Have you ever seen such scenario working in any other situation?

[Sekrett]

No you girls just find the idea of doing the same work as guys abhorrent, want to keep the full control and yet not be called sluts for being easy. No you girls have growing up to do, anyone stopping you do put in same work us guys? No you will be respected if you did the same work. Again I wouldn't be surprised as those guys these same girls didn't give them time of day. Otehr guys don't want to settle with them so that's their only choice. Why would girls lie about their history then?

[Anonymous]

Well, your account about things is quite different from others.

[Anonymous]

i gree that respect should be earned. but not with everything you said.

[Anonymous]

just do what you want to do and don't care about others

[Sekrett]

Will this be same from girls too, and don't care about us when we call promiscuous girls sluts or refuse to date them? Because I genuinely didn't care at all, could care less, yet there were questions about slut shaming trying to paint us as monsters.

[Opinion Owner]

i would never care about what people say, I know who I am and I know what makes me me, my sex life is not everything that portrays me

[Anonymous]

Mostly it is women calling other women sluts, not men. Of course we should judge women by the decisions they have made, just like they should judge us for the decisions we have made. I would never make fun of a woman for being a slut. She might be a wonderful person that I could be great friends with. I just wouldn't consider having a serious relationship with her. Just like a woman wanting a serious relationship shouldn't date a player. Not wanting a relationship with someone because of their past is not slut shaming.

[jacquesvol]

I suspect that women calling other women sluts have two reasons: -To feel better themselves (similar to racists feeling 'better than' other races.) -To turn guys away from girls they perceive to be in competition with them. A bit like a politician telling that the other politician will ruin the country or raise taxes or a writer telling us that another writer can't write.

[Opinion Owner]

I think you may be right.

[MikeK]

Here here fellas!

[Anonymous]

why don't you just do your own thing and forget about it. guys odont do all the work, and well yeah some girls are easy but you can't generalize.

[Sekrett]

Then why don't girls do their thing and keep pestering us with slut shaming? I would definitely like to know in what way guys don't do all the work, and I genuinely mean it.

[Anonymous]

Are you certain "slut shaming"is supposed to deter guys calling girls sluts and respect them?"

My impression is that it's much more about picking out a girl and bullying her about her sexual reputation.

I quote from Wikipedia :

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Slut shaming (also hyphenated, as slut-shaming) is defined as the act of making a woman feel guilty or inferior for engaging in certain sexual behaviors that deviate from traditional or orthodox gender expectations, or that which may be considered to be contrary to natural or supernatural/religious law. Some examples of behaviors which women are "slut-shamed" over include: dressing in sexually provocative ways, requesting access to birth control,[1][2][3] or even for being raped or sexually assaulted.

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Slut shaming is a process in which women are attacked for their transgression of accepted codes of sexual conduct,[5] i.e. of admonishing them for behavior or desires that are more sexual than society finds acceptable.[6] Emily Bazelon says that slut shaming is "retrograde, the opposite of feminist. Calling a girl a slut warns her that there's a line: she can be sexual but not too sexual."[7]

Slut shaming is used against women by both men and women.[8] Jessica Ringrose has argued that it functions among women as a way of sublimating sexual jealousy "into a socially acceptable form of social critique of girls' sexual expression."[5] It is also used as a form of victim blaming for rape and sexual assault, e.g. by claiming the crime was caused (either in part or in full) by the woman wearing revealing clothing or previously acting in a forward, sexual manner before not consenting to sex.[4]

Read it completely here: link

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That's not exactly what you're depicting, isn't it?

[Sekrett]

Nope, not at all. I'm interpreting as well pretty much in my question.

[Opinion Owner]

since most people would rather women be MORE sexually active than less, slut shaming is counterproductive to the aims of most men and quite a few ladies. link

[Sekrett]

Those guys will never get laid to begin with. Do sluts actually sleep with those guys until its time to settle? So nothing will change for those guys. And like I said even if you are 100% correct, guys will simply never accept it. As they have to put in all the work. Girls still reap the same rewards but do nothing, hence guys will continue calling them sluts.

[Opinion Owner]

Guys whose only aim is to get laid and complain about a low ROI (return on investment) seem in fact to be looking for a less expensive escort. A promiscue girl maybe? That brings me to a definition 'slut': -If said by a guy= "a girl who has sex with other guys but not with me." -If said by a girl= "a girl who has more sex than the girl speaking has."

[Sekrett]

"If said by a guy= "a girl who has sex with other guys but not with me."" If I may ask do you actually go out bars, clubs wherever, hang with guys etc. Been to college? Nooo guys who get laid a lot call promiscuous girls sluts too. Take for example comment like, dude she's easy don't take much to take her panties of. Go talk to her.

[Opinion Owner]

Actually, I have a masters degree and a postgraduate. Thus yes, I went to college etc too. Some girls were less difficult to convince than others, indeed. So what? I don't call them names. Some guys f*** who they can with success. I don't start stud shaming because of that.

[Opinion Owner]

The first girl I'm thinking about immediately is a judge now. (I knew her family, which was poor) She got her Law degree and the job by working hard (and waiting, of course). I wouldn't think of calling her names.