"You can't steal a man who doesn't want to be stolen"--it's likely that the relationship was already weak and the married man and his wife were bound...
"You can't steal a man who doesn't want to be stolen"--it's likely that the relationship was already weak and the married man and his wife were bound to divorce at some point over something, one way or another.
And the other woman owes the wife nothing. She owes the marriage nothing. He made the commitment to his wife therefore he should honor those vows and promises to remain loyal, correct?
Even then, marriage vows mention nothing about remaining faithful or about cheating.
And the women sleeping with the married men do not always want marriage for themselves.
Do you think this is correct?
*By the way, I'm not sleeping with a married man or advocating it. I'm just addressing another side of the story
I'd blame the guy in the marriage more than I'd blame the single woman, the guy has made the commitment and has still decided to cheat... The single woman has made no such commitment, I mean I can understand someone single being happy to go with anyone they're attracted to. It's different when you say you're committed and you just aren't. Of course it's not like both parties are innocent, but whatever.
You can't make blanket statements about something like this, because it really depends on the person and the situation.
There are men who are selfish and self-centered, who will cheat if they think they can get away with it, and don't really think about their spouse or what it will do to them. These guys often intentionally seek out mistresses.
There are also men who intend to be faithful, but might be going through a rough patch in an otherwise good marriage, and then the offer of sex from a hot woman, coupled with their mild depression from their existing relationship issues, might get the better of them in that moment of weakness. They often regret it, and many even eventually admit their affair to their wives, because the guilt eats them up.
There are also men who would simply never cheat, period.
While I agree that the "other woman" is not the person who made the commitment to the marriage, it's still morally reprehensible to sleep with a married man. I don't fault her if she was not aware that he was married (this usually means he was lying about it, and taking steps to conceal the marriage from her), but if she KNOWS, and does it anyway, that's wrong.
Everything I wrote above would also apply if the genders were reversed, BTW.
I don't 100% agree with the line 'you can't steal someone who doesn't want to be stolen'. People are impacted by those around them.
My views on this:
- Marriage is not just a ceremony between a man and woman (or here in Canuckistan, between two adults ...for now ...) It requires witnesses etc. because it is a public declaration. So to some extent there is a public request to support the marriage. So there is some obligation being put on others to respect it.
- How far does that go? I think actively pursuing or trying to talk a married person into cheating is wrong. You can let them know you're interested. But if you're telling them its okay, trying to work them up to it, trying to manipulate them and get between them and their partner, you're not respecting the request they made publicly to help support their marriage.
- If they actively want to cheat with you, subject to the above, I think that's on them primarily.
- Its up to you to decide if you are comfortable with doing this secretly.
all your "adages" place eschew all responsibility for a person behaving with any moral compass.
essentially it's like me saying. stealing isn't bad, it's the onus of the holder to protect their belongings. if I can steal from them there is nothing wrong with me.
a person, you're right doesn't, necessarily owe anyone anything. but if the believe at all in virtue, morals, values, etc and aren't completely anti-social then they should believe that they do have some responsibility to behave a certain way in society
The other woman owes the wife respect and the marriage respect.
If he is married he did not make a commitment to his wife, he made it to God to forsake all others.
Sleeping with a married person is called adultery and in some countries is punishable by death in the USA only the military punish under violation of Article 34, I believe and foreigners entering the USA must comply with Moral Turpitude.
Just because you have no respect for yourself and others, does mean it is not a punishable offence. You think like a poor person where there are no rules.
No one owes anybody anything, I suppose. But where does this stop? If I see a guy make a mistake at work, do I stop him so he doesn't get in trouble or lose his job? Why, I don't owe him anything.
I make a lot of money ( which is true ), but why should I help other people? I don't owe them anything. After all, I may be helping the same people who would screw me over. Actually, I do believe this and as I've grown older, I've eliminated all the donations I made to charities and stopped helping other people. Other people are just out for themselves, so why shouldn't I be? People are going to try and screw me over, so why should I give them the ammunition?
1. No, usually this isn't the case. People generally cheat when things are indeed in rough patches but that doesn't mean that it was eventual nor does it mean that the relationship was weak. Generally it's more of a moment of weakness unless it's prolonged and then it's escapism which is a totally different animal.
2. Actually all traditional marriage vows explicitly speak of faithfulness. Most of them even use the word "faithful" in some form or fashion. That entire concept fell away on it's own.
Even if the marriage foundation is not as strong as before, as long as the person is married, hands off. regardless of how charming he can be , one shouldn't come in between. it is selfish for one to hurt another marriage.