Why are so many men against abortion?

[Anonymous]

I know there defenders for both sides of both genders but in general I noticed that men are a lot less likley to support abortions. In this class I'm taking in college we recently discussed it. Basically our professor described a few senarios and asked everyone who thinks an abortion is OK or appropriate to stand up a) continuing the pregnancy would impose a risk to the mother - that was only one pretty much everyone stood up b) a young woman, who just started college, doesn't know who the father is and wants an abortion because she wants to finish her education first - almost all girls stood up and almost no guys c) A woman find out she's 2 months pregnant but wants an abortion because she already paid for an exepnsive ski vacation - no one got up d) A woman who is 5 months pregnant is left by her husband and doesn't want to raise the baby alone - about half of the girls stood up, only a handfull of guys e) a woman gets pregnant after being raped - all the girls stood up and about half of the guys f) a couple find out they're expecting, but have no money - about 70% of the girls stood up and 40% of guys g) a couples unborns child is predicted to have a disability - roughly 50% on both sides I know that survey isn't necessarily representative but it confirms an observation I've made anyways. Why is that? I mean I know and somewhat can relate to the reasons why some people are against it, but why are men as a group so much less likley to support an abortion? Is it just a lack of campassion? Particulary for b,d and e

[Theguyoverthere]

A lot of it depends on their stance of what "murder" is. There's a ton of debate that even goes into how many months of pregnancy has gone by until it is consider a human form of life.

The other thing is that men don't even get much of a say on the abortion anyway so their opinions aren't really considered at all because of the "this is my body" statement. This is also only one classroom. You can have totally different results from class to class.

Men are already concerned with women in general when it comes to pregnancy anyway. Your professor shoulda added this scenario into the question link

[Asker]

I think that senario is kind more of a child support issue than an abortion issue.

[Anonymous]

because they're not the ones who get pregnant.

it's been said if men got pregnant, abortion would never be illegal.

[pickledxtofu]

They have little to not choice if THEY want to keep the child.

Ironically, if the woman wants to keep the child and they (the men) do not want to be father or have a child, they can still be forced to pay child support for a child they didn't want in the first place.

There are too many selfish men and women out there who lay on their backs or f*** anything that moves without using multiple forms of this great concept called birth control.

[Asker]

Ya but the majority of abortions are unpalnned pregnancies, I'd say that most potential fathers don't want to be fathers. So ya there's a chance she'll keep it, but why would you argue for abortion to be illegal, eliminating the only chance that she may not keep it

[pickledxtofu]

Because there are more women who want to keep it than who want to get rid of it. There are more men who end up being fathers they don't want to be And perhaps women should act responsibly by taking birth control and not opening up their legs to just anyone and then there wouldn't be so many unplanned pregnancies?

[ArabianPwincess197]

They're ready to own up to their responsibility. Abortion is basically murder of an innocent life that has yet to come to the world. It is living inside a body and expects its mother to take care of him/her. She or he see the world through the mother's eyes which is why a lot of pregnant women are recommended to be emotionally happy because it keeps their child happy

[Anonymous]

Wow ... that's a really personal question to ask to display in public. I'd be ticked at my prof.

That being said, I don't believe in abortion personally. I just don't know if it's my right to tell other people what to do.

[Phoenix1991]

Many people have different views on where life starts and when it should be ended. Whether its religious reasons or moral reasons, Everyone has their own opinion.

I personally don't think I have a saying in what a woman can do with her own body, so in a way, I'm pro choice.

Doesn't mean I don't value life, I love children but not in the creepy way , but I enjoy playing with toys, running around with them on the playground, etc. I just don't think its my right to call how someone choose to live their life.

[Vyxzuw]

Actually, according to various polls, some say that men are more in favor of abortion than women. (And others say the other way around.)

According to some gallup polls, the views are about the same.

The reasons for why someone can be in favor or against abortion will of course vary.

There are some men that are in favor of abortion so that they can convince the woman to have an abortion so they don't have to deal the ramifications of the pregnancy, for instance. They're the guys that will be ever so helpful and offer to pay for it, and drive the girl to the clinic and will stand by until the the pregnancy is terminated...and then split at the next opportunity.

[parkway]

No college class is a good sample, the life experiences are skewed.

Abortion to some is life. If a girl is playing with the boys and not knowing the father, is it OK to just kill a kid? When is it OK to kill a kid or the only potential for a unique kid?

[yaddayaddayadda02]

B, in particular sounds very selfish. Men are probably against it because they have so little say in it.

[Asker]

that's what others have said, but I don't really get that notion. And even in situations where they wouldn't get into like e or where they out of the picture like b, they are against it

[yaddayaddayadda02]

You don't get that notion? as pickledxtofu said, a man can want a baby that is half his biologically, and the woman can get an abortion - even without mentioning it to him. A man can NOT want a baby, but the woman has it and he's on the hook to pay for it. Hell, even when I got a vasectomy, my wife had to sign a consent form. Where's that logic?

[Asker]

I get they are upset bout that, I don't get how making abortion illegal is gonna make it any better? Just that women won't have any rights either. I think in my age group, it's safe to assume that most people don't want kids yet. Sure there is a chance she will keep the kid but without abortion that's the only option

[yaddayaddayadda02]

I'm not sure I advocate outlawing abortion, either. That being said. You don't HAVE to have sex if you want to make sure 100% you don't want a baby. I guess that's the issue. We have an attitude in our society that we are entitled to do whatever we want, and when an inconvenient consequence (pregnancy) happens, we should just be able to hop on down to the clinic and get that taken care of.

[dx021]

guys are tired of girls not wanting to be held accountable for their actions

[Anonymous]

I think men are aware of the double standard. If a woman doesn't want her child, she can abort it. If a man doesn't want his child, he still has to pay for it and certainly can't abort it.

If not paying child support was an option, I think more men would support abortion. I think men feel, "If I don't get a choice, why should the woman get a choice? After all, women always complain about inequality".

Personally I support abortion and the right not to pay child support.

[Asker]

I don't see how being against abortion makes it any better though. I think abortion and child support are very different things though, I wouldn't mix those two, and I don't really understand why people do

[Opinion Owner]

It's the same principle, though. If a man should 'step up and take responsibibility' for the consequences of his actions (as is often said), why shouldn't the woman also 'step up and take responsibility' for her actions? It's very easy for a woman to be for compulsory child support when she knows that it's almost totally unlikely that she will ever be made to pay it.

[Opinion Owner]

And you're right: opposing abortion doesn't make the child-support situation better, but the point is, men are tired of women demanding equality when it suits them and demanding inequality (usually euphemistically labelled as 'choice') when that suits them. There are only two consistent positions: support the right of abortion and the right not to pay child-support, or oppose abortion and demand obligatory child-support. I choose the former, because that's what individual rights require.

[Asker]

The major difference is the child though. In the case of abortion, that child is gone, which arguably questionable. When it comes to child support the kid is already there and needs to be taken care of. Very few people can support a kid alone on one income. It will be either the father paying or the tax payer and the law decided that it should be the father

[Opinion Owner]

But, at what point did the father agree to have the baby and pay for it? If you're saying sex is a contract to raise any child that may result from the act, then abortion should be illegal.

[Opinion Owner]

And many people support a child on one income. You could do it on a minimum-wage job pretty easily, as long as you exercise some self-discipline.

[Anonymous]

Lack of compassion? That's a very strange way of viewing things. Someone without compassion would be relatively indifferent (or perhaps even pro-abortion if they suspected a draw on government funds.). What's at question here is more likely a relative balancing of compassion for the mother vs the child.

Women may simply be more biased to the mothers viewpoint. Whether men are biased away from the mother or are simply unbiased is a question.

[Anonymous]

I can understand why you might ask about the lack of compassion for E, but b and d? You've got to be kidding. They wouldn't deserve compassion on those two, especially with b. Take some responsibility.

[Asker]

well maybe compassion is the wrong word. Maybe sympathy is better. I mean for b, they're all in college and most of them are having hook ups. Can't they imagine what it's like to be in the situation if they could get pregnant? And for d if a couple decide to have a child and then split up during the pregnancy women will usually have to most with it, put back their career... making life harder on every level is it so absurd she doesn't want that

[Opinion Owner]

To ask for sympathy for B is absurd.

[Asker]

why?

[Opinion Owner]

They deserve none. They knew what they are doing. That's a consequence of opening your legs.

[Asker]

ok so you also think it's only fair that men who get a girl pregnant have to pay child support even if they don't want the kid?

[Opinion Owner]

Not at all. Women have the option to get an abortion no matter what the circumstances of them getting pregnant are, so the same should be afforded to men. However, if the guy is just pounding every girl he can get his hands on and gets one of them pregnant, I don't feel sorry for him either. There are only some instances where I could develop a certain amount of sympathy for the guy depending on the level he's been f***ed by the court.

[Asker]

well the underlying question was kind of, should it be illegal? And appearently most guys think it should. They said it's not OK for her to have an abortion, so she doesn't have a choice, neither should he

[Opinion Owner]

Was that the underlying question? Because in your class, it was which situations is it appropriate to get an abortion? Those are two separate things. As of now, abortion is completely legal, and it's not going to change. So why shouldn't guys have a choice? I know most girls think they shouldn't. That's a rhetorical question by the way.

[Anonymous]

I got the impression that men were more pro abortion than women. Most western societies are void of responsibility, abortion is just one more thing that helps people to be immature