Why Male Privilege is a Fantasy

[maresboyfriend]

The bible claims that Moses climbed a mountain to receive the moral code etched in the miracle of clay by the divine hand itself for all of humanity. The Karam claims that Mohamed flew to heaven upon the winged magical horse Allah. And the feminists claim that the whole world is a man's world, for which no woman can succeed in and can only suffer at the hands of the patriarchy. Three strong statements with one thing in common...they're all bullshit.

First, it hasn't been a mans world since the 70s. Rape was legal up until the early 20th century, but by the late 30s, rape wasn't legal anywhere save for the middle east, not even in Nazi Germany. But now a man will go the jail for so much as looking rapey, or even just being accused without evidence.

And what about the workforce? In most situations a woman will be hired simply for being a woman, regardless of education, qualifications[or lack thereof] or even stupidity. A man could have a very good eduction, a lot of qualifications, and still only have a slim chance of landing that job. For men, if all our hard work was any more useless, it'd be tits on a bull. But a vagina is a like a universal VIP badge.

And what about in marriage? In a divorce case, a woman will almost always win, and they end up having shopping sprees, laughing all the way to the bank, while the men are broke, depressed and suicidal. It is for this reason that prenuptial agreements were invented, else marriage would be a thing of the past by now.

And don't even get me started about the dating scenes? What effort must women make besides dress up? What must they pay for, besides nothing? How much of the driving must women do besides none? And what do they get out of it besides everything? The dating world is a money pit for men, and a money making opportunity for women.

So how the hell is it a man's world?

[BuchitaBuchys]

The getting hired for simply being female is not true. @Fatthoms77 has the lowest standards when promoting mytakes I swear...

"How the hell is it a man's world?" Look worldwide where women are more likely to be illiterate than men. Sure, even men are denied education, but girls education is more likely to be sacrificed in impoverished societies than boys.
There are much more male CEOs here in the states and in positions of power like politicians etc than women. Sure, we have to take into account that maybe they're not as qualified, but when the number is like 5% women and 95% male, you have to admit there's a bias.

[BuchitaBuchys]

Sure, there are fields with female bias like teaching and nursing, but even those you will see that the men will be more likely to promoted to like principal. It cannot be that women simply aren't qualified, there are biases and stereotypes against women, just like there are against men (like that theyre not compassionate or caring enough to teach or be nurses, or that they are pedos and shouldn't teach young kids or be nannies, babysitters etc).
Ignoring or denying privileges doesn't make them go away, and having privilege doesn't necessarily make you a bad person.

[Words_and_Wisdom]

"Male Privilege" is just an excuse for women who fail at life.

[BuchitaBuchys]

Why are men so afraid to admit that sometimes they do have advantages? It doesn't make you a bad person, nor does it make men bad people.

Oh, but let me guess, you think that female privilege is true?

[Words_and_Wisdom]

@BuchitaBuchys Here's the thing. We each have our own advantages and disadvantages. Women for example have a huge advantage when it comes to the dating scene and when they need empathy. Do you deny the fact that women have much more access to relationships and sex than men? Or how about when men have issues or are oppressed individually by other groups or individuals, that they generally receive less social support?

You can't keep crying out 'male privilege' when you have your own privileges.
If it were my decision I would happily be a female in todays culture.

[BuchitaBuchys]

I never said that women dont have privilege. We do. But look worldwide, men have it much better.

I can keep crying male privilege since Im more career oriented than relationship oriented. The "privilege" I have in relationships does not benefit me since I want a better job, not a boyfriend.
Id rather be a man in more societies than a woman. Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Latin America, China, many Asian countries, etc. Men, by far, have it better worldwide

[Thisperson98]

@BuchitaBuchys do you live in those countries? I doubt it, so how does it affect you?

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Thisperson98 because you can take immigrants from their countries, but their values stay the same.

And it doesn't affect me, but I'm like 99% certain most of y'all insecure men have never had a woman screw you in a divorce, paternity fraud, gold dig off you, yet there y'all are, bitching about something you've never experienced.

Also, considering that like 90% of high paying jobs are taken by men, yes, I am being affected.

[Thisperson98]

@BuchitaBuchys women normally choose lower paying jobs. It is not forces onto them.
So how do the values they have here affect us?

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Thisperson98 no, I've taken that into consideration too. Even in female dominated fields, like nursing and teaching, men are more likely to get promoted and become like principals and superintendents. So no, it's not just "choosing a low paying job", there's biases against female leaders and you know it. Stop trying to deny it, and even with all such variables accounted for, there's an inexplicable gap that women make $.96 to every dollar a man makes. No one knows why, it's not as big as $.70 to a dollar like feminist lies, but there's still about $.04 to the dollar that's not because of career, experience, education etc etc. And $.04 to the dollar adds up, that's $9,600 to your $10,000.

[Words_and_Wisdom]

@BuchitaBuchys There's no evidence to any sort of pay gap between men and women, for the same quality of work and same position on an hourly basis. The only reason why men are more likely to earn more over the grand scheme of things is because they negotiate for more and they work more.

Men hustle in the workplace, while you expect shit to just be handed to you. Even if women were actually paid less than men, women would be hired at a much MUCH higher rate than men!

[BuchitaBuchys]

There is evidence, the gap isn't nonexistent, it's just not as big as some people think.

Um, excuse me? I'm pretty sure I've worked more than you in my life. I've been working since I was 12, I've never waited for anything to be handed to me. So take your shit and stuff it back up your ass where it belongs.

And again, you still are trying to deny that men are more likely to be put into positions of power like managers etc than women. There are more opportunities for advancement for men than women. Even in FEMALE DOMINATED fields like nursing and teaching

[Bobbyhill1]

@BuchitaBuchys the age gap is a myth. How will you call someone ignorant yet spew such a lie that can be easily disproved. First of all, women take more time off than men on average. Men put their blood, sweat and tears into their work and although it effects them in the long run negatively, they will get a raise over the person is not so dedicated. second, 90% of high paying jobs are taken by men because women on average, do not think its ideal to become things like a lawyer, construction worker, oil rig worker, scientist, astronaut, etc.. instead of blaming men and the ''oppression'' you should focus more on the behavior. The reason why there seems to be women are not taking high paying jobs is because of gender roles that still exist. Its not ideal to them. Ask a girl what she wants to be when she grows up, it will be entirely different than what a boy wants most of the time.

[Bobbyhill1]

@BuchitaBuchys and you have privilege for the illusion of oppression. You are more likely to get hired from affirmative action, and on record white women have benefited from affirmative action more than ANY group. Colleges are more willing to accept females. You have domestic abuse programs even though women are equal to spouse abuse and dominate child abuse cases, women have homeless programs, drugs and overall MORE support than a male could ever have. Female privilege is a real thing, in western society, male privilege is a excuse as the OP said.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Bobbyhill1 I didn't deny that women have privilege. But y'all have a serious delusion if you think men don't have privilege too.

[Bobbyhill1]

@BuchitaBuchys you said ''men have it much better'' well the grass is always greener on the other side, until you come see how much crap men put up with on a daily basis. We are labeled as pigs everywhere we go, our sexuality is demonized and anything associated with our bodies is gross which is why things like cutting new born male babies is somehow fine. I saw that womens march yesterday. Somehow women get all the coverage fighting non-existent problems while bashing males on NATIONAL TV! oh thats not the first time though! That national late night show called conan? made a entire skit of why men should have their genitals cut! that show shameless? had a scene where a male got cut because a women said it ''looks weird'', that movie called bad moms? made fun of uncut penises for three minutes straight! the privilege women must have to go on tv, bash an entire gender and not be questioned by the majority is outstanding.

[Bobbyhill1]

and throughout magazines, and other forms of press the sexist crap never seems to end. This makes its way into reality and effects men as a whole. NOBODY talks about it. We dont get the simplest form of coverage because we are not seen as important. Its more important to talk about a mythical wage gap that isn't real.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Bobbyhill1 name at least 10 well known women scientists. Name at least one woman president, name at least 30% of CEOs in fortune 500 companies. And that lady who was running things behind closed doors as her husband was dying doesn't count as she wasn't elected to position.
The day you can list all of these, and this is not even "equal", then I'll somewhat take this "men don't have it better" statement seriously.

Y'all act like not being able to tell a girl "nice tits baby" is comparable inequality to having less than 50% of people in power (like government positions), or less than 10% of CEOs in fortune 500 companies (um, Hello, money is power). Or even being well known aka recognition and appreciation like male scientists, we're not the equal.
So in the US, the day you can tell me all that, then I'll take your statement more seriously.

And yes, I recognize that there are some privileges that women have, but I'd rather make my own money and be respected than be able to catcall.

[Bobbyhill1]

@BuchitaBuchys I can easily name 10 scientists, CEOS etc. The thing is, nobody is holding you back or oppressing you. In fact, its yourself. Just like its taught for a male not to be a teacher as the majority of them are female, its not culturally taught to have a female be a doctor, lawyer etc.

''And that lady who was running things behind closed doors as her husband was dying doesn't count as she wasn't elected to position.''

naming one event to make a claim of a oppression nation wide? that makes no sense. what you fail to realize is, only a small minority of men actually have some form of power. The rest, are at an extreme disadvantage. you can get hired off of affirmative action alone and as a matter of fact, the ones who benefited the most from that was white women. women can also get sent to college with less on their resume. dont feed me that crap.

[Bobbyhill1]

@BuchitaBuchys "nice tits baby"''

you are digging in a gold mind. Who the hell said that was okay? at any chance someone gets they get to call someone sexist. you get media coverage of BASHING MALES. If it was the other way around, it would not be accepted. Girls also objectify guys too within media. you are condescending.

''male scientists''

women are not taught to become scientists. Instead of blaming ''the man'' you should (which is already happening) get rid of roles of each gender. why isn't there a women president? look at the majority of the people who run? we dont look at a female and say ''no you can't become prez'' its just that a lot of females dont think its ideal as they'd rather be a vet, social worker or teacher. You know thats the truth, and you know there are a lot of women who dont work the same hours as a male. Men work more hours, and are 99% more likely to die from labor because they work more efficiently in other forces. THATS the truth. w

[Bobbyhill1]

@BuchitaBuchys people dont give special privilege just because you are a female. in this day and age, you work and you get the fruit of your labor and the harsh truth is men just work more hours making them more likely for raises and high positions. We dont just give these things up just because someone is crying oppression without actually considering these factors.

[Bobbyhill1]

@BuchitaBuchys and women aren't the only ones who get cat called in fact, I have and so have many men been harassed but the thing is, you aren't seen as a creep for it. A guy can give the wrong look and be labeled a thousand words.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Bobbyhill1 let me know when a woman goes crazy for being rejected and stabs a man to death or even shoots up a bunch of people while calling herself "the supreme lady" and then you can complain about being seen as a creep.

And that's social inequality
How about slut shaming. How about being labeled crazy every time we get upset. Or told we must be menstruating. How about the fact that men, especially on this site, love to say women are irrational? If I make a mistake it reflects badly on all women, but if you do, it's just a simple personal mistake on your behalf.

[Bobbyhill1]

@BuchitaBuchys'' let me know when a woman goes crazy for being rejected and stabs a man to death or even shoots up a bunch of people while calling herself "the supreme lady" and then you can complain about being seen as a creep.''

what does this even mean? women go crazy ALL THE TIME. people are crazy no matter the gender. see your problem here isn't about oppression, it is just pointing fingers and finding others to blame. There are countless times when a women has done some horrible things for not getting her way, yet in your eyes this somehow doesn't happen because you are to BIASED to see it. you get slut shamed? men get called gay all the time. Whats your point? you get called crazy? men get called creeps. whats your point? you want to know the honest truth? women in society, are taught to speak off emotions. sometimes this is great, but you need to sit down and cool off before talking about something like this. More recently, men are acting this way too but not as common.

[Bobbyhill1]

@BuchitaBuchys and that is what makes people believe many are irrational because instead of treating you like males, we baby you. Ever heard the phrases ''a women is always right'' or ''daddies little princess'' this is something that is culturally accepted, and it has done damage.

[BuchitaBuchys]

@Bobbyhill1 men label women as crazy all the time, it is the generic cliche insult that isn't taken seriously.

[John_Doesnt]

Men have always been privileged around the world. That has never not been true and you're willfully ignorant to think that.
The bible and Koran that you quote are all based on sexist ideas that a man can do things a woman can't. Any Christian or Muslim-based society has extreme male privilege. Same goes for a Jewish society.

[AleDeEurope]

Male privilege isn't real in the West, only bitter losers think that way. They think their failure is because of their gender, and not because they're losers.
If they wanna see male privilege, take them to Saudi Arabia, now that's male privilege.

[Negrodamuss]

If we're talking worldwide, men definitely have the upper leg. Women are only now starting to catch up with men after being held down for so long

[BuchitaBuchys]

Get ready to be attacked, you know men on here cannot admit that men worldwide have it better. Or that white people tend to have it better worldwide too.

Head in the sand people are coming your way.

[Negrodamuss]

@BuchitaBuchys lol, yeah I'm kinda use to them already. Nowadays I don't bother reading/replying :)

[BronzedAdonis]

uhhh male privilege is very real the only fantasy is you denying that being a man doesn't afford you some perks in society

[BronzedAdonis]

here's proof OP

everydayfeminism.com/.../

[Thisperson98]

You use everyday feminism to prove a point? Next time I will link infowars.