Isabel of Castile: The Perfect Queen (Part 1)

[KnightCross]

Introduction

The reasons of me writing this MyTake is because a long time ago @OlderAndWiser questioned the rule of Spain under the Catholic Monarchs at the age of discovery. After he accused Fernando and Isabel of Castile of adjectives that usually leftists likes to use, I decided to write a MyTake to clarify that part of History and end this protestant bigotry against the Catholic Monarchs, specifically against Isabel, whom I discovered many interesting stories about her in my quick google research.

So here below it's my translated version of the MyTake I have written before (here in Spanish):

https://www.girlsaskguys.com/social-relationships/a36921-isabel-of-castilla-the-perfect-woman-for-a-powerful-man-to-marry

Isabel of Castile, the Catholic Monarch Queen

Portraited as a "demon" by some and "sanctified" by others, it's certain that the Catholic Queen was a queen that ruled Spain with iron fist and based her life in intelligence, culture and an fiery passionate faith.Her life dedicated mainly for the prayers and the reading of pious books ended in 1461, when she and her brother were moved to Segovia.

Works and Deeds

Her faith took her to conquer the last Moors(North African Muslims) reduct in the Iberian lands and completing the Reconquista. That is she made sure that the Iberian lands would not be Muslim anymore and she was not worried of being politically correct. She just casted the Muslims out of the Europe, and altogether some Jews in order to preserve Europe Christian. That means: no additional tax like jizya anymore, freedom to preach Christianity to all land, freedom to exercise your religion without fear, Christians are not 2nd class citizens anymore, no poligamy, etc.

Her intuition favored to Cristóbal Colón(Cristopher Columbus) ,an Italian explorer and navigator, who received her unconditional support to his enterprises. Thanks to her belief on that "crazy" Italian visionary we now have all the Americas colonized by a superior and civilized culture. The Republic of Genoa didn't believe in him, other Italian cities didn't believe in him too. But Isabel has a great vision and an open minded and saw how good that would be for Spain and for the Catholic Church in the whole. That basically have put the Spain as the pioneer in the Age of Discovery, making it the hugest Empire all over the world at that time, passing through India until East Asia like the Philippines.

Moral of Story

Even if you are an atheist, be happy with her, Europe could not be the way it is today.

Even if you are not Spanish(as I'm not) be happy with her, the Americas could not be the way it is today.

Even if you are a protestant, be happy with her, Western world could have already been Islamised 500 years ago.

#MakeEuropeChristianAgain

[menina]

"we now have all the Americas colonized by a superior and civilized culture. " - Colonized by a superior and civilized culture, do you mean by killing Native Americans, destroying their land and their culture?

Plus, no culture is superior. And "superior culture" sounds like something a Nazi would say (NOT saying you're one, tough).

"Even if you are not Spanish (as I'm not) be happy with her, the Americas could not be the way it is today." - I'm not Spanish. And I don't see a reason to be happy with poverty, violence, starvation, drugs and so many other problems that South and Central American countries have.

[KnightCross]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1jIWUKJDl5A

[menina]

I've listen to your reply and I strongly disagree with you. So, let's agree to disagree.
You'll never get my point.

[OlderAndWiser]

I vaguely recall a discussion on this subject and I believe I said that her perfection was a bit of hyperbole, as she was known for her religious intolerance and lack of mercy.

[DonkeyRick69]

It's a goodtake though I don't agree. Truth is all monarchs should be done in like the Russians and French did.
Isabel of Castile grandaughter Queem Mary was very much like her, full of religious zeal. Mary was a monster, thats why she is forever known as Bloody Mary.

[SteppingOnRoses]

I think Queen Saint Elizabeth of Portugal can be a better choice ;)

Name in portuguese: Isabel

[SteppingOnRoses]

by the way... Im Christian and my boyfriend is Muslim

so dont badmouth muslims XD lol. they are people too.

[SteppingOnRoses]

and by the way the pioneers in the Discoveries were the Portuguese people... -___-

[KnightCross]

are u Portuguese btw? but u need to confess Spain dominated the seas at that age

[SteppingOnRoses]

im not saying they might now have governated the seas at a time

but Portugal did too and did it 1st lol

Even Christopher Colombus was a portuguese sailor

[SteppingOnRoses]

might not i meant

[KnightCross]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0h85xwSp9rB

[SteppingOnRoses]

sorry but i can't listen to sound now :/

not alone

[KnightCross]

im speaking very low to not wake up other people

[lord_chilled]

Dont agree with everything you said (i. e europeans invading and commiting genocide against natives isn't exactly good.

But yeah of she played a part in the Reconquista, then hail her 😊

[KnightCross]

Genocide maybe only in the USA, where a "good indian is as dead indian"

[lord_chilled]

Pretty sure the British and french commited pseudo-genocides in other places, but yeah usa was the worst.

[KnightCross]

at a very very lesser degree at Spanish colonies, but we cannot say it was an oppressive white genocide, since most of the Amerindians were killing among themselves before the European's arrival, and after it, some tribes allied to the Europeans whereas others fought against (like the Incas at Peru, and they were destroyed)
Same happened to Portuguese and French colonies in the Americas, where civilization overspread toward the indians because they have sort of integrated to it, since it was a superior civilization with superior technology etc, plus European diseases killed them too

[lord_chilled]

It was an oppressive white genocide, europeans used the same tactic they always used, they use existing conflicts among natives and turn them on each other, and you are either with them or you are against them.
With them means losing your culture to theirs eventually.
Same thing British colonies did all over the world, divide and conquer.
European colonialists werent good guys, they were just as power and wealth-hungry as any other warlords.

And in latin america, eventually, the native population and europeans mixed and we have the current latin American mixed people we see. But in usa, Canada and north america they didn't integrate much and it was mostly a complete takeover

[KnightCross]

i think u should be happy their culture were overtaken by European culture. they were pretty barbaric and did some children sacrifices.

[KnightCross]

also some indians, like the Aztec Juan Diego in Mexico freely opted for Christianity then his older pagan animistic religion. It's naive to think Europeans were the bad guys, some were bad, others were not, like the missionaires who actually defended indians from explotaition

[lord_chilled]

Yeah, okay you seem pretty biased towards european christians. Nope, european conquerors were just a bunch of greedy bastards . Nothing to be proud of

[Bezbozhnikustanka]

If the Spaniards hadn't invaded the Americas the Dutch, the British, the French or the Italians would've, it was inevitable a bunch of people armed with stone tiled arrows and maces with flint blades, or should I say primitive wooden swords with sharp stone edges?, either way, substandard weapons, it was inevitable someone with steal armour, swords and muskets would take advantage.

[lord_chilled]

@Bezbozhnikustanka doesn't make it right tough, now does it?
It was their land.

[KnightCross]

i still think it was right because barbarian people with rustic technology is just wasting space and natural resources. they simply are unproductive or at least less efficient than people with superior civilization. in the end, it was good for natives too because nowadays they can use and enjoy the comfortable standard of life that they would never dream of.

[lord_chilled]

Oh my god.. You did not just say that..
They were wasting natural resources?
Dude, they were using it the right way.
WE are abusing natural resources and polluting the planet.
And no, natives nowadays dont all live in good conditions. Some live in poverty. They definitely dont have the quality of life they once enjoyed.
And its time for you to shut up about superior and inferior civilizations.
there's no such thing. There were civilizations in many parts of the world that supported irrigation, agriculture, and all the basics of a developed, "superior " civilization, while europeans were living in caves, k?
The only reason europeans succeeded in invading other nations is because you got guns , which others didn't have. And you borrowed that from the chinese...

[KnightCross]

u are pathetic, if u really think native indian civilization are that good, then quit this website quit internet, quit electricity and go live in the forest or in the mountains

[lord_chilled]

How about you go take your "superior" self to some nazi gang. I bet they will love you.
Talk to me again after your nuts drop down..

[KnightCross]

as i said to you, quit Western Civilization and go live in the forest with those indians and enjoy their civilization...

[lord_chilled]

Not sure if you left over any of it

[KnightCross]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1jdfcFHOPIw

[lord_chilled]

Not sure of im drunk or the other person is drunk but i didn't understand a word of that...

[Whatthefluff]

Good job.

[KnightCross]

thanks