How about objectifying men? You probably dont think it exists but it does. As a man you are only attractive when you are ripped, have a sixpack and are rich. And you need to be the perfect man, showering your girlfriend with gifts but if you think what do it get in return? You are a chauvinistic pig. This is what the media is telling you, or so people say, i dont really see it. In the real world however you will find that this is just not true. Sure what is deemed mainstream attractive changes every decade. But this doesn't mean that all guys only find that attractive. Every person finds different things attractive and that isn't dictated by what crap the media says. You will find that most guys have their own preferences. Me personally i think the whole big butt craze is ridicoulus, and i find it to be incredibly unattractive. I think kim kardashian looks like a beached whale. But that is just me, sure there are guys that do find that attractive. But thats not the point. Every guy finds something else attractive in women and that has nothing to do with the media. And dont say men are objectifying women we just are not. Every person has their own preferences i am sure you do aswell. And i dont count that as objectifying a gender.
Sorry if the spelling is bad, but i am not a native speaker so it might be a bit messy.
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I mean, to be fair, I had to grow up hearing, and to this day STILL hear, that women want "tall, dark, and handsome." I'm tall, my mom says I'm handsome, haha, but I DEFINITELY am not dark. I read on here fairly frequently how blond guys just don't appeal to many women. So I mean, that sucks, you never want to hear that in my position. But the key is: just don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. It's not like I've never pulled a girl before, I always did pretty well historically. So it's not THAT crippling to not meet the ideal standard of attractiveness to the opposite sex. And every day I see short guys with girlfriends, not-so-handsome guys with girlfriends, blond guys with girlfriends... all these ideals are just words in the air. It's not like only the girls with a fat butt have boyfriends, haha. People get too caught up in what they think they should look like. You can be attracted to a quality that someone doesn't have and still be attracted to that person. It's just not that black-and-white, people just get attracted to whoever they're attracted to, and it doesn't mean they completely rule people without said quality out.
It goes both ways, firstly.
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Also, what makes you think that objectification of women is never desired or carries any sort of advantage towards women? Getting compliments or positive reinforcement for your body is a huge confidence booster. You can twist it however you wish as being 'degrading' and whatnot but I guarantee you'd get your panties in a twist if you ever get rude comments towards your body as well. If you don't want your body to be judged or used as a part of how others view you as well... best just stay at home indefinitely.
It's a big factor of how people perceive you and accordingly will treat you. It's not like they see your competency in the workplace or personality-type right from the get-go. It's also not impossible, nor that difficult, to work on feeling good about yourself regarding parts other than your sexuality, with the latter being just the cherry on top.
If how 'men objectify you' is your only source of personal value, all that means is your were lazy af and took the easy way to 'success' or search for self validation.
We will ALWAYS be objectified in one way or another by "most" men.
I do not think that will ever change.
and because all girls want to be liked and wanted, mens' preference in women will always affect the great majority of women... Just look at all the girls getting ass implants xD... Before it was boobs... and because of all the implants, not what was once considered "big" in natural boobs, are not viewed as small, because the natural big ones must compete with the enormous silicon that guys are going crazy for, but will not admit it because they can't even tell the difference...
and now all this craze about having a gigantic ass... and all because men are lusting for it... If they wouldn't be all crazy over assess, I bet all these girls wouldn't even be interested in expanding their butts.
I wonder what's next... o_o
and all these girls will be back in surgery room to accentuate the next body part that men will be most attracted to in the future... D:
At least the "in" thing varies from time to time so different bodied girls get time in the spotlight.
The male standard has always been pretty much the same:
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This is not true of all guys, and honestly it's almost entirely self imposed by women on themselves through publications which promote these trends. Do you really think in most cases a guy is going to critique you in the same way a fashion magazine or journal critiques you and gives you "advice" on how to be completely "jaw dropping"? I would be hard pressed to believe that any more than a small percentage of the male population would do that.
Instead, I tend to see women putting up these arbitrary goal posts that they then compete against themselves on. Just like the thigh gap trend, the boob contouring, and so on.
Also most fashion magazines are actually run by females. Older females, but females nonetheless.
Evidence to facilitate this claim:
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Almost every magazine out of a non-Arabic or India, or other such countries which are generally considered biased to men, are run by women.I'm not into huge asses at all, most of this shit get's pushed by the magazines, they always have something to write about and so they just can't wait for new trends and shit. Do you really think that just because the media pushes a certain image a guy's taste in women is going to change?
The magazines use their titles to make you think theyhave the secret to everything, you're just a sub par woman now but as soon as you buy this you'll have the secret to the universe or something. I wouldn't care too much about trends and just try and look good in a way that suits you. You can't change how wide your hips are for instance. So if you take the slender elven look from Lord of the Rings and the big ass look, no woman can do both right? You're going to fit in one catergory or the other or somwhere in the middle. So don't follow a "beauty trend" if its not for you. If one comes along that is for you and you ike it then do it therwise just ignore it.
I'm trying to say, find your own style and don't try to be something that doesn't fit you. I think you have a pretty wrong idea of what guys like. We don't all come together and have a convention to decide what's pretty now. Every guy has their own taste and it doesn't have anything to do (for me at least) with what's in the media.men are objectified too just in different ways.
looks - sure, there is not as much media emphasis on the ideal physique for women as there is for women, but the time and dedication required to get that rugged hugh jackman look - cooking, eating, lifting weights - is significantly harder than the aerobics and dieting women have to go through to get size twelve. typically it's not women, not men demanding smaller sizes than that and lots of men - myself included - are actually perfectly content with slightly larger sizes.
money - if men date for looks, then women date for money, no doubt about it. think about it: prostitution and pornography are three times more profitable for women than men; attractive women typically don't date or sleep with men unless they pay for something - whether it's the bill for the date, lavish gifts or literal prostitution; women are more likely to marry for money than men.
status - there's a reason the average tom, dick or harry doesn't get laid and that's because women are always looking for social status. entrepeneurship and high paying salaries are signs of an ambitious, charasmatic man and this is typically the kind of thing women are demanding for in men. confidence attracts but plain old niceness and personality don't do as much. they can even be repellent.
in short, complain all you want about men but on the whole women have MASSIVE standards - they are just better at hiding it and playing the victim card.People will always objectify the other gender to some extent because looks matter to everyone to some extent. Looks are not everything and they do matter to some people more than others but anyone that says looks do not matter to them at all is telling lies.
Also yes men do objectify women but women are also just as bad at doing it to us men to you know.
Some women have such high standards that no man can even achieve even if he wanted to. How do you think that makes men feel knowing they can't live up to those standards. Also what about some of those women's TV shows like Ellen they have men with tops off every single show.
Both genders get objectified not just women.There is nothing objectifying about male heterosexuality and in a generation that considers transgenderism and other forms of sexual deviancy to be normal, I feel no shame for liking sexy feminine women. Furthermore, very few people realistically expect a woman to look like supermodels and the media. Those women are the pinnacle of female beauty, the creme of the crop so to speak. We are reasonable and would settle for an averagely attractive woman. But again, I will never feel shame for liking beautiful women and being heterosexual.
So you are saying women don't objectify men? I think everyone objectifies the opposite gender.
Guys aim for money and status so girls objectify men by their money and their status. Girls aim to be princesses and models so men objectify women based on their appearances.
Does this mean all men judge women by how they look only? No. Does this mean all women judge men by what they have $$$ only? No. It goes both ways.
Also, the media puts pressure on both genres equally. Not everyone can look like Scarleth Johansson or Chris Hermsworth. It's obvious the people they select for the media are top notch good looking and not the average Joe's. Do you see me complaining and comparing myself to those dudes? Nah, I wan to look good truth but how will I compare myself, say, to George Clooney or some shit? lol faulty logic you have.It's not our problem your self esteem is like shit and you feel bad cause you can't be as hot as most men want.
I'm no Channing Tatum, not even close, do I cry about it? No. It is what it is.
Stop whining and feeling bad about yourself, cause everyone has their own preferences, both men and women, so don't blame men for your shit.It's not "men" it's media. Understand that the "objectification" you are talking about is marketing, with they eye of selling products. I'll give you example of "thigh gap" most guys don't have an opinion one way or another about them, in fact until I started seeing questions on this site about them I didn't even know that they were a thing. I can give you other examples. Now to be fair, guys do SEE sexy as opposed to THINK sexy in the sense that guys are attracted to how things look we are wired that way, it's biological a guy has no control over that.
What do you mean by objectify? That we consider some stunning girls beautiful? Well.. Yeah. I mean, sure. Don't you do the same to some men?
Most female beauty standards are made by women, not men. As for men we're varied enough that if you're just staying healthy you've almost certainly passed the bar.
And again, going to stress this, excuse the caps but you need to get this in your head: FEMALE FASHION MEDIA AND TRENDS ARE MADE BY WOMEN. NOT MEN.
There, read that ten times then go to bed hating your own gender, not the other one. We're happy with some very light makeup and you not being obese. Easy to please really.I think women R the ones who make all those trends. Like even with corsets in the past, I heard that lots of doctors and men were against them because of the health risks of tight-lacing hurting ribs and organs. But the women wore them anyway. Corsets actually made a huge comeback this decade becuz of the kardashians.
And just like b4 women wear them and everything else voluntarily.do you realize that women's publications, that push this standard, are mostly written by women, and edited by women, and sold to women?
it is not as if men create new standards every 20 years and then shove them down women's throats with some magical power.many men do yes, but we women do it too. we all perpetuate this objectification. sometimes it might seem frustrating for us as women to be perceived this way, but strangely other times it might feel hot and empowering or we do it to get the attention. I don't know.
Do women realise how much they objectify men?
Every decade has what is "attractive" in a woman. This one it's either a scrawny bearded weirdo or a bodybuilder. Do you girls, and/or the media mostly women are driving, realise how you are making young boys who can't possibly ever live up to this standard feel about themselves?
(but really... look at all the women's magazines drooling over celebrity 'hunks' at the beach and think about how a guy who is shorter or less built must feel)Both genders objectify lust over each other. It's part of human nature.
Having said that, everyone's got their own tastes and preferences. What's attractive to one may not be attractive to another. Yes, some men and women have very high standards but it's not that way for everyone.Ohh boo fcking hoo. Lol cry me a river. Yeah.. "ALL MEN ARE PIGS" This hook up culture that we are in.. women objectify themselves. I feel like women like you are just mad and sexually frustrated because you can't find sex. Don't like your body.. ? Change that and work your ass off for a better one instead of just blaming the world.
I think its us women that is the problem.
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can't generalize all guysWhat's wrong with being objectified? We all want to be made to look sexy. Everyone wants to feel like their body is attractive in someone else's eyes.
And you girls do it to us guys way more often than you want to admit. At least as much as guys do to women.This is not objetification, these are beauty "standards" that exist for both genders. What about those men who get desperate to gain muscles and stuff only to fit the male "standard" of beauty? It works the same way for both sides.
Same goes for men. Not everyone is muscular, tall, and with blue eyes. You just have to realize that there are many different bodies that can be attractive to the other gender, not just the one the media sells.
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