Proof that most Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Greeks, and South Slavs are not white. Your thoughts?

[Anonymous]

South Europeans are Caucasoid and European, but not White, they are a part of the Brown race together with Arabs, Jews, Latinos, and Turks. If we accept that South Europeans are White, then we should admit that Arabs, Turks, and Iranians are White too!

[Anonymous]

My thoughts: They are not white, they've never been white, they'd just like to think they are white because a long time ago, white people who have a massive mistaken superiority complex, convinced the world that they were the best through colonization despite mass murder, mass rape, and outright theft of land and resources. Even though they were the world's biggest criminals, they convinced other people that they were inferior unless they were more like them. So now it's like some sick, twisted, backwards thing that people from all over the world have where it's like so many of them desperately want to claim being white, despite all of the crimes against humanity that have been associated with the white race for centuries.

I have been to Greece and Italy and those people do not look white.

[Djaaaaaay]

Opinion owner. So true about that !! 👍

[Beerhero]

That’s just your personal opinion, scientific fact are another thing:
Being caucasian It's not only about skin/hair/eye colour, but also about numerous other details (DNA it's not so simple) like the shape of the skull, nose and eyes for example.

Map of the actual caucasoid distribution in the world:
abagond.files.wordpress.com/.../...ite-people1.png
As you can see southern Europe is considered caucasian, hence white.

[TheFlak38]

@Beerhero Dude no need to argue with biological ruins. Once you bring up subjects like colonisation, racism, slavery, open borders and how your country must replace its population with Afro-Asians then all of a sudden Southern Europeans are again White and you are a racist if you oppose the demographic destruction of your country. The fact is these people know that Southern Europeans are White. It's just another of their double standards where they like to change opinions depending on the discussion.

[ChocoLada]

LOL, that's just stupid, Slavs are absolutely white, lots of Slavs have blue eyes and blonde hair, including South Slavs.
And for your information, yes - Arabs, Turks, and Iranians (Persians) are also white, whether you like it or not, they are darker just because of the warmer climate, the same goes for the South Europeans (Italians, Spaniards, Greeks, Portuguese).

[diegoD]

yea you are right for the most part, however, the right term is caucasian, and yes the mediterranean and slavic races are "white", that is determined by the cranial features. even middle easterners that are darker almost brown are "white" because they are caucasian

[ChocoLada]

@diegoD Yeah, I know, that's what I meant :D

[Toonny]

Yo, only CERTAIN Arabs, Turks, Jews, and Iranians are white. How the fu*k are Yemenis white?

[Toonny]

@diegoD Europeans are white Caucasians. Middle Easterners can be either white, tan, or brown.

[ChocoLada]

@Toonny Yemenis are white, here is a typical Yemeni man: c1.staticflickr.com/.../...123793_000e817250_b.jpg

Here is a Yemeni woman: www.dissentmagazine.org/.../...armanbyYusra666.jpg

As you can see, Yemeni people are white. Being tan doesn't make you a "different race", Caucasians can be tan too, especially in the Mediterranean region.

[ElissaDido]

Im Arab and I'm not brown. And southern Europeans are definetley not brown.

[Asker]

You are brown.

[ElissaDido]

I'm not.

[legs_n_sheets]

Here my brown gorgeous sister, give me one big hug for equality 😂

[Djaaaaaay]

Opinion owner. I'm souther European , Sicilian souther Italian Arab Serian and Brazilian and brown too , so some of are !!

[Asker]

Why are you denying and obvious fact?

[Asker]

http ://cf. girlsaskguys. com/a31386/4f8d29c7-8f8e-4cef-956d-6aa33d8969af. jpg
These are white people, now look at the mirror and you'll see a brown woman.

[Djaaaaaay]

Asker... What am I denying? Not sure what you mean?

[madhatters4]

the real simple fact is that as human civilization is based out of africa in effect no one is truly white... however that also ascribes to the one race idea

but i definitely believe in this, since most of southern Europe at some point was under control or heavily populated by middle eastern and northern African Moors

[AleDeEurope]

So because we have a different shade of white, we're not white anymore? So I'm guessing a light skin black shouldn't be considered black, cause it's not as black as others... xD

Brown race, she said... oh god... hahahhahhaha

[legs_n_sheets]

Coño Ale, nos han llamado morenos 😂

[AleDeEurope]

@legs_n_sheets Hahahahah I love the fact you said "coño", I don't hear that often anymore xD

[legs_n_sheets]

Because you're pretending to be a white American now. Don't you know, you're just an Spaniard brownie 😢😭

[EmpatheticLady]

@legs_n_sheets Was going to tag both of you, but I see you already commented. xD

[Asker]

Brown and white are different colours. How can a brown person be called white? It's like calling red apples green.

[AleDeEurope]

Well... black people aren't black sooooooo xD

[Rohan2]

Southern Europe was conquered by Arabs and moors so, it's not surprising that some souther europeans are darker than norther Europeans.

How ever their are European Italians close to Switzerland, they are unmistakably white.
So nationality is not the best indicator of race

So I agree caucasoid/European

[anonman32]

skin color is determined by geographical location, the pictures show that nicely. does it matter if they are white or not? no it does not. what is important here is that people will evolve in a particular way to survive easier in their habitat.

we are always under effect of natural selection and evolution. just let evolution take its course. the longer we will exist as a species the more superior our species becomes. look at crocodiles, they have existed for millions of years. they are ultimate survivors.

lets just drop our ideologies about race.

[TadCurious]

So, Latinos are part of the so-called "Brown race."
The president of Mexico is a Mexican.
Mexicans are Latinos.
This is a picture of the president of Mexico:
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[Asker]

He is brown and still whiter than most Italians and Spaniards.

[diegoD]

your comments are ignorant. latinos are very diversified, the majority are mixed of native americans and mostly Spanish europeans, but some are europeans, some are native americans specially mexico and peru

[Beerhero]

Being caucasian It's not only about skin/hair/eye colour, but also about numerous other details (DNA it's not so simple) like the shape of the skull, nose and eyes for example.

Map of the actual caucasoid distribution in the world:
abagond.files.wordpress.com/.../...ite-people1.png
As you can see southern Europe is considered caucasian, hence white.

[ThisDudeHere]

White means that a person hails from the group that moved in to Europe from the Caucausus region - meaning literally every native European is white. Slavs, Spaniards and Italians included.

[Asker]

It's an outdated opinion.

[ThisDudeHere]

No it is not. It is fact.

[Asker]

Read some materials on the European ancestry. First Europeans came to Europe from Asia and they are closer to Finns and Scandinavians than to other Europeans. Italians and Spaniards have mostly Near Eastern Neolithic Farmer ancestry which has nothing to do with Europe. They are Semites and closely related to Jews and Arabs.

[Alex88F]

White, black... and who gives a shit? it all depends where you live and the culture you live in. skin colour is irrilevant in 2016 as it was in the past

[Djaaaaaay]

Opinion owner. So true , just how I believe also !!

[Asker]

No, you are not right.

[Asker]

You are brown by the way.

[Alex88F]

lol k so you're superior cos you're really White?

[wankiam]

two things here... one, why does it matter? and two... we all originate from one valley in africa

[sedrftvgyhujik]

I'm many generations British and naturally a sort of orangery very light brown very few people are paper white and most people don't want to be that light hence people tanning.

[menina]

If they aren't white, then I've been fooled my entire life.

[EmpatheticLady]

This the second question in less than 24 hours I've seen on here about this. Who cares?

[Editor]

I already thought that. But this whole thing is really, really unimportant.

[sweetshyguy]

Maybe but it's really irrelevant, we are almost all mixed, in a few years we'll be all mixed beause humans like to fuck each other, white women like black men and white men like black women (i've seen this) and Asians are getting mixed into the bunch too, nobody will be pure, mark my words.

[StolenUsername]

Nobody is pure already

[sweetshyguy]

@StolenUsername Exactly and we are going to get even more mixed

[menina]

Well, some white women might like black men. But I don't think white men do like black women.

[sweetshyguy]

@menina I know men that like black women but they are europeans, maybe americans are all racists

[menina]

Well, that's rare. I don't see it often.
I don't know if Americans are racists or not because I don't live in the US.

[sweetshyguy]

@menina Ok but i know many men that love black women and honestly a black woman with big booty makes my mouth water

[menina]

It's good to know that.
I always hear and read negative comments about black women.

[sweetshyguy]

@menina Because they're racists, trust me everything has it's public even shy guys have girls that are attracted to them

[menina]

That's true.
I just hope you're right.

[sweetshyguy]

@menina I am, i'm a shy guy and i had 3 girlfriends

[menina]

That's good!
So, it seems to me that you're right. :)

[Asker]

I hate black guys.

[Djaaaaaay]

Opinion owner. Very true also... I'm European and my girl is half black herself. A great woman at that.

[wolfcat87]

@menina If you are not a black woman, then you cannot have an opinion. I'm mixed, and mixed women are consistently voted most attractive. I have never met a man who was not attracted to me because of my skin color. Even self proclaimed racists have tried to date me! I've barely been single a day since kindergarten, and I was proposed to many times. My husband is white. My mother and grandmother also could not keep men away, and my mother is much darker than I am. Everyone thinks both are very lovely and desirable. The only thing men really tend to have an issue with are stereotypical "black" personalities. It's certainly not about looks.

More attractive than white or black women. As for Portuguese, I dated a Portuguese guy and DNA tested him through 23andMe thinking he may have mixed heritage. He said it was punishable by death to mix blood with Moors when they invaded, so it was unlikely. DNA testing came back 100% white. Imagine that. Not much more African DNA than my 100% Norwegian grandfather or French/British grandmother. My 100% Norwegian grandfather came back with.3% African DNA. Portuguese came back with.5%.

My son is 27% black and looks like a white kid. He has pale skin, hazel eyes, and dark blond hair. No one has ever thought he was anything but white unless they were told, and someone once asked if he was even mine. My daughter is 26% black and looks as tan as me.

[wolfcat87]

@menina If you put me next to a tan Native American, Portuguese person, South Asian, Pacific Islander, or a very tan white guy, we all end up around the same degree of tan... Some black people, Mexicans, and Indians get darker. There may be more that do, but those are what I am familiar with. Very few people do not tan in the sun. Most can get very pale as well. If I stay out of the sun, I get very pale and people have a harder time guessing my ethnicity.

My nana is 84% black, but she's paler than I am and has gray eyes! Ethnicity is not about skin color, it's about DNA. Only a very uneducated person could not comprehend that. DNA says that Portuguese are indeed as white as any other European whites. The discussion really ends there. Phenotypes are such a tiny part of DNA. They don't really define anything. Your logic is like thinking everyone with blue eyes must be white, except we know that is not true since their is a blue eyes gene that evolved in the black population of the Solomon Islands. It's dumb. Pale skin is not specific to whites, tan skin is not specific to non whites any more than brown eyes and brown hair are.

[menina]

@wolfcat87 I don't know who you are and I'm not going to argue with you about a question that is super old and I didn't even remember that I commented on this.

Just got a question for you: if I'm not a black woman, why would I use an avatar of a black doll?

[Dimmu]

There are white Arabs and Turks
Why some people wanna feel special , not because of their own success but just from their color
Pity

[Dred1614returns]

I can't speak for all these groups, but this does not apply to all Italians.

[xxbebosxx]

good for you. you want a cookie?

[legs_n_sheets]

As a half Italian dude I could care less lol

[archiz]

ayeeee

[Asker]

You look like an Arab to me.

[archiz]

didn't you say arabs and italians belong to the same race brown race anw :P

[legs_n_sheets]

@archiz lol all latinos, south europeans, and arabs are all the same anyways, according to you

[Djaaaaaay]

Opinion owner. @archiz. Is correct and I'm Latin myself too

[AleDeEurope]

Then most Americans and Canadians aren't white either, considering how Spain and France had more territories in N. America than any other country. Even in the British colonies, many weren't white either, cause Romans had control of the UK for a long time, therefore "brown blood" runs through Brits veins.
The US and Canada is predominantly brown too, then... hmm, interesting :/

[Asker]

@AleDeEurope Romans wee white, Italians have nothing to do with them.

[ElissaDido]

I'm fucking beige OP never said I'm white but im not brown either!
Geez have you ever bought foundation? You have a problem with detecting colors,

[Asker]

@ElissaDido This woman is beige. http ://cliqueimg. com/cache/posts/169557/how-to-pick-the-right-hair-color-for-your-skin-tone-1499856.640x0c. jpg

You are, however, yellow.

[AleDeEurope]

@ElissaDido she's a troll, just ignore her.
Romans have nothing tondo with Italy, she said xD

[Asker]

@AleDeEurope Yes, that's my topic too. But I have not still seen any arguments for the contrary, only insults and crying.

[Djaaaaaay]

Absolutely correct that they are non white.

[Usernameisnttaken1]

Why is skin color such a big deal?

[Asker]

It's not a big deal, but they still want to be viewed white.

[CisScum]

As a full on white person, I don't care.

[ClumsyAngel]

I call some of those latinos/hispanics as a race