Do men still like obedient and submissive women?

[Anonymous]

I'm curious what the men have to say on this especially. My mom and sister give me crap whenever I say I prefer to obey and be submissive to my man. Not to the point of being an idiot and letting someone get me in all kinds of trouble. But when faced with a strong, masculine man who is a good person and a good leader, I enjoy submitting. I do feel like more women should do that, but I also think its her own choice how she wants to behave. I like to be more submissive. Do men like that or do most men find it unattractive? I haven't had any issues, but I'm curious about what most men (here anyway) feel about this. My sister is more the assertive type who thinks being submissive is being a doormat and she doesn't want me to be taken advantage of. I dont think she's wrong to be more assertive, I just think we are different.

so men - submissive and obedient. Is it a turn on and you like it? Or you dont like this type of woman?

[redeyemindtricks]

Ahaha ffuuuuuuu
Girlfriend.

So-called "dominant" men who "only like submissive women" ... aren't actually dominant at all. They're fake all the way to the bone.

The ONLY time when submission actually MEANS ANYTHING... is when it comes from someone who's NOT a "submissive person" in general.

Submission from someone who always walks around like the world's bitch anyway -- "seen not heard", hunched, eyes always cast toward the ground, never sure of herself without someone's approval -- is stupid and meaningless. Because THAT kind of person would "submit" to ANYONE. Anyone at all.

Sexual submission is only *meaningful* when it comes from someone who OTHERWISE takes NO shit.
Someone who offers up a REAL CHALLENGE -- physically, sexually, spiritually, and mentally -- and who needs to be overwhelmed, taken in hand, and "defeated" -- in all the best ways -- before she'll "submit".

And who'll STILL offer up that feisty challenge... FOREVER.
Her submission is NEVER taken for granted, and ALWAYS earned.
Earned.
Every time.

THAT kind of "submissive" will only submit to someone who's actually WORTHY of her.
All the pretenders, and all the fakers, and all the other kinds of shitheads who actually WOULD disrespect her... will fail her challenges. And oh sweet fuck how spectacularly they will fail.

I've been married for more than 15 years to the one man who's *always* been able to... break me.
To make me completely and totally his.

He's a man who had his pick of any woman he might want (and still would, too, even now)... and he chose the one who kept getting up in his face, and making him *break* her... hard.
He chose someone ON HIS LEVEL.
#mmhmmbby

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See... everyone talks a good game about "a lady in the streets and a freak in the sheets".

Yeah, that's a thing.

But, what's even better, is when a man knows his woman is HIS bitch... and ONLY his bitch. To everyone else, she's a boss bitch.

See, THAT woman will be the challenge he craves... AND she'll hold the line of authority as the mother of his children, AND she'll command everyone's respect as his WIFE.
She'll NEVER be taken away from him.

As opposed to some mousy-ass stereotype of a woman who's so GENERALLY "submissive" that she practically apologizes for her own existence.
That's the type who's most likely to be unfaithful, because she'll "submit" to... well, anyone.
Lol smh.

Submissiveness in a woman's heart is a beautiful thing -- but, a man needs to EARN that shit.
Every single day.
Forever.

<3

[Asker]

This is a bit much for me lol But to each her own. I'm glad that you and your husband are happy together.

[btbc92]

The keen and perfect wife that any good man would NEED in a woman, not just want. However you also have to be your own unique person as well. But its best to not even ask that question to everybody else. The person that loves you would want you for you. Especially in a marriage. A woman needs to heed and submit to her husband in love and likewise to the husband for his wife. However, he is still the head over her. And its this simple thing that make marriages fail today. There is no balance. Overall if this is something your more happy doing, go ahead. You sound like a person who's suitable as a wife, and who will never leave her husband.

[SvetlanaSavachenko]

I was raised to be a submissive and obedient woman and personally I think that's how it should be. Women are by nature weaker than men physically so weakness should always submit to strength. I believe also that being the prettier of the sexes it is our place to entice the men to want us then submit to them.

Of course look at my age and realize women like me are a dying breed.

[Asker]

Yes, I think I definitely connect to an older idea of femininity, and I appreciate the women who laid down that example. I also think its great that women have so many choices today. My choice is to treat my man like a king and enjoy my place as submissive to that strong masculinity that I love so much. :)

[SvetlanaSavachenko]

Do you get all prettied up for your man, a nice dress, heels and hose, jewelry, makeup and your hair nice to give him sex or even a blowjob? I always dress nice in case a man wants to use my body for his pleasure, I will already be ready for him. Hopefully my appearance is what turned him on in the first place.

[hellionthesage]

Yes if its not to an extreme, I want some one I can talk to but also some one who will tell me the truth even if I don't want to hear it (I pride myself on that trait in myself I would expect no less for her). And obviously if she was just submissive to any one that would be odd to me, I would want it to be because she trusted me and my abilities. The thing I hate is when the woman is acting to assertive because while I am easy going I don't tolerate bullshit and I don't tolerate being pushed around, I also don't appreciate when women try to be submissive but only when they feel like it and then act assertive at other times because its basicly creating an inbalance, either I take charge or you do but we both can't be the leader at the same time nor can we both be waiting around for the other to take charge. So yes I preffer her to be submissive (but in my view of things that doesn't mean she is submitting to just anybody, I'm in charge but she is my second in command kind of thing if that makes sense). I do think it makes women much happier (that's why women are always looking for strong assertive men) and I think it makes the relationship more harmonious because every one knows what role they play and when to play it their is no miscommunications nor confusion.

[Anonymous]

I would hate it. I wouldn't be looking for a lost puppy. And I dont have time to raise and take care of a child. I need a woman not a child. A headstrong and ballsy woman.

[Asker]

Well, that's the beauty of diversity. A lot of men like my sister because of her "headstrong and ballsy" image. Usually the kind of guys who are really into me are not the same who prefer her personality. We're just too different, but there's nothing wrong with that at all. I would want everyone to find someone that makes them happy. :)

[boardsncookies]

Bruv u need to guide that lost puppy as a Man. Seems like that child is older than 18, can suck a mean dick and has a tight snatch. "Ballsy woman" sound like a pussy bruv, seems like a need a woman as the man of YOUR house, some males are just pussyfied if thats how u spell it LOL

[boardsncookies]

I need someone like you fr! Submissive and obedient too mhmmm a woman that never steps outta her place. If u have a pretty face and a nice ass mhmm we can be something together honestly.

[MarilynMansonsSlvt]

@boardsncookies Eww... "her place"... xx ~ Mrs Manson

[boardsncookies]

@MarilynMansonsSlvt why u saying eww, if a woman wants to try me and yell in my face over non sense or wants to belittle me imma not touch her physically but show her emotionally and verbally dont fuck wit me while i still love her... FACTS b

[MarilynMansonsSlvt]

@boardsncookies Okay, but do you belittle women? xx ~ Mrs Manson

[Asker]

@boardsncookies haha I understand, most men like to be dominant, including my boyfriend. I believe your woman is out there! and I hope you're ready to lead her as a good man. Not all men know how to lead well. I give my opinions, and he loves me for it, but I do know my place as his woman. It's like a soft, feminine delivery and being considerate of what he's going through opposed to throwing everything at him with force when I want to, on my time. Partnerships can't last like that with a very dominant, masculine man. He wouldn't stick with a woman who approaches things like that or always criticizes him or puts him down.

[Asker]

My boyfriend knows he deserves my respect and commands it. he values me for my beauty, character, and values, but he also loooves my femininity and submission. He never has to worry about me embarrassing him in front of friends, acting trashy, and absolutely never has to be concerned about me criticizing him in public or calling him out. I've actually had girls try to call him out in front of me and get me to call him out. I usually just defend him calmly or laugh it off and say thats his opinion, I'm not discussing this with you, etc. They would never catch me tearing my man down, I just would never do it. So in a lot of ways, yes, I do know my place and its that kind of composure and discipline that makes him proud to walk into a room with me, instead of terrified of what I might do or say.

[jp612612]

I admit that my opinion here is very slanted, but I regret being turned off by submissive/obedient women in the past. I dated some and I always found them boring and weak. However, I ended up dating a seemingly successful, assertive one who loved to brag about her Ph. D. etc. We dated for a few years, got engaged, and three days after getting married, she moved into her own room and started spending money like crazy (we had a combined AGI of over $400,000 but had trouble growing assets). Any type of complaints about sex life, spending, or what not was met with an "are you stupid?" look paired with a "you don't control me" type talk. When I filed for divorce years later, she got pissed, accused me of domestic abuse and it was just awful. Everything turned out ok in the end, but it made for the absolute worst years of my life. Looking back on it, I feel silly that I sort of looked down on the women that I dated who wanted to take their husband's name. I definitely never want to get married again, but if I were to do it, it would have to be with someone who wanted to take my name. And it's not because that actual act means anything to me (it doesn't), it's because of what I feel it tells about a woman.

[Goldie757]

Submissive yes.
Obedient no.

A good relationship , a healthy relationship, is built on good communication. It’s built on mutual respect and equal love — and that cannot possibly be there in a relationship where one has to be obedient, as the obedient one is permanently deemed as less valuable.

[kittenmitten]

"Do men like that or do most men find it unattractive?" I find it ok. It's no requirement, it's good but other attitudes may be good too.
"and she doesn't want me to be taken advantage of." Looks like you have a good sister. Good for you! ;)
"I just think we are different. " You definitely are.
"so men - submissive and obedient. Is it a turn on and you like it?" Can be a turn on. But for me it's not the only working formula.

[MrMysteryMan]

I want a strong woman, not a puppy dog. Someone who knows what she wants and isn't afraid of asking or saying what she believes in and desires. But, I also don't want to get hand cuffed and then whipped and have a huge ass dildo up my ass.

I like the idea of having control rolls shared. Sexually, it's fun to be the dominant one and also fun to be the dominated one. But not to extremes for me. I just like it if the girl wants to be on top and fuck my brains out holding my hands back and using me at times. Or just decides that she wants my cock even in a less private situation and takes me right there. Or I'm chillin on the couch and then she comes in half naked or naked and starts to undress me. That kind of "dominance" is fucking hot as hell! But you try and treat me like your puppy dog or servant or a lesser person in the relationship, you will be out the door in no time, and probably not very pleasantly. I would expect the same from the woman as well. A woman shouldn't be treated as the lesser in the relationship. But I want to be able to grab you and take you if I want and visa versa.

[lightbulb27]

In the case you pointed out, that's fine, I get it. a lot of men do as well.

But in general, I don't care for submissive women, respectful yes! But I like to have an active brain to talk to, respond, more of an equal.

be careful in that you truly get the character you want. I know a woman like you who in the end... her husband was controlling and it really isn't good. get to know all sides of the guy if that is what you want.

[posted]

I don't exactly dislike it, do whatever you want, they can do whatever they want. It's none of their business.

[DodgersGM]

I'd be lying if I said I didn't like submission in the bedroom. But I like to earn that; I don't want it to just be handed over to me. At least, not in the beginning anyway.

In day to day life, I'd like a woman who wants to make decisions as a team. If she's more comfortable with me being a leader, then that's cool. But I'll still want her input.

[redeyemindtricks]

Well said.

[Mesonfielde]

You don't have to be "obedient", but you also shouldn't be an unlikable tactless asshole who thinks deserves everything always just because you have a vagina and all vaginas are princesses or whatever.

[MidnightStar]

Problem is too submissive becomes a bore, there is a fine balance and relationships, or marriage, are about teamwork and balance

[JRICHARDS1996]

There is nothing more glorious to me than a woman who submits, and lets me take care of her. I was the oldest child growing up, so I need to feel like I am taking the lead and nurturing the woman. I value subservience.

[boardsncookies]

FACTS G

[AdamThomas]

Masculine men prefer submissive women. It's natural and often even dominant women submit to a man if he's deemed worthy. There's a difference between being submissive and being a doormat though, a doormat will do anything, not know their own mind and will put up with crap, which you should obviously never do.

[Asker]

I agree with that, I do really get to know a guy before fully submitting to him. Not being very assertive can hurt the relationship sometimes, but I try to communicate how I feel and what I need in my own softer way. How he responds is a good indicator of whether or not he's good for me. A good leader cares for your feelings, even though he knows he has the final say on things. I don't expect my input to change his mind all the time, but I do expect him to care and treat me well. Some guys don't understand how a man is supposed to dominate a good woman, they will try to abuse that power and run all over you. My ex was like that and I had to remove myself from the situation. I was so in love with him and we were engaged, but I had to consider the likelihood that he wouldn't change in time for my happiness. I won't do things that will hurt either of us, but I am mostly obedient, as I said. I will do things for him that I don't always want to do. And of course, always respect him.

[Saoirse_Nua]

Many men like it

[jman46241]

I used to, but that can turn out to be more frustrating. It's great to be able to get a woman to do what you want, but then again there's no challenge.. Compromise is key to a long lasting relationship.

[Phoenix98]

I quite like that but I also like a woman who can be dominant and who is her own person and will challenge me on many levels because. I don't find a challenge in someone or something that poses nothing, like I like my dominance to be challenged by her own among other things, but I also like her to be able to have the ability to be submissive and obedient but still her own person.

I guess I like a switch girl, someone who is both.

[tyber1]

I agree with your sister

[feminismisnarcissism]

i prefer it... especially as such women can usually play good domination in the bedroom - ie they can be switches in the bedroom. My girlfriend is like this and she's wonderful

[Asker]

As in dominate a man sexually? Oh my, I would never do that. But I'm glad you found someone to fit your needs. :) I like dominant in bedroom as well (and other places lol) - a man who knows he's the boss and I'm his little bitch. That's my preference.

[feminismisnarcissism]

You're still young-never say never. Many of my sexual interests didn't appear until 35-40. Including any interest in sexual submission. I'm a very dominant man (obviously) but I like to switch it up sometimes in the bedroom. My girlfriend is an extremely submissive person but was shocked to find out she loved to dominate in bedroom... you never know.

[guyngals]

The main point is, as you said, it should be your choice (if msde freely and with knowledge of what it involves). Submitting to a man out of preference is a better example of women's freedom than your family telling you what to do.

Feminists tend not to be liberals.

[RedThread]

Meh I prefer a more equal relationship.

[TacosRAwesome]

I pretty much agree with you except I don't want a man to be submissive not want a man to be dominant. I guess that would make him dominant. Basically I want someone who doesn't ask for my permission to do things but asks for my opinion.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

Well yea. It's often said that when a man earns a woman's submission, his love for her goes up and out, both in a manner of speaking and literally. At least that's how it is for me.