Domestic violence! How do you feel about Ray Rice cut, then suspended by NFL for striking his then-fiancée?
What Guys Said 18
Rice needs to never play football in the NFL again
Commissioner Roger Goodell needs to be removed as commissioner for trying to sweep this under the rug he and his staff never asked for the video to review it or worse yet they saw the video 4 months ago and chose not to act beyond a stupid 2 game suspension.
The latest Instagram from Rice's now wife where she blames the media for what has happened needs to have someone tell her this issues is "beyond you and your abuser husband"4
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I don't know anything about it, not being a follower of American football (Rugby football and Association football are confusing enough!), apart from what people on here have said, and they have said that Rice's fiancee started it physically. Assuming that that is true, I side with Rice. I have no sympathy for anyone who initiates force. I don't care who it is or what the motivation is. If an initiator of force wishes to avoid bad consequences, the solution is... don't initiate force.5
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It took the spread of this video for him to be cut. He was already known to have done the deed. The publicity is what got him cut.
The NFL has no issue keeping players who are proven guilty of heinous crimes.2
I haven't watched the video, But I don't agree with a guy hitting a woman. Unless his life is in danger.
Getting cut. I have no opinion on.
Indefinite suspension is ridiculous. He's not the first to do it. And he will not be the last.3
Punishment he got isn't enough. Banned from the NFL for life would be nice for openers. After that I think he should be prosecuted for a felony and then off to prison where other inmates can beat the shit out of him so he knows how it feels to be on the other side. And from there I hope it goes downhill further for him.
As for the NFL, once it was all over the Internet and TV, I assure you Roger Goodell had no choice. He is walking a tightrope now in gusty winds. The NFL has a long list of problems. Bad player behavior on and off the field is one of them. Every other week, there is an OUI, a bar brawl, domestic violence, substance abuse topped by ongoing lawsuits for brain injuries, racism as in the case of Incognito, and in the case of Aaron Hernandez, allegations of murder. There is only so much room for the NFL to tap dance around all of it.4
his ass should be in jail and band from ever playing in the NFL for life and not get in the Hall Of Fame in Canton Ohio3
The way I see this is: Either his fiancée is petrified of him and is covering the domestic violence up OR media is blowing it out of proportion and she is just rectifying the truth.1
I think the NFL handled the situation about as poorly as an organization could handle it but I definitely think he should've been suspended. I think it's absurd that they suspended for 2 games initially, then made a policy of 6 games suspension for a first time domestic abuse issue, and a lifetime ban for the 2nd only to suspend him indefinitely about 2 weeks later... I mean what's the logic there
I also think it was entirely disingenuous of the commissioner to try and convince the public that the harsher punishment was because he was so outraged over the video that came out this week when he knew precisely what happened back in February.
I think the handling of the matter was awful and pretty much a disgrace but I do think that Ray Rice deserved punishment (not necessarily what he's gotten)0
I think we should refrain from resorting to violence whenever possible.2
Smoking Pot - 1 year suspension
Beating the shit out of your wife - 3 game suspension1
He deserves what he gets...1
I don't care.0
First thing was that she started hitting him. I have zero sympathy for anyone that starts a fight. Second thing, for people that say he should've just restrained her because he's stronger are incredibly ignorant when it comes to how the human body works. It doesn't matter if he was the worlds strongest man in the world. A full-grown woman has enough strength to knock him out with a single punch. Yes, you read that correctly. Any healthy adult can knock any other healthy adult out with one single punch. Regardless of how much stronger the one getting hit is. All that matters is that the punch hits the person in just the right spot. There are four ways to knock someone out with one hit.
1. Side of the jaw near the back end.
2. Right under the jaw with an uppercut. If the knuckle hits the sensitive spot that is just underneath the jaw, it will knock the person out.
3. A punch straight to the temple. Not only could this knock someone out, but it could also kill them.
4. A kick to the area where the neck and jaw meet.
All it would take would be one single punch from her in the right spot and he would be knocked the fuck out. And if he tries to restrain her, who's to say that she doesn't get that one punch off, and that one punch happens to hit this specific area.
The video doesn't look like he hit her all that hard. He just happened to hit her in that right spot. He could've hit her as hard as he could with a straight jab and she would've left with a broken face, but she wouldn't have been knocked unconscious. It's not about how hard someone hits. It's all about where someone hits. In all honesty, I'd rather be knocked out with one punch than to be conscious after a hard jab to my cheekbone breaking it.
As for the suspension. I have a problem with how it was handled. First they give him a 2 game suspension. He serves this suspension. Then after seeing the video they suspend him indefinitely. The new rule they came out with AFTER his first suspension1
... and yet we have guys in ISIS beheading journalists. Which is worse?0
What Girls Said 6
I think the main reason I'm so pissed off and think he doesn't deserve to get in trouble is because Michael Vick, a guy that made dogs fight for his and others enjoyment and killed them, barely got any time. He also got his job back but all this guy did was punch a stupid ass girl and he apparently should never ever play again and rot in jail. Like hundreds of dogs lives aren't worth one dumb girl getting knocked out. I hate violence but this is just bullshit.4
I think he got what he deserved by being released from the Ravens and suspended indefinitely from the NFL.
His actions were definitely not justifiable at all. As I have said in another post about this topic, I'm all for self-defense, but she did nothing to deserve being knocked out cold like that. He could have easily restrained her instead of punching her in the face. She did slap him and that was certainly wrong, but he took it way too far by punching her like that. Of course, I do think she's an idiot for marrying him after this incident and defending him to the media.3
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he is a pig. it seems way to many guys in NFL beat women and animals. I think they should have a rule in all pro athletics, that you if do something like that then your finished in sports for life.2
I think she deserves it if she still married him after that: for being pain dumb. She now knows what type of husband he is and obviously wants to still be with a short-tempered man, ok then that's her problem.
Needlessly to say, I think a punch is too much for a slap. She didn't hit him like a man nor kick his balls. Plus, it doesn't seem like he was doing it in self-defense but in retaliation. Self-defense is different from retaliating in anger. Straight out cold punching his fiancee shouldn't be used as first resort, but as last if indeed nothing else is working and the guy truly feels his life is threatened, not because he's angry.0
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