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lol you're just pissed that you didn't get a free meal.
All she ordered was a hot chocolate lmao
i dont see how he was that bad. maybe its you that are deluded:
-He doesn't have to eat nachos with you. like wtf. he could be fully stuffed or allergic to corn. they could give him gasses or whatever. and you call HIM non-empathetic?
-He doesn't have to pay for you.
-Most women ARE bad at giving directions.
-Being considerate and asking you wasn't bad. Do you prefer smooth players that just use you to their liking?
Jeez lady... how long is your checklist, those all seem like minor stuff to me.
Strike one... strike two... strike three... you're out
DIVA ALERT!!!
seeing the verbal beatdown you're getting in the comments by both genders has partially restored my faith in humanity
I do that, too, you know? I don't pay for a woman I just met. Not even if I like her. It's a perfect way to screen out the gold diggers, narcissists, psychopaths and special snowflakes.
My relationships have gotten SO much better since I did this because women like you are no longer part of my life.
sounds to me like you just date socially awkward guys...
it's funny because i know a lot of guys on here would love a socially awkward girl and hate confident girls... go figure
these terms are vague. men like you usually use confident girl to describe bimbo sluts. also socially awkward is subjective and everyone is or should be s. a. in the sense that everyone should be unique and not be assimilated by the masses.
@levantine99 uh this is pure political correctness talk. First there's no should be there's only observations of what is and second no by that comment I meant confident girls are harder to get/get to know a lot of guys on here would like the easy to know socially awkward girl who makes them feel good up front. Whether you're different has nothing to do with it. If you've been around people enough or are just naturally great with people then you're no longer awkward most of the time (I admit I used to be painfully shy and had to work harder to become very comfortable socializing with people I didn't know) these guys she describes just don't seem like they're very good at it. They're very awkward
@levantine99 Yes, those are terms that are mostly used as put-downs if we don't have any factual basis to criticize someone.
@martyfellow oh god the white knight trend is reemerging on this site
His hair, his rules. Understand?
Poor guy. Had he paid for the hot chocolate, he'd have ended his night with a bj.
"Not paying for your date"
I'm sorry, but in the situation you described, you clearly split the bill. Can't you pay for yourself? That's really pathetic.
After reading some of your comments, you really do seem sexist. "I only date gentlemen" = "I'm a selfish princess who wants men to pay for me". Enjoy dying alone.
Agree @Kirah , you don't want to pay your own way, so you're not a giver...
There is so many high value men, that won't even give you a look in honey,
men with options, love givers
If he asked, he should have told you he wanted to go dutch upfront. That's what I would say if I asked a guy on a date.
What if he says no?
I've never been on a date before where the guy was rude enough to actually pay for his before I even arrived. It's like he wanted to make sure he wouldn't be in a position to pay when the bill came.
Girl, pay for your own stuff, you're not entitled to the guy's money in any way, shape or form.
@SpecialAgentStone let me guess. You're single
@SpecialAgentStone my last boyfriend always paid. Because he was a gentleman and that's what you do. One time he spent $90 on dinner so I picked up the tip. That's it. I only date gentlemen
No, you guessed wrong. But it tells us a lot about you if you think the only way for a guy to get into a relationship is if he pays for your shit.
Your last boyfriend was a doormat who believed that your time is worth paying for but his isn't, and now you think that every man you date must be willing to be your doormat. You can try to justify it any way you want but you used your ex for money and now you're mad that not every guy is stupid enough to do that. Well, toughen up, princess, the world doesn't revolve around you.
@SpecialAgentStone oh please. You guys take social norms and try to twist them into evil demons for your mgtow propaganda. If you want to talk about using people for money, that's why I have a sugar daddy.
I'm not MGTWO though. I'm in a happy relationship with a girl who, by the way, paid on our first date.
MyTakeOwner, you try to imply that @SpecialAgentStone has no luck with women when it's actually you who is still single (and deservedly so)? I hope the irony is not lost on you.
@SpecialAgentStone Then I'd ask why. Why should I pay for you, when I don't even know you?
And I don't think Asker's boyfriend was a doormat, but I agree, it's totally realistic for people to pay for themselves.
@jessica5d Lol
myTake Owner he always paid for you because you never thought of equality in your life. You always expected him to pay. I guess you didn't even take turns asking your ex out and even if you did, you made him pay.
"my last boyfriend always paid. Because he was a gentleman and that's what you do. One time he spent $90 on dinner so I picked up the tip. That's it. I only date gentlemen."
Wow, that's a gold-digger statement. He was a gentleman, but you aren't a true woman for sure.
@SovereignessofVamps You're a wise woman.
@Imhotep99 I've often been in the situation where I earned significantly more than my date, so I was always happy to pay. When I was dating women in the same field as me, we tended to split or take turns with the bills. My current partner earns much more than I do, so she usually pays (from our shared account). It has always felt comfortable; I appreciate it when they pay, they appreciated it when I did.
@goaded Nice to know that.
@Imhotep99 Thanks.
Wow, the take owner really is sexist. Expects the guy to pay for her. "I only date gentlemen" or "I'm traditional!" is really just a code word for "avoid me, I'm a hypocritical sexist!"
@Kirah Amen to that !! Unfortunately her ilk are very common !!
I don't think he did much wrong.
Why should he eat if he's not hungry? Just order your food and let him just have a drink.
I don't mind paying for myself on a date. It's nice if the man pays, simply because it shows he is keen, but it's not essential.
It's not his fault he got lost.
Also, I seem to be in the minority, but I actually find it quite sweet when a bloke asks if he can kiss me.
I've been on far worse dates! lol!
The problem with asking is that these days if the man does not ask (on-going affirmative consent) in some jurisdictions he can be charged with sexual assault, or rape.
Thank the Feminists.
Preposterous
What you describe as preposterous is the reality that men face. Perhaps you did not get the memo.
See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjEl05_BhYg
I just watched this it's disgusting that a batualar tax was passed and even a singles tax now. I do have to wonder if maybe idiots vote more that the sane pepole or other wise why laws get passed without putting it to public vote?
also the verbal thing in america is completely out of touch with reality fact is it's not verble its both smile and move in if not you don't kiss.
Men avoiding relationships movement is not just guys that can't get laid there there genuine social and now legal issues men face i'm sure a number think i don't want to deal with or risk that. It's made me hesitate before and i'm delicious.
I may be a complete bastard at times, but yeah I'm picking up the freaking check if I asked you out. Jesus, SMH.
Oh and never ASK to kiss the girl. Crikey, if she's repeatedly making eyes at your non-birthmarked lips and moved into your personal space? She wants the kiss. They'll send the bloody signals.
I can tell you why some girls will never get a second date.
1. And ex is in the picture, unless it is a baby dad no one wants to deal with that shit.
2. Telling too much too soon, one girl told me she had 9 concussions and a 10th one would make her legally insane. Another one told me she was stripper and one time let a customer of hers... I'll use a nice term "relieve" himself on her for 500$ didn't want anything else. She also said if I couldn't bang her 15 times a day she'd cheat on me
the last girl sounds like a girl you could have fun with for awhile.
There's always the shelter for the homeless if you're looking for free food.
That is an excellent answer.
@Robin48 I try to help where I can.
You are a great support in what real life is. Thanks
@themartian you just win
@tyber1 I was born to win.
I was also born to win. I not a faller.
I running right next to you. We both are going to teach the world what is appropriate and inappropriate. Teach them social norms, values, ethics, and morals. How to have real friends.
Ide pay for all our dates , and I don't have a problem with asking out and paying. But , down the line you get stupid with me... a few of my ladies friends will knock your f teeth out. This is how I balance the bs. I csnt stand entitled people , guy or girl.
What happened might actually be a cultural clash or maybe he has 0.000... experience in dating plus he might have a low empathy. I get what you are trying to say, not sharing something in the moment and been to individualistic can spoil a date, I agree with you.
Oh boy, you sound like a text-book narcissist. And like most narcissists you're unable to understand that you are one.
I feel for the guy/cats that you'll end up with.
empathy=zero. not only everything she said revolved around herself. she didn't even fathom he could have a cush on her and be nervous around her or something... .
It doesn't matter who asked who out. You're not a child or being held against your will, pay for yourself.
If you can't pay for your own food then that's your own personal problem. Don't expect your date to pay for you, especially if it's the first date. Don't really care about the rest.
These are basic things in all honesty.
There are more "finer" details which girls look out for.
For example, "agreeing to everything she says" is a major turn off which is a sign of desperation.
Not even twins agree on everythjng