I wouldn't be so happy "sexually liberated." The pursuit of pleasure is tempting, but don't follow it. Men shouldn't do it either, and I am pleading with you, promiscuity won't make you any happier as you think it might
Im stuck on #5... you don't know how to pick decent men... that seems like the epicenter of your whole post... like it was said in "Coming To America"..."you gotta give him a chance"... you seem to (like my friend) think sex is a way, (and it is) that you can get a guy, but its not long term... long term is to learn the game darling. Know you are playing the game without trying, then just... break the rules
Nothing wrong being single. Me, I am 50/50. Meaning-I feel lonely sometimes thing alright single. Single you have more time on your own. More hobbies, working alone, more money in your bank. No one screwing your apartment/home, etc.
You will work your own self out! In the meantime, my unattractive self will painfully search for that one girl I am waiting to give my sex to, who just so happens to find me physically attractive! I can wait for sex, it is called celibacy and some men are capable of doing it, with pride!
Hit the nail on the head @Browneye57 and her cognitive dissonance kicks into overdrive.
Instead of fighting @Browneye57's observations why doesn't the author research solipsism, learn from their mistake, and chock it up to a learning experience?
The real reason you are single is due to not realizing that a relationship involves another person, someone with their own experiences that partner with hers. As much as women have their choice, men also have theirs and if you aren't attracting good men because you are so one sided then good luck trying to pick a decent mate from a pool of second options.
TL;DR: By being so self centered you alienate the potential partners you so desperately want to attract.
I never said I wanted perfect. I'm not perfect. I have a big nose. I live at home with my mom. I work at a shitty job. I'm self concious. I hold grudges. I over think things. I'm a procrastinator. I cry when I'm mad or frustrated. But I am loyal, even if he is just a sexual partner, honest, and making efforts to better myself instead of expecting someone to hold my hand.
2 reasons why i'm single... 1 ) I'm a FT working single dad , which means do not have the money & time to go dating , also I am aware next to no women will choose a man with baggage , when they have plenty of other options. 2 ) I have simply lost the desire to do so , crave my " me " time & am not that fond of people in general , my BS tolerance is too low. Most single women are single by choice , from the feedback from my female friends , men are ten a penny !!
So you admit that you're easy, have a high sexual count, and are looking for decent good looking men... you will at some point have to accept that such men won't really date you as you've probably figured already
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Lol. I didn't say any of that. I said, if I want sex, I will get it, without the shame attached to women who want sex outside of a committed relationship. Complete difference. And no, I have not slept with a million people. For clarification, I've have two friends with benefits experiences. =)
And since we're going to go there, just about most the men who do want relationships aren't relationship material because most of you aren't attractive anyway. Maybe us women would come to you guys if you had your lives together. =)
you're saying that men and women are the same, dont play that game it already proved wrong for you, the same guys who you opened your legs for have called you a hoe and avoided dating you, you know more than anyone that we dont have the same standards and men and women have two different games.
and do you know me? do you know anything about me? why do you even think iam not attractive or relationship material? iam doing more than fine with the ladies in fact usually women are the ones who approach me, i never had a problem there i actually have options i get to have my own standards something most men can't but i can because women want me.
And the problem with those men is that they're hypocrites! You can't defend hypocrites. THEY HAD SEX WITH ME TOO.
You don't know shit about me either, but you're basing my whole life on the fact that I decided to have sex outside of a relationship. You need to chill out. Don't want to be judged? Don't do it yourself.
theyre hypocrites? lol how did that work for you? please tell me how did calling them hypocrites or hating on them work when they flat out rejected you for being easy, words mean nothing actions do, all men i know will flirt with you and act like your prince charming, once they wet their dick its over and they are off to the next chick and at the end they find a nice virgin girl and marry her because she is happy being with an experienced man, but an experienced man does not want an experienced woman because he know what kind of things she's been through to actually gain that experience.
if the woman wants sex two and she's offering then the man is not doing anything wrong, the consequences though... for men its almost non existent but for women there are some serious ones, why? cause as a woman all you have to do is ask, as a man even if iam super hot i still have to put some considerable effort to get a girl to have sex with me so why would we like it when a woman is experienced? i can easily teach a virgin girl sex, so why bother being with another woman who had a lot of wild sex before meeting me? doesn't make since from a mans point of view, to you its cool since you like exprienced men but we dont like such women.
there are logical reasons but most men dont even care to explain or know them, all they know is that they hate easy and slutty women, and some just want virgins, it may not make sense to you but you can't do anything about it like literally there is nothing you say that can change how a man thinks.
I don't know what you are talking about Z-Spark. I have been with an inexperienced woman and the sex wasn't anything special. I would much rather have an enthusiastic sexually liberated and experienced woman as my life partner. Just because she has slept around in the past doesn't mean she won't want to settle down with you. Just because she has had multiple relationships, doesn't mean you won't be her last.
Guys need to be more secure in relationships and women need to not be so fickle.
@freakyzeaky you're a cuck and its cool, all these hoes will eventually need some guy to marry them and you seem cool with it , nothing wrong with taking one for the team.
Don't come at him for telling you the truth. What you said makes no sense. What about women who don't have luck with men? What about men who are so attractive and women fall into their lap?
You need to get your head out of your ass and really think about what you're saying.
Dude, you can tell if a woman is a nympho who has no intention of settling down, or a woman who had a few flings or friends with benefits. It is a rarity in modern Western society to come across a woman who is a complete virgin at my age and I don't want a woman with no experience because they don't know how to have the proper attitude in the bedroom.
Cal me a cuck if you like, but if a man pleases his woman he should be so insecure as to be paranoid about whether or not she is going to screw around behind his back.
You're wasting your time talking to him. I'm positive he has some sort of mental disorder. You can tell by the way he responds to people. It's clear he doesn't even read what you write or his reading comprehension skill are SEVERELY lacking. You never once said you have a high sexual count. He just assumed that. In fact you even said you don't date that much. He likely read the headline "I'm sexually liberated" and took that as "I sleep around" without even reading the rest. Probably skimmed over your take and took out the parts that fit his preconceived notions. He also thought you were calling him unattractive when what you said was "men in general who want relationships". He took the "most of you" to mean him, when you meant those guys. I find that people online often use the word "you" when they don't literally mean the person they are talking to. You may have but you don't know if he's one of those guys. Any rationally thinking person would get this. Clear cognitive dysfunction.
No.4. is my thing too... It's definitely true - it's weird that adults still expect others to hold their hand and mother them... that's not how adulthood works.
i list my reasons now soooo... : Im not good looking enuff people i meet have to many friends already i dont have friends or a job or a course i dont have a social life im not attracted to the rare few that look at me. i never seem to be around enuff women that i deem attractive to me.
Only a normal young woman who think will be youg and hot forever. Im sorry only about 22yo young guys in this age they are stupid, naive, slow and broked. They (in general) don't have no chance against girls of the same age.
2... "I have guys who are interested in me, but I don't want to go out with them because I'm not physically attracted to them. "
There is nothing wrong with that. Everyone only stays with who is attracted.
P. S - This topic could be linked to the "Cuck" topic of "Quit Blaming Feminism for Your Failures and Lack of Success With Women. You're The Problem, Not Them..." Would be interesting...
LOL, someone give this girl a cookie! She's managed to sum up in one concise sentence, why I will never marry, never cohabit, and never commit to any woman, or raise a family. Well done!
Sex is a very primitive need to be satisfied in terms of psychology. It is at the same level with sleep, eating etc. How do people feel the need to shame others based on their sex life and sexual choices is beyond me.
@lyannamormont Very true. I think many men are just envious of the ability of decently attractive women of having no-strings-attached sex. For men, it is usually feast or famine. Either the guy has that charm and is able to create the "spark" of attraction that women require or they can't. It is a personality thing, which of course leads to men taking it as a hit to their own ego, thinking there is something wrong with them, and which leads to bitterness, despair, and spirals downward from there. For women who can't get go out and find men to have some sexual fun, it usually comes down to being well below average attractiveness and usually requires some major lowering of standards, which for women doesn't cut it because of how specific their requirements are for pleasure (ejaculation vs. feelings/foreplay/technique).
@lyannamormont It's not always about shaming, it can be simply sexual incompatibility. Here is an example, although I don't agree with ghosting. https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e62166fc8/42479.png
It's just another bullshit guys make up. Most guys I know have already fucked the world and wait for a virgin woman. What this Mark guy does is the same. It's OK for him to be with many people, I assume he would not make a big deal because he is a guy, but when a woman has become with more than 10 people, everybody starts calling her slut. Yeah, sure. of course.
The main issue in that story was that she wasn't upfront about her sexual experience. Ideally she would hope the guy wouldn't care, but regardless of whether she sees it as petty or not, if the guy doesn't want to date a woman with lots of flings in her past, he has the right to move on. She probably should of revealed it before he found out; maybe he would of been more understanding, who knows.
@lyannamormont I have only had three sexual partners. 1 was a bad mistake (she was a depressive wreck who was lonely and just wanted my attention), and another was a friends with benefits that didn't last long.
No, not all guys are charmers who have tons of sexual fun. Even though the statistics say men have more partners on average, I am thinking that is skewed due to the very small percentage of men who actually sleep with tons of women. I would guess most women have more partners, especially now-a-days. It is just much easier for women to let men hit on them and accept or decline.
Also just because a person has had more partners or more sex, doesn't mean all of those encounters were good. There is such a thing as bad sex and regret you know.
I just can't be bothered to put in the effort. People are so incredibly boring. It's all small talk about crossfit or lifting or sports. I do not fucking care. You know?
8. everything , everyone can change minutes by minutes , modern women should not expect much in a couple life, 9. single is better no one can hurt you.
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no. you won't find someone who will like that. and you are not liberated just hoey. but hey, noone is perfect.
That makes sense. I Guess you just don't want a stable relationship then. But every choice we make leaves a scar. When you're content with it then there are no issues.
If that's so then refer to what @btbc92 said (without refraining from sex until marriage. You have sex when you feel like it while being unmarried) and work on yourself first because believe it or not but you are technically not ready for a stable relationship.
Work on your own issues first and get yourself sorted.
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I wouldn't be so happy "sexually liberated." The pursuit of pleasure is tempting, but don't follow it. Men shouldn't do it either, and I am pleading with you, promiscuity won't make you any happier as you think it might
Im stuck on #5... you don't know how to pick decent men... that seems like the epicenter of your whole post...
like it was said in "Coming To America"..."you gotta give him a chance"...
you seem to (like my friend) think sex is a way, (and it is) that you can get a guy, but its not long term... long term is to learn the game darling.
Know you are playing the game without trying, then just... break the rules
Nothing wrong being single. Me, I am 50/50. Meaning-I feel lonely sometimes thing alright single. Single you have more time on your own. More hobbies, working alone, more money in your bank. No one screwing your apartment/home, etc.
You will work your own self out! In the meantime, my unattractive self will painfully search for that one girl I am waiting to give my sex to, who just so happens to find me physically attractive! I can wait for sex, it is called celibacy and some men are capable of doing it, with pride!
Hit the nail on the head @Browneye57 and her cognitive dissonance kicks into overdrive.
Instead of fighting @Browneye57's observations why doesn't the author research solipsism, learn from their mistake, and chock it up to a learning experience?
The real reason you are single is due to not realizing that a relationship involves another person, someone with their own experiences that partner with hers. As much as women have their choice, men also have theirs and if you aren't attracting good men because you are so one sided then good luck trying to pick a decent mate from a pool of second options.
TL;DR: By being so self centered you alienate the potential partners you so desperately want to attract.
I don't see what makes me self centered.
You expect perfection yet want utter compromise when it comes to your affairs. Essentially you want a slave.
I never said I wanted perfect. I'm not perfect. I have a big nose. I live at home with my mom. I work at a shitty job. I'm self concious. I hold grudges. I over think things. I'm a procrastinator. I cry when I'm mad or frustrated. But I am loyal, even if he is just a sexual partner, honest, and making efforts to better myself instead of expecting someone to hold my hand.
2 reasons why i'm single...
1 ) I'm a FT working single dad , which means do not have the money & time to go dating , also I am aware next to no women will choose a man with baggage , when they have plenty of other options.
2 ) I have simply lost the desire to do so , crave my " me " time & am not that fond of people in general , my BS tolerance is too low.
Most single women are single by choice , from the feedback from my female friends , men are ten a penny !!
So you admit that you're easy, have a high sexual count, and are looking for decent good looking men... you will at some point have to accept that such men won't really date you as you've probably figured already
Lol. I didn't say any of that. I said, if I want sex, I will get it, without the shame attached to women who want sex outside of a committed relationship. Complete difference. And no, I have not slept with a million people. For clarification, I've have two friends with benefits experiences. =)
doesn't matter friends with benefits to 99% of men means she's not relationship material
That means 99% of men aren't relationship material either.
And since we're going to go there, just about most the men who do want relationships aren't relationship material because most of you aren't attractive anyway. Maybe us women would come to you guys if you had your lives together. =)
you're saying that men and women are the same, dont play that game it already proved wrong for you, the same guys who you opened your legs for have called you a hoe and avoided dating you, you know more than anyone that we dont have the same standards and men and women have two different games.
and do you know me? do you know anything about me? why do you even think iam not attractive or relationship material? iam doing more than fine with the ladies in fact usually women are the ones who approach me, i never had a problem there i actually have options i get to have my own standards something most men can't but i can because women want me.
And the problem with those men is that they're hypocrites! You can't defend hypocrites. THEY HAD SEX WITH ME TOO.
You don't know shit about me either, but you're basing my whole life on the fact that I decided to have sex outside of a relationship. You need to chill out. Don't want to be judged? Don't do it yourself.
theyre hypocrites? lol how did that work for you? please tell me how did calling them hypocrites or hating on them work when they flat out rejected you for being easy, words mean nothing actions do, all men i know will flirt with you and act like your prince charming, once they wet their dick its over and they are off to the next chick and at the end they find a nice virgin girl and marry her because she is happy being with an experienced man, but an experienced man does not want an experienced woman because he know what kind of things she's been through to actually gain that experience.
Okay you make absolutely no fucking sense.
Women are happy with an experienced man.
Men are not happy with experienced women.
Both experienced men and women did the same things to become experienced.
How the fuck does that man the woman easy and the man, just a regular man? You think using a woman for sex is okay?
if the woman wants sex two and she's offering then the man is not doing anything wrong, the consequences though... for men its almost non existent but for women there are some serious ones, why? cause as a woman all you have to do is ask, as a man even if iam super hot i still have to put some considerable effort to get a girl to have sex with me so why would we like it when a woman is experienced? i can easily teach a virgin girl sex, so why bother being with another woman who had a lot of wild sex before meeting me? doesn't make since from a mans point of view, to you its cool since you like exprienced men but we dont like such women.
there are logical reasons but most men dont even care to explain or know them, all they know is that they hate easy and slutty women, and some just want virgins, it may not make sense to you but you can't do anything about it like literally there is nothing you say that can change how a man thinks.
I don't know what you are talking about Z-Spark. I have been with an inexperienced woman and the sex wasn't anything special. I would much rather have an enthusiastic sexually liberated and experienced woman as my life partner. Just because she has slept around in the past doesn't mean she won't want to settle down with you. Just because she has had multiple relationships, doesn't mean you won't be her last.
Guys need to be more secure in relationships and women need to not be so fickle.
@freakyzeaky you're a cuck and its cool, all these hoes will eventually need some guy to marry them and you seem cool with it , nothing wrong with taking one for the team.
Don't come at him for telling you the truth. What you said makes no sense. What about women who don't have luck with men? What about men who are so attractive and women fall into their lap?
You need to get your head out of your ass and really think about what you're saying.
Dude, you can tell if a woman is a nympho who has no intention of settling down, or a woman who had a few flings or friends with benefits. It is a rarity in modern Western society to come across a woman who is a complete virgin at my age and I don't want a woman with no experience because they don't know how to have the proper attitude in the bedroom.
Cal me a cuck if you like, but if a man pleases his woman he should be so insecure as to be paranoid about whether or not she is going to screw around behind his back.
You're wasting your time talking to him. I'm positive he has some sort of mental disorder. You can tell by the way he responds to people. It's clear he doesn't even read what you write or his reading comprehension skill are SEVERELY lacking. You never once said you have a high sexual count. He just assumed that. In fact you even said you don't date that much. He likely read the headline "I'm sexually liberated" and took that as "I sleep around" without even reading the rest. Probably skimmed over your take and took out the parts that fit his preconceived notions. He also thought you were calling him unattractive when what you said was "men in general who want relationships". He took the "most of you" to mean him, when you meant those guys. I find that people online often use the word "you" when they don't literally mean the person they are talking to. You may have but you don't know if he's one of those guys. Any rationally thinking person would get this. Clear cognitive dysfunction.
No.4. is my thing too...
It's definitely true - it's weird that adults still expect others to hold their hand and mother them... that's not how adulthood works.
reasons why I'm single:
1. I'm too content with my life to give a damn about sharing it with someone else.
i list my reasons now soooo... :
Im not good looking enuff
people i meet have to many friends already
i dont have friends or a job or a course
i dont have a social life
im not attracted to the rare few that look at me.
i never seem to be around enuff women that i deem attractive to me.
Only a normal young woman who think will be youg and hot forever. Im sorry only about 22yo young guys in this age they are stupid, naive, slow and broked. They (in general) don't have no chance against girls of the same age.
2... "I have guys who are interested in me, but I don't want to go out with them because I'm not physically attracted to them. "
There is nothing wrong with that. Everyone only stays with who is attracted.
P. S - This topic could be linked to the "Cuck" topic of "Quit Blaming Feminism for Your Failures and Lack of Success With Women. You're The Problem, Not Them..." Would be interesting...
Fair play to that bro from #1.
We ain't about those 'sexually liberated' women AKA sluts.
If you ever meet that dude, let him know some random stranger on the internet appreciates what he does.
What makes me a slut?
''I'm sexually liberated.''
LOL, someone give this girl a cookie! She's managed to sum up in one concise sentence, why I will never marry, never cohabit, and never commit to any woman, or raise a family. Well done!
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That's pretty sad.
I'm sorry you feel that way
It is what it is.
Sex is a very primitive need to be satisfied in terms of psychology. It is at the same level with sleep, eating etc. How do people feel the need to shame others based on their sex life and sexual choices is beyond me.
@lyannamormont Very true. I think many men are just envious of the ability of decently attractive women of having no-strings-attached sex. For men, it is usually feast or famine. Either the guy has that charm and is able to create the "spark" of attraction that women require or they can't. It is a personality thing, which of course leads to men taking it as a hit to their own ego, thinking there is something wrong with them, and which leads to bitterness, despair, and spirals downward from there. For women who can't get go out and find men to have some sexual fun, it usually comes down to being well below average attractiveness and usually requires some major lowering of standards, which for women doesn't cut it because of how specific their requirements are for pleasure (ejaculation vs. feelings/foreplay/technique).
@lyannamormont It's not always about shaming, it can be simply sexual incompatibility. Here is an example, although I don't agree with ghosting. https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e62166fc8/42479.png
It's just another bullshit guys make up. Most guys I know have already fucked the world and wait for a virgin woman. What this Mark guy does is the same. It's OK for him to be with many people, I assume he would not make a big deal because he is a guy, but when a woman has become with more than 10 people, everybody starts calling her slut. Yeah, sure. of course.
She didn't sleep around and then come to him for a relationship. She just hadn't met him yet. Was she supposed to wait around this guy?
The main issue in that story was that she wasn't upfront about her sexual experience. Ideally she would hope the guy wouldn't care, but regardless of whether she sees it as petty or not, if the guy doesn't want to date a woman with lots of flings in her past, he has the right to move on. She probably should of revealed it before he found out; maybe he would of been more understanding, who knows.
@lyannamormont I have only had three sexual partners. 1 was a bad mistake (she was a depressive wreck who was lonely and just wanted my attention), and another was a friends with benefits that didn't last long.
No, not all guys are charmers who have tons of sexual fun. Even though the statistics say men have more partners on average, I am thinking that is skewed due to the very small percentage of men who actually sleep with tons of women. I would guess most women have more partners, especially now-a-days. It is just much easier for women to let men hit on them and accept or decline.
Also just because a person has had more partners or more sex, doesn't mean all of those encounters were good. There is such a thing as bad sex and regret you know.
@lyannamormont The girl in that post clearly stated that Mark was a wholesome guy... since she knows him, we can only take her word for it.
Yeah for sure when it comes to a woman sleeping around, men suddenly become wholesome or give the impression that they are wholesome.
i'm single cause i'm afraid of something i have no clue about. whether it be insecurities or scared of commitment
that makes no sense, go drink milk
I just can't be bothered to put in the effort. People are so incredibly boring. It's all small talk about crossfit or lifting or sports. I do not fucking care. You know?
8. everything , everyone can change minutes by minutes , modern women should not expect much in a couple life,
9. single is better no one can hurt you.
no. you won't find someone who will like that. and you are not liberated just hoey. but hey, noone is perfect.
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That makes sense. I Guess you just don't want a stable relationship then.
But every choice we make leaves a scar.
When you're content with it then there are no issues.
I want a stable relationship.
If that's so then refer to what @btbc92 said (without refraining from sex until marriage. You have sex when you feel like it while being unmarried) and work on yourself first because believe it or not but you are technically not ready for a stable relationship.
Work on your own issues first and get yourself sorted.
Or what about ur single because u choose to be? No man is for u at the moment