Why Guys Can't (WONT) Get A Girl Anymore

[Tdieseler]

This is kind of response to my friend @Wowgirl30q 's article

Why Guys Can't Get a Girl Anymore

After I wrote this, i realized how long this was, but its a captivating read (i hope).
Disclaimer: I know there is going to be some blow-back. So i'm going to state upfront to the women, that I wrote this FOR THE GUYS. The ones that actually go through the shit, this is OUR perspective, and its well known knowledge that it is a perspective most women DON'T care for or about. If, as a woman, you see some of this happen (or do it), then im glad we still have some of you with sense around, because i know this does not apply to ALL girls/women. As for those that dont understand it or want to belittle...Let me make it easy for you, cuz i already know what you are going to say. its always the same untrue bullshit because i never included my stories in this. So here goes:

Yes, im bitter, yes, someone broke my heart, yes i hate women,oooh, yes I've been rejected by every girl on the planet...and... yes i (insert whatever accusation/assumption you have here), then please happily click another link. ✌😁😒

Whoo this is long.

Requirements:

Men like nice cars, not because men like nice cars but because Women like nice cars -Dave Chapelle

The requirements are sometimes overwhelming. Its fine to want an Independent person that owns their own stuff, but if you dont own your own stuff as well, take that out of your greedy requirement list. The requirements are getting outrageous, even to where height and eye color is now a factor. I once stumbled unto some girl talk where a girl wanted all these material things, he had to have his own house/place, not just a car but a NEWER nice car, and either made a lot of money or owned a business. Funny fact...i was at a burger king and she was behind the register, as the story went on, turns out, she stayed with her mom, had 2 kids her mom was helping her take care of, and she used the bus. As i walked away after getting my order, i gave her the biggest smile i could muster and said "honey, if you ever run into that man...dollars to donuts, he will not want YOU". If you ain't got it, be quiet. It may seem like im harping on the material things, that's because its true, and they forget that those things come with a Person...with feelings and emotions. Requirements first lol.

Halfway thinking/ignorance

We all miss the big picture sometimes dont we?

This is another HUGE problem in the dating world. and this encompasses everything. Many, if not all women dont seem to think things through when dating or about to date him. They seem (seem) to only think in the NOW...which is fine if you just want to do things now. As i mentioned earlier about requirements, I personally noticed a few things missing. For example, what is his personality like? he could be a psycho (like me 😈 ). what about his family, his friends? Is his money legit/legal? ecetera, ecetera, ecetera. Thats why in most relationships its WOMEN that try to "change" the man AFTER the fact. Because at the beginning, they didn't think it through (the men dont either lol but thats ok, at least we admit we are dumb). Women tend to ignore negatives hoping to "fix" it later. They only see what they want At That Moment and sometimes, if not most times, it comes to bite them in the butt later. So he has the requirements, but he is always verbally and sometimes physically abusive...how good are those requirements now. Women, you can see material/surface shit quickly, but personality is where you want to be at.

Oh she still won't date him, I dont see a car or cash anywhere... do you?

You were attracted to the surface shit, and when the underside showed, now you want to "change" him. Meanwhile you had a nice guy approach you, you had a nice time in the few moments you spent together, before he left but because his clothes were not designer and he took the bus, no chance, you decided to go for the one that turned out to be an abusive heroin addict/dealer lol. (not always, but true story)

Diggers

Men can ALWAYS tell when a woman is just a gold digger (even if she doesn't think she is),

Gold Digger: Definition: A woman who associates with a man for material gain. (sometimes even if she has her own, them are the worst)

Money WAS one of the requirements....

But what can you do if damn near all the women you meet have material "requirements". I can understand her wanting an independent man, but are YOU an independent woman?. when i heard the requirement "...must have a lot of money"..my mind went, to spend on you..right? Its one thing to want security, and another to just be a gold digger. One of the worst things i ever heard was..."i ain't dating no man that can't pay my rent"...oh another harsh one "aint dating no man that can't take care of me and my kids"...omg...i fell out laughing on that second one. And HER kids...i want to see the moron that bites this bullet.
Im not saying its bad to have some requirements or standards, im saying dont let it be some deciding factor, especially if you can't produce the same. If he doesn't have his own place, and you dont either, you can both come together and get one. Once you make it one sided only, dont get mad that you are assumed to be a gold digger.

Hmm..I've always wondered what it would be called if its the man that associates with the woman for material gain...hmm.

Greed:

There was a while when i heard it was men that were...what was that word...Thirsty? Well, now it seems to have changed. This is something I've been itching to say since the beginning of this article, it goes back to the "Halfway Thinking/Ignorance" part. Women, when you make that list of requirements, do you think YOU are the only one who has that list of requirements? In Diggers, i said "...when damn near all the women you meet.."...meaning its NOT just you. So if you want it, guess what? so do other women..INCLUDING people you know.

Leaving this....

For this....

Now you just made yourself an option and in order to keep this fine gentleman that has all your requirements, you are going to have to work a Lot harder to keep that focus on you. Because one slip, and he's going on to the next one. You wondered why men leave? there you have it. He fulfilled ALL your requirements and you fulfilled what? one or two of his? sometimes none? (do women even ask? oh wait..they dont care). I believe that is Sugar Daddy status lol. Why satisfy you, and you can't do the same?, someone else may.

Belittling:

Notice how i say "most" men. Cuz some men like this.

This is something most men can't stand and today's women tend to do it a lot. Belittling a man until when she needs a man. So he doesn't have all the requirements you want in a man, doesn't mean you should shit on him either. It first of all started with women not wanting to stroke a man's ego, now they just shit on guys. But Yet, they want things from him. A real woman builds a man up, and when he feels like a man, he acts like a man in every way. If you belittle and shit on him all the time over some requirement that he can STILL attain...well...fault is on you.

No give:

This is mostly felt on the guy side of things, most guys can attest to the fact that today's women, just want to take take take take take. At some point, we get tired of giving. Today's women attest that they give a lot as well...im yet to see what. I've heard they give love...i said, them are words. They say they give attention...I say AFTER the guy asks for it or if they want something. The list goes on. Women tend to want material stuff(oh and emotional stuff) but tend to give only emotions back... Luckily...i know very many women who spoil their men materialistically too, so thank Heavens that those exist, because its tiresome to pay for everything, just to get words back. Goes back to why i said, dont have requirements if you can't produce the same. Thought we were all equal.

Fasten your seat belts...

During the Actual Dates : Women have harped about this so many times and absolutely hate men (like me) who refuse to pay for dates and prefer to go half and half.According Wowgirl30q 's article, makes them seem cheap right? I say it makes them smart. Goes back to my Halfway thinking topic. Do you think YOU are the only one he has gone on a date with? So when a guy says he would prefer to split...you see cheap, but he probably has had a couple of dates already and believe me, the stuff piles up because each girl wants that First date to be like spectacular, i mean why not, its not coming out of your fucking pocket. Reminds me of that one girl that said "I always say yes to dates, i get to enjoy myself and eat for free"...wow, im glad she got cussed out BY other females. To put it simply, he isn't a fucking walking bank.

Now, I've heard women say:

Hehe

"if he asked her out, he should pay for it"... agreed, thats why i personally dont "ask out" anymore lol, i suggest or go somewhere money ain't involved.
"If he won't pay for me, he is not worth my time"...agreed, now go back to the street corner where you can find one that will
"I agree that she should pay her half, so she owes him nothing"... agreed, but are you admitting that if he pays she DOES owe him something? 😁😒 (i found this one especially funny, it is when you look how entitled many women act)
I dont pay for dates if there is no label. I'd pay for my gf/wife, but im not paying for some Random, i'd rather give it to the homeless. I'd be doing some good that way. After its official..i do what every man WANTS to do...pay for his woman.

If you made it this far...

Sex-pectations:

Im going to say this again just to rile the women up lol..(personal pleasure 😎 ).. I once said

"All women (recent events have made me change that to 'most') most women are prostitutes, the only difference between those who are actual prostitutes and the average woman is Time."

That's when i get asked/told "why do you think that, Diesel?". Its simple, if you got this far in this boring article...all you have seen is women making demands and having requirements. To add to that, just to spend time with her, you still gotta shell out ( and over a period of time)even after satisfying ALL the previous requirements...hmm...in what other situation does that happen?

🤔🤔🤔🤔 hmm

Men go through all that for sex, and this ain't news to women, so they pile on the payments, "no sex until the 10th date, but you must pay for every date" lol. And then when he disappears after the sex, she goes "oh he just wanted sex". No honey, YOU made it about sex. He wanted YOU. Then you put parameter on it. I once told women to flip the script, if you think your date wants sex, then fucking do it. maybe not on the first date, but soon. And if he keeps coming around...you are good. If not, then good riddance.

BYE.

But when men hear all the requirements just to achieve 30 mins of what we want...its a fucking turn off and he either doesn't want to do it, hence the reason why he walks away or won't even ask her out, OR he'll do it, get his, then find someone else that just...isn't...like...that.

Just a little tidbit on my side, a saying i kinda questioned. They say women can tell within the first few seconds if she will have sex with a guy...that's fine and dandy. BUT their mistake is that,

you can't tell if a guy is date worthy, wants you for real, and is a good guy,etc, within the first few seconds. Even with female intuition, you still can't. Gotta get to know them first.

Guys would run after a girl with a cute face and a sexy body, but what happens when they find out she is just an assuming greedy woman? they leave. So maybe it ain't your perfect guy up front...but don't forget, looks and materials fade, but that personality and character is forever.

My Side
Now to personalize, I see things like this happen around me all the time and it makes me (and possibly other guys) very skeptical about dating. Can i just jump in anyway?...Yes (and i have, and regretted it...met pretty much all of them except that mythical "good girl" lol). But I don't think i can handle the headache of noticing all this happening to me. Women would say that maybe just because a man doesn't want to put up with it, it makes him less of a man. didn't bother me at all because SHE isn't a man, all she can do is "belittle". But a man WOULD do something about it...So I rewrote this bullshit dating requirements and system and absolutely refuse to date anyone that won't go with (or at least try) the new system because it bring equality to Both parties. Yup, equality (yes, its tested,it works fine) . I hope to write an article on it one day. So its not like Guys can't get girls...sometimes, we just dont want to. And those that do "get" girls, have made a conscientious decision to put up with all the above shit because of some agenda their devious minds have.
May God help their souls. lol.

Thanks for Reading.

Guys please point out areas where i may have been wrong or right...Ladies..as much as i'd like to say i dont give a fuck about your opinions...i actually do, because i may be misinterpreting or exaggerating some (a lot of) stuff. So if you have reasons as to why some women do these things happen, please, share with the class.

P.S. I reread this article so many times before i posted, I never went through most of this stuff..and with the DDS, i'll probably never go through it...but i see it around me, my brother, my buddies, coworkers, strangers ...and it hurts me (you know, for my fellow men that can't stick up for themselves).

[BigJake]

A big part of the problem stems from the differences in how boys and girls are raised. Girls are raised to believe they are of high value solely by virtue of existing, without having to produce anything of merit. By contrast, boys are raised to believe that we must contribute something of high value in order for us to be considered valuable by society. This leads girls to believe that they are entitled to a broad slate of valuable attributes in a mate, even when they themselves bring little to the table. Thus the reason girls have long lists of "musts" for the guy they want, while guys mostly are happy to have a somewhat attractive girl who isn't an asshole.

[Tdieseler]

i dont even think i could have phrased this any better myself... i mean, there is more to it... but this is the introduction... and well put at that.

[MrOracle]

There's some truth in what you've written, but a lot of your issues are a lack of confidence and directness.

1. Don't plan early dates where you spend money, or beyond what you consider "minimal" money. Go for a walk, or a bike ride, or walk around a mall, or see some free show or exhibit or event in your area. Early dates are for talking and getting to know a girl, not about spending money to entertain her. Not only will she probably enjoy this type of date as much or more as the others, but you are setting a precedent that you aren't trying to use money to get her. You also easily identify gold diggers this way.

2. Don't be afraid to say "no" to a girl. You don't need to get into some huge drama about it or make it about every bad thing you've ever experienced, just say "no." Most women will actually respect you more if you say "no" to them, because most guys won't.

3. Stop worrying about "what you need" financially, and win over girls with your personality. Once a girl likes you, most of that other crap won't matter to her.

I understand the bitterness, but you need to accept that much of it is your own responsibility. You can try to play the game by BS rules, or you can understand that it is YOU who is choosing to apply those rules to yourself. Simply choose differently, and most of the crap you are wound up about goes away. Sure, there will be some crappy girls who want a Ferrari lifestyle when they barely deserve a scooter lifestyle, but you simply pass on those girls and move on (and, maybe, fish in better bodies of water, where you're more likely to catch the kinds of fish you are after). Don't get all bent out of shape and bitter, because that's not attractive on anyone.

[coachTanthony]

Good read my man! The expectations are high in 2019.

Theyr'e called the six 6's!

1) At least a six-figure salary.
2) At least six-feet tall.
3) Drives a 600 horsepower car.
4) Has a six-pack abdomen.
5) At least six months since his last relationship. At a minimum.
6) At least six inches below the belt.

[Alfie_Solomons]

Anthony, any guy who lives his life to meet requirements just for women just is pathetic in my opinion. I hate girls and I'm lucky because of that.

[coachTanthony]

@Alfie_Solomons I agree but doesn't mean you have to hate girls!

[Alfie_Solomons]

No I do hate girls. I just gotta accept it.

[coachTanthony]

@Alfie_Solomons Okay lol You do what you gotta do my man!

[westwordbound]

Funny I’m 5 out 6 on your list and I still struggle

[Tdieseler]

@westwordbound Im 3 out of that list and i do amazing.

HEY COACH!!! as always... you spit some real shit... this one is a bit excessive but you coined it right... six sixes... thats kinda hot... i gotta use that. im still rocking of the 3 C's

[Tdieseler]

The kid is starting early to see female bullshit... what i see wrong... is that he never hurt a few...

[DevylasArsaukas76]

or maybe they should be more down to earth about it and not ask for the kingdom when it comes to dating, a peasant doesn't get the crown by demanding it

[westwordbound]

I make six digits, own a house, got all my hair, still got visible abs (but I’m skinny/cut), I’m a seven incher, I’m 6ft tall.

BUT I don’t have time to bullshit at bars and social gatherings all the time. I’m very busy with work. I do dating apps but it’s not like I list all those above (especially money) for obvious purposes. I’ll be lucky to get 2 or 3 matches a week despite swiping hundreds of girls.

[coachTanthony]

@westwordbound Your photos suck! Spend some money and get some taken. You will have more women then you can handle.

[Tdieseler]

@westwordbound BAM!!! This is why i love @coachTanthony just right on that fucking point. I mean, i can see why you making your money Westword... but Anthony just dropped it, use some of that money and get decent pictures to put online. I dont make six... yet, but i dont even go online... im the idiot that thinks a cold approach and walking up to a girl still works... im keeping hope alive.
I have online accounts... i never go on there

[Silver158]

Well I got the last 2 down so that's something lol

[Passinggas]

Substituting #3 with a high torque tractor, I have all these but I don’t want the prize. So the “the six 6's” mean nothing to me.

[mayur955]

Yeah. Tall is the requirement😂😂.
I've observed there is too much difference in their height.
A guy looks like a giraffe & girl looks like dog🤣🤣.

[R_Cakes91]

Every once in a while I’ll meet a chick with these expectations in and I’m “so what the fuck so you drive?” Haha and it’s like a 1996 Honda Civic or some bearer... and she has no job... and lives with her parents 😆

[R_Cakes91]

Beater*

[westwordbound]

You are actually right. My abs are really visible right now too because I haven’t been eating much due to stress (but I still do cardio). I need new photos.

[coachTanthony]

@westwordbound I tell all my clients to jump on FB and befriend some photographers in the local area. Chat them up and ask them if they do "mini shoots." They are usually around 100 bucks or so... makes my job super easy because 90% of a man's profile is whether or not his photos are clear and do they stand out from all the rest.

[westwordbound]

I got a close female friend who is an excellent photographer. She got me modeling work in my 20s.

I know my abs look great for my age. I just feel weird about looking vain to girls. But who knows

[coachTanthony]

@westwordbound If you are going to show your abs make sure you are playing a sport. An action photo allows you to get away with showing off the hard work from the gym without overly bragging.

[westwordbound]

I used to be a fighter so that was easy. But the only way I can do this now is lifting weights or something.

[coachTanthony]

@westwordbound Grab a volley ball and get your photographer friend to shoot you coming off the court... or tennis is great too! Just don't pose for the photo... be looking away. Works like a charm.

[frostwalrus]

@Alfie_Solomons I feel the same. Men seem to have been bred and groomed to be slaves for women. They'll spend their entire existence climbing the latter of the meaningless rat race all to impress some vapid women. Their sense of self-worth is derived entirely from female validation. While men are just fucking pathetic, women are utterly revolting. Some women are cool, but basic women are the worst. They seem to have evolved parasitically off of men. Because of the parasitism, they never learned the value of hard work and dedication and they can never understand or appreciate a man's sacrifice. They ultimately only see the majority of men as utility. Their egotism, their sense of entitlement, their solipsistic tendencies are insufferable. I used to think there was something wrong with me for having these views (as a gynocentric society would have you believe). But in truth, any sane man who really cares about personal character, who despises barbarity and unfairness anywhere in the world, who places a high priority self-respect, would very reasonably arrive at these views. As it stands, we are destined to be the whipping boys of our era, but I'm confident that history will eventually prove us right.

[mayur955]

True.

[westwordbound]

@frostwalrus this is why I completely turned my back on liberal ideals around your age. I was seeing what was happening.

With that said I think there is a growing minority of women who are smart to understand what’s happening. They sometimes speak out against the crap, but they need to speak up more if we have any chance of righting the course.

[ChronicThinker]

Sounds like a bunch of excuses made by somebody who can't accept that maybe they may have some roll to play in why women don't want them. Total avoidance and self delusion is pretty typically for this type of stuff.

[mayur955]

It's not excuse.
It's reality that you all don't accept.

[SarahsSummer]

@mayur955 YOu can sit around, lament and hope every female on the planet changes or you can look to change yourself. I guarantee the latter will bring better results

[mayur955]

I don't need to change.
I know how i m.

[Cdubs27]

@mayur955 it's a fictional reality. Not an actual reality.

[ronaldo75]

These are excuses but when women want to piss and moan about men being assholes that's totally ok, right? THis response proves the post 100%. Today's women feels she's perfect and has NOTHING to fix or correct about herself. That shit is not only dangerous but it's also irritating and a HUGE turn off.

[mayur955]

Yes. This makes me ignore everyone.

[jayden12]

MGTOW
women are prostitutes :)

no point in dating

[hellionthesagereborn]

Wouldn't that apply to women who can't find good men or who question why men don't want them? Wouldn't we presume that this then would be on them? All I see is how if a man is frustrated with women its his fault, if he cannot get a woman who is worth being with its his fault, if a woman is frustrated with men, its MEN's fault, if women can't get dates with men its MENS fault. Seems like women are the ones doing what your accusing him of. Maybe consider whats being said and you and other women would stop being confused about why guys act the way they do (such an issue that we are on a site dedicated to women trying to figure out men and how we think and what we want). Just seems a tad bit hypocritical.

[MrsDahmer]

You got it right lady

[Chikky]

Hey hun, really a great view and point. I read half of it tho but it's really great

[Anonymous]

I started dating men at a age of 19 (single mom) so I never made comments like the one you mentioned about the kids lol. I did however let him pay for dates if he asked me on a date because I would say no thank you I can't go on a date right now because I am not able to cover the cost of babysitter and dinner at a fancy restaurant. Spending money I would look at my expenses and so I would rather eat at home cooked meal and save up some money for whenever I would go on dates. Now after I would be honest with the guy he would either just not ask me anymore or offer to pay for the dinner and babysitter. So I would be considerate in paying my part which is the babysitter. 1st of all he is not the father of my kids to be covering expenses like childcare. So yea... even when I would go out clubbing with guy friends or friends in general I would always end up getting a bottle or beers for them to enjoy throughout the night. Now when I was tight on money I wouldn't want to go out at all because my concern is what if things go wrong or unexpected like a guy leaving the restaurant and I (broke) sitting at the table looking at the tab 😳😳. Worst case scenario. So yea I dont go out much because I just switch priorities.
Oohh also when I was in a relationship with my ex I would gift him whatever he liked. For special occassions like anniversary or birthday present or chirstmas and valentines day. If it was a normal day and I wanted to do something special just because I would cook something nice and buy nice lingerie. So yea the relationship didn't work out because he started cheating and I got disgusted by that. (Fact: that is why I ended things with my ex the father of my kids also)

I feel like if the woman is independant and has a high self esteem then she will spoil you instead if belittling you. Now you have to watch out if she's spoiling you so she can manipulate you into whatever her evil plan is. I doubt men would fall into manipulation so easily because they never do what a woman wants they do whatever they want which is fair like noone is a fucking object to be a property of someone.

by the way Im 24 now so my dating days have ended Im not focused on dating men. If a guy wants to have a relationship with me I will just observe all his moves and if he does something I dont like Ill be clear and tell him. My list of requirements isn't like this list at all 🤣 my list is just basic
1. Honesty
2. Actions speak louder than words
3. Intimacy will not be rushed at all
4. No possesive or control aspects in him that is a big no for me (idk 🤣about this one because I don't know if men are naturally born like that)
5. Personality

[Tdieseler]

Yea... and thats the problem ".. observe all his moves"... really doesn't leave much room for trust. Understandable, its the fruit of what the ex did? (is this the part where i call you "bitter" too? lol, cuz your gender does it to me when i say stuff like that and I've never been hurt) Anyway, Screw those other women, we are talking about you.
Thank you for opinion, seems like your priorities shifted since the kid.
Your requirements sound about right for someone in your position, thanks for actually listing then out, pretty ballsy, i like it... now let me give you a male reaction to it.
1. Honesty... lol... really? ok fine. but men know damn well you dont want 100% of it
2. They sure as hell do, and for the most part, they dont lie either
3. ooooh... may have to review that. you may say "not rushed"... but I've heard that, and a year and a half later, she still "wasnt ready"... Direct clash with a HUGE male requirement lol
4. Men are naturally born like that. Thats why we make the first move and are "supposed" to be protectors. We see what/who we want, we go for it, and when we attain it, keep it protected.
5. Thats pretty vague. Prince charming lives on paper. I think 1 and 2 should suffice.

I tried to generalize that as much as i could. my personal counter is way worse than that lol

[Opinion Owner]

Well thanks I sure like knowing things I dont know of men mentality because ofcourse a lot of factors play in as well not only gender. So I guess no expectations of a man really 🤣❤sounds about right and for the sex part I mean the generation we live in today is way more open about having sex with multiple people it doesn't matter if your a woman or man so I just feel like it shouldn't be more than 1 year of waiting that seems sooo stupid in my part because I do have a high sex drive so for me trying not to rush things seems like a challenge and its not like I neeeed a guy to fuck me every day or I can't live without a guy but its mostly because I started out "young" dating men different type of ages just to see what I like more. In the end I just feel like I wouldn't give it up soo easy like my past mistakes was having a one night stand ugh I mean I created my own code. Like if I sleep with a guy the first date then I just dont expect him to treat me more than that. I also dont try to be all in a fairytale thinking that he's the best when clearly I just met the dude. Thanks a lot 👍🏼👍🏼

[Tdieseler]

I gotta do some research on that "sex on the first date thing" I think its male insecurity to be honest, and i blame no woman. here's a tip for that, if you have a one night stand, your chances of having a meaningful relationship with that person drops to about 10%. So unless you are all about sex in the first place, thats a downward spiral.
Also, one thing you should NEVER do as a woman is to "expect" anything from a man, but amazingly enough, every man likes a woman who ASKS. We're dumb, we know that, but women seem to think we think on their level. We dont... so we love a woman who TELLS us what she is thinking or what she wants. Makes things So Much Easier, and who doesn't like easy?
One of my pet peeves, when a woman is upset and she goes "well if you dont know what you did wrong, there is nothing to talk about". I swear when i hear that, i think i feel some of my sanity bubbles pop. That sentence makes no sense... to a guy. so most guys dont do anything... which makes the situation worse lol... sigh... women.

[Cdubs27]

Ok, i know you said 'guys don't respond', but i'm going to anyways because this pisses me off.

You write this as if its "the guys perspective". But the reality is that it is your perspective, not the consensus guys perspective. Now i'm sure some guys share your opinion on some of this, that's inevitable. But don't paint this off as if it's the consensus. It makes the rest of us look like assholes.
Now I don't disagree with everything you said. Picking up bills is a great point. In a society that values equality, the guy should not be EXPECTED to pick up the bill. That being said, it's a classy act if he offers to do so.

As for the majority of the rest of what you wrote... From what I'm reading a lot of what you've experienced is a result of your own actions. You constantly seem to circle around and bring sex into your argument. Having a relationship is unrelated to sex. Sex is great and it's often a perk but it is not a requirement. If you pressure a girl into having sex with you, than you're creating a power dynamic where she ends up having unwanted sex. To be clear another name for unwanted sex is rape.
If sex is in fact a requirement for YOU, than you need to stop looking for a relationship. What you need to do is go on craigslist and hire a prostitute.
Personal experience, I had a girlfriend for 2 years. She was a hardcore Christian and wanted to wait till marriage to have sex. So for over 2 years I didn't have sex. Why? Because I had an emotional connection with her that exceeded the physical pleasure.

Footnote: I would carry on, but i've got sleep insomnia and it's now 6am so i'm having trouble putting my thoughts onto paper. Will continue/revise this later when i'm actually sane.

[Tdieseler]

If you can be this clear while sleepy, i dont think i want to face you when not sleepy... Or maybe i do. I mean you got my note of not being Expected to do something but you bottled down on my sex aspect... tit for tat... if he pays well... her turn.
then the world goes "she doesn't have to"... well... i went a step back... i just dont fucking pay... end of story.
If sex ain't a requirement for you (had this talk with a buddy)... thats great... but according to the 90-10 theory... its a requirement for us. Its not smart, but its real.
Because i know one thing... women always want it all... all the good shit... but without the bad shit. Men know that good shit COMES with some bad shit...

[Cdubs27]

I "bottled down" on the sex aspect because it seems like every single point you made always seems to not just elude to but revolves around sex. If you don't think you can have a relationship with a girl because for some reason or another she's not willing to have sex than fine, I can't say I agree but fine. However, you seem to make sex THE priority of a relationship. That is fundamentally wrong to the purpose of a relationship. If you don't want to pay a prostitute than that's fine, but don't pretend that what you're doing is searching for a relationship.
Admittedly I didn't know what the 90-10 theory is and after looking it up I still don't. I found 2 things about the 90-10 theory. One of them is related to dieting and the other is related to things that we can and cannot control. Neither of these seems to relate to what you said. Please attach a link so I can see exactly what you are referencing.
Lastly, "women always want it all... all the good shit... but without the bad shit. Men know that good shit COMES with some bad shit..." Face it, everybody is like that, you included. Example, you want to have sex aka "the good shit" but you don't want to pay for it aka "the bad shit". I get what your referencing when you say that, but it's not something that is gender exclusive.

[Tdieseler]

If you googled the 90-10 theory sir... you won't find anything because it only exists HERE... on MY takes and opinions... but because you are an avid (and focused) debater... i will explain it.. again.
In male-female relationships, or feminine male - mascu... oh, you get the fucking idea... in any relationship, dating relationship, one person has what they want and what they do for the other person.
For straight males and straight females... i came up with the 90-10. You think guys want to pay for some girl all the time? go out to places they dont wanna go..."spend time", when they could be gaming or watching a game? most hate that shit, that is our 10%... thats "for her"... but the 90% is when we want her sexy or having sex...
Now reverse it... she wants to do all that spend time stuff... but sex is mostly never a big issue to them... that is their 10%...
Anyone that breaks those rules...(and I've met a few) i say good luck to them... I've met women who would do "it" wherever they can get it, and I've met guys who would go to a museum on Sunday evening... but for the most part, people have what they want, and what they give to get what they want. 90... meet 10.

[Cdubs27]

I will admit that both of those groups do exist. But unless you have done polls or have some way to back up those numbers than I can't take it seriously. So we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

[Tdieseler]

Maybe I haven't done numbers to prove the theory directly... but i have done numbers on the concept. and the numbers are right.
Would you date a woman who wants to go on dates all the time (that you pay for) wants you to remember (her) important dates, cater to her... etc the rest of that bs... BUT no sex... not because she isn't ready, but just... no sex...
Would you do all that?

[Cdubs27]

"Maybe I haven't done numbers to prove the theory directly... but i have done numbers on the concept." Two things. First that ^^^^^^ doesn't make any sense. Second, until you have something other than you're theoretical numbers I can't take you seriously. But I obviously won't be able to convince you of the flaws in your theory. Trying to debate with me about your theory is an argument not worth having... for either of us. So like I said, agree to disagree.

[stardust101]

Wow... so much bitter. It’s come to my conclusion that women use men they don’t respect or like in a romantic way. Some people who don’t even like the person will still try and use that person to their own benefit. I know it’s so easy to start stereotyping people and the opposite sex based on your own life experiences with them. I’ve also noticed that life experiences are stemmed from emotional trauma which people will manifest more of if they don’t heal themselves. I know it sucks, but ever since I healed a lot of my emotional trauma, I don’t attract certain things in my life anymore and it’s changed my whole perspective on those things. For example, every guy I’ve ever been with has been controlling. Always trying to control me. It finally occurred to me that most everyone can be controlling but which part of that man am I feeding? We all have a good side and a bad side. My fear used to be about being controlled and I would fight tooth and nail for my independence which made the guys more controlling. I’m still working on this issue. Not so much my fear anymore, but changing my behavior. Most men don’t heal themselves though, but I encourage you to. I hope you face your dark side and heal yourself

[ObscuredBeyond]

If I weren't such a lousy hunter, maybe I could live in the woods with a wife who doesn't expect much, like one of those families you see in Far Cry 5. A WiFi connection for when you really badly need to contact the outside world; but otherwise, just a dirt road away from the nearest trade post, and to Hell with the rest of society. I wouldn't be rich by society's material standards, but you can bet I'd be feeling like a king. And I'd make her feel like queen of the castle... even if its a repurposed abandoned Super 8. To be that self-sufficient. That free. And to still have a companion.

Instead, I've lost women to:
- alcoholism
- defeatism
- drugs (she OD'd)
- infidelity (theirs)
- abuse (hers)
- possible clinical insanity (hers)
- Huntington's disease (hers)
- The Chinese government (long story)
- depression (mine)

So forget demanding material girls. It's hard to strike up the courage to date *anyone*. Even when women notice me; I feel like I don't deserve another chance. Or like it's doomed to fail.

[Tdieseler]

Wow... Umm... dont feel that way sir... there are a lot of "hers" in this story... i need to start hearing some him. Dont bow to women... ever. Next girl... YOU tell her what YOU want... and tell her if she's not game... she can fuck off. Obviously you are a man that respects women (a little too much in my opinion)... so you know you will respect her... but speak up... she gotta respect you FIRST.

[ObscuredBeyond]

The point is, when she suddenly dies, is suddenly cut off from you by a third party in a forceful manner, or is revealed to have a terminal illness, or suddenly goes off the deep end, it's easy to feel like you have no control.

Yes, I told the alcoholic defeatist enough was enough. If she wouldn't respect me, I wasn't going to waste any more emotional energy on her. Yes, I ran away from the cheaters and scammers, especially the really abusive ones. And I ended things quickly with the loony that wanted to start a revolution in Slovakia. Because I don't have time for that crap. And the drug addict took herself out of the equation by overdosing to death.

However, losing the one girl to a terminal illness and the other to global politics? Just not fair. It's like being trapped in a bad Nicholas Sparks novel.

[Tdieseler]

I just think you should whore out... hold no ties to anyone...

[RegularTK421]

I kind of agree with it sadly. I think both men and women can be full of shit, but once you see through it you just do. Both genders can become disenfranchised with each other. Girls can be annoying to deal with, entitled, strategically emotional, etc. Men tend to be liars, cheaters, or bums. My only advice to most people, is to always have separate accounts, and to hold off on marriage unless you have lived with someone first and you know them 100 percent and for many years. I dated a girl who was sexy as hell, always talked about how she's a hustler and gets her own money and doesn't need a man or his money. She had 4 kids at the time, and then threw out hints that she was struggling financially. She even told our mutual friend, that if I "cared" about her I would not only help her out, I would want to. We haven't even dated for a month. Why in the fuck am I going to throw out money to a girl I barely know? I got my own bills to pay and I love money. Needless to say, she ghosted on me quick. Couldn't even tell me directly that she was good and wanted to look elsewhere. That same chick, fucked an old man for money and he even put her in a cabin for a vacation. Which I didn't know about at the time. Even my current girlfriend tries to be manipulative. She always wants to go out, and gets mad if I tell her no, I don't have money for

[RegularTK421]

bars or restaurants. Then she starts trying to calculate my money to spend it for me, so I reverse it and ask her where is your money at? People definitely try you and probe for weakness. I have helped her out, but it's amazing that once it's done, they are happy for a minute, only to have their hand right back out again. When you say no, they act like you have never done anything for them, because they are not getting what they want at that moment. I don't mind being single, it's less bullshit, and you can really stack money and do so in peace and without having a woman whining and pulling on you to do what they want for their entertainment, or because they need "help."

[Unit1]

Very unsurprising to see a certain number of the pinks not giving this perspective any real thought beyond their "cheap bitter misogynistic virgin loser neckbeard, who can't get a girlfriend" rather than taking a learning opportunity from it and upping themselves. Duh? What girlfriend with females like those in your list? You could add those types of females in that list as well while we're at it. Seriously: Are they mad, that they didn't get what they wanted from you and shame you for it? This is why MGTOW exists.

But of course it seems that feelings matter a lot more than being respectful and having a clever approach to life and it's shenanigans. Then we wonder why the divorce rates are sky high and why love is vanishing.
This is why.

If they were to write the same article as you did they would say stuff like "men are cheaters, men are abusive and violent, men are never listening, men want only one thing, men don't dress good". I would read through it and gain some value and insight to up myself for the ladies rather than calling her a "bitter feminist cock carousel riding slut, who got pumped and dumped by yet another Chad Rammer alpha swagboss"

On the bright side some ladies do see the value here, which is good because that is providing hope for relationships between good men and good women.

[Anonymous]

I'm all for strong and independent, even if that would exclude me. I would never want to be chosen by someone out of desperation anyway. That's not the problem

What's annoying is women who claim they were as long as the going was good, but a sudden downturn in the economy and it's immediately to regress back into the search of a male provider (or y'know, the state). Like a child who returns to live with parents without paying rent. I guess that's what we're seeing now, but who the fk today wants to be a provider to someone who's not even a child in 2020?

Most men would never take that option, that is, search for a high earning woman because they fear for their standard living. Interestingly, this has been falsely re-branded into "men don't know when to ask for help" but that's just an attempt to normalize neediness, honestly.

There are principled women though, who actually live the consequences of equality without any hypocritical double standards. That's hot! Kudos to them and I respect them.

[R_Cakes91]

Dude, this article was cool! I feel the same way about dating. Women who are like this are fucking crazy. If you can’t please them with your money there’s no way in hell you’ll please them with anything else.

I always go Dutch unless the guy absolutely insists on paying. I’ve also paid for dates too.

Your section on sex requirements made me laughing so hard because you’re paying out the ass just to bang. I personally don’t wait that long to bang, the time between meeting and banging depends on how I feel about him and to make sure he’s not a psycho.

Thanks for your perspective. Just find a chick whose chill. It’s kinda like meeting a cat that acts like a dog. It’s rare but when you find them, you’re like “holy fuck, you’re cool!”

[Alfie_Solomons]

I don't think I'd ever agree with a black dude when it comes to dating. But yet, just by skimming your take, I agree with you. I feel sorry for you and I know you do for most guys, as do I. The reason I mentioned your race is because you're black, girls will have sex with you just because girls want the "big dick". Gorgeous, middle class and rich white, Asian and latina girls will worship the black guys in their school. Being a middle class or rich black man means you own all the girls at your school.

It's good to see a black guy having problems with dating, and I don't mean I'm glad you got hurt and stuff, but it just makes me feel better is all. Please don't get offended.

Now, in regards to your take. I agree. Girls want guys who are 6ft tall, have a good body, good job, money, nice car etc. and they do not put the same requirements on themselves. Girls are party girls now. They have no respect for relationships or anything but getting drunk, spending money, hooking up with random guys and just living the "wild and young" lifestyle. Girls don't have morals, that's why men kept women down for so long. They are selfish by nature and just care about themselves. They're very hypocritical.

It's sad because almost every other generation of men before us saw marriage as a goal in life, something to look forward to. getting married and having kids. Our generation of guys doesn't have that, no wonder why we are all so depressed and have the highest suicide rate in the history of humans. Because even though life was much harder than now, men always had their family and wives to go home to. Now we don't.

I think I hate women. It's sad because I used to love them but honestly, just seeing what other guys go through and stuff, I just don't see anything good about girls at all.

[Cdubs27]

i'm not going to touch your opinion on girls, not worth my time. That being said, your opinion on black guys is an accurate portrayal of daytime TV, but not an accurate portrayal of real life. But you're only 17, you're still just a kid. You still have time to not become like Tdiesler. I'm not pointing out that you're 17 to be patronizing or to say that you're unintelligent. Only to point out the indisputable fact that you have less life experience. Spend some time in a low income black community than come back and tell me if you have the same opinion. Hopefully you don't get the shit beat out of you for having a racist opinion.

[Tdieseler]

@Cdubs27 whoooooaaaaaa... pump the brakes there... WHAT? "... not to become like Diesel?" the fuck you think i am? some woman hater?
Brah... I am a curse to women... i studied these fuckers since i was 11 years old. and have broken more hearts than i can count. Im the worst thing any woman wants to come across... im the catalyst... im not like regular men, and i dont tolerate female Bullshit either.

As for the rest of your shit... i dont care about his racism... i called him a moron on that and left it, (honestly though... thats just his way of thinking... the real truth is that blacks just put more effort into pleasing her. most guys just wanna get a nut off. the size is just a perk)
Im looking at his points about the topic, and the kid actually is on point... he knows what used to happen and what is happening now... but a little confused.
"... why men have kept women down..."... umm.. I don't know... maybe for fucking global security? women are fucking nuts little boy... im not saying put em on a leash... im saying watch them.
They will convince you to do shit... then coil back around to bite you in the ass FOR doing it... like snakes... just my advice kid... i love women too... but i always keep an eye out.

Hey kid solomon, I know how you feel, these hoes, i mean, girls, ain't shit these days, but that is what should make you have a stronger attitude towards being a man and making an honest woman out of one of them. If you need more tips, my profile is open... please... feel free.
Cdubs said you may turn into me... I think you ARE me already (sometimes i hate em too) but I have a fuck ton of hurting em behind me., I dont know if you do.

[Alfie_Solomons]

Wait how is my opinion racist when I'm complimenting black men?

[Cdubs27]

@alfie "I don't think I'd ever agree with a black dude when it comes to dating. But yet, just by skimming your take, I agree with you. I feel sorry for you and I know you do for most guys, as do I. The reason I mentioned your race is because you're black, girls will have sex with you just because girls want the "big dick".

Lets examine the first part "i don't think i'd ever agree with a black dude when it comes to dating." That statement comes from a place of superiority and self pity. Saying a black guy gets the girl solely because of the color of their skin and not because of their individual characteristics.

[Alfie_Solomons]

@Cdubs27 it's not racist. It's true. White girls especially fuck black guys JUST because they're black. Trust me. That's a privilege. Black men are more privileged in dating than other races, therefore I didn't think I'd agree with them.

Don't be a sensitive little Liberal.

[Cdubs27]

genuinely idiotic take that shows your intelligence, not your age.

[Tdieseler]

@Cdubs27 umm... first off... homes, im not talking about me or blacks, or whites... im talking about the true enemy... females.
Also Alfie... thats not realistically true... theoretically... but not realistically. I worked in porn, the sizes are pretty much the same... if anything... whites and latinos, when packing, were packing bigger.

THIS has NOTHING to do with dating. Cdubs... no one is being superior... lets focus on the true problem fellas... cmon.

[Cdubs27]

This has everything to do with dating. Everything I've ever seen you write circles back around to sex, money, dating and how they do or do not coincide. You judge a woman if the man runs away and say it's her fault. You judge women because maybe they might have standards. You judge women when they don't want to have sex with you. No matter how shit goes down you always think it's the woman's fault. And all of that judgement constantly comes back to sex, money and dating.

[Tdieseler]

@Cdubs27 Ok... lets hear your opinions then. Why is it that that the divorce rates raised up since "feminism", why is it that 82% of divorces are initiated by women, why is it that men gotta satisfy 23, 578+ expectations and they dont do shit... thats just 3... for now...

[Cdubs27]

First, divorce rates have actually gone down considerably since the 1980's.
Second, if the woman is initiating the divorce it probably means the man fucked up. And vice versa for that remaining 18%.
Third, the concept of the man pursuing the woman is one that was perpetrated by men. So what if a woman has standards. The irony is that men believe a woman with standards is a prude but a woman without standards is a slut. Neither one of them is very complementary. But so what if a woman has standards anyways, I have standards too. The only difference is that I'm not going to ask her out if she isn't up to my standards. Thus why i'm not judged for it.

[Optymistyk]

You're a dummy.
Women don't want your frickin money. You could be the richest guy in the world and yeah, you'd likely find a gold digger who's gonna sleep with you. But even then she's gonna find herself a side guy she actually wants and only sleep with you as her "job".

Going on expensive dates is dumb dumb dumb. She can see you're trying to impress her and it's needy af. She feels like you're trying to buy her and she's gonna resent you for that. I usually just invite girls to a coffee or to hang out and I've never had a bad reaction.

Even if you invite her out to a coffee you don't actually have to pay for her. I used to want to split the bill and the girls were always fine with that, I slept with some of them. Nowadays I do usually buy her the first coffee but that's because I want to. If you do buy her coffee she usually feels more comfortable and safe with you and I like that more than 3$

[Tdieseler]

Thank you for your opinion sir. Good to know you missed the "19" part, but thanks anyway.
Poland huh... come to USA sometime and try that.

[Optymistyk]

I don't know what you're refering to.

Women are women no matter if you're in the USA or Poland or whenever.

[Tdieseler]

Its the environment boo boo... and the level of entitlement... and over here... These bitches would eat you alive... and not in a good way.

[Optymistyk]

You should come to Poland then you will suddenly be flooded with free pussy.

[Tdieseler]

except im too old for that shit sir... i dont need pussy OR women to validate myself or my life... Now i want what we all want at some point... just ONE person.. who is going to be everything.
Pussy, I've had, I've been a major MAJOR whore... pussy interests me none. I need personality and character around me...

[emmily2396]

First off, you don't need all of that to be attractive to a woman, maybe just a gold digger. Sure, it is a plus when you do have them, but they are not requirements. However, simply showing that you are constantly working on yourself is attractive.
Also, how is she making it about sex if she doesn't feel comfortable sleeping with a stranger? That is what you are until she gets to know you better. I personally don't feel comfortable sleeping, hugging, kissing and so on with someone I just met. If I don't feel like doing those naturally then why would I force it? And I wouldn't demand a guy pays for the date. A walk in the park is fine to me if the weather is good for it.

[NatashaJ]

That doesn't make sense gold diggers go after rich ugly or hot they want the money and do anything for it.

[hellionthesagereborn]

But you do? I mean its scientifically proven as well as anecdotal, so why lie about it? Women want men with money, this is a cold hard fact: nypost.com/.../?utm_source=reddit.com
You want a man who has more money, this is just reality please be honest about it (women always make excuses for this even though every woman does this, every man knows women do this and every study confirms it. Why lie about something that we all know to be true?).

[emmily2396]

Of course want someone financially stable. That doesn't mean rich though

[PinkMichae]

@hellionthesagerenorn Most people regardless of male or female want a person that's financially stable. Still if they like a person enough it doesn't mean everyone will refuse dating someone who isn't as long as it's not because they are just being lazy. My man and I are proof of this with him being unemployed and struggling when I met him. And I know I can't be the only one that put's a great connection above financial stability. And I'm sure you'll just call me a liar. But just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's not true. Back in the day when women couldn't work of course they had to seek out a man that had a good financial future. But we have our own income now and don't require a man with money.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@PinkMichae No, men generally could care less about a woman's income (again, this is provable fact). I've also never suggested men don't have their own priorities. What I stated is claiming that money has nothing to do with a mans attractiveness is an out right scientifically and statistically provable lie. Never suggested their wasn't a purpose to it (their is, pregnancy is resource intensive and women require more resources while pregnant even as it gets harder to acquire them ergo males who are able to acquire said resources are more desirable then those who don't). I stated pretending like this isn't the case is not only provably false and a lie that EVERYONE knows, men and women alike, but it serves no purpose but to piss off men, mislead them into believing that women want something they don't (doesn't help the men and it doesn't help the women) and is used as cover and an excuse for women to ignore that aspect about them (it can become a huge character flaw if left unchecked and again, when men see it and see you lying about it will just make things worse. You can't be in control of your behavior if you refuse to acknowledge that it exists (same with men)). Providing anecdotal data means absolutely nothing, of course their are other circumstances and factors, not one single person, least of all me, has ever suggested otherwise. The point was don't lie about something that every single human being on the planet knows to be true it doesn't help any one, own it, make sure you don't let it run rampant and go about your day. Its the equivalent of men saying that they love fat and ugly women then proceeding to ignore those kinds of women. How does that help any one? It doesn't. Its not even believable because we can sit back and watch men and see their behavior and recognize that this is the exact opposite of what they go after.

[PinkMichae]

@hellionthesagereborn I don't lie. All I can do is go by my experience of myself and the women I've known in my life. Maybe women who grew up more poor don't have those high standards of men with a certain income. Or if we can support ourselves why would we need a man with good money? Out of all the women I know including myself only one had a high standard of men with good money. My grandma focused on that bs and I didn't agree. It would piss me off when I'd introduce her to a boyfriend and she would start grilling him on what he has financially. I think that's why the women in my family didn't focus on money. But even friends I have didn't only date men with money. So in my experience I don't believe most women are that way. Just a certain kind of woman.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@PinkMichae I never said you specifically lied, I stated women claiming that wealth isn't a factor is a lie and it absolutely is. So if you claim its not then either your lying or delusional and unable to admit to yourself what is in fact a very real, very well studied and very apparent phenomenon. I mean you keep asking questions but I have already answered them. If women can support themselves why would they want a man with more money? I don't know, ask the women who refuse to marry down: www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...truggling-Mr-Right.html
dailycaller.com/.../
Again, this is well established information. Just because you don't need the money doesn't mean you don't want it. Biology does not factor in what we have now vs. before, you want a man who has more and it doesn't matter whether or not you actually need it (again, as all data shows (which I have provided you and your going to dismiss (as all people do)). Again, I don't actually have an issue with it per say except for when it either a. goes out of control (the money is more important then anything else) and/or b. when women refuse to acknowledge that this exists when it so very obviously to all people does. Again, like men claiming they only want ugly women when every single action and word out of their mouth shows otherwise, its a stupid thing to lie about or to delusionally ignore.

[PinkMichae]

The only thing I can think of is women still look for men with higher incomes because they want financial security when she's out of work having babies. I don't know.

What I do know is I can't relate to needing a man that makes more than me and in my experience the couples I know are pretty close in what income they bring in.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@PinkMichae Yes, that's is precisely why women are biologically wired to want a man with greater resources (just as men are wired to want women with certain physical builds because it increases survivability of giving birth). I'm not bad mouthing it, I'm not suggesting that its innately wrong (its not, it provides a function that is necessary). As for you, maybe what your saying is true (I can't verify that) but that is an anecdote meant to dismiss tens of thousands of other peoples "ancedotes", that's not an argument its an attempt to dismiss the points made. As for having close incomes sure, that happens in a capitalist society, its also true that by your own admission those women are not marrying men who make less so it also verifies my point and the point made by the multiple studies that show this to be the case.

[Tdieseler]

@hellionthesagereborn hahahah... its been long since I've heard someone make this reference... but now that I've read @emmily2396 's schtick... it reminds me of something i fucking hate... when women personalize. Its great and all that you are one of those women who wouldn't require a guy to pay for you on a first date, but what women ALWAYS SEEM TO FORGET... is that you are not the only women and the hundreds or women that WE MEET... require it.
Me? im just an asshole... lol... but thats me

[Anonymous]

All thanks to the Internet, Facebook, Instagram, and apps like Tinder. Women are bombarded with endless options 24/7 and you, yourself, are never going to stack up. Even if you're a great guy, there's always someone better in her queue, or at least that's what she thinks.

You're one of hundreds, if not thousands, even 10's of thousands, and her ego is flying high in outer space while yours is breaking down out of frustration when you see yet another girl reply with a one word answer, if at all, and then instantly remove or block you from speaking to her.

[Tdieseler]

Next time... just post as yourself... if you are gonna say some true shit. I have had an idea of this... but seeing it written out... makes it real.
sad part... that moron looking at the guy with the many girls that i "... can't stack up to" that same girl is going to get her heart broken later... so it doesn't bother me at all. Women have a tendency to skip good guys for the "bad" ones... then try to "change" them, and make them "good"... lol... right.

[AuroraRoseat]

This isn’t applicable to the majority of women. I wouldn’t ever project my limited reality onto the majority of men. Even if all I’ve experienced are assholes, it doesn’t make most men assholes. Just those I HAVE MET. I think it’s unrealistic and heavily biased as well as irrational to think otherwise.

Take each person as an individual is what I do. I’ll say you’re right but not about the majority of women.

[Tdieseler]

Leave it to you to just break the shit down... but you repeated what i said... it doesn't apply to ALL women. (really? all of them were "assholes".. did you ever think that maybe YOU just misjudged?) Women love their labels... i mean, im known as a dick, asshole, hater, bitter... ugh... list goes on... BUT all i do is just say things as they are just like im dong now.
You say unrealistic... what is realistic... where he pays for everything and you guys can ride into the sunset on a unicorn? When women understand that "its not just you".. i think we will be able to start fixing this dumbass mentality... because men already understand it (as dumb as we are... wait... doesn't that mean women are dumber if they dont get it... Shhhh... you NEVER call a woman dumb... or anything she doesn't like... absolutely intelligent) men understand that it ain't just us... women seem to think it is, and forget there are other women. Guys as a collective would see a woman, and if they want her, they'd admit so as a collective group...
Again... not all women are like this... dont be like this... im just starting to be a fan.

[AuroraRoseat]

I said “if”. It could be a matter of perception but their actions do not leave a lot of room. Still I would be judging them based on my subjective belief.

What’s unrealistic is projecting your views onto the majority of women. It only applies to the women you’ve dealt with. You don’t know how many women are similar.

And sorry not all guys want women nor do the same things. Whenever I hear someone say something from a guys perspective, it makes me think of a hive mind as if men are a slave to their base instincts essentially making men seem boorish and animal-like.

[Tdieseler]

When i dealt with these kind of women im talking about... i broke a lot more than hearts... i wasn't talking about me. i dont tolerate women that have no respect but demand it. I dont tolerate assuming bitches.. i dont tolerate women that want to hold sex...(MY 90%) hostage, while wanting me to do everything they want (THEIR 90%)... the list is long. That is why my stories and how i handled these situations are not in this particular article.

Women (offline) for the most part dont fuck with me... i dont play their game.
Im sorry if it seems im including most women... but i only stay in a certain vicinity... but i hear news around the world as well... and i feel sorry for the guys because they just can't be like me.
Some either cry, some quit, some bend, some break... im titanium... i only bend when she bends, and nothing before. Im past "pussy" control... if she won't give... someone else will... i ain't worried.
She can either get with or get out. because i dont mistreat anyone. doesn't mean i would stand to be mistreated.

[PinkMichae]

I would love to think what you say is wrong because it's not my experience with how I am and the women I know. But maybe it's our age. I don't know. I know there are gold diggers but I'd like to think they are a minority. Notice how I said "I'd like to think."

But men are the ones dating women today so they probably have a better understanding of how women are.

Regardless I hope you find a good woman that will change your perspective. It was a good my take. I might not agree with everything. I think you're correct with most of it.😎

[little_bird1]

I couldn't read all of it because it's full of "all women care about is money" bullshit. Although it's true that some (read ATTRACTIVE) women care about money/status, it downright disrespectful for us who are not like that to read this MyTake.
It all comes down to one thing: regardless of gender, we all go through same shit. Men blame women, women blame men. It's a never-ending story. We are ALL superficial. We get drawn to "pretty" people and those people are usually poop. I know quite few females that can fit into this MyTake, and guess what? Those girls are beautiful and hot and charming. So no wonder men complain about "women" when all they do is develop crushes on beauty. Women too.

Next time, before setting an eye on a women, ask yourself if you would go out with her after taking her looks out of the equation? If you could name at least 3 things that are better then her looks, then go for it.

[FunkyMonkee]

Well? That's mostly true!!

[pikuroy]

You are absolutely right Bro!
1. These days most girls are so shallow!. They have nothing to discuss except clothes, movie gossip, restaurant and all pointless useless stuff.

2. Most girls are like trophies. They never support in your struggle but wait at the finish line of your struggle.

3. No matter how deep your relationship is with a girl, she is not going to settle with you until she is past her prime time waiting for some better deal.

4. Most girls are giving in to their hormones and comfort. They are not willing to struggle to improve themselves. They have so much option that can't spend their energy and effort on just one.

5. Except for sex, most girls have nothing to offer.