It's not about the money he's willing to pay for the date, if I do go on a date then I would prefer to pay for myself. I go to a fancy place is because that's where I would generally go if I go out for dinner with my friends. And if that's the type of place I go with my friends then lmao I won't let me first date be in a fast food or anything. It totally depends on the person and their life style.
i agree with you and you seem to come from a well off family. at 18, you obviously can't be independent and have a luxurious life on your own.(safely assuming you're not some 1 in a billion kid who do succeed so early)
but the truth is, the reason why some people dont do fancy place is to focus on each other. the food you eat, the atmosphere you pay for isn't even close to being important to assessing the person. ii dated some model types before and they all tell me its who they do (live life) with but their actions always proved its about what they do for image and ego. soemthing to bost to their friends and feel good about themselves. truly secure people need non of this. sure it feeds the sensual side of things and mainly ego but with a simple date where you can talk, you get to see the persons iq as well as their mq which are what may tell you where you'll end up with the person or how they are. mq is moral quotient.
also when you're eating for free, you're in debt. he will expect something and the sense of debt will make you give it up. its not a good way to go about things but smart people know this stuff after living life.
those people are not after for the date. its what their date can give them. you can find happiness in simple things. those type of people are worth to keep.
I've never expected a guy to take me to a fancy place on a first date. Actually, all the first dates I had took place in coffee shops, bookstores, the movies, inexpensive restaurants (not fast food chains though).
Why do some girls expect an expensive first date? Likely for the same reason guys seem to expect sex/sexual activity before entering a relationship. That reason being some associate worth to the act.
For some gals how much a guy is willing to spend on her correlates to his interest and investment of her. No different than for some guys how sexual a gal is willing to be correlates to her interest of him.
1. Because some of them confuse a guy who's paying a lot for a guy who cares a lot. 2. Because some of them have old fashioned ideas that men are supposed to give them what they want in exchange for sex. And they want an expensive meal.
I'm not sure what women you've been hanging around with, but... I've always believed that if you really like a guy, just being with him was the best part of a date.
Though, that's just my opinion. You can take it however you would like to...
Oh god I would HATE to go on an expensive first day. That would be so fucken awkward and even worse if it goes really bad. I would just reject them and say,"I'm sorry but I can't afford that so I can't go on a date with you."
I don't now what you're talking about. Most of the dates I have been on have been very inexpensive, only getting more expensive once it became a relationship. Was I doing something wrong? LOL...
I don't know, i haven't met a girl who cared as of yet. I did however spend 100 on my first date with 1 girl just because it was a big event i wanted to attend anyway, and obviously it would be rude to make plans for something like that and auto expect her to have the cash when i never met her before.
Generally though, i keep it cheap and unless there are money problems (which no one has complained of yet) i go dutch. Seriously no one has, to my knowledge, judged me on it yet :)
if a girl wants an expensive FIRST date, (in my opinion) it seems like she might only be in it for your money.. i just feel like if you're sincerely into someone, it shouldn't matter what kinda date ya go on, as long as y'all are having fun & are just connecting on an emotional level. I understand more expensive dates when you've been dating for awhile and you just want a special evening, but I just don't get it for a first date. whoops.
Considering the fact that I make quite a bit of money I expect my man too as well which he does lol We come from the same background so he knew that while I wasn't exactly expecting an expensive first date it would be something that was greatly appreciated. :)
I have no idea because they are materialistic and think their love should be bought. I'm cool with a coupon date honestly. The cheaper the better as long as the food is still good.
i live quite an ok lifestyle (my dad is all about spending it) but I don't know i appreciate small stuff! and i love eating food in general (especially fast food cause i don't get to eat them often)
The manner in which someone courts another changes as we evolve. The formal dinner date stuff is even a tad bit before my generation. It's how my mom dated.
@blondfrog i'm not talking about frequency. i'm talking about the manner they'd go about it. nothing to do w/ social media. everything to do w/ 'texting'. the fact people assume others are accessible 24/7 is what's caused the most change. before, you were limited by having to call on the phone, hoping they were home. less opportunity to speak to one another, or communicate in general, much less ask someone out on a date.
I think you are right jessicorn, it doesn't matter how much money is going to pay but to enjoy the time together. It can be a good evening watching a movie at home or going for a walk together.
I think it's perfect to go to McDonald's in first date😂😂not for the money thing but it's more comfortable and the date is to know each other not for spending much money. you're the one that any guy dreams to date btw😂😂😂 others are just impressed with money
Based on my experience these girls, unlike you, do not care about connecting, and if they do they want to connect with a guy who is willing to spend money on them, preferably rich. Either they just want a free meal, or a rich man.
I think a lot of girls think that if a guy does not take them on an expensive first date then he doesn't really like her and/or he is only looking for sex. Unfortunately, I think this comes from their friends, chick flicks and romantic novels.
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It's not about the money he's willing to pay for the date, if I do go on a date then I would prefer to pay for myself. I go to a fancy place is because that's where I would generally go if I go out for dinner with my friends. And if that's the type of place I go with my friends then lmao I won't let me first date be in a fast food or anything. It totally depends on the person and their life style.
i agree with you and you seem to come from a well off family. at 18, you obviously can't be independent and have a luxurious life on your own.(safely assuming you're not some 1 in a billion kid who do succeed so early)
but the truth is, the reason why some people dont do fancy place is to focus on each other. the food you eat, the atmosphere you pay for isn't even close to being important to assessing the person. ii dated some model types before and they all tell me its who they do (live life) with but their actions always proved its about what they do for image and ego. soemthing to bost to their friends and feel good about themselves. truly secure people need non of this. sure it feeds the sensual side of things and mainly ego but with a simple date where you can talk, you get to see the persons iq as well as their mq which are what may tell you where you'll end up with the person or how they are. mq is moral quotient.
sorry for the rant stranger.
also when you're eating for free, you're in debt. he will expect something and the sense of debt will make you give it up. its not a good way to go about things but smart people know this stuff after living life.
people often need a lot of fluff when theyre empty inside.
I personally wouldn't care how expensive or cheap (just not McDonalds! haha), but I would hope that he had put some thought into it.
i love mcdonalds tho xD
expensive? I think you mean extra effort to make it special. no? don't date at all
nope as in expensive
those people are not after for the date. its what their date can give them. you can find happiness in simple things. those type of people are worth to keep.
You can make a date special without spending any money. If you think money = making something special, then you've got your priorities all fucked up.
@lumos you said it better than i do.
Going to a restaurant for a first date is an awful idea.
How am I supposed to get to know them if they have their mouth full of food?
you can spit food at each other. it would be a game to become close to your crush hahahahah
I've never expected a guy to take me to a fancy place on a first date. Actually, all the first dates I had took place in coffee shops, bookstores, the movies, inexpensive restaurants (not fast food chains though).
Why do some girls expect an expensive first date?
Likely for the same reason guys seem to expect sex/sexual activity before entering a relationship. That reason being some associate worth to the act.
For some gals how much a guy is willing to spend on her correlates to his interest and investment of her. No different than for some guys how sexual a gal is willing to be correlates to her interest of him.
1. Because some of them confuse a guy who's paying a lot for a guy who cares a lot.
2. Because some of them have old fashioned ideas that men are supposed to give them what they want in exchange for sex. And they want an expensive meal.
I'm not sure what women you've been hanging around with, but... I've always believed that if you really like a guy, just being with him was the best part of a date.
Though, that's just my opinion. You can take it however you would like to...
Oh god I would HATE to go on an expensive first day. That would be so fucken awkward and even worse if it goes really bad. I would just reject them and say,"I'm sorry but I can't afford that so I can't go on a date with you."
I don't now what you're talking about. Most of the dates I have been on have been very inexpensive, only getting more expensive once it became a relationship. Was I doing something wrong? LOL...
Nope, you weren't doing anything wrong.
I don't know, i haven't met a girl who cared as of yet. I did however spend 100 on my first date with 1 girl just because it was a big event i wanted to attend anyway, and obviously it would be rude to make plans for something like that and auto expect her to have the cash when i never met her before.
Generally though, i keep it cheap and unless there are money problems (which no one has complained of yet) i go dutch. Seriously no one has, to my knowledge, judged me on it yet :)
It is because the girls you speak of see men only as a walking wallet. They are sexist from the core.
if a girl wants an expensive FIRST date, (in my opinion) it seems like she might only be in it for your money.. i just feel like if you're sincerely into someone, it shouldn't matter what kinda date ya go on, as long as y'all are having fun & are just connecting on an emotional level. I understand more expensive dates when you've been dating for awhile and you just want a special evening, but I just don't get it for a first date. whoops.
Considering the fact that I make quite a bit of money I expect my man too as well which he does lol We come from the same background so he knew that while I wasn't exactly expecting an expensive first date it would be something that was greatly appreciated. :)
I have no idea because they are materialistic and think their love should be bought. I'm cool with a coupon date honestly. The cheaper the better as long as the food is still good.
Dates are like interviews and a woman's time is valuable. Unfortunately, some grossly inflate their self worth. What you're suggesting, is not common.
wow... a woman's time is valuable? thats sad if those women think like that... they're basically saying guys = shit lol
You don't think your time is valuable?
I hope you do. Just reasonably so.
i do but not much more than a guy's xD. especially if i go on a date with him... if i think my time is worth more might as well not even go
It's all relative, perhaps him spending $5 at mcdonalds for your happy meal is fine (cause it's $5). To others, $5 is $50... $500.
That comes down to lifestyle, and the people you associate with.
i live quite an ok lifestyle (my dad is all about spending it) but I don't know i appreciate small stuff! and i love eating food in general (especially fast food cause i don't get to eat them often)
That's how I feel about In N' Out.
Indulging on the best burger together... mmmmmmmmmmmm
what better way to bond than over candles, dim lighting, and formal questions. i understand where you're coming from.
he is just a white knight lol
The manner in which someone courts another changes as we evolve. The formal dinner date stuff is even a tad bit before my generation. It's how my mom dated.
@blondfrog well no. people were a bit more formal w/ eachother prior to all the impersonal ways one can communicate w/ another today.
hanging out like buddies first would have been considered a waste of time 20 years ago.
No if anything people hung out more back then because of all the technology there is now and social media.
@blondfrog i'm not talking about frequency. i'm talking about the manner they'd go about it. nothing to do w/ social media. everything to do w/ 'texting'. the fact people assume others are accessible 24/7 is what's caused the most change. before, you were limited by having to call on the phone, hoping they were home. less opportunity to speak to one another, or communicate in general, much less ask someone out on a date.
lmao dim lighting and formal questions 😂😂😂
I think you are right jessicorn, it doesn't matter how much money is going to pay but to enjoy the time together. It can be a good evening watching a movie at home or going for a walk together.
Because they're entitled little shits who don't understand the true value of getting to know a person without spending a single penny.
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@RedThread I'll eat 10, you take the rest :D
lol I'd die if I ate that many.. My body can't process fast food very well anymore.
@RedThread but it'll be cute. I'll force feed you n stuff (pun intended).
That would be an interesting sight to see lol
I think it's perfect to go to McDonald's in first date😂😂not for the money thing but it's more comfortable and the date is to know each other not for spending much money.
you're the one that any guy dreams to date btw😂😂😂 others are just impressed with money
loooooooool well thats quite a praise, thank you
Based on my experience these girls, unlike you, do not care about connecting, and if they do they want to connect with a guy who is willing to spend money on them, preferably rich. Either they just want a free meal, or a rich man.
I think a lot of girls think that if a guy does not take them on an expensive first date then he doesn't really like her and/or he is only looking for sex. Unfortunately, I think this comes from their friends, chick flicks and romantic novels.
i think its actually the opposite lol. expensive first date = wants to get laid