Good for you ^^
I see your point, and I for most part agree. That's why I said "would", it is just a theoretical feeling.
Exactly. You can't lack physical attraction completely or any click/common interests. Has to be a little bit of both.
Anyways I wouldn't drop my standards. It's not like I've ever been really shallow or picky anyways. I like what I like.
"Girls are very shallow. Much more shallow than guys."Assuming that's true:If they could afford to be, they would
@mikemx55 Many fit good looking guys can afford to be shallow yet a lot drop down their standards to even date chubby girls. Hence BBW. There's no such as BBM now, is there? My point is girls are more shallow than guys by choice.
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Good for you ^^ I'm not virgin either, but not because of dates, but for something that I did out of weakness in the past, sadly.
something out of weakness?
Yes. Those are called prostitutes.
I see your point, but I've actually never aimed for stars... I couldn't live with someone on a level way much higher than mine, I would feel uncomfortable like that.
Even without aiming for the best, the chances are you're still too high. So many guys think that NO girls want them, when it is simply not true. I get looks, smiles from girls every day, but they are certainly not 10's. All I'm saying is that I think it's better to start low and work your way up while you still have time as a relatively young person. Look how people who have a 'normal' dating life do it - they have several partners befoptre marrying 'the one'. Almost nobody finds their perfect match (or highest standard) first time.
Trust me, that's not the case at all :D Not everyone can manage to experiment relationship in their life, some of us are simply undatable. I'm not implying I'm one nor that I'm not, I'm just saying that when you get constantly rejected, even from some girls a lot below average (and I'm not talking about look only), you may feel like there are chances you should just give up. Not saying that I will. It's just a feeling.
Thank you for the advice :)
Dude... I've single my whole life, 5 years are not that big of a deal.
Any specific reason why you have been single? Do girls always turn you down, or are you scared to approach?
Let's say both things. I'm quite scared to approach in a not friendly way, but when I do, the results are tremendous ahahahah!
Girls can afford to do that. Guys can't since girls are much more shallow.
Not at all. It's just that girls are NEVER willing to admit it. Why? Because one thing they hate is being labeled.
@MyUsernameRules I don't think girls are more or less shallow than men. The actual point is that society wants men to be the ones who make the first move, which means women get much more attentions from guys than guys from women, so they can allow themselves being pickier. If I'm not receiving any attention from someone, it's just natural that I will praise the very first one I meet who does that, and if I constantly do, I will be force to choose whose attentions to accept. That's really all, I don't think it has nothing to do with being shallow.
so glad the asker is actually a smart person.
Thank you :) I don't like blaming others for my failures :)
P. S. : Sorry for the double negative at the end, it's how grammar work in my native language and I was distracted.
i think it's always best to look within ourselves, so i agree. lol dont worry, only a troll would get hyped up about a double negative on gag.
Whatever the reasons are, it still makes them more shallow. However, there are so many factors that make girls shallow. Girls are way more shallow when it comes to height than guys. Really tall girls and really short guys are at a big disadvantage but really tall girls still have way more options than really short guys. Tall guys and even shorter guys are way more likely to date tall girls than short girls and even taller girls willing to date short guys. Girls are way more shallow than guys when it comes to income. In modern day where both men and women can make money unlike the past, rarely any girls would date a guy who makes less than then or has a low income. Guys usually don't care much if a girl makes more, less, low income, or even no income. When it comes to body girls are more shallow. You will see way more guys willing to date an overweight girl than girls date an overweight guy. That's why there's BBW and not BBM.
I find it funny how girls complain about how guys like skinny girls when chubby girls are much more desired by guys than chubby guys by girls. Usually chubby guys have to have a lot of money or be really tall in order to be liked by girls. It's also amusing how girls complain about how guys are picky about boob size or ass when there are so many guys dating girls, including good looking and rich guys, dating girls with small or no boobs or ass. Yet very few girls would date a guy who would happen to have a micropenis. When it comes to vagina size or whatever, guys almost never give a shit. There are no measurements when it comes to that because us guys don't care. Also when it comes to race and skin color, girls of all races and skin color are only open to dating a guy who's either white, really light skinned guy of other race like light skinned Latino or Middle Eastern for example, and in some cases black.
If the guy is either brown or dark skinned Indian, brown or dark skinned guy of another race not including African, or East Asian then his chances with girls are almost none. The only way they can get a date is if they are able to compensate for their racial disadvantage. And that can be done by being either tall, rich, or buff. Just look at the East Asian community. East Asian girls would rather date white guys than East Asian guys UNLESS they're able to find an East Asian guy who's either tall, rich, or buff. When it comes to girls of my race, they usually only date rich Indian guys and if not then tall or buff or really light skinned Indian guys. If they can't find either a rich, tall, buff, or really light skinned Indian guy then they either stay single till arranged marriage to the richest guy they or their parents find them or they just date a white guy or a really light skinned guy of another race. Girls are just too predictable.
Forgot to mention the 80/20 theory asker. Do you know what that is? That's a theory that clearly states that 80% of the women in the society are attracted to only 20% of the men who they see as top status. Which is why you see majority of girls only showing interest to guys who are already surrounded by multiple girls. Even taken guys have better shot at girls than single guys. If that's not shallow then I don't know what is. Way more girls are willing to flirt or go for guys who are taken than guys willing to flirt or go for girls who are taken. So no, there is no way in hell guys are equally as shallow as girls. Not even close. Girls are the epitome of shallowness.
Anyways, rather than implying someone isn't smart in a very subtle way, why not present an actual argument to your beliefs? Show me some substance if you do believe both genders are equally shallow! Cause the whole men making the first move statement by the Asker might sound like a good point yet dozens of girls are caught up being only interested in guys who are already surrounded by dozens of girls. They preach love and commitment on and on yet their preferences in guys is very predictable. Enlighten me to why that is fellow smarties.
@MyUsernameRules All you said just confirm my theory. I honestly think you're a little frustrated and unable to rationalize your mind-set...
Being picky and being shallow are two very different kind of concepts. Women choose to reject men much more than men, but not always because they are not good looking. This is just one of the cause, and even with that, there's nothing wrong in having personal tastes.
"The actual point is that society wants men to be the ones who make the first move, which means women get much more attentions from guys than guys from women, so they can allow themselves being pickier. If I'm not receiving any attention from someone, it's just natural that I will praise the very first one I meet who does that, and if I constantly do, I will be force to choose whose attentions to accept."Yet they preach love and commitment a lot. They place a huge importance of love and commitment vocally out loud to everyone. Makes no sense to me that they happen to only be interested in 20% of the guys that are already surrounded by multiple girls or are taken when they care so much more about love and commitment. They would rather risk their chances in being used by these guys for sex than give chances to guys who don't belong in the top 20%.
@MyUsernameRules I've never seen that happens. Most girls I know, if not all of 'em, tend to be totally disinterested in guys who are already in a relationship with someone else, so I can't see what you are talking about.
"Being picky and being shallow are two very different kind of concepts. Women choose to reject men much more than men, but not always because they are not good looking. This is just one of the cause, and even with that, there's nothing wrong in having personal tastes."Oh yeah? Then how come their preferences in guys are so predictable? Tall, rich, or buff guys. White, really light skinned guys, and in some cases black guys way more preferred by girls of all races than guys of other races. Us guys rarely care as much about a girl's race and skin color. And good looking guys have a lot of options yet they are still willing to drop down their standards a lot in dating. Good looking girls rarely do that unless the guys are rich. But hey, going for rich guys is a bigger trait of shallowness. Guys preferences, including really good looking guys with options and attention from girls, have a much more diverse preferences and unpredictable preferences than girls.
"All you said just confirm my theory. I honestly think you're a little frustrated and unable to rationalize your mind-set..."Not at all. Read my posts again. And you're white rather than a brown or dark Indian guy like me so you know your chances are still there no matter what. Try being a brown or dark skinned Indian guy who's neither tall, rich, or buff and then you'll know who's the more shallow gender. And I've stopped approaching girls for good cause being Indian can't get you a girl if you're neither tall, rich, or buff. Seen every other guys like me in my position to know this as a fact. But yeah, I'm always willing to argue about it. I would rather look like a "frustrated" guy than kiss ass to girls and be a "white knight" to gain their approval.
@MyUsernameRules I'm 6'3, white and even though I'm not rich, I'm not poor either. Still never had a girlfriend my whole life. Yes, I'm also not attractive and fat, but the central point is me having a way too friendly approach with women. Also take a walk in Rome, you will see just as many White Man/Black Girl couples as White Girl/Black Man couples.
@MyUsernameRules It has nothing to do with being a white knight. I just talk about my own opinions, I'm not pro men neither pro women. I think feminists are stupid just as MRAs and I have no problem talking shit about any of 'em. I just DON'T wanna blame others for MY OWN FAILURES.
It's cause you're in Italy and not in countries like US, Canada, UK, and Australia where there's much more diversity. If you were elsewhere then your chances would be much better. And by the way, I don't know how many girls would like black guys if they weren't stereotyped to have the biggest penises. I know for a fact that the number wouldn't be the same and it would be much less. You say you're fat but almost every fat girl been in at least one relationship by 25. Can't say the same about fat guys.Try using GAG for some time since you're only Xper3. Especially the How Do I look section. The only way for guys to get answers in How Do I Look section is if they're either white, really light skinned guys of other races, and in some cases black. When a brown or a dark Indian guy, Asian guy, or a brown or dark guy of another race asks then girls rarely ever answer. I asked couple of times and I couldn't get answers from girls at all. I had to literally beg in my updates for opinions.
@MyUsernameRules You know what? Whatever, you are right.
@MyUsernameRules you are ridiculous. lord forgive the girl who made you think of us this way. seriously dude, get a life and go meet some proper women rather than sitting there making what are quite empty excuses for yourself. quit spamming.
wilkes888. wordpress. com/2013/02/08/my-final-blog-entry-love-you-all/Take the time to read this if you don't wanna take my word. You can't present me with any substance or sources to prove me otherwise but instead taking direct shots at me to help your cause. That's a sign of a person with no argument. If he or she has to resort to name calling and taking personal shots. Spamming? This is GAG. A message board! Why did you volunteer to have a U next to your name? Just to look cool or popular? Because I was arguing with the Asker. If you're in this site as a member, deal with it. If you have a U or an M or an A next to your name, you are "ridiculous" for telling me to quit "spamming" when I'm only doing what I'm meant to do in this site. Which is to discuss or argue about any given topic.
@MyUsernameRules wow, next level messed up. i feel sorry for u.
@MyUsernameRules You seem to really be the one focusing on all this stuff more than anyone else. You have actually checked what guys get more attention based on looks than others on this site and are talking all about looks here. First, I am tall and you would be surprised at how many guys, taller than me, still prefer very short girls. Or, guys my height think I want really tall guys, is it a preference, but not necessary. Without a doubt, that goes both ways. Also, there are plenty of attractive people out there but until I talk to them and know what they are like I could care less about their physical attractiveness. Do I need to be attracted to the person I am dating, of course, but I prefer the unassuming ones, not the ones that every girl likes, so no, I would not be one of the girls surrounding the attractive guys. I also do not like buff guys by any means. Also, not every guy would date a chubby girl, but I also know many girls that like chubby guys, that is also preference.
Women will usually date someone with a little extra weight also. Maybe when girls are younger looks matter more, because I have to say I for one am at the point to where I have to be attracted to someone based on MY preferences because everyones are different! But I have to make sure they are really good guys and personality always makes attraction stronger, or less strong depending. I feel it is the exact same for guys, they have their preferences too. I have a feeling that maybe your friends get more attention from women or you have had bad dating experiences that make you feel this way because you have yet to find someone you click with and have a mutual attraction for, but you will, just stop blaming women's shallowness for this.
what she said
Good for you ^^But I have to admit you don't look like you are someone who would find hard dating...
Are you kidding the struggle is real 😥!
No, why should I be kidding? You're an attractive lady, unless you have some bitch behavior or some personality disorder I don't see how you would find it hard...
I'm just too picky I guess, not only look wise but also on a mental level - but that's okay as long as someone who matches my criteria comes along once in a while :P
Ah okay, so your struggles come from you don't wanting to commit with somebody else, not from the other way around, that makes much more sense :)
It's not really about commitment but more about finding the right person but either way it's my choice.
Yes, of course ^^
I hope so...
Yeah, you also look quite younger than 99 :D
Nono, my standards are already pretty low. Is women standards which are too high for me competing ahahahahaha!
Yeah i know, i am talking in general...And yes i agree some girls standarts are really really high, thats why i don't have any...
Nono, I'm not saying that girls standards are high, I was just joking about myself :D
Okey what ever :D:D
You're a girl so you can afford to do that since girls are shallower than guys.
@MyUsernameRules I'm not a shallow person. I never have been. I have reasonable standards, but they aren't so high that they are unattainable.
True, that's why I'm not doing it yet.
No, I'm talking for dating, I'm not into casual things. And as I said, "Lower to zero".
Well, lower standards on its own is not a bad thing, in my opinion...
May I ask you why?
meh I am just find relationship to be a lot of work.
I see, probably right, but I think it's something I would sacrifice for.
yeah I guess. But after get hurt so many times u would understand. I am tired of working with someone and than letting me down cuz because of something stupid or bc they found a better girl.
I see, I think everyone is made out of each own experiences.
hahah! (: Yup! I already made my choice single for life.
Women don't eat that much :D
It is also nice to listen to a different point of view ^^ Thank you for sharing!
Really? That's a first one! May I ask you why?
He's not alone. It's better to wait for something you like then just take someone for the sake of not being single. That's just desperate. Think about it this way. It's like you're looking for a job. Would you rather take a job that is shitty and doesn't pay well just to have a job or would you rather wait until you find something that actually pays?
@bloodmountain1990 I would actually say the first one. Even finding an unpaid internship job is hard as fuck in Italy in this very moment :D
I'm sorry to hear that.