Nah if feels too much like quitting to me. It feels like abandoning unforeseen opportunities at any given time. That isn't how I live my life. I never surrender anything.
You asked what it stood for? I told you.. I am not here to educate people on this lifestyle choice. Most people can google it in 10 secs.. i guess some can't.
@coachTanthony It's not my damn job to look up stuff. You shouldn't be too lazy and assumptive that everybody would know what it stands for. You're the asker. It is your job to leave no doubt about it what you're trying to present to the g@g community.
Are you for real woman? There's no such things as wgtow because women need men to run this planet correctly and keep it stable while women are out spending other mens money
Men are the productive... women are the consumers. Women are born... men are made. If women weren't valued for her beauty, fertility and reproduction... she'd be plain useless.
You chat shit, serves you right for investing in usually violent badboys, pretty boy players and tall jacked douchbags rather than the good caring guys. Female sexuality is a mental illness because they dont reward good men with sex. This is why the planet is ruled by currupt physcopaths because women bad people with sex. Female attraction is irrational and should be monitored as dangerous.
@SinghSong it's not the same and I'm tired of trying to educate ignorant people. Y'all have the internet. Even if I did, you're all so close minded that you wouldn't listen. So I don't care if you guys remain ignorant.
We are human beings and individuals, just the same as you are. So if you want to be so close-minded as to say that "all you men are the same, you're all pig-ignorant dogs", then go ahead. I just hope for your sake that, with an attitude like that towards men, you're a lesbian. Because like you yourself admitted, you'll certainly find it impossible to please any man.
because its human psychology, if a group of men do something which offends/hurts you, then you secretly wish that this group of men are people who you dont have to deal with anyway. People make up all kinds of things in their head to make themselves feel better. If mgtow guys where all gay, then that wouldn't affect your dating life. However since in reality majority if not all mgtow guys are straight, and also rapidly increasing in number, this means that it is going to affect your dating life negatively, unless you already managed to marry someone, regardless it will hurt and affect your fellow women as a whole.
I'm not offended... I'm not even affected. In fact, I'd be more offended if they were gay, since that means they aren't even attracted to women, and women want to be desired.
I've never, not once, heard of MGTOW in real life, so as far as I'm concerned it's the smallest "threat" I have to deal with. In contrast, I see many men getting married. I, myself, am not married, but I've already had quite a few men interested in a serious relationship with me.
its easy to say that, but considering your initial comment im very sure of that you are offended and affected by this movement. And if mgtow was only for gays the movement would have to be much smaller as the gay community is so small. But it doesn't even make sense since gay men would pretty much never marry or have sex with a woman in the first place. Mgtow is very big but it is kept hidden for the main reason that most mgtow guys such as myself still sleep with women, and if we talked openly about mgtow it would be much harder to get laid.
Well, I don't remember ever asking you about your thoughts, or caring about them for that matter. Maybe so, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the movement was started by a secretly gay man. No, gay men wouldn't get married or have sex with women, but if they are secretly gay they would need a reason not to, and they probably want other men to do the same.
Where's the logic in that? Firstly, there's no point of having a movement that no one is aware of... Which could maybe explain why most women call men fuckboys, instead of being aware of why men only want to sleep with them. Secondly, you doing such a thing makes you no better than the women that screw you over. Besides all of that, I know more men that are in relationships than men that aren't, so the movement is clearly not that big. And if you can't stand fully behind a movement because you can't keep from wanting to get laid, then you probably aren't serious enough about it, which makes you useless to its cause.
i don't care if you care about my thoughts or not, i don't care about you, you're just another anonymous idiot. however, when you put out an opinion online, expect to get responses, especially when you are posting nonsense.
And a gay man would be smart enough to realize that straight males who go mgtow still would not date men because their sexual orientation doesn't change. So no, mgtow was not started by a gay man and a gay man by definition has no reason to go mgtow. Sorry but you're simply wrong.
And no, the movement is not useless, as more and more men are avoiding marriage every day. And while each individual man might have his intentions hidden, the statistics show that the result of these actions are not hidden. So many women are complaining about man drought, and it will make society collapse in the long run because without men marrying and having children, society cannot sustain itself.
And of course mgtow men are far superior to women, women didn't screw each of us over, but we have seen them do it to other men, just looking at the laws and how women are biologically inferior to us but still demand equality, it makes no sense to commit to them under these conditions. And sleeping with women does not diminish the movements cause, because as long as we don't marry women, and birthrates are going down, the final results of the movement will still happen. its inevitable. And by the way just because you know more men in relationships than not means nothing, i know more single men who only fuck around compared to those in relationships, and relationships is still not the same as marriage, most men today do not want to get married, and women are getting unhappier by every decade. Many men still cheat under a relationship, because when there is no marriage they don't have to worry about getting divorced.
@alphadoggystyle Germany is a good example because of legalised prostitution the birth rate is very low and men are doing fine without women. Once men have found an outlet to sex then women are really obsolete to a man's life really.
Prostitution in Germany and Amsterdam places as such are proof that legalising it shouldn't be an issue. Over in the US and in most western countries i dont know why it's illegal. Women dont want men to have a sexual outlet and want us to put up with their bs like good little dogs and have sex handed to us like a Scoobie snack whenever we behave to what she wants from a man.
All I can say is even if prostitution doesn't become legalised, sex robots are still the horizon for man. China is already designing them for their own people and it's apparently making big business. Soon that will head to west eventually and feminists will something more to deal with rather than free the nipple movements because sex robots will be the day men hold all the cards in the sexual market.
Just imagine how realistic sex robots will become in next 20year. Dont believe me... watch the American television series 'Humans'.
@alphadoggystyle So what if I get responses? I could easily not reply to you if I choose not to. Your sexual orientation doesn't even have to change, men are way more fluid in their orientation than they are willing to admit. If all women, for example, went extinct, many more men would start sleeping with each other.
Actually, it does matter. That's like a child crying about being bullied, while the parents think he/she is crying about a lost toy. The reason behind an action matters a lot, especially if you're looking for a certain outcome. "Without men marrying and having children, society cannot sustain itself" You do realize that marriage didn't even exist once, right? It's not even something natural, for it to qualify as a necessity for survival.
Biologically inferior? Is that what you call a person that has all the responsibilities of reproduction? The fact of the matter is, men would be utterly worthless if they didn't take on the responsibilities of survival, because...
... females do everything else to maintain the species.
It's proven that unhappiness is linked to intelligence... Maybe they're less happy because they have more knowledge of the world around them, instead of always staying at home and taking care of children. Besides that, everyone is unhappier nowadays, and it has mainly to do with technological advancement. So, don't talk about women's happiness as if you even give a damn, because it's very obvious that you don't. You're just trying to push your own pathetic agenda..
Mrwoo99 What's the problem with the birth rate being low? It's actually what people are hoping for, since we're overpopulated. What irks me is the average man's low standards, hypocrisy, and inability to keep it in his pants. Prostitution wouldn't even exist if men weren't such sex-crazed monsters, and guess what? Women wouldn't be able to use sex as a weapon against you either. I know, shocking! Isn't it? Even though, I doubt most do.
... robots, enough men are still going to want to sleep with real women because the main goal, whether obvious to you or not, is the continuation of the species. Sex robots will just be a high improvement in masturbation techniques. Either way, women expecting more from men is actually a blessing in disguise for you guys, because the main reason most men even make something of themselves is due to women.
Then dont complain when you get responses, in fact you should expect responses when you type nonsense in a public forum. And i dont care if you reply or not, as this discussion is basically over already, as you dont have any argument. You already lost. The whole gay thing is nonsense, it makes no sense whatsoever for a gay man to go mgtow, as mgtow is a movement of straight men abandoning commitment to women. And gay men never wanted to commit to women in the first place, and vast majority of men won't change sexual orientation even when going mgtow. You also forget that women are not extinct. So mgtow men can still sleep with women without diminishing the movement at all, and there is also porn, prostitutes, and in the near future virtual reality porn and sex robots. No need for any straight male to "go gay"
And no, it does not matter in this case, your analogy does not make any sense. mgtow is about avoiding commitment to women, because under the current laws it is a heavy risk for men to commit to women. Sleeping with women does not contradict that. Having sex is not commitment. the goal of mgtow is to make the current society collapse so a new one can emerge with different rules (with stronger patriarchy) , and it is inevitable because our modern society cannot be sustained without a large group of work able men for each next generation. Of course we survived before marriage but those times where very primitive, CURRENT society with all of our luxuries such as roads, clean water, plenty of food and gadgets and massproduced technology and cars and fortified buildings. none of that can last without a large group of worker men. If the population dwindles it will collapse, this is also partly why so many young migrant men are allowed into western countries.
And no, women are utterly worthless and biologically inferior compared to men. Women give birth and that is the only value she has. While men do 95% of everything else better than women. Both men and women are needed for procreation but everything else such as building tools and inventions, protecting us from dangers, its all done by men. The only reason humans made it as far as we did is because of men. the females of all mammals have the ability to give birth, but only the human male did something which was not expected based on biological instincts and functions, and invented civilization. And dont tell me what to do, i do whatever i want, i didn't even say that i care about womens happiness, the fact is however that men are about as happy today as they where before but women have become significantly more unhappy in the last 5 decades, and it is mainly because of feminism. Women like special treatment but they are getting less and less of that from men.
Who the hell complained? Do you always make crap up to make yourself feel like you have an argument? Lost? lol You must have gotten one hell of a prize. Does the GAG team hand those out to the winners? This is really upsetting...
You keep telling yourself that what you're doing is for MGTOW everytime you get in between a girl's legs. I'm sure you'll eventually manage to convince yourself it's the truth.
Porn and robots aren't the same, prostitutes won't be used by a man that has any respect for people. Either way, you're basically in a gay movement, which is probably why you're so offended. Goodbye now.
You did complain when you said you didn't ask for my opinion/thoughts. Dont try to backtrack. You just look more stupid and pathetic with every post. I dont make up crap because the things i post are based on facts, unlike you who only post crap based on emotions.
Im spreading mgtow redpill knowledge for young men on sites like this, making life more difficult for women as it will be more difficult for them to manipulate men for our resources, and since i am anonymous, it doesn't affect my ability to get laid which i do because it is an biological urge. its also good for women to hear about redpill knowledge, because you truly cannot do anything to change this or stop mgtow, all we have to do is avoiding commitment. Women need us more than we need them, which is why it cannot be stopped. The only thing women can do is become more humble and let go of many of their benefits that feminism has given them at the cost of men, after those things are gone, men will be back again. And then the mgtow movement would have fulfilled its purpose. the only question is if the collapse will happen first or if women/feminists will accept a significant reform before that. Either way us men wins.
it was a complaint, and a stupid statement. when you are writing something in a public forum, you are inviting responses, thats how a forum works but you apparantly dont even understand that. And i dont care about your time or you, its not something someone needs to be worthy of. Im superior to you and my time is more valuable than yours, know your place women, under my shoes.
You're just lucky I can't stay away from arguments when the opponent is an idiot...
Guess what? A species main role is reproduction and survival, whether you're human or not. Women have to spend 9 month impregnated, a few other getting back from it, and many years taking care of the child, which is often (especially back then) more than one. They do all of that. Now, tell me, what do men have to offer for the continuation of the species? That's right, nothing else but survival. And, have you forgotten that women are humans too? Which means, we also have thumb opposition ability, we are basically almost as smart as men are. If it weren't for us being busy with reproduction and being kept down by men, we would've done way more than we already have. You're so beyond delusional that you can't even see that, and then you call me the emotional one... lolol
Just the fact that you talk to people that way is enough to convince me that I'm better than you.
In that case this makes no sense as Im not an idiot but you are in fact an idiot. So i guess you just cannot stop responding when you know you are wrong and someone corrects you.
And you talk as if women having babies is something we should be thankful for, you dont understand how nature works, women where designed to have babies, and you cannot do it on your own, you need to get impregnated by a man, and to survive during pregnancy you need men to protect and provide for you. So the whole reproduction thing is moot, it cancels out with men and women being equally necessary for reproduction. But men are also needed for everything else. Its not me who is delusional, its you who are, you are wrong and i am correct. I am vastly superior to you and nothing you say can ever change that fact. Men did not keep women down, biology kept you down and if men treated women the same as we treat other men humanity would not have survived. But you are too emotional to realize that.
"... You need men to protect and provide for you."
No, that very clearly goes into survival, not reproduction. The only thing you give towards reproduction is your sperm, which takes like two seconds to give, so it doesn't even really count as giving anything up. Besides, if you give sperm, then it still evens out since women actually do more than just reproduce. But, I'm referring to main roles here...
nope, because if a man leaves you after you got pregnant the child would not survive, especially in a society before we had tax expenditure and health care, and child support etc.
If women expect to survive those 9 months during pregnancy she needs to be protected and provided for, she would be to weak and slow to defend and provide for herself. So anything a man does during that period to ensure the survival of the child is also for reproduction, not just survival, so essentially what the man does is more impressive compared to what the woman does.
the most laughable strawman i have ever heard. Overall, main role or not, men do more to ensure the survival of the species (which obviously includes reproduction), than women do.
Men's main role in reproduction is giving their sperm, that's it really. Spin the definition of the word all you want, but it doesn't change the facts. Women have to spend 9 months pregnant, a few years breast feeding, and then... basically raising it (survival). Not to mention, they have to do this multiple times, since many people have more than one child. Men better do something with all the time they have in their hands besides sleep around...
sorry but you are still wrong and the only one here spinning things are you. You are not stating any facts at all, the things i have been saying is fact. Men contribute more overall to reproduction as well as the survival of the species. Because if men didn't provide and protect women during their pregnancy, as well as at all other times, then barely any children would have survived, and most would probably be stillborn if the mother didn't get enough food during pregnancy. So again men are contributing more. The only main difference now compared to back in the stone age, is that instead of hoping you would get help and resources directly from the man who fathered your children, women now also have the state along with the laws which supports them with reproductive rights which men lack.
Its you who are illogical and biased. Everything i said here was logical and based on fact, wheter i am biased or not doesn't change anything because the facts are out there for anyone to see, its just that biased stupid people like you refuse to see it because you would rather be in denial than admitting that you where in fact wrong. So no, mgtow is for smart straight men. its smarter for a man to be mgtow compared to a man who wants to get married because of reasons i have already explained.
Same here bro, same here. I believe in if relationships or marriage isn't for you then don't bother. Same for children and having kids. There's really no need to hate, blame, belittle the opposite gender frequently or constantly, geez. If they want to vent their frustrations with the opposite gender I can understand, but being like that 24/7 all year round constantly, c'mon...
@JudgmentDay Yes but that's easy for us to say. I'm not sure I'd be so calm if I had my children taken from me, was imprisoned, falsely accused, was the victim of paternity fraud or discovered my children weren't mind. It is very easy for those of us that haven't suffered to dismiss their anger. No one is forcing us to listen to their 24/7 rants either.
@Mrwoo99 I think they are guys who lack a social life and maybe blame women for all of their problems. Seriously, have they talk to women in their life?
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Nah if feels too much like quitting to me. It feels like abandoning unforeseen opportunities at any given time. That isn't how I live my life. I never surrender anything.
It would be of help if I knew what MGTOW stood for. Since you didn't tell, I wouldn't know.
Men going their own way
@coachTanthony
Their own way where? Geez, you are so vague and expect people to know what you're talking about.
You asked what it stood for? I told you.. I am not here to educate people on this lifestyle choice. Most people can google it in 10 secs.. i guess some can't.
@coachTanthony
It's not my damn job to look up stuff. You shouldn't be too lazy and assumptive that everybody would know what it stands for. You're the asker. It is your job to leave no doubt about it what you're trying to present to the g@g community.
LMAO I am now going MGTOW
Did you just call me a name? That is against GAG community rules. And very hurtful of you. How could you?
Loll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itssbnzkFf0
I would never go MGTOW.
NOOOOOOOOO never male version of feminism
my god wants us together not separated
I think they're basement dwellers who only talk to their mothers
I was never one or never would be
id never go mgtow i like women too much and they like me <3
Sure but besides sex... what is there? Whiny, mind gaming and drama.
Not to mention the financial, time and energy drain
I'm WGTOW. Because men are impossible tu please
It's more of a "it'll never happen so why bother having hopes to let me down" type of deal.
It's much easier to give up than to keep waiting for something that was never meant for me
oh, you seem like a good person, I'm sure you'll find someone
@Waffles731 Meh
I'm not
WGTOW... sounds lovely LOL
Are you for real woman? There's no such things as wgtow because women need men to run this planet correctly and keep it stable while women are out spending other mens money
Men are the productive... women are the consumers. Women are born... men are made. If women weren't valued for her beauty, fertility and reproduction... she'd be plain useless.
@Mrwoo99 yes because the men I dated, who I made more money than and I bought gifts, paid the dates etc, I was TOTALLY using for their money.
Take your misogyny elsewhere please
You chat shit, serves you right for investing in usually violent badboys, pretty boy players and tall jacked douchbags rather than the good caring guys. Female sexuality is a mental illness because they dont reward good men with sex. This is why the planet is ruled by currupt physcopaths because women bad people with sex. Female attraction is irrational and should be monitored as dangerous.
@Mrwoo99
Do you realize just how insane you sound?
@Mrwoo99 your irrational and should be monitored as dangerous
@Waffles731 lol I know right
Good. The same thing for girls.
seriously, you'll find someone you seem awesome
Isn't that just the same thing as being a feminist?
@SinghSong no. And I'm in no mood to educate ignorant people
How is it different? And how are you not in the mood to 'educate ignorant people'? I thought that was literally all you did here on GaG, Buchita.
@SinghSong it's not the same and I'm tired of trying to educate ignorant people. Y'all have the internet. Even if I did, you're all so close minded that you wouldn't listen. So I don't care if you guys remain ignorant.
We are human beings and individuals, just the same as you are. So if you want to be so close-minded as to say that "all you men are the same, you're all pig-ignorant dogs", then go ahead. I just hope for your sake that, with an attitude like that towards men, you're a lesbian. Because like you yourself admitted, you'll certainly find it impossible to please any man.
@SinghSong I never said all men are ignorant, just you and many on here.
I don't need to be lesbian, I'm wgtow
Men are not hard to please... maybe you're just too fat.
@Mrwoo99 lol i wish
It's a possibility in the future i'd turn to this, but I highly doubt I will.
I think it's for men who are secretly gay.
No, but you wish it was.
You're insulting the gays!
@alphadoggystyle … Why would I wish that?
because its human psychology, if a group of men do something which offends/hurts you, then you secretly wish that this group of men are people who you dont have to deal with anyway. People make up all kinds of things in their head to make themselves feel better. If mgtow guys where all gay, then that wouldn't affect your dating life. However since in reality majority if not all mgtow guys are straight, and also rapidly increasing in number, this means that it is going to affect your dating life negatively, unless you already managed to marry someone, regardless it will hurt and affect your fellow women as a whole.
I'm not offended... I'm not even affected. In fact, I'd be more offended if they were gay, since that means they aren't even attracted to women, and women want to be desired.
I've never, not once, heard of MGTOW in real life, so as far as I'm concerned it's the smallest "threat" I have to deal with. In contrast, I see many men getting married. I, myself, am not married, but I've already had quite a few men interested in a serious relationship with me.
its easy to say that, but considering your initial comment im very sure of that you are offended and affected by this movement. And if mgtow was only for gays the movement would have to be much smaller as the gay community is so small. But it doesn't even make sense since gay men would pretty much never marry or have sex with a woman in the first place.
Mgtow is very big but it is kept hidden for the main reason that most mgtow guys such as myself still sleep with women, and if we talked openly about mgtow it would be much harder to get laid.
Well, I don't remember ever asking you about your thoughts, or caring about them for that matter. Maybe so, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the movement was started by a secretly gay man. No, gay men wouldn't get married or have sex with women, but if they are secretly gay they would need a reason not to, and they probably want other men to do the same.
Where's the logic in that? Firstly, there's no point of having a movement that no one is aware of... Which could maybe explain why most women call men fuckboys, instead of being aware of why men only want to sleep with them. Secondly, you doing such a thing makes you no better than the women that screw you over. Besides all of that, I know more men that are in relationships than men that aren't, so the movement is clearly not that big. And if you can't stand fully behind a movement because you can't keep from wanting to get laid, then you probably aren't serious enough about it, which makes you useless to its cause.
I'm a mgtow and still sleep with women. I just rather sleep with whores instead.
i don't care if you care about my thoughts or not, i don't care about you, you're just another anonymous idiot. however, when you put out an opinion online, expect to get responses, especially when you are posting nonsense.
And a gay man would be smart enough to realize that straight males who go mgtow still would not date men because their sexual orientation doesn't change. So no, mgtow was not started by a gay man and a gay man by definition has no reason to go mgtow. Sorry but you're simply wrong.
And no, the movement is not useless, as more and more men are avoiding marriage every day. And while each individual man might have his intentions hidden, the statistics show that the result of these actions are not hidden. So many women are complaining about man drought, and it will make society collapse in the long run because without men marrying and having children, society cannot sustain itself.
And of course mgtow men are far superior to women, women didn't screw each of us over, but we have seen them do it to other men, just looking at the laws and how women are biologically inferior to us but still demand equality, it makes no sense to commit to them under these conditions. And sleeping with women does not diminish the movements cause, because as long as we don't marry women, and birthrates are going down, the final results of the movement will still happen. its inevitable. And by the way just because you know more men in relationships than not means nothing, i know more single men who only fuck around compared to those in relationships, and relationships is still not the same as marriage, most men today do not want to get married, and women are getting unhappier by every decade. Many men still cheat under a relationship, because when there is no marriage they don't have to worry about getting divorced.
@alphadoggystyle Germany is a good example because of legalised prostitution the birth rate is very low and men are doing fine without women. Once men have found an outlet to sex then women are really obsolete to a man's life really.
@Mrwoo99 exactly. feminists know this which is why so many of them are desperately trying to keep prostitution illegal in most western countries.
Prostitution in Germany and Amsterdam places as such are proof that legalising it shouldn't be an issue. Over in the US and in most western countries i dont know why it's illegal. Women dont want men to have a sexual outlet and want us to put up with their bs like good little dogs and have sex handed to us like a Scoobie snack whenever we behave to what she wants from a man.
All I can say is even if prostitution doesn't become legalised, sex robots are still the horizon for man. China is already designing them for their own people and it's apparently making big business. Soon that will head to west eventually and feminists will something more to deal with rather than free the nipple movements because sex robots will be the day men hold all the cards in the sexual market.
Just imagine how realistic sex robots will become in next 20year. Dont believe me... watch the American television series 'Humans'.
@Mrwoo99 Thanks to you all I think this post is going to live forever! LOL
No problem, It's a question that needs to be asked.
@alphadoggystyle So what if I get responses? I could easily not reply to you if I choose not to. Your sexual orientation doesn't even have to change, men are way more fluid in their orientation than they are willing to admit. If all women, for example, went extinct, many more men would start sleeping with each other.
Actually, it does matter. That's like a child crying about being bullied, while the parents think he/she is crying about a lost toy. The reason behind an action matters a lot, especially if you're looking for a certain outcome. "Without men marrying and having children, society cannot sustain itself" You do realize that marriage didn't even exist once, right? It's not even something natural, for it to qualify as a necessity for survival.
Biologically inferior? Is that what you call a person that has all the responsibilities of reproduction? The fact of the matter is, men would be utterly worthless if they didn't take on the responsibilities of survival, because...
... females do everything else to maintain the species.
It's proven that unhappiness is linked to intelligence... Maybe they're less happy because they have more knowledge of the world around them, instead of always staying at home and taking care of children. Besides that, everyone is unhappier nowadays, and it has mainly to do with technological advancement. So, don't talk about women's happiness as if you even give a damn, because it's very obvious that you don't. You're just trying to push your own pathetic agenda..
Mrwoo99 What's the problem with the birth rate being low? It's actually what people are hoping for, since we're overpopulated. What irks me is the average man's low standards, hypocrisy, and inability to keep it in his pants. Prostitution wouldn't even exist if men weren't such sex-crazed monsters, and guess what? Women wouldn't be able to use sex as a weapon against you either. I know, shocking! Isn't it? Even though, I doubt most do.
In regards to the sex...
... robots, enough men are still going to want to sleep with real women because the main goal, whether obvious to you or not, is the continuation of the species. Sex robots will just be a high improvement in masturbation techniques. Either way, women expecting more from men is actually a blessing in disguise for you guys, because the main reason most men even make something of themselves is due to women.
Then dont complain when you get responses, in fact you should expect responses when you type nonsense in a public forum. And i dont care if you reply or not, as this discussion is basically over already, as you dont have any argument. You already lost.
The whole gay thing is nonsense, it makes no sense whatsoever for a gay man to go mgtow, as mgtow is a movement of straight men abandoning commitment to women. And gay men never wanted to commit to women in the first place, and vast majority of men won't change sexual orientation even when going mgtow. You also forget that women are not extinct. So mgtow men can still sleep with women without diminishing the movement at all, and there is also porn, prostitutes, and in the near future virtual reality porn and sex robots. No need for any straight male to "go gay"
And no, it does not matter in this case, your analogy does not make any sense. mgtow is about avoiding commitment to women, because under the current laws it is a heavy risk for men to commit to women. Sleeping with women does not contradict that. Having sex is not commitment. the goal of mgtow is to make the current society collapse so a new one can emerge with different rules (with stronger patriarchy) , and it is inevitable because our modern society cannot be sustained without a large group of work able men for each next generation.
Of course we survived before marriage but those times where very primitive, CURRENT society with all of our luxuries such as roads, clean water, plenty of food and gadgets and massproduced technology and cars and fortified buildings. none of that can last without a large group of worker men. If the population dwindles it will collapse, this is also partly why so many young migrant men are allowed into western countries.
And no, women are utterly worthless and biologically inferior compared to men. Women give birth and that is the only value she has. While men do 95% of everything else better than women. Both men and women are needed for procreation but everything else such as building tools and inventions, protecting us from dangers, its all done by men. The only reason humans made it as far as we did is because of men. the females of all mammals have the ability to give birth, but only the human male did something which was not expected based on biological instincts and functions, and invented civilization.
And dont tell me what to do, i do whatever i want, i didn't even say that i care about womens happiness, the fact is however that men are about as happy today as they where before but women have become significantly more unhappy in the last 5 decades, and it is mainly because of feminism. Women like special treatment but they are getting less and less of that from men.
Who the hell complained? Do you always make crap up to make yourself feel like you have an argument? Lost? lol You must have gotten one hell of a prize. Does the GAG team hand those out to the winners? This is really upsetting...
You keep telling yourself that what you're doing is for MGTOW everytime you get in between a girl's legs. I'm sure you'll eventually manage to convince yourself it's the truth.
Porn and robots aren't the same, prostitutes won't be used by a man that has any respect for people. Either way, you're basically in a gay movement, which is probably why you're so offended. Goodbye now.
... I didn't realize you had any more to say, either way you're wrong, so why bother?
Goodbye.
You did complain when you said you didn't ask for my opinion/thoughts. Dont try to backtrack. You just look more stupid and pathetic with every post. I dont make up crap because the things i post are based on facts, unlike you who only post crap based on emotions.
Im spreading mgtow redpill knowledge for young men on sites like this, making life more difficult for women as it will be more difficult for them to manipulate men for our resources, and since i am anonymous, it doesn't affect my ability to get laid which i do because it is an biological urge.
its also good for women to hear about redpill knowledge, because you truly cannot do anything to change this or stop mgtow, all we have to do is avoiding commitment. Women need us more than we need them, which is why it cannot be stopped. The only thing women can do is become more humble and let go of many of their benefits that feminism has given them at the cost of men, after those things are gone, men will be back again. And then the mgtow movement would have fulfilled its purpose. the only question is if the collapse will happen first or if women/feminists will accept a significant reform before that. Either way us men wins.
That wasn't a complaint, that was simply a fact. Now, go away. Men like you aren't worthy of anything, let alone my time.
it was a complaint, and a stupid statement. when you are writing something in a public forum, you are inviting responses, thats how a forum works but you apparantly dont even understand that. And i dont care about your time or you, its not something someone needs to be worthy of. Im superior to you and my time is more valuable than yours, know your place women, under my shoes.
You're just lucky I can't stay away from arguments when the opponent is an idiot...
Guess what? A species main role is reproduction and survival, whether you're human or not. Women have to spend 9 month impregnated, a few other getting back from it, and many years taking care of the child, which is often (especially back then) more than one. They do all of that. Now, tell me, what do men have to offer for the continuation of the species? That's right, nothing else but survival. And, have you forgotten that women are humans too? Which means, we also have thumb opposition ability, we are basically almost as smart as men are. If it weren't for us being busy with reproduction and being kept down by men, we would've done way more than we already have. You're so beyond delusional that you can't even see that, and then you call me the emotional one... lolol
Just the fact that you talk to people that way is enough to convince me that I'm better than you.
In that case this makes no sense as Im not an idiot but you are in fact an idiot. So i guess you just cannot stop responding when you know you are wrong and someone corrects you.
And you talk as if women having babies is something we should be thankful for, you dont understand how nature works, women where designed to have babies, and you cannot do it on your own, you need to get impregnated by a man, and to survive during pregnancy you need men to protect and provide for you. So the whole reproduction thing is moot, it cancels out with men and women being equally necessary for reproduction. But men are also needed for everything else. Its not me who is delusional, its you who are, you are wrong and i am correct. I am vastly superior to you and nothing you say can ever change that fact. Men did not keep women down, biology kept you down and if men treated women the same as we treat other men humanity would not have survived. But you are too emotional to realize that.
"... You need men to protect and provide for you."
No, that very clearly goes into survival, not reproduction. The only thing you give towards reproduction is your sperm, which takes like two seconds to give, so it doesn't even really count as giving anything up. Besides, if you give sperm, then it still evens out since women actually do more than just reproduce. But, I'm referring to main roles here...
nope, because if a man leaves you after you got pregnant the child would not survive, especially in a society before we had tax expenditure and health care, and child support etc.
If women expect to survive those 9 months during pregnancy she needs to be protected and provided for, she would be to weak and slow to defend and provide for herself. So anything a man does during that period to ensure the survival of the child is also for reproduction, not just survival, so essentially what the man does is more impressive compared to what the woman does.
I repeat, I'm referring to main roles. Since, it's clear that women also take steps to ensure survival...
the most laughable strawman i have ever heard. Overall, main role or not, men do more to ensure the survival of the species (which obviously includes reproduction), than women do.
Men's main role in reproduction is giving their sperm, that's it really. Spin the definition of the word all you want, but it doesn't change the facts. Women have to spend 9 months pregnant, a few years breast feeding, and then... basically raising it (survival). Not to mention, they have to do this multiple times, since many people have more than one child.
Men better do something with all the time they have in their hands besides sleep around...
sorry but you are still wrong and the only one here spinning things are you. You are not stating any facts at all, the things i have been saying is fact. Men contribute more overall to reproduction as well as the survival of the species. Because if men didn't provide and protect women during their pregnancy, as well as at all other times, then barely any children would have survived, and most would probably be stillborn if the mother didn't get enough food during pregnancy. So again men are contributing more. The only main difference now compared to back in the stone age, is that instead of hoping you would get help and resources directly from the man who fathered your children, women now also have the state along with the laws which supports them with reproductive rights which men lack.
lol I sincerely hope not all MGTOW men are as illogical and biased as you are.
If so, I change my original post to it's for men who are stupid.
Its you who are illogical and biased. Everything i said here was logical and based on fact, wheter i am biased or not doesn't change anything because the facts are out there for anyone to see, its just that biased stupid people like you refuse to see it because you would rather be in denial than admitting that you where in fact wrong.
So no, mgtow is for smart straight men. its smarter for a man to be mgtow compared to a man who wants to get married because of reasons i have already explained.
am not and would never go mgtow
Not me. That movement has nothing to do with me.
Same here bro, same here. I believe in if relationships or marriage isn't for you then don't bother. Same for children and having kids. There's really no need to hate, blame, belittle the opposite gender frequently or constantly, geez. If they want to vent their frustrations with the opposite gender I can understand, but being like that 24/7 all year round constantly, c'mon...
@JudgmentDay Yes but that's easy for us to say. I'm not sure I'd be so calm if I had my children taken from me, was imprisoned, falsely accused, was the victim of paternity fraud or discovered my children weren't mind. It is very easy for those of us that haven't suffered to dismiss their anger. No one is forcing us to listen to their 24/7 rants either.
I can't because I'm not a man.
Not me, I think guys in MGTOW are plain stupid
Why?
@Mrwoo99 I think they are guys who lack a social life and maybe blame women for all of their problems. Seriously, have they talk to women in their life?
Four girls have gone MGTOW! Smh
I'm normal, so I'll never be a part of that.
Yes I am cuz girls are worthless fake lover