Are there really men who take care of and spoil their girlfriends, out there? (Page 2)
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I can't speak for all men but I'm pretty sure that it's a fucking fairy tale. Listen, most men don't want the 80/20 relationship where men have to spoil their girlfriends and shit. However, men do spoil their girlfriends naturally to some degree. In fact, it's a natural instinct that men have to be the gift givers. However, we won't pay for every meal nor will we comply to the "masculine and feminine roles" in a relationship because it's a stupid construct.
I have gone out on dates with men who have gotten offended after I offered to pay for my own food. You may not pay for every meal, but I would say most guys do. And those are the types of guys worthwhile.
Listen, you don't know all guys. I've hung out with guys for most of my life. You don't want a guy like that, trust me. I'm also a bi guy so I've dated guys too.
Uh, by stating your friends have men like that, didn't you answer your own question?
Are you one of those guys?
Well, I think I've made the women I've dated feel special. As far as spending lavishly, some of them made more than I did, so I didn't do a lot of that. But I certainly did things like give them rides, help them move, or whatever.
There's lots of men who are willing to, but every woman I've ever tried to spoil hasn't been receptive to it at all.
I give my girlfriend whatever she wants... she would never ask for stuff i just buy her a lot of stuff like shoes clothes etc etc
I'm sure there are such men. What have you done to deserve it though. You entitled types sicken me.
Feminism has been great for women hasn't it? Welcome to the wonderful world of equality.
I'm not a feminist by the way.
Not saying you are, but the modern movement has created these problems for you. Women want equal rights, until it's time to pony up some money for dinner, open a door, carry a heavy object and so on. Women can't decide to be strong and independent one minute, then expect to be treated like a delicate flower princess the next. Can't have it both ways.
I would say the same applies to guys. Guys want to follow traditional gender roles only when it's convenient for them. They like to make more money than women do and be "the boss" in the relationship, but when it's time to pay for dates and spend money on a woman, she should be "Ms. Independent". That's the hypocrisy of it.
Guys didn't create the role of "Ms. Independent", that was a female invention. Men weren't the ones protesting gender roles. My point is that being treated like equals comes at a cost. Being a man comes with it's own set of responsibilities, and "equality" just trades one problem for another.
Lots of men on here protest gender roles.
I treat my wife like that but she treats me like crap. Shame I'm ugly and can't get a better girl oh well beggar can't be choosers
Yeah it happens, but not all men have the funds to do it all the time. If he thinks of you sometimes that should be enough too. Times are tough lately
Yea I’m one of them treat women better than I treat myself
It's a two-way street. Don't have breadwinner and go to your guy friends asking for more (reason of my most recent breakup).
And yes. Chivalry isn't dead. I exist.
No. The two can't exist together. If you spoil someone, you are treating them uncaringly, and vice versa.
That's bullshit.
No your thinking of your father.
Yes there are but we're out numbered and girls generally go for the "players".
they're there just gotta find em :)
Uhhh yeah I do all the time
Do you believe that spoiling behavior has to be reciprocated with money?
No it helps though
What are you trying to say anyway?
Yup. That's me.
Is there anything wrong with a woman wanting that?
No. Actually I always found that women are attracted to protective men, apart from the physical/body traits. A protective man has to be in some ways dominant and have power. Money is a way to measure power, although it is just half of the equation.
Having a man who "spoils" you, whenever he does not do that as the sole thing to retain your attraction to him, is ok. Otherwise, him having as his only seduction weapon his purchase power, is a big mistake.
But often a man who is generous (in a material sense) is often generous in other areas too, as far as he is not a spoiled prat himself as well.
You sound entitled.. so umm a good guy should avoid you like the black death.
I'm not entitled. I've always gone above and beyond for all of my exes, even friends and they always treated me like shit in return.
Ah well then it sounds like you're asking for the same in return, you want to be treated like you treat others. I retract my statement. Good people are hard to find though.
Yeah but more often than not you will not give us a chance
Sugar guys? Yeah they exist. Are you willing to fulfill all of his sexual fantasies? BDSM? Face fucking? Humiliation? Anal shots? Gang-bangs with his buds? Scat?
I'm not looking for a sugar daddy. Read my summary.
Then you must be confused.
Maybe you're asking about cucks but they're usually no "go getters".
You're the one who's definitely confused. A sugar daddy relationship is a strictly sexual transaction. Love and emotions are not involved.
I hope you're just being a troll.
Ahh yes, "love". Well when it comes to love there must be reciprocity my dear. No one sided bs.
Love does not have to be reciprocated with money dear. Everyone wants to be pampered in different ways.
Who siad it had to be with money? Love has to be recipricated in some form though.
Do you believe that a woman should reciprocate this spoiling behavior with money?
Spoiling someone rotten is only your definition of love. This type of love will attract SugarD..
Real love isn't even about the money. You are shallow.
You really need to look up the term sugar daddy because I'm not sure you even know what it means.
Spoiling someone rotten should be a given. Something you do for someone because you truly love that person and have the ability to do so. My friends who are in love have husbands who spoil them rotten to the core and because they have the resources to do it. If you have plenty of money and don't believe in spoiling someone, you're not just shallow, but greedy and cheap.
Every last couple who have truly loved one another through out history would not possibly be able to fit that description. This is a 'new age' definitoon of false love that you speak of. But if what you say is true 'reciprocate'. That's what two people do when they both love each other. Everything you just listed do it as well if that's truly the case.
Sorry - definition
I'm a traditional person and I don't believe in spending money on a guy, but I would be more than happy to show love in other ways.
Then you definition of love should be traditional as well. If not - $ugarD is who you will attract.
It is. Except that traditional love does consist of the guy courting the woman and showering her with gifts.
Any guy with money can fill the position that you speak of and not love you at all. It might last 2 weeks. It might last 2 years. But when he's done leading you around by the snout - he's out.. Which is happening quite often nowadays. And no one cares. Because they all knew that she was a gold digger.
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