Some people would argue that it is sexist. You're discriminating who can be your partner based on their gender, are you not?
Then the question is, do you think it is? I'm not sure if you want to speak philosophically or ethically regarding this but if you are just looking for an opinion then no I do not think so. The usage of discrimination does not implicate anyone else except that specific person. Is anyone else if it did come to that, affected in anyway? Then would it also mean if you are a "straight male" that you are sexist with the lgbtq? I'm trying to understand your thought process in asking the question.
I'm basing it purely of definitions from the dictionary. For that reason I keep my mind open and see what happens.
Its hard to give an answer when the basis is a definition given in black and white without leeway. It boils down to preference in my opinion but if you were to use that definition from the dictionary then yes it is racist because a belief was made that attraction is parallel to how superior/inferior one race is to another.
It's weird to think the implications if we apply this to other things. If it isn't black and white and down to preference. For instance can an employer say that they just work better with Indian people?
They can and may possibly be true. This and that are completely different. The original question was attraction by race which is subjective between people. An employer in a business should not look at that as a main distinction to hire a person or not since many other factors fall in play. Let's say a fortune 500 company suddenly decided that they will take only middle easterns just because of their race without looking at their capabilities. I don't think that company will stay a fortune 500 for very long.
Okay maybe not on a relationship level, what about on a friendship level. Is it racist to not want Asian or black friends?
Is there a certain reason why specifically Asians and black people shouldn't be within someone's group of friends? To exclude a certain demographic purely based on their ethnicity would constitute racism. Wouldn't it? To also say that some black people or some Asian people do this and that, therefore I don't like their race as a whole constitutes racism as well.
I'm in full agreement with what you said. So am I correct in asserting that you believe that current equality laws are in the right place?
Do you mean the ones afforded by the constitution? I see no hindrance in them. The caveat to that is that really is no such thing as equality, at least in my own opinion.
I mean within all legislation in all of the world. I'm British but I live in Finland, two very equal societies as is yours.Ultimately I agree with what your statement it is true, but I don't think inequality can be broken down by skin colour/gender etc. There's also a difference in equality of outcome and equality of opportunity/rights
That is completely true. Global equality is non existant but hey we have the United nations and they are still trying for cooperation between other countries. It's much more complex though to just talk about it, if I were to give an example, some middle eastern countries still consider men the more dominant and capable of the two sexes. And usually the females must be submissive to their counterparts. But it's bathed a lot in it's traditions which people outside their race cannot possibly change.
Therefore - equality disparity is on an individual basis and it is our own responsibility to fight for ourselves.
Mmm I agree with that. You can force a consensus on people only if they can see benefit in the cause.
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Do you think there should be diversity dating laws?
What do you mean by diversity dating laws? As in forcing people to date more diversely?
Well not forcing them to date more diversely but not allowing race to be a means of rejection. For instance, if you rejected someone because they're a certain race (like an employer).
Employment of course, but in terms of people's dating and sexual lives, the government would be best to steer clear of that almost entirely. It would be a huge overstep of their power in my opinion.
The governement does step into our relationships. Tax breaks for marriages for instance. I'm not sure if legislating these things are too far from that.
There are laws surrounding marriage of course, but it's a big step from telling people how they can reject someone (Covered under the 1st Amendment in the U. S Construction). Besides, if a law was pasded, people could just manuever around it and lie about why they aren't interested.
I'm in agreement with everything you've said so far and I think this is where I was trying to get with this discussion. My last question: Isn't that still possible in current equality laws? (lying to work around it)
Pretty much, there are still plenty of technicalities in laws especially when trying to monitor and regulate things like speech. At least one person will find a way around it if they can. If not, then you know it's solid.
Thank you! You've made some very smart comments.
Thank you for giving me an entertaining conversation on a sick day! Don't feel as miserable now lol.
Oh so you're sick. Get well soon - you sicko!
Thank you! haha
What other types of good racism are there out there?
Good question, for all I know there could be a lot. Seems like what we call racism is often natural preference for our own people and a survival mechanism. It's time we reexamined the whole concept.
Do you have any examples you can think of, on the top of your head?
Preference for ones own group is all that comes to mind, it's the racism practiced by the NAACP or Anti Defamation League. I see no problem with it and it seems beneficial.
I think you've made some smart points.
What discriminating if someone can be your partner based on their race?
Okay that's just semantics. I will edit so you can answer.
Isn't it more stupid to accept the status quo without knowing why? We'd all be living in caves still if no one asked questions.
You'd better think then ask
I don't see how you've formed your opinion. Oh well!
Do you believe people should be forced to date people of other races? Odd question but what I'm getting at is what is the solution?
Its not racist because racism is just a social construct which has little impact on who you are attracted to
The dictionary disagrees with you. It states that it is discrimination on the basis of race. Would you be open to dating an Asian or middle eastern person?
I am Middle Eastern and only date Caucasians
I'd say that would make very bad at being racist. Thanks!