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Yeah the guy does need to be nice, but I don't want a "Knight in shining armor" or something like that. Basically being treated like a princess. Being alpha male can be very attractive to about 99.9% of women. Basically if we're not interested in a nice guy either they're not our type or he is a beta male (a pussy).
What is an "alpha" to you?
Nice guys (if they are actually true to their title instead of fake ones that think they deserve everything etc.) don't make the first move which can go hand and hand with social awkwardness. They need to give clear signals though in order for a girl to understand whether they are interested or not. Or else they usually end up nowhere. It is just as nerve wracking for a girl as it is a guy if trying to ask. Neither asks neither will get anywhere. The least you guys can do is drop hints. Hopefully ones we can actually pick up.
You aren't actually nice you just pretend to be too try and get women to sleep with you. I've met genuinely nice men and "nice guys" only one if those was pleasant to be around
In this question I'm referring to nice guys not "nice guys".
I don't think they should struggle.
because theyre not assertive enough
Assertive enough to do what?
Same reason so many nice girls struggle with guys.
Nice girls dont struggle anywhere close to nice guys do.
We struggle the same, if not more.
You probably struggle to find someone you're genuinely interested in but you still have options. Nice guys can't even attract anybody unless he's extremely good looking.
Actually, I don't. Guys in general don't even notice me or aren't interested in me. I'm pretty open to anything, but it's hard finding someone who reciprocates feelings. Nice girls usually finish last unless they are drop dead gorgeous.
That's exactly how I feel. I feel. invisible to girls. None of them reciprocate any feelings back. Most are even taken. Just like you I'm open to a large variety of things but of course so far nothing.
The lowly sting of rejection. I feel ya. What do guys usually look for in girls. I've been told I'm well mannered, honest and down-to-earth, but what am I missing?
First things start out with physical attraction. Guys who aren't afraid to approach will do it if they're attracted to you. Now guys who want a real relationship and just a hook up are looking for a nice yet fun and stable girl who they can get along with and share similar hobbies and common interests with. Guys typically like girls who are open with them and talk to them about things.
Being approachable works too. Guys can be intimidated by girls who have rbf.
Easier said than done. I'm not intimidating (at least I don't think I am ( and I don't look like a Victoria Secret Model. I look "plain".
A lot of guys like plain girls even if they have great personalities. Trust me on that one. I liked plenty of plain girls because of their personalities and I found them attractive too.
maybe they aren't as confident as they need to be
They are friendzoned
Ok... so do you friendzone them because they're nice?
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