The standard is little bit the same both ways. Most of the time it's something insecure individuals put on themselves and try to put on others sometimes. The less you care what others think and if you doesn't have the right body for someone you two are a mismatch from the start.
You have this thing that has to do with unhealthy in the long run that also are many times lazy attitude behind that makes someone unattractive by default for many subconsciously, but those standards you hear and see aren't really something healthy in the long run and has extreme lifestyles behind (for starter to much protein intake or to little carbs, both have high risk for blood sugar and insulin problems with to long on it).
Do you know what, It's much more attractive if a person has enough with confidence and are secure enough with self esteem at any hight that has that extra from the inside with small but and flat chested than someone that have all those exterior standards.
Personal I'm not that funded in big wide hips with big behind, but that doesn't make a difference since the inside must be right with the right touch and emotion energy between, yeah, the sexuality must also match.
Well, advertisements play a huge part in our everyday life. If you think about it. Models are always advertised as the perfect girl. Without our population realizing that our brains are being manipulated. On how a perfect girl is suppose to look. Women then compare themselves to those models in advertisements and sometimes to other women. Guys also get their minds tricked into believing in the perfect girl from the advertisements. Without realizing that many times photoshop is being used. This is why it is belived in our society that girls are supposed to be a specific way. When in reality, we are all humans who come in different shapes and sizes that makes us unique from one another. The beauty that helps us identify as ourselves for who and how we are physically and mentally. Not the same as each other but different in our own ways. Also, its not true that men can always look however they want. Girls also have their mind manipulated by advertisements. To many women out there. A guy has to be tall, or white skin, brown hair, blue eyes, has to have a six pack, etc. This situation can go vice versa.
The fuck is this anti-male-hate-speach bullshit Males have way more fucking standards than girls think If a guy looks a certain way in the face he is usually branded a creep by other men and girls Fuck off with your "Oh girls have to do this" bullshit
99% OF THE FUCKING PROBLEM WITH OUR STANDARDS ARE ALL CAUSED BY OURSELVES MEN USED TO BE FUCKING ATTRACTED TO OUR GOD DAMN ANKLES AND WRISTS, WOMAN ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO BE THE COMPETITION BY LOOKING MORE ATTRACTIVE SO ALL OF THIS BIG TITTY SEXY BODY SHIT IS OUR PROBLEM CAUSED BY US SO FUCKIN ACCEPT IT
I have a flat ass and minimal boobs and had no problem finding men. My boyfriend loves my body. You are completely over exaggerating. Plenty of people have unrealistic expectations but there are also plenty of people who have reasonable ones and everyone is different. Not all men find big boobs attractive or a big ass. Everyone likes their own things.
I know you don't have a problem finding men! That's because while your Cosmo magazine is telling you that you need big tits and thick ass too find men, it's the actual man that's telling you you need or don't need big tits or muffins (I like most guys prefer tight, delicious muffins but some dudes do like the water balloons), or a huge or tight, petite ass. You learned from the source (men) what we really prefer when it comes to the physical attributes! Only the naive will turn to Cosmo, and end up mind-fucked in the end.
I think there are standards for men too. you're being a little hyporitical. Dont men have to have muscular lean bodies, strong masculine featureS THAT JAWLINE THO , taller than u even with heels, deep voiced and bonus if theyre good at sports? Not to mention a small dick would be the saddest of all when they have the least control over it? Men have it hard too. We all do.
Here’s my viewpoint. Women are pressured from society to maintain a proper physical physique, however I don’t think men have the smoothest sail. For example, while this standard is applicable to a multitude of scenarios, men have a high standard to reach when it comes to dating. With society media presenting men with these toned and masculine figures, they may expect the women to have an expectation met in order to be datable. Men are typically expected to pursue the women, while women can select from potential suitors. So yes, it’s unfair that women are expected to meet a certain physical standard all around, however, men have it difficult in other scenarios. No one gets away scotch free.
Why do women have such high financial, social, and educational standards for men?
To be an attractive guy you have to be: Rich (at least well-off), caring, funny, attractive, sexy, do well in bed, care about his girlfriend like she's a UFO sighting, care about sex, not care about sex, have lots of friends but not hang out with them more than her, not be too demanding yet listen to her 'opinion,' be understanding and listen, know how to do things around the house, pay for the meal (because apparently paying for your expenses is 'manly').
I'd take looking after my health, exercising, and makeup to get laid and find a good life over this bullshit anyday.
The standard is high for both genders. You only feel the pressure of female standards because you're a girl, but if you were a guy I bet you wouldn't be saying the same. Guys have it, I'm not going to say equally as hard, but they also have it hard. Surely like girls they don't all look like models, but they also feel the pressure to do so. They feel the pressure to get fit, to get buff, to be tall, to be smooth or a sweet talker, to have a good sense of style, etcetera. They feel most of the pressures that we do as well. Really we're more a like than people might think of social standards.
You only mentioned the physical pressures. Its a lot deeper than that with men. I'm not even considering dating until I'm out of college, and that's because I don't have anything to offer in a relationship other than looks. I know the physical is what the topic is about but the two go together in a mans situation.
I get this crap from women too, it's not just men. Women want a man with a six pack, thin build, and tall. I'm 5'7", large build, muscular but not shredded, and spend my time worrying about my goals instead of women. Oh and don't get me started on how you have to act to be considered attractive. I'd rather spend my time with my friends and family then have to pretend to be someone I'm not just to get laid when I could be working towards my degree or training. I think men just don't really care as much about being attractive because at the end of the day we can take it or leave a lot easier.
Okay sorry, I misread the thing for a second and thought "huh, that's true. But that also makes sense because it's supposed to be like that." The I realised I had switched "men" and "women" lol. Took me a second to realize what you meant because I thought you were talking about physical strength. Then I read the whole question and it made sense.
I... Don't see it. Have you seen the girls some guys find attractive? Almost any girl can get a guy, as long as she's got a hole between her legs. Lots of guys honestly have very low standards. I don't see what you mean at all, sorry...
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on the height thing. That is very much something men have to put up with a lot more often, mainly because what women find attractive height-wise is less common than what women find attractive height-wise. The physical standard for men is also extremely high, and to say it's one-sided is simply a misunderstanding.
Personally I don't really care about a girl's body when it comes to her "assets". I prefer slender girls, but as long as they have a healthy body I'm not really concerned. I only really pay attention to her face
Interesting. I was under the impression women only want tall, muscular/toned men with little to no excess body fat and who can tan well but don't immediately come off as belonging to any one minority. Silly me, I must have believed more in multi-media standards rather than feeling confident in how I look and feel.
I mean don't get me wrong, I would love to be more fit than I am, that being said, I am already a lot healthier than a good portion of people I see. The difference is how genetics make your muscle look on your body and where your body stores fat.
I don't feel like it's true at all that men can look however they want. For example, go on any given dating site and you'll find a plethora of women who won't even consider a man unless he's taller than her. Check out websites that post conversations from apps like tinder and you'll notice that sexist jokes and overly sexual opening lines often get a pass when coming from attractive men, while the same kinds of lines being used by average and below men get shut down hard. In fact, there have been studies that have even shown such extreams as the top 80% of women on the physical attractiveness scale only really go for the top 20% of men. While there are certainly more vocal male assholes than female, when it comes down to actual dating and sex, I find that men are actually much less picky about appearance.
Actually, there are people of both genders with high standards towards the opposite gender. There are just more women than men who are complaining about that.
I know. Now remember that I knew you wouldn’t reply to this comment but I like taller women only. I had a spoiled childhood and never had a mother figure in my life, I’ve got bullied by women in all my childhood and there was one girl who used to save me from bullies and used to feed me my lunch cuz my mother made me completely incapable but then I shifted to some other school because of my dysfunctional family and I’m 18 years old now and I feel absolutely no attraction to short women but the times have changed and I’ve seen that girls of my age who used to like my cute behaviour a couple of years ago, they longer like that anymore because of social media’s influence over society and Film industries which shape their preferences. I beat up 4 guys cuz they wanted to take away my wallet and those same girls started hitting on me like they used to in my childhood, how absurd is that? It’s weird to see how trends change so quickly.
I usually get no replies whenever I talk about it but I don’t expect one either. I’ve always looked for something more than just sex and I’ve never found it. That’s okay.
@SaintRaghu Umm... sorry but telling the story of your life here without any context was a bit random o_o xD By the way, if you want other people to sympasize with you, not tell them that you aren't expecting an answer anyway. I guess you'd get better replies if you would share this with people who actually know you and care about you instead of telling it to some random people on here. But heyy... tall women need love aswell :P
I’m not trying to sympathise, I get emotional support from nobody cuz I have no parents and don’t make friends anymore and I face name calling and sexual harassment but I’m embarrassed to take psychiatric help to get over my depression and anxiety. You don’t know me, it isn’t that I only share stuff with random people, the place where I live nowadays is just too toxic that I can’t make friends, I’ve been recorded by a woman and I asked her to delete the video.. I don’t care about my imaginary manhood, I get hurt and when I don’t get anyone to talk to I come on internet, not begging for sympathy either but I’m hurt.
Well, first off the post you read was by a lonely troll hoping to elicit a response from anyone. Beyond that, woman have forever been sexualized while men have been monetized. There are far too many to blame for these beliefs but it largely rests with the media.
" woman have forever been sexualized while men have been monetized" ... Wise words , and well put. Deliberate toxic " media " BS !! Toxic social engineering at work , serving selfish agendas.
only players want what you describe here, and women put a lot of these expectations on their perceived (usually wrong) notions that all men are the same or whatever. as soon as kids start to grow up and see the changes with their female classmates from children to young teens and into their 20's and 30's they see girls they have liked all their lives, and their breast size doesn't matter, their butts don't matter. nobody cares that much.
It's women who read these magazines and Instagram accounts with makeup and tutorials on how to please a man and all that shit that make you think that you have to be this or that way. not once have I heard a guy say that he wishes the girl had makeup on, many times I HAVE thought differently than my male friends about a girl/woman growing up in terms of finding her attractive or not.
It's not what society feeds you, its that you have to feel alright with yourself.
I understand that it can be upsetting but it's definitely not just women. Let me put some perspective on this for you. Bare in mind it's constantly accepted that men are the only visual creatures but when you look at the list below it doesn't seem that way.
-Women do not have to worry about being short, average height or even taller anywhere near what mean do. There is such a stigma nowadays of thinking all guys need to be over 6'3. -there is literally a section in porn called BBW (big beautiful women) I doubt fat guys get that kind of attention. -If you're skinny as a girl it's petite or model. As a guy it's called a turn off.
I can name more but the point is that it's not easy on other sides and I know of plenty of average girls who still talk shit about guys looks as well. Not all guys care that much like you say. We want pretty but we aren't braindead, we'd like more than some good looks.
Meanwhile 1/65 of UK population is on anabolic steroids. 65-66% of those take it purely for aesthetics, 35% take it for bodybuilding. The big "superhero" names in Hollywood? Chris Evans Chris Hemsworth Chris Pratt Henry Cavill Jason Momoa Dwayne Johnson Mark Wahlberg Ben Affleck Matt Damon Tom Hardy All of these guys, and a lot more, are almost certainly verified steroid users. So what was it you were saying about expectations?
Bonus rounds: "I don't date below 6'1"" Meanwhile the world average is 5'9".
No, you women have high standards for each other. I hear more women criticizing each other's looks than I do men. Also the beauty industry wants you to think that men have these standards when they really don't so that you buy all their programs.
Men have equal if not higher physical standards. Getting a six pack can take years along with some genetic components, but it's almost expected if you want to attain a status of "hot"
Stop projecting your idea of men's expectations on us. I've had to tell girls so many times to stop caring about being 120 lbs and stop caring about breast implants. Men DO. NOT. CARE. Just don't be obese. Everything else is unnecessary extra credit.
It's a good point about women shaming other women into feeling poorly about their bodies. I think most men want someone to love them, and body style is secondary.
I've noticed most of the high standards for women come from media and other women. Men are usually not assholes about it and won't notice if you aren't perfect by society's standards. The guy who posted that question online is just self conscious and doesn't love himself
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The standard is little bit the same both ways.
Most of the time it's something insecure individuals put on themselves and try to put on others sometimes.
The less you care what others think and if you doesn't have the right body for someone you two are a mismatch from the start.
You have this thing that has to do with unhealthy in the long run that also are many times lazy attitude behind that makes someone unattractive by default for many subconsciously, but those standards you hear and see aren't really something healthy in the long run and has extreme lifestyles behind (for starter to much protein intake or to little carbs, both have high risk for blood sugar and insulin problems with to long on it).
Do you know what, It's much more attractive if a person has enough with confidence and are secure enough with self esteem at any hight that has that extra from the inside with small but and flat chested than someone that have all those exterior standards.
Personal I'm not that funded in big wide hips with big behind, but that doesn't make a difference since the inside must be right with the right touch and emotion energy between, yeah, the sexuality must also match.
Well, advertisements play a huge part in our everyday life. If you think about it. Models are always advertised as the perfect girl. Without our population realizing that our brains are being manipulated. On how a perfect girl is suppose to look. Women then compare themselves to those models in advertisements and sometimes to other women. Guys also get their minds tricked into believing in the perfect girl from the advertisements. Without realizing that many times photoshop is being used. This is why it is belived in our society that girls are supposed to be a specific way. When in reality, we are all humans who come in different shapes and sizes that makes us unique from one another. The beauty that helps us identify as ourselves for who and how we are physically and mentally. Not the same as each other but different in our own ways. Also, its not true that men can always look however they want. Girls also have their mind manipulated by advertisements. To many women out there. A guy has to be tall, or white skin, brown hair, blue eyes, has to have a six pack, etc. This situation can go vice versa.
The fuck is this anti-male-hate-speach bullshit
Males have way more fucking standards than girls think
If a guy looks a certain way in the face he is usually branded a creep by other men and girls
Fuck off with your "Oh girls have to do this" bullshit
99% OF THE FUCKING PROBLEM WITH OUR STANDARDS ARE ALL CAUSED BY OURSELVES MEN USED TO BE FUCKING ATTRACTED TO OUR GOD DAMN ANKLES AND WRISTS, WOMAN ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO BE THE COMPETITION BY LOOKING MORE ATTRACTIVE SO ALL OF THIS BIG TITTY SEXY BODY SHIT IS OUR PROBLEM CAUSED BY US SO FUCKIN ACCEPT IT
And nowadays they get more and more naked to grab our attention.
Man I wish more good women like you would admit how evil and arrogant many women have become. I hope you are being honest. God bless you.
I have a flat ass and minimal boobs and had no problem finding men. My boyfriend loves my body. You are completely over exaggerating. Plenty of people have unrealistic expectations but there are also plenty of people who have reasonable ones and everyone is different. Not all men find big boobs attractive or a big ass. Everyone likes their own things.
I know you don't have a problem finding men! That's because while your Cosmo magazine is telling you that you need big tits and thick ass too find men, it's the actual man that's telling you you need or don't need big tits or muffins (I like most guys prefer tight, delicious muffins but some dudes do like the water balloons), or a huge or tight, petite ass. You learned from the source (men) what we really prefer when it comes to the physical attributes! Only the naive will turn to Cosmo, and end up mind-fucked in the end.
I think there are standards for men too. you're being a little hyporitical. Dont men have to have muscular lean bodies, strong masculine featureS THAT JAWLINE THO , taller than u even with heels, deep voiced and bonus if theyre good at sports? Not to mention a small dick would be the saddest of all when they have the least control over it? Men have it hard too. We all do.
Here’s my viewpoint. Women are pressured from society to maintain a proper physical physique, however I don’t think men have the smoothest sail. For example, while this standard is applicable to a multitude of scenarios, men have a high standard to reach when it comes to dating. With society media presenting men with these toned and masculine figures, they may expect the women to have an expectation met in order to be datable. Men are typically expected to pursue the women, while women can select from potential suitors. So yes, it’s unfair that women are expected to meet a certain physical standard all around, however, men have it difficult in other scenarios. No one gets away scotch free.
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Why do women have such high financial, social, and educational standards for men?
To be an attractive guy you have to be: Rich (at least well-off), caring, funny, attractive, sexy, do well in bed, care about his girlfriend like she's a UFO sighting, care about sex, not care about sex, have lots of friends but not hang out with them more than her, not be too demanding yet listen to her 'opinion,' be understanding and listen, know how to do things around the house, pay for the meal (because apparently paying for your expenses is 'manly').
I'd take looking after my health, exercising, and makeup to get laid and find a good life over this bullshit anyday.
"Care about his girlfriend like she's a UFO sighting" HA!
The standard is high for both genders. You only feel the pressure of female standards because you're a girl, but if you were a guy I bet you wouldn't be saying the same. Guys have it, I'm not going to say equally as hard, but they also have it hard. Surely like girls they don't all look like models, but they also feel the pressure to do so. They feel the pressure to get fit, to get buff, to be tall, to be smooth or a sweet talker, to have a good sense of style, etcetera. They feel most of the pressures that we do as well. Really we're more a like than people might think of social standards.
You only mentioned the physical pressures. Its a lot deeper than that with men. I'm not even considering dating until I'm out of college, and that's because I don't have anything to offer in a relationship other than looks. I know the physical is what the topic is about but the two go together in a mans situation.
I get this crap from women too, it's not just men. Women want a man with a six pack, thin build, and tall. I'm 5'7", large build, muscular but not shredded, and spend my time worrying about my goals instead of women. Oh and don't get me started on how you have to act to be considered attractive. I'd rather spend my time with my friends and family then have to pretend to be someone I'm not just to get laid when I could be working towards my degree or training. I think men just don't really care as much about being attractive because at the end of the day we can take it or leave a lot easier.
Okay sorry, I misread the thing for a second and thought "huh, that's true. But that also makes sense because it's supposed to be like that." The I realised I had switched "men" and "women" lol. Took me a second to realize what you meant because I thought you were talking about physical strength. Then I read the whole question and it made sense.
I... Don't see it. Have you seen the girls some guys find attractive? Almost any girl can get a guy, as long as she's got a hole between her legs. Lots of guys honestly have very low standards. I don't see what you mean at all, sorry...
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on the height thing. That is very much something men have to put up with a lot more often, mainly because what women find attractive height-wise is less common than what women find attractive height-wise. The physical standard for men is also extremely high, and to say it's one-sided is simply a misunderstanding.
Personally I don't really care about a girl's body when it comes to her "assets". I prefer slender girls, but as long as they have a healthy body I'm not really concerned. I only really pay attention to her face
Interesting. I was under the impression women only want tall, muscular/toned men with little to no excess body fat and who can tan well but don't immediately come off as belonging to any one minority. Silly me, I must have believed more in multi-media standards rather than feeling confident in how I look and feel.
My man... we on the same track. I like the way you speak
All the double standards... You guys have it rough too.
I mean don't get me wrong, I would love to be more fit than I am, that being said, I am already a lot healthier than a good portion of people I see. The difference is how genetics make your muscle look on your body and where your body stores fat.
I don't feel like it's true at all that men can look however they want. For example, go on any given dating site and you'll find a plethora of women who won't even consider a man unless he's taller than her. Check out websites that post conversations from apps like tinder and you'll notice that sexist jokes and overly sexual opening lines often get a pass when coming from attractive men, while the same kinds of lines being used by average and below men get shut down hard. In fact, there have been studies that have even shown such extreams as the top 80% of women on the physical attractiveness scale only really go for the top 20% of men. While there are certainly more vocal male assholes than female, when it comes down to actual dating and sex, I find that men are actually much less picky about appearance.
Actually, there are people of both genders with high standards towards the opposite gender. There are just more women than men who are complaining about that.
Men complain just as much as women, try visiting those MGTOW channels
@SaintRaghu yeah they are known to me. But its usually not about unrealistic beauty standarts on there lol
I know. Now remember that I knew you wouldn’t reply to this comment but I like taller women only.
I had a spoiled childhood and never had a mother figure in my life, I’ve got bullied by women in all my childhood and there was one girl who used to save me from bullies and used to feed me my lunch cuz my mother made me completely incapable but then I shifted to some other school because of my dysfunctional family and I’m 18 years old now and I feel absolutely no attraction to short women but the times have changed and I’ve seen that girls of my age who used to like my cute behaviour a couple of years ago, they longer like that anymore because of social media’s influence over society and Film industries which shape their preferences.
I beat up 4 guys cuz they wanted to take away my wallet and those same girls started hitting on me like they used to in my childhood, how absurd is that?
It’s weird to see how trends change so quickly.
I usually get no replies whenever I talk about it but I don’t expect one either. I’ve always looked for something more than just sex and I’ve never found it.
That’s okay.
@SaintRaghu Umm... sorry but telling the story of your life here without any context was a bit random o_o xD By the way, if you want other people to sympasize with you, not tell them that you aren't expecting an answer anyway.
I guess you'd get better replies if you would share this with people who actually know you and care about you instead of telling it to some random people on here.
But heyy... tall women need love aswell :P
I’m not trying to sympathise, I get emotional support from nobody cuz I have no parents and don’t make friends anymore and I face name calling and sexual harassment but I’m embarrassed to take psychiatric help to get over my depression and anxiety.
You don’t know me, it isn’t that I only share stuff with random people, the place where I live nowadays is just too toxic that I can’t make friends, I’ve been recorded by a woman and I asked her to delete the video..
I don’t care about my imaginary manhood, I get hurt and when I don’t get anyone to talk to I come on internet, not begging for sympathy either but I’m hurt.
Well, first off the post you read was by a lonely troll hoping to elicit a response from anyone.
Beyond that, woman have forever been sexualized while men have been monetized.
There are far too many to blame for these beliefs but it largely rests with the media.
" woman have forever been sexualized while men have been monetized" ... Wise words , and well put. Deliberate toxic " media " BS !! Toxic social engineering at work , serving selfish agendas.
only players want what you describe here, and women put a lot of these expectations on their perceived (usually wrong) notions that all men are the same or whatever. as soon as kids start to grow up and see the changes with their female classmates from children to young teens and into their 20's and 30's they see girls they have liked all their lives, and their breast size doesn't matter, their butts don't matter. nobody cares that much.
It's women who read these magazines and Instagram accounts with makeup and tutorials on how to please a man and all that shit that make you think that you have to be this or that way. not once have I heard a guy say that he wishes the girl had makeup on, many times I HAVE thought differently than my male friends about a girl/woman growing up in terms of finding her attractive or not.
It's not what society feeds you, its that you have to feel alright with yourself.
I understand that it can be upsetting but it's definitely not just women.
Let me put some perspective on this for you. Bare in mind it's constantly accepted that men are the only visual creatures but when you look at the list below it doesn't seem that way.
-Women do not have to worry about being short, average height or even taller anywhere near what mean do. There is such a stigma nowadays of thinking all guys need to be over 6'3.
-there is literally a section in porn called BBW (big beautiful women) I doubt fat guys get that kind of attention.
-If you're skinny as a girl it's petite or model. As a guy it's called a turn off.
I can name more but the point is that it's not easy on other sides and I know of plenty of average girls who still talk shit about guys looks as well. Not all guys care that much like you say. We want pretty but we aren't braindead, we'd like more than some good looks.
Meanwhile 1/65 of UK population is on anabolic steroids. 65-66% of those take it purely for aesthetics, 35% take it for bodybuilding.
The big "superhero" names in Hollywood?
Chris Evans
Chris Hemsworth
Chris Pratt
Henry Cavill
Jason Momoa
Dwayne Johnson
Mark Wahlberg
Ben Affleck
Matt Damon
Tom Hardy
All of these guys, and a lot more, are almost certainly verified steroid users.
So what was it you were saying about expectations?
Bonus rounds: "I don't date below 6'1""
Meanwhile the world average is 5'9".
No, you women have high standards for each other. I hear more women criticizing each other's looks than I do men. Also the beauty industry wants you to think that men have these standards when they really don't so that you buy all their programs.
Men have equal if not higher physical standards. Getting a six pack can take years along with some genetic components, but it's almost expected if you want to attain a status of "hot"
Stop projecting your idea of men's expectations on us. I've had to tell girls so many times to stop caring about being 120 lbs and stop caring about breast implants. Men DO. NOT. CARE. Just don't be obese. Everything else is unnecessary extra credit.
It's a good point about women shaming other women into feeling poorly about their bodies. I think most men want someone to love them, and body style is secondary.
I've noticed most of the high standards for women come from media and other women. Men are usually not assholes about it and won't notice if you aren't perfect by society's standards. The guy who posted that question online is just self conscious and doesn't love himself