How many of you agree with this take on the #MeToo movement especially on how it affects dating?


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  • I'm very split on the results of the movement because, while it has helped single out some very high-profile people for what they've done, I'm willing to bet that just as many if not more people's lives have been damaged from misconstrued/false allegations as a result of the hashtag than it has actually helped real victims. I'm one, and I would never, ever use the hashtag. It's just begging for people to come in and exploit it like a lot already do. Anyone who uses the hashtag is put alongside everyone else in the world who's ever used it, making their voices equally heard but also removing all responsibility or motivation on the accuser's part to be even remotely honest.

    I'm at least glad it has helped a lot of people though, I can't deny that it has. But I think the whole thing is very coarse and sloppy.

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  • I am a traditionalist but I eschew traditions that treat women as objects that exist for the pleasure of men. I do think that the sensitivity of the left has produced a paranoia about anything that remotely approaches sex or sexual behavior, but I think that most people - at least privately - reject such silly notions. Yes, there are Neanderthals who say "No means yes, and yes means anal!" and there are snowflakes who have more feelings than a ruptured appendix, but most people still have common sense and respect for each other. I don't think too many people are getting written consent to sex, signed and notarized, before they slip between the sheets.

    It is always a mistake to assume that you know what is happening on our society by listening to the media, because they give a very distorted presentation of reality. Young people today have as much sense as did my generation 40 years ago.

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    • I guess we will see how this ends up. I think a lot of men... not all... have given up. It's too much work to worry about whether or not a touch on the shoulder will land them with a sexual harassment charge. That also hurts women who want to be courted and want that traditional romance. It's usually always a few who ruin it for the many.

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      Interestingly my very first mytake article was exactly about the media being a psychic manipulation weapon. But i did not cover the overexageration of it.

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  • I'm not normally a fan of Bill Maher's, but I pretty much agree with what's being said here, between him and the panel he has on. The whole idea of courtship has been lost, and literally anything can be construed as sexual harassment nowadays. I would go into it but after spending a day scrolling through nonsense on my media feeds, I'm too mentally exhausted. All I'm going to say is that this movement has spiraled out of control, and I pity any man who decides to go out with a girl in this day and age, because in the society that exists now any girl with a vendetta can accuse an innocent man and expect to be belied with zero evidence to back her up. His life gets destroyed, she moves on, and there's no punishment.

    Don't get me wrong--I despise rape and rapists and think it is a crime that should be punishable by death. However, the whole concept of "rape culture" and this idea that we're somehow "taking down the patriarchy" is fucking stupid, plus the mentality that we should bypass due process and let a few innocent men suffer in order to get to a point where we're pretty much already at is literal insanity. We don't live in a society that condones rape--it's like saying we live in a society that condones murder, simply because both happen and people will try to justify both. What we LIVE IN is a screwed up world with screwed up people doing screwed up things because they can, and they will, and there's virtually nothing that can stop them. That's it. People who try to bring down innocents and circumvent our legal system and others' basic human rights to do so are despicable.

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  • I dated a guy who asked me permission to kiss me. He said he’s nervous because of all feminism going on. Love is not spontaneous anymore.
    Anyway, I grabbed him and we made out for an hour.

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      Yup I did the same thing to my current girlfriend when we started dating, I was so scared because of all the shit going on I had to ask to kiss her

  • I normally agree with Maher, but I gotta say if 25% of men (or women) are thinking asking for a drink is sexual harassment, your issue is not with "metoo" it's with lack of common sense.

    I think women who label everything as sexual assault are crazy and women who lie about it should be prosecuted.
    But at the same time sexual harassment is a thing and it's common and I think there's a generation of men out there who grew up on porn and tinder and therefore have had few relationships with women and geniunley have no idea how to date. Or have any common sense whatsoever in that regard

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    • dude, all it takes is 1 accusation and your life is ruined as a guy. its not that guys think its sexual harassment, its a fact of "this accusation is accepted in today's culture, no matter how stupid it sounds". I totally understand how stupid the argument is, but I've watched cops enough to know one accusation of domestic abuse, regardless of how beaten and bloodied the husband is and how unscathed the wife is, ends up with the guy going to jail! even if the husband is the one who called it in as a means of defense! its ridiculous and until times change its not worth risking my empire that I've built up on some soon to be, self proclaimed victim

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      @Sortofa common sense tells us that regret does not equal rape but in this day and age, what's stopping someone from trying to profit off a bad experience they had with you X years ago? Look at what happened to aziz ansari. How many years went by after a bad date tried to turn it around and accuse him of a crime he didn't commit? How many times is a kid gonna get expelled from school before he's even gone to trial to find out, "oh wait he didn't do anything wrong".

      If I have sex with a girl after:
      she has 1 drink
      she has 1 drink and i have 1 drink
      she has 1 and i have 2+ drinks
      she has 1 and i'm blackout drunk and she took advantage of me
      even if she consented after she had the drink, the court sees me as a rapist if she so chooses. like alcohol can't affect a guy right? like you as a girl should be completely infallable for all of your actions if your lips so much as touch the bottle of an alcoholic beverage while I remain the anti-christ. its a bunch of bs and it needs to be fixed

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      That's exactly how we grow up. Porn and videogames from our beginning of the teenage years all the way through our mid 20s and maybe even Beyond 😉
      Some of us may have a life size girlfriend pillow😀

  • Neutral again, I think leftist will always call rape and predation and call police you know but it might depend on situation and upbringing we aren't all that hyped about sex really.

    I for one would rather understand pepper spray does work ladies... using your keys work sometimes... but I think we have consider... using karate, or other means.

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  • nobody should care about the failed metoo movement. It was taken over by leftwing activists and radical feminists early on, and everybody knows those are calling every expression of differing opinions a hate crime, and that really only goes to show how trustworthy they are. Also, just look at how the Kavanaugh case backfired. They lost a huge amount of cred there.

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  • While I think it's very important to be open and address the issue of sexual assult I dont think a hashtag on social media is the best way to come out about it. It just seems to be downplaying the severity of it.

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  • She’s clearly pretty good at analysis of the whole situation. Quite frankly I don’t care and am against the whole concerntration on metoo due to my own beliefs, but the early stuff has a point. Where I lose it is the whole “dating has gone downhill”. Get off it. I’m someone who believes that in that early period consent is so super important, spontenaity can quite frankly take a back seat for the moment. There’s plenty of time for spontaneity once you’re in a relationship or the sack. People seriously need to calm down.

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  • total backlashing attempt

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  • Closed captioning is crap on youtube videos so I'm inferring what was said in the video based on comments.

    If a guy asks to buy me a drink, if he gives off uncomfortable vibes, I'm going to say no. From the time I was 13 there's been a "protocol"taught to me in a situation like a party or bar. Park under a streetlight, Don't go to the bathroom alone, dont leave your drink unattended, watch your drink be made, be aware of your surroundings to make sure you aren't being followed, tell someone at home where you'll be tonight and what time you plan on coming home, walk with your keys between your knuckles, pretend to be on your phone or actually call someone when walking out alone, check your backseat and surroundings before getting into your car, and the list goes on. Men are scared of dating? Welcome to the world of a woman!

    Heaven forbid you ask if its ok to kiss someone? I actually prefer it! Shows that you respect boundries.

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    • The kind of guys who commit rapes are psychopaths, and they prey on women for several obvious reasons, but men are just as much at risk of being targeted by some random psycho, including female ones.

      So you're not in some special situation because you're female, you're just responsible for your own safety, guess what, EVERYBODY is. Men should follow those safety protocols too, and if they don't, they're fucking stupid.

      You need to stop pretending that all women are victims and all men are victimizers. That's not how it works, and if you want to go through life and not worry about your own safety, you can do the same thing that a man has to do: hire a bodyguard.

      You don't get to live in some magical world where psychos don't exist, NOBODY does. You aren't trapped in a world of rape because evil men destroyed safety. There was never safety, ever, anywhere, and there never will be. Not for you, not for anybody. Gender has nothing to do with it, you just live on Earth. Sorry.

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      Lol I like to refer to myself as a "born again" virgin And that's the reason you're afraid to go out at night not women. If you think what I said constitutes any sorts of violence towards women then you need quit being a butt hurt victim your whole life.

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      @Partywithtom wow you really don't get it

  • Although I do not consider myself a traditional feminist, is as a woman I have to agree with the #metoo movement. It is a problem that women constantly face and some men tend to push aside.

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    • You should not be worried about being raped or sexually assaulted by anyone I highly agree, but some of these women lie and men should not be worried for going to prison for something they did not do.

    • Yeah, get therapy asap!

What Guys Said 49

  • I do, just because everyone is different but it can be hard to understand people so I just avoid certain actions.

    For example a women may playfully hit me, flirt, or hug me.
    But I wouldn’t be able to initiate the first contact even if I’m interested I don’t want to make them uncomfortable or upset.

    Now some women awkwardly high five me bcz I don’t want to hug them the wrong way.
    Like just shake my hand or leave me be 😂

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  • I didn't really know what this was about, but I thought it looked interesting so I clicked on it and I watched it. I think they make some really good points. I have always been a supporter of #metoo, but after watching this video I can see how some people may be taking it too far in certain ways. It's a good discussion to have.

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  • Not only do I agree with it, it's common sense. The METOO movement is out to destroy any contact between males and females and make no mistake that's exactly what it will do. They are going to end up making more laws to target men with wait and see. Everything is backwards in this country especially the laws and make no mistake those laws only target men. Feminist portray the idea they want nothing to do with men, men get it, that's why MGTOW is here and feminist can't stand that idea because guys finally took enough to walk away from gals. But that's not good enough for feminist, they have to figure out a new game plan to stop the guys. Take the sex dolls for example, Houston Texas just outlawed sex doll brothels using for reasons they said they didn't want Houston to become known as sin city. Now keep in mind those same voters city official that outlawed sex doll brothels under the guise of sin city have their photos on google in gay pride parades and if that's not sin city i don't know what is. Then there's congress out to get rid of the child dolls outlaw them, if they really wanted to stop pedophilia they'd know that's the wrong direction to go, let pedophiles have the dolls and eventually they'd get bored with the whole idea. Get the point? When it remains taboo it's prohibition just like nudity, Europe doesn't have the problems like the highest prison population in the world, that record belongs to the US and the US only that holds the highest prison population in the world, again mostly men. Sense something wrong there? The METOO movement and feminist are going to push men so far away from them the planet will have to be expanded eventually. They want to invade the male space and dominate it in every aspect and men guys males whatever are fed up with it, MGTOW is on fire and a lot of males aren't coming back to the plantation ever..

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  • If it did and somehow this caused a domino effect and the results somehow just further reduced the birth rate and overpopulation then what's wrong with that? What you think my bros? @Unit1 @decentguy I mean, then wouldn't that then actually be a good thing? I mean on a planet with limited resources. Although only time will tell, maybe it would be a factor, maybe it won't, who knows?

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  • Women , feminism and mostly LAW and social media made it so much that men are just afraid to even talk to women , because they can be charged with sexual harrasment , rape or other bullshit

    And it can DEStROY your life it really can , thats why they dont even wanna grab girls hand or kiss her

    Because of that many women and young girls suffer , because the guys are not even interrested in them
    Dudes prefair video games and porn sites instead of talking to a girl even tho its 25% , it is 1 in 4 MEN !!!
    So like come on... what the fuck did u do... and now u wonder why the relationship rate is SUPER LOW , marriage rate is not even 25% in age 18-30 , why guys cheat or talk with multiple girls

    Because they are afraid to "catch feelings" for the girl that even they may liked but the stuff that is going on is pushing him away even tho u are trying to get him closer

    I had same problem 4 years ago but now i dont have that (too long story)
    Now i found a normal girlfriend that im 4 months together now and it looks good , but subconciously im brain still has those "memories" and even tho i tried not to get attached to anybody i did fall in love with her #destiny :)

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  • First and foremost I would be much more inclined towards listening to bill maur if he wasn't a hypocrite as he clearly was not for due process when it comes to people who he politicaly opposes (i. e. Kavanaugh).
    That said some of what was stated I agree with, the matt damon thing was absurd, their is a distinction between whistling at a woman and raping her and these two are being treated as equivalent and its absurd and clearly nothing more then a power trip. The claims that this was "overdue" I disagree with, they found a hand full of people in Hollywood, who where already known for doing these things (open secrets that no one in the industry had issue with yet now are acting as if its the worse thing in the world and they are appalled by it (again, hypocrits) does not suggest this is a wide spread phenomena. I would also state that claiming that the #MeToo is of any value is absurd just because by its nature if you look at the accusations they are all unprovable or anonymous or what have you and that again, violates due process. The movement is terrible because it doesn't do what it claims to want to do (also the fact that it demands that men not mention their experiences (and in fact in many cases the women accused where protected while men who where clearly innocent where thrown under the bus) thus showing that this has nothing to do with protecting victims or punishing wrong doers). As for what its affects are on relationships, yes its completely bat shit crazy and has the base assumption that MEN (because again, none of these rules apply to women) are evil and violent rapists. When that's your base line love is out of the question, you cannot love some one like that you cannot trust some one like that. So women will not be able to love men if that is their baseline view of them and men will NEVER be able to trust women because literally everything they do can be viewed as "wrong", their is no misunderstanding, their is no good intention but maybe just socially inept or read the signs wrong, its he is evil and bad and because of this most men will stay away or be insanely cautious which ironically is the exact opposite of what women want (they want the guy to chase them, they want him to be bold and make the first move etc.). We actually are already seeing the negative ramifications of this as studies have shown women are not being promoted as much because men are terrified to be around women by themselves which cuts them out of mentors.

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    • which are incredibly important to move up in the business world, to have some one show you the ropes. Their have been studies also showing that men are LESS likely to perform CPR on women because of the fear of it being misconstrued as them trying to cop a feel or what have you. We also have seen it in things like the MGTOW movement where men are just choosing not to engage with women or at the very least are incredibly cautious while doing so. Its catastrophicly damaging and while it definitely hurts men and relationships its also hurting women.

  • I love seeing the left starting to choke on its own shyt. I want to see these metoo a$$hlles get worse and I want them to take it to if you think about a woman it is rape. The fracture in this left shyt is such entertainment. I treasure the thought of it getting a lot worse until we are completely Orwellian in every thought or move we make. The time when we have to question our every impulse is coming and eventually the whole fn thing will collapse on its own weight.

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  • Yes, it makes complete sense. As they say, you don't tackle an issue by grouping everything even remotely related to an issue together and holding everyone involved equally accountable. A slap on the ass, regardless of how inappropriate it may be, is NOT anywhere near the same as rape.
    I also agree that we can't silence people who are trying to speak up about the subject OR mark people as being guilty based solely on accusations. Both are not only childish, but are actually dangerous.

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  • I totally agree here. I'm a man who was raped by another man in an alley, was helped by a female friend, who later became his best friend, and then drugged by that friend when I refused to sleep with her. She didn't get what she wanted (sex, which would have been impossible in the state I was in,) but she did get oral. She claimed no memory of the event, so were I to have sought prosecution, the likely outcome would have been that I would go to prison for the crime of which I was actually the victim. I heavily support the Me Too movement, but the Believe Women extremists would have seen me as a necessary sacrifice. The human mind hates complex problems, and seeks out simple solutions.

    I consider myself a leftist, and MRAs would call me a feminist (though feminists would call me an MRA. Really I'm an egalitarian who treats everyone the same, rather than subjugating others due to some personal bigotry. Crazy, right?) And really, that's what the vocal far left portion of liberals is becoming. Bigoted. So is the far right for that matter, but that's not new.

    What is new, is how each is becoming a caricature of its former self, with ideological moderates slowly vanishing. We're becoming a culture of radical extremists, who won't tolerate those who are different from us. As such is the case, can we really still be considered a single society?

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  • Due process is in DIRECT conflict with the feminist narrative. When these idiots have to PROVE their claims with evidence, when women have to take AGENCY over their own actions the entirety of feminism falls apart. You can't sell women on "RWAR PANIC FEAR WHITE MAN OUT TO GET YOU VOTE DEM IN ORDER TO STOP THEM!!!" if the vast majority of women took the advice of other men (who are subjected to random acts of violence far more than women are) and 1. Armed themselves 2. Were more aware of their surroundings. 3. Didn't all of the basic shit we've been teaching for years don't accept drinks from people, don't leave your drink unattended, let people know where you are, and who you're with. Don't wear skirts. We tell you that because its a pain in the ass to get a pair of jeans off of another person, while they're kicking and screaming. Stay on in well lit areas, don't hitchhike.

    *Breaking news, following a new initiative by #EvilWhiteMen that convinces women to sack the fuck up and fight back and don't do stupid shit like go up to some 40 year old mans hotel room, ALONE, to discuss, a "modeling career," rape and sexual assaults are down 80% nationwide.

    What does feminism have to sell women after a report like that? Feminism doesn't teach women any of this shit! Feminism teaches women they are perpetual victims in every situation. "Mother of three drowns her 5 kids in the bathtub. WHERE WAS THE FATHER? She was depressed!" "Jilted ex-girlfriend murders ex-boyfriend and her new flame." "Cheaters get what they deserve!" "Wife cuts off husband's penis and throws it into the garbage disposal after years of abuse (no evidence, no police report) He deserved it!"

    Emotional ass women are freaking dangerous! And people are A. too scared to do shit or B. Meh... she's still kinda hot tho...

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  • i think think metoo movement is fucking stupid, so what the workplace now has to accommodate to women and gay people, its isolating men and women from each-other, eventually men will stop hiring women or there will be gender isloation. and yes it has affected dating along with everyone needs a safe space and etc, when you have radical feminism come into every aspect of life and tries to destroy the gender roles it takes a serious toll on society. look at marriage , its pretty much obsolete and men are opting out because our eyes are open and we know there is no benefits to it just like this metoo movement and this blue pilled liberal society where you can't say shit , and apparently everyone thinks free speech is hate speech, people better start changing quick but soon there won't be a safe space or social programs to cater to your tears. soon there will be no society becuase it will collapse, hello people society was built from bother genders coming together not having it become seperated

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  • I agree in the sense that the MeToo movement seems to go a little too far in regards to sexual harassment and sexual assault. What I mean by going too far is that certain actions or phrases that are really very harmless or hardly harming are deemed/considered VERY harming and at the same time, vice versa. There are certain people who are either overly sensitive on one side of the aisle and not sensitive enough on the other. People seem to require a manual/document that determines for ALL people on what is appropriate and what is not. The key to this is using your voice. If someone is making you uncomfortable, then tell them and keep telling them until they understand. If they won't, then get some help from someone nearby (or at the dial of your phone). At the same time, if someone is telling you (and keeps telling you) that you're making them uncomfortable and they want/tell you to stop, then STOP!!! They aren't kidding/joking. If you're not sure, then fuckin' ask. Stop being a fuckin' douche. Otherwise, you're going to regret it one way or another - whether you're arrested or humiliated as hell. Contrary to VERY UNKNOWN belief (aka your own), you are NOT God's Gift. That title belongs to Jesus Christ. There's no understanding (or very little) of appropriateness and care between people, and we need that. We are missing it and have been for a while.

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  • One of the things I've noticed is that people assume this means dating is going downhill now.

    Answer me this.

    Why would anyone have a problem with dating anyone during the me too movement in particular? Why is there this broad assumption that you could be accused of sexual assault next? What kind of mentality do you need to have to believe that you are going to be the next target of this?

    It's all about victim welding. If you make ANYONE feel like they are in danger because so many celebrities are being accused of rape and sexual assault. Women are finally coming out to speak up about their sexual assault stories, and one of the things people fail to realize is that rapes in America happen every day. Rape accusations happen? It's a God damn EVENT! Why is it so difficult to understand the prevalence of rape, or even just sexual assault in America?

    Why do we paint this picture of women wanting fame and attention, when we can't even name Cosby's accusers at the top of our head?

    Do people seriously think Kavanaugh is a victim here? He's been appointed as one of the highest authorities in the criminal justice system. Sure he gets death threats, but his accuser and her family had to move because of people found her address, and many many people threatened to gang rape and kill her.

    People wonder why women don't come out for sexual assault, why they don't speak up why they choose a "convenient" time to accuse someone of these acts. This is why. Fear. Intimidation tactics, even the creator of Ren and Stimpy is guilty of these horrible actions. He sends the women who accused him of his child rape charges death threats, and the death threats are addressed to the teenagers who were raped in the first place.

    It's fucked up how resistant we are to the possibility that the amount of reported and confirmed rapes that happen in America have not been spoken about in the media until this hashtag started trending. 10 women could survive this horrid experience, have witnesses of their stories, have DNA evidence, have bruises. But the minute someone hijacks this movement to gain attention, and gets caught for it, it all goes to shit. MeToo becomes labeled liberal propaganda, anyone involved in it is referred to as a man hater. Using that one scenario where a woman had little evidence of her claims, can dispel anyone's belief in these women's stories. And that's the danger of a single story. It ties to confirmation bias, motivated reasoning, and many more fallacies.

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  • There are many people especially in my country who just use it to get attention. If Ur sexually abused I get it if I tell cops or start a movement. I'm not against the movement in itself just a few fakers who destroy the lives of many innocent males

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  • After what Kavanaugh went through I don't think any men will even look in another woman's direction again without feeling some amount of fear

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  • @nalaa

    I get where you’re coming from but there is plenty of this stuff going on.

    False rape accusations are not all that uncommon. Remember the Duke lacrosse players? False Sexual harassment in the workplaces isn’t uncommon either.

    Enough is enough of this nonsense.

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    • Disagree.
      Uncommon is relative. False accusation are headline news because they are rare relatively speaking

      Rape and harassment in general under-reported, rarely investigated and almost never leads to a conviction.
      Getting hung up on the small percentage of false accusations is ridiculous

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      Copy. Under reported. Well let’s get those numbers up ladies! Don’t miss your chance to ruin the fat balding guy who dares to ask you out at work life. The really hot guy? No that wasn’t sexual harassment when he asked you out, only the fat balding guy.

      Let’s get those numbers up ladies!

  • I have been fortunate enough to associate with many women who WANT men to ask them out, to boldly pursue them. However, given the culture we live in today, I would not be surprised if this is the case for a lot of other men of my generation.

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  • I do not. I am more against it than they are. I really just don't care about the metoo, and I wish it never happened. It has never helped anyone that I've seen, and I don't see how it will. It's just become a stigma.

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  • Well problem is any girl has defined yet what is sexual harassment and what it doesn't.
    And ussually happens what nalaa says, just on my case,. more than 25% on feminists.

    Or what is worse, do as I say, or you are sexist POV, which makes me laugh.

    So until you have a clear idea of what sexist behaviour or sexual harassment is, my answer is not.

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  • It scares me now to try and make a move on a girl that I haven't made one on before because I don't know what counts as "unconsensual" anymore, you can't just ask "may I please make a move on you" that's a mood killer

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