Considering I've been single for nearly 2 years despite the time I've spent on dating sites/apps, singles events and going to social gatherings where i know there are single people. Id say yes nice guys finish last. But this doesn't mean be a dick either just get some tattoos and speak your mind.
Thanka for the mosy helpful :)
Nah. I think this is something super passive dudes say to make themselves feel better. It's an unhelpful attitude and it will get you nowhere.You can be nice while still being assertive. People who can find that balance are the people who have the most success in dating and life in general.
This is accurate, I think!!
Nice guys don't finish last. Kind and GOOD guys do. Huge different. Anybody can be nice. Its expected for us to be nice in our communities, its expected of us to step over people to get what you want in society. But Kindness and Goodness is a virtue. Sometimes most people sadly do not HAVE.
If it’s a virtue why those people get finished last?
@Manab Because a woman is attracted to a man's heart. And if his heart is true, she will gladly want to share her life with him. It's built in our genes even if we fight that by messing with guys that are not good for us, then we deserve everything we get, and we're the ones who don't finish last. It's not even about who's last or first. But who gets the kind of partner they need. And most people are linked with people who are not suitable partners.
Many girls and women are too regressed in their mind and immature to see that for themselves. Sadly a good amount of men don't either.
I have seen your previous comments , you do like good guys but now a days a majority of girls don’t. If you behave good , girls think of you as a brother , girls say you are a nice person be like that and single after 28-29 your value will be great , we just don’t want to date you now
@Manab Oh please! You think I have time for people like that? There is nothing wrong with being a brother, friend, etc to her. Stop trying to date those kinds of girls. If nobody is about what I am about, why am I going to waste my time? I would only desire to date a friend, and I am not wasting time with a person who is not ready. THAT is why you stay as only friends. Because you don't let your intentions be known and allow yourself to be respected. If you don't share values and the same desires, especially concerning sex, marriage, and family, why bother? I would not.
Many of them may not care and most guys today don't care for girls and women like me either, guess what? I am not going to be sad, miserable or bitter all my life. I will live my life to the fullest even if I die alone. I am content by myself. I have God with me. Don't need the stress. And would tell ANYBODY to move on from people who don't desire what you want.
I do agree with you , but you know what sometimes it’s hard to feel always lonely , unwanted being shamed by girls for being good... I know I should not think like that but at the end of the day we are all human
@Manab Hey. One is only lonely because they haven't come grips with self to love themselves more often. We're too busy cursing ourselves instead of blessing our life and future. Faith without works is dead. I learned greatly about myself and my desires being alone for 27 years. Many have yet to get started. Some wait till late when married or divorced. Not worth all of that hassle. I was taught to go after what you want in life and let nobody stop you.
I used to think this means the guy cums after his women did because it's a nice thing to make her orgasm first. So he “finishes last“ 😂
Ha ha Ha lol
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I think SHY guys get passed over quickly but it's not just necessarily nice guys. I'm not really sure how to state my response here but I think @AcidT0y said it spot on.
True, but in my opinion; There's a lot of shy guys... I'm a shy guy, but I have many female friends and friends in general. So when you say shy, do you mean like shy to the extreme where you can't even talk to anyone to even make any friends, or like shy as in you blush a lot or take longer to reply than nornal?
Yes, I'd say shy people that take longer to approach because someone else will likely act more quickly.
Nah i was quite shy when i was younger, girls just approached me and said i was hot
@Pulimuli Likewise 😂👍
Guys that are both hot and shy are the outliers then.
Nice guys have better long term potential. Woman like bad boys sometimes because bad boys are more confident since they don't care if they violate some established social or moral norm - but nice guys can also be confident. Its just like when you look at the bad girls who get married at the age of 19 or 21 and then by the time they are 25 they have already been divorced twice. The nice girls might marry later (but can also marry young too) but they are far more likely to stay married when they are 30 or 40 or 80 years old.
The issue with 30s if if you want kids that’s when women start popping out retards best thing to do it get set in your career screw radon girls in your 20s and 30s then marry a 25 your old who wants kids so they don’t come out retarded, I love retards I use to teach them math in high school but I wouldn’t want to have to raise one that would be hell I’d rather date a SAT 400 pound women then deal with that
@Stoner710 haha i love this opinion. The genetics of that woman may not be the issue its a 50:50 thing, genetics can be recessive or dominant, if you have an allele that jointly contributed to a genetic defect its your fault aswell. I know girls aged 20 with messed up kids, its the consequence of not being diverse, taking for granted how they look on the outside. Apparently looking good makes someone think you have good genes. False. It does go downhill with a woman but usually you can get tests to check amniotic fluid and ultrasound to check their characteristics.
@ChocolateBrowny this is true I have a gene from my biological mother called smith lemli opitz which can only occur if both parents have it my half sister has it. Which is why I know her bio dad isn’t mine. However birth defects are more likely to occur when women give birth later in life, of course it’s not a 100% I don't know the exact percentage. Either way that what we learned in Early human child development
@Stoner710 over 37yrs old
@ChocolateBrowny ok I remember 30 lol it’s been a few years so adopt over 37
Once guys are the needy ones who pretend to not like you until they've done enough to make you feel like you owe them. It's such a scumbag way to live. It's not just a confidence thing.
or 80 years old? lol
@Stoner710What age a woman gets pregnant does not determine how the baby will come out. I have know women in their 20s and women i their 30s that got pregnant that had healthy babies and those that had babies with mental disabilities so what is your point.
@sean1234 premenopause starts at 39 and they are more likely to get pregnant then. Although the hormone imbalances causss problems
Mysteriousdarkness the risk of having a child with down syndrome increases dramatically with the age of the mother according to the down syndrome society. Age 25: 1 in 1200 chance of pregnancy being down syndrome. Age 40: 1 in 100
There is no actual "nice" guy or "mean" guy. There is passive, aggressive or assertive (assertive is the emotionally mature one, a combo in a healthy balanced way- way more valuable than being either "nice" or "mean", it's being HONEST and standing up for yourself). If you do nice things and expect to be treated nicely in return or expect your favors to be returned- you're only letting yourself down and your frustration is in yourself, only. That's a condition you set but never told anyone, so learn to let it go or stay mad at yourself. No one owes anyone anything, no one is going to do things right... And if you're being nice to be liked, you're not being honest with yourself or anyone around you- you're also probably a coward because you probably don't know how to speak up about what you need, what you really want- because you probably fear not being liked. My mom would be considered a "nice" girl. Completely useless and fake- can't even have a relationship with her. She does things to look good, to be liked- she gets walked all over, she wants to be a cute arm accessory that doesn't have to work hard- she just expects to be treated right. Completely fucked up delusion- and it fucked her up in the head. I don't desire to have conversations with her or to even have her in my life (as i'm trying to build myself up, she just naturally takes those around her down because she is incapable of desiring to be aware or responsible of her actions). We can't have everyone in our lives like us, we shouldn't expect to keep everyone around and playing nice... It's not real and not everyone is destined to be on your path. When we fight for what we want and sacrifice what the world tells us we need... we build real strength, courage and patience... real character, for ourselves... and not others. I say prioritize taking care of meeting your wants, needs and help you to grow to become a functioning emotionally mature adult- to be in a place where you can be GENUINELY nice to others without expectations. being nice all the time is boring, so is being mean all the time- they both get old. We need honesty in this world, genuine people.
This is a good breakdown of the idea. I framed it as Nice to Asshole scale with Assertive being the midway between the two. But Passive vs Aggressive makes sense aswell. The passive nice guy is very agreeable, while the aggressive asshole is over the top resistant while the assertive person can be amicable or give some pushback when warranted.
Yes, the traditional "nice guy" who pedestalizes women and tries to cater to them will fall last every single time. He tends to do as many things for as he can, tries to compliment her without end, always agrees with her, because he's too pussy to disagree, etc, etc. But he's not being nice, because he's nice. He's being nice, because he expects that to be repaid. It's like gifting someone money, then coming back to them later and being like "Yo dude, when are you going to repay the loan I gave you?"It's the same concept as a woman who fucks a guy just because she wants him to reciprocate with a relationship. She freely gives sex, but it's not really free, it's not because she wants to fuck, it's because she thinks that by fucking him, she can obligate (manipulate) him into dedicating to her. There are "nice guys", then there are guys who will be nice, but they'll be nice on their own terms, when it feels natural to do so, and not with an ulterior motive.
Not with an ulterior motive, or because they're too pussy to say what they really think and try to walk on eggshells around her, terrified that she'll run off the first time he disagrees with her*Fearful men aren't attractive.
I feel like it's worth distinguishing between 'nice guys', and actual nice guys. A 'nice guy' is the sort who will do nice things for a girl, be their shoulder to lean on, be chivalrous and everything, and then afterwards get pissed off when it doesn't translate to sex because they feel like the girl somehow owes them for the good deeds they've done. A genuine nice guy, which I certainly hope I am and I'm sure most of us are, is someone who is decent and kind to everyone (male or female) and doesn't expect to get laid because of it, but it's certainly a factor in making their friends and potential lovers like them in the first place.On that note, the 'nice guy' usually finishes last because it's clear they aren't actually nice, but are actually just plain manipulative. They certainly don't deserve to come first in any case.On the other hand, for the genuine nice guys, it can feel like they're coming last a lot of the time. One of my closest friends is a genuine nice guy, he's arguably the most kind-hearted person I've ever met and I've been friends with him since we were little kids. As far as I'm aware he's still a virgin and has never had a girlfriend, though not for lack of trying. On the other hand, it's worth the wait because at least we nice guys know that when we do find someone, they're more likely to be in it for the long haul and because they know we'll genuinely care. I've had a few relationships and girls I've dated, that haven't lasted long, but they've all liked me for me. And if a girl is attracted to the 'bad guy' then it's not going to be for very long anyway.Essentially, a relationship built on the guy being a bad one might be fun for a while, for the wild sex and the exciting experiences, but it's not necessarily sustainable. Most girls will realise that as they mature and get older. They may go for the bad guys when they're younger, but when they want to settle down it'll be with a genuinely nice guy. And that's why the nice guys will usually win in the end.
tbh I think "nice guy" is a vastly oversimplified term that overlooks many other character traits which have more influence in the mating market.What most people think of when asked to picture a "nice guy" is usually a mix of traits, many of which have no causal link with one's "niceness".Women tend to use the term to describe men who have no boundaries, who are boring, who are passive aggressive, insecure, not comfortable with sexuality (and especially female sexuality).Men tend to use the term to promote their own (alleged) positive moral character.But "niceness" has very little to do with attraction-- in the basest sense, at least.When two people meet, they both ask their own gendered version of "the question".The man asks of this woman: "is she pretty, feminine, and up for a good time?"The woman asks of this man: "is he gonna crumble under pressure and/ or act like a wussy?"And since many women have some experience of dating a man who acted "nice" but turned out to crumble under pressure... then they confuse correlation for causation... and paint all men who happen to be nice as being "weak" or "wussies" or "not manly" etc.Then they end up with assholes with zero moral character because they think "well if all nice guys are wussies then the asshole MUST be a REAL MAN!" It's an immature, inaccurate generalisation that eads women ever further astray from the ideal they seek in a man.In my experience, some of the most successful people I've met are also the most gentle, kind, humble types. It's the frustrated and the failure-prone who act like assholes-- after all, their adrenal systems are constantly on edge, they feel like life is a harsh battle, and that everyone is taking their slice of pie away from them. Asshole behaviour is a coping mechanism for perceived failures-- or anxieties about potential future failure. "Real men" are neither assholes nor nice guys-- they are fully developed characters who stand by their convictions, and keeping the wealth/ happiness/ abundance circulating.
Disagree with a caveat.A guy can be nice, and be with any woman he chooses to be with. He is mentally mature, has some direction in his life, a bit of excitement, and doesn’t bend on his morals. He’s sociable without needing validation from the group. He’s someone who knows what he wants, and he is going to make it happen without be a complete ass to everyone.Then you have the “nice” guy who puts on an act. His life is a mess. He doesn’t know what he wants, but wants something. He’s socially inept while trying to dominate the group, or being a group clinger. This is the one who goes to a club and becomes a piece of furniture in the back corner. Then can’t figure out why he didn’t meet anyone. He has an excuse for every failure, and it’s never his fault. He fears interactions with women.These “nice” guys allow others to control their life, rather than taking control. They copy other people’s styles and personalities only to appeal to the a very small segment of women. A true nice guy has his own style, and his own personality that appeals to the largest array of women possible.True nice guys don’t finish last. The ones who finish last are the weak fake chods that have zero direction. It’s like they are missing a puzzle piece. They wonder around asking people to complete their puzzle.True nice guys don’t have missing puzzle pieces.
Nice guys don't finish last. However, whiny, passive-aggressive and bitter doormats who blame everyone else for their shortcomings and lack of confidence, do.The vast majority of people are nice. If nice guys finished last, most people would be single and only a few would be dating douchebags. Birth rates would drop. Humans would go extinct. Because at the end of the day, whether these bitter "nice guys" want to admit it or not, only a minority of women actually do put up with abusive assholes."Nice guys" lack any sort of self-reflection. They think so highly of themselves, that the only possible "bad trait" they could have is their niceness. They refuse to admit that maybe they came on too strong, maybe they were too clingy, maybe their lack of self-confidence turned the girl off, maybe they never even made their intentions clear and the girl didn't even know that they were interested. And, get this, MAYBE THEY REALLY AREN'T AS NICE AS THEY THINK THEY ARE. Most self-proclaimed nice guys I've ever come across are actually self-entitled assholes who think that the world owes them the hottest woman alive just because they held the door open once, or offered to pay on that one date they went on 7 years ago.Being nice is not a turn off. But don't confuse being nice with being a doormat. Don't confuse it with trying to please everyone around you, having no real opinion of your own, saying "yes dear" to everything. Also don't assume that you'll get something (like pussy) just for being nice. If you're nice to people solely because you expect something in return, you're not really nice. You're a manipulative asshole who's trying to play people in a way that benefits you. And this is something "nice guys" will never understand. They've had so many things handed to them on a silver platter, they've been coddled by their parents, and they think they're the shit, to the point where they narcissistically don't see a single flaw in their own character. It's gross and dumb and these dudes need a reality check.
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It's not always bad to finish last. Sometimes everybody's racing each other to be first in line for the kill chute. In fact, most of the time, when there's a line for something, you'll notice it's some kind of trap. People who have a lot of people competing for them are usually some form of trap. Typically, people's hearts lead them directly into traps. I know that goes against everything that Disney movies have always taught you, and they go, "follow your heart, follow your heart!" That's the most retarded thing you could possibly follow, your heart is stupid as shit, it's the very stupidest, most childish part of you. Cowards follow their hearts because it's easier to gamble and lose and feel sorry for yourself than it is to think, and plan, and base your decisions on concrete reality, and to rebuild after every defeat. Don't follow your heart. Your heart is a retard.
I clarify I'm going to understand nice guy as someone who is actually nice and awesome instead of the well know "nice guy".Then answering the question I don't think nice guys finish last, neither that they are all taken soon. Love happens by accident, meeting some people instead of other is pure chance, we can't choose where we are born or what people are going to be in our neighborhood, class or work. Therefore, what I'm trying to say is that some nice guys might be lucky and find someone special very soon while others nice guys might not be that lucky. I do believe personal circumstances and the chances to meet new people play a bigger role in finding love sooner or later, while beign a nice person doesn't change too much that result. A different thing I want to spotlight is beign shy, which some people relate to beign nice but it's not the same. Some nice people are shy some aren't, the same way not every shy person has to be nice (shy passive aggressive people exist). But the thing is that nice people who comes to be shy have less opportunities to meet new people, and in that case they have more chances to end last.
They do. They also catch a hell of a lot of flak, merely for being kind of naïve and innocent and believing that if they treat others right, others will treat them right in return.That flak (as displayed below in one of the comments) usually comes from people who never learned to be nice in the first place.Make no mistake: There are predatory people in this world who enjoy dominating others. And they often win. Especially when it comes to dating.
Girls go through the “bad boy” stage. Every girl does. However in the end we want someone to care for us who is a genuinely nice guy. They win in the end in my opinion
Not every girl does. I know that for a fact because I know a couple who never did. They’re both 25 and 26 now. I’m now realizing this is why they liked me.
@Robertcw There is always "one off's" dude but sorry to say.. most girls do!
@Brookie1212@coachTanthonyI know a lot of women who did not date so called bad guys.
Disagree. Actual nice guys usually don’t have trouble getting a girlfriend. The ones who made up that phrase are the ones who think that they are owed sex in exchange for treating someone with basic human decency. It is usually pretty obvious that that’s why they’re being nice, because it seems forced and they usually push for sex really early, and whine about any hesitation.
Nobody said anything about getting a girlfriend. That’s easier than getting a hookup. Most guys would prefer having a string of fun hookups week to week. That’s hard. And that’s where being nice might actually make things worse for them. The origin of the phrase stems from this thought process: “I want some fun hookups. [Tries to get some and gets rejected by all girls.] Holy shit wtf is going wrong here? I’m not a bad person? (Never occurred to them that they could be ugly or that even if not ugly women only want hookups with certain types of men). That’s how this thing unfolds. Take it from a guy.
Plenty might wonder if there’s something wrong with them. But the ones who would actually say that it’s someone else’s fault that they have trouble getting sex probably have bigger problems than their appearance.
Well, I think it’s way simpler than that. It’s just, “wow I can’t believe this is happening. I didn’t really do anything wrong...”Then boom. You’re now a nice guy who can’t get girls and thinks you are basically a decent person.
Fact is this. It’s looks based. Fact is, these guys can’t do it because girls don’t want it. They might consider dating thus person if they are actually kinda cool or just a genuinely good person, but if they aren’t getting hookups now they just won’t because they aren’t hot enough. There’s nothing wrong with them other than that.
The issue arises when said guy come online, to a place like GAG, say, and asks for advice on why he’s not succeeding. Then the girls will say they want a good guy who’s well groomed and kind and all that. Then he’ll say “well I’m those things but it still doesn’t work.” Now he sounds entitled. In reality the girls were being to spineless in not telling him that he’s ugly. Women on this site need to say it straight and cut the shit to prevent things like this from happening on and in forever into history. That’s how you stop ‘nice guys’ from developing.
If someone is getting rejected for their looks then they’re asking the wrong girls. I also find that the guys who call themselves nice guys, and who aren’t particularly attractive, only try hitting on girls who are. It’s a bit hypocritical to say that girls shouldn’t care about looks but guys are allowed to. Unattractive guys are perfectly capable of getting hookups with women if they ask the right ones. Finally, people who are nice can also be awkward. It has nothing to do with their appearance.
Here's how it is.Some guys are too nice and don't approach the women they want out of being considerate. Example, you meet someone at a business/establishment that you visit, you think you would like her, but you don't ask her out because you don't want her to feel uncomfortable at her job.The guy that actually gets her is the type that doesn't care if he makes multiple uncomfortable at their jobs and hits on them, knowing they still have to be polite to him since he is a customer. He just keeps it up, getting rejected by plenty, but he hits on so many that some do accept. Therefore he will get someone sooner than the nicer guy because he doesn't have consideration for others and doesn't care if he comes off as a jerk or not.And for the women that eventually say, "I'm done with jerks now." Well, the ones that say that no longer have any value to a good guy because she was used as a slut and probably has kids by other guys already so her relationship value is very low unless the guy is desperate.So what can a guy do that doesn't want to act pushy or like a jerk? Maybe join some activities, groups, hobbies, etc. that he enjoys and try to meet someone that way. Or if he plans to change jobs soon, then he can ask out someone he works with just before leaving. Or maybe try online.There is also the part that the actual good guys do have high standards, so it isn't always that nobody is interested, it is often that he has difficulty finding someone that lives up to his standards.
I wish people that down vote this would explain the reason, because from what I have seen this is reality.
I think it's pretty good advice actually. At 27 I was dating 3 women inside my large company. My life as a single guy was great, finally. One day a senior manager brought this new engineer grad by my office to introduce her. Now, I'm beta AF, but I closed my door, lit up a cigarette and thought "she's hot and if don't make a move, someone else will". So I hit on her the next day. This year is our 37th anniversary.
I always found this hard to answer because most guys I've ever met were nice guys for the most part. No ones perfect but I believe my man I'm with is a nice guy. Only a few men I've met in my life were abusive, controlling, and manipulative. So I guess in my experience of nice the answer would be no.
Disagree but wusses do. A lot of guys call themselves nice but in reality they just lack a back bone or balls. Also if you're always described as nice and nothing else you're not showing any personality and should work on that.
Look, I'm to testify to you the 100% truth based on personal experience and seeing others. A good man with a good heart and intentions will be liked by a lot of people and helped too. Moreover, a spineless yes man will definitely finish dead last. Boundaries are extremely important.
Not all "girls" are looking for bad guys; some women actually want nice guys.
Well seems like the nice guys disagree.
I know many women who looked for and found nice guys.
LOL well that settles it! Hopefully nice guys will see this and do a 180 and have hope again!
Disagree totally.It is an idea that is widespread here on GAG. But how representative can 10,000 people be when you compare them with 4+ billion humans aged 18+.It is an overdramatization of what a few GAGers perceive.Furthermore, you reduce the guys to preys by a few women that are only after how aggressively men treat women when courting.I would rather go anytime with someone that is kind and asks my opinion than one so-called alpha male that steps on everyone to add a woman to his body count and trophy list and then when he squeezed them dry like a lemon, just drops them like a hot potato.I have no respect for that kind of people.
Correction: I voted A rather than B and thus you need to correct the result by one unit.
Why so serious?
@sueshe LOL I will get right on that!
As in a euphamism for finishing last in a race, and are therefore "losers"? Yes, I agree. Nothing wrong with being a guy Nothing wrong with being nice. Just don't be a "nice guy". Right now that phrase often means someone is either 1) a self-proclaimed nice guy and entitled jackass, or 2) a spineless, annoyingly-passive doormat.
Nice guys finish first in having great friends, families and lovers. They have great manners and allow those they care for to finish first in areas where chivalry matters to them
I feel like most people's opinions here might be a little biased. Or they might have a chip on their shoulder... Sooo I'll take a crack at it.I agree that nice guys finish last in several senses. Opprotunity, Time, and attraction. I say opportunity because whether most people admit it or not. No one wants to get married at 19 to the sweet guy in math class. He might treat you well and grow into the type of man you wish him to be. But... You'd miss out on getting to grow and experience life and have fun if you had to tag along Steve Urkel. a lot of women from my experience think that one in particular nice guy will always be around... And in some cases they're right. Again in the same manner of time women are sought after constantly so a woman can date whatever man she feels like is the "Gool ole boy" last. He maybe genuinely nice and because of that he might be around longer or wait for me... as the story goes.Last is attraction. Nice guys aren't always assertive or at least seen that way because an overly nice person may go out of his way to be kind and gentle. Making him seen like a push over or a punk. That may not be the case... But perception is based on an outward perspective.Guys who claim they're nice and who just passive-aggressive butthurt guys. Don't count and should frankly not tarnish the reputation of guys like me.
Yes, you will learn eventually that nice guys finish last. You can't say the word nice guys any more because people will take you as a villain instead.Anyways, the reason why nice guy finish last is because you're basically a rugmat to females emotional problems and issues. You allow yourself to be this way, the female will not change her ways even if you are nice to her. She will continue to dump all her baggage on you. Being kind to her won't realize how nice you are being to her, you are basically saying that you are okay with every negative aspect the female throws at you.You will eventually see how negative she is towards you while she is so positive and loving to everyone else. Eventually when you get older, of course you find a girl, but these girls are usually used up like they went from beauty scale 10 to a zero. She knows no body else wants her and she will chase you instead because "your nice" and nice guys is suppose to go for any girl even if she will drag you to hell with her baggage. I am not saying this happens to every nice guy but is very common.
Sorry for grammar and repetition, but basically you are asking yourself that it is okay to be treated like trash. Girls out there will treat you like trash for no reason, you have to treat them like trash back to get respect. I usually just avoid the girl in general and find a girl that is also nice and not full of so much baggage.
Girls are like poison the will not treat you like trash aggressively, but passively. They won't admit to their mistakes. They will lie, make Disney fairy tales and make it seem like everything is all good. It's up to you to take the aggressive route and kick the loser to the curb or act like an a-hole to her, have sex, and then kick her to the curb.
Yes, they do. There's a difference between 'nice' and 'kind'. A strong alpha male is kind, polite, caring, helpful. Nice is what a weak-suck guy does to get in her panties. They see right through that shit.
Women like men that are nice, just not "too nice".Too nice means always avoiding conflict, never being sexual (even if the situation clearly asks for it), and never expressing their feelings and opinions about things (even if done in an easygoing manner).So women like nice guys, but not wusses.
It is true if the good guy doesn't go for the kill. Whereas fuckboys get more girls because they are very straightforward, good guys most of the times don't want to impose themselves on the girl. They care too much. That's actually a good thing, but is generally not rewarded.
No, at all. The nicest guy I know has pretty much everything going for him.I was kind of a massive bitch to him while I was going through some rough stuff, and I've regretted it everyday since. Not that he's dwelling on it, he has a hot girlfriend and his pick of anyone else. He has his own business that does well, everyone likes him... and yet he's super shy and awkward. I don't think he actually realises everything that he has got going for him.
Guys, never listen to a female’s advice. Nice guys will always finish last. Sad to say but it’s the truth.If you don’t believe that, then look at the end game. Which is divorce court. There are no humans there, they’re all sharks and they like to eat nice guys. You will never see an Alpha male, captain of the football team in divorce court. NEVER!
To a certain age nice guys do get passed over but that quickly wares off , as the age you will realise the most important thing is financial capacity , financial literacy , generally speaking a few bad boys have this skill , hopefully not by illegal means.The nice guy does really come forward as reality hits , and the plethora of opportunity follows , sound like Im sitting on the fence but I voted A with a certain demographic in mind.
It depends on the people involved. I'm biased. I've been a nice guy most of my life, and haven't had all that much trouble 'finishing' with nice girls. What matters is how the man and the woman see themselves and each other, and how well they match at the given moment. Nice seems to last longer; one can be a rabble-rousing rule breaking renegade only so long, so, as others have said, nice endures better than bad.
I believe this is relative. It depends on if we are talking about a mentally mature woman or someone who needs a little more life experience. For women that know what they want, they are not looking for a bad boy they are looking for stability. Again, I really think this is just going to depend on who you ask
that is actually part of the complaint. "mentally mature" also means older and weaker than the guy would like. Part of the complaint is these women don't offer the "nice guys" the same attention and affection that they did to the "bad boys" when they were young. I am not entirely agreeing with this but just trying to explain this one part that women talking about "better in the long term" may not understand.
Well age doesn't have anything to do with it actually. A female can be mature at a very young age and know that these men, "the nice guys" have what she is looking for that a "bad boy" just can't. Granted, most girls (and I say that purposely), are not equiped with the tools to understand this logic that I'm explaining; therefore, most of these females pass up on these men.
It is better to have a nice , loving and caring boyfriend or brother then one that can and will hit his girlfriend / wife , beat her up and cuss her out ! So if nice guys finish last then I will take the last guy for I want a nice , caring and loving guy ! Thanks
Disagree. Boring guys who use "niceness" as their main/only selling point finish last. People who are decent/nice and have other things to offer can finish anywhere.
Nice guys get the best girls, wgen all the riff raffs been chewed up and spat out, he gets to see who the good girls are that were minding their business. They can take their pick from the best, trust me
It's one of those things that only works if everyone agrees to let it. And, really, 'nice guys finish last' might as well have been trump's campaign slogan. People voted for him, so I guess it's true. I don't agree that it should be, but it's still true for now.
No. I love nice guys. I am not in the habit of dating aholes. I want someone who will be a sweetie to me and treats me with utmost respect and tenderness. I hate bad boys, and I hate guys that have no manners.
Ya they doNice guys are boring most of the times because they are so predictable. Never willing to cross the boundariesGirls need some danger to get her panties wet—> But there is one caveat: how hot the nice guy is. That will supercede his boring attitude —> but thats not to say all nice guys are boring. Of course not
I really dislike the phrase “nice guy”. It’s very incomplete and misleading there are so many dimensions to a person that make differences. It carries dual connotations that often conflict or at the very least leave much open to interpretation.
I feel like bad boys lose their intriguing quality with age so a 20 year old nice guy yes 30 year old nice guy No.What's a bad boy at 30 also? If he's even in a gang by 30 he's the manager of it.😂
@brittslitt So did that work again?
@Wowgirl30qSo if a man at age 20 behaves nicely, it is good but if that man ages 10 more years and doesn't maintain being nice and resorts to bad behavior, you respect him and like it? Makes no sense you rather date a man who has changed from nice actions to doing bad actions.
@Hurdleez-Swampede no I would tolerate things when I was younger I won't now because I know better.
They're needy and it's pathetic. I AM a nice guy, so I would know. Nice guys will finish last so long as they think that being nice and not offending/creeping out anyone will get them a relationship. They also need to quit keeping score of who owes who favors. Being nice to get something in return while not asking in the first place is a very scumbag thing to do.
Nice guys really do finish last - until the women want to settle down then the women cannot get you down the isle fast enough, by that time the 'Nice guys' have said "Sod it" and left the dating market.
People without a backbone who don't stand up to themselves even if it's at the risk of offending someone do finish last. Usually that's what the "nice guys" are about. They just try to mold themselves into whatever the other person wants instead of being themselves and risking confrontation.
Well it depends on if you mean nice guy as in some who is nice or nice guy the internet slur for a guy who's main personality trait is being nice when really there a cunt but no generally nice guys do get girls BC not being nice isn't a bad boy thing it's not being am ass hole. Am pretty sure most women of a guy just bullied them and call them names all the time they wouldn't get into a relationship with them
I am one of the nicest people that any one could meet. I hold doors for people I am nothing if not polite. If you ask me for help I will if I can. If you ask me for a ride somewhere like to town we are on the way. I won't just on a whim drive some one 100 miles away. I have always treated everyone with respect and yet I am single. I have been single most of my life. WTF to that..
If as a nice guy you are finishing last, the chances are you are with the WRONG person to begin with, because the right person never lets you finish last, but lets you finish first.
What's a nice guy? I no longer know. If it's the internet definition, then they don't even finish. In order to finish, you gotta win, and those "nice guys" never win.If it's truly a nice guy, then depends. Some girls only go for guys who are nice, while others prefer those who aren't. It just depends who the nice guy wants to pursue.
If you mean nice guy as in a guy who is a nice person, no they don't finish last.If you're talking about the so-called 'nice guys' then yeah they finish last because they aren't nice people.
Depends on the country and the laws , ethics and morals there , in non religious countries when there are lots of hook ups and having sex outside marriage or having sex with multiple people , Yes nice guys do finish last but in conservative counties when marriage is priority, then nope because women here fight over the nice guys for marriage.
Depends mostly on how mature the woman is, teenage girls dont like nice guys because they're not concerned about certain things like the family, job, etc. While older women do, that's why if you're a nice guy you should have all your great relationships in uni, it's very hard to find someone my age who is concerned about certain things
I won my inter city cross country challenge when I was younger... so hey in your face people who think nice guys don't win..(I tripped up my main competitors during the race so maybe I've misinterpreted the question) lol
I love nice guys so much I don't know about the rest of the girls but I'm pretty sure that there are girls who love them too. There's nothing worse than seeing a woman who has an asshole of a partner honestly it annoys me to my core.
You finish where ever you want to, being nice doesn't guarantee anything but it's a good start, what matters is how hard you push yourself to achieve what you want, you can't just be idle and expect everything to come to you. P. S. Don't be one of those stereotypical "nice" guys, just be kind for kindness's sake.
I disagree. Many guys who think they're nice are kind of dicks or they have an entitled kind of thinking that just because they're nice they should be noticed. It's expected for people to be nice. That's the baseline. What else does someone nice bring to the table? Nice only gets you so far.
Depends what you're trying to finish. Life? If anything it seems like angry and bitter people tend to live longer than anyone wants them to, and people who are genuinely beautiful on the inside tend to die far too young. Happiness? Greedy, selfish and bigoted people are never happy. Nice people are often happy.Relationships? Nice people have a much better chance at building healthy relationships. Assholes might physically attract someone for a short time, but all their relationships fail in the end because all they care about is themselves.It pays to be nice and only deal with people who are also nice. Life is more smiley that way😊
Yes and no. Yes because if you are too nice chances are you aren't being assertive enough and will end up in a "friendzone" or passed up. Yet you can be the "good guy" and not finish last as well. All you need to do is show that you are relationship material be confident and make sure you are open about what you want from the girl.
Shy guys are looked over a lot, but I wouldn't say 'nice' guys are. A lot of 'nice' guys I've met are not actually nice. They don't take rejection well and have a hissy fit. They think that just because they nicely asked for my number that I'm obligated to just give it to them.
Girls love guys that are genuinely nice people. "Nice guys" generally tend to have shit qualities and a lack of self respect. Women pretty much want a nice bad boy
There’s a difference between being nice and being a pushover
Unfortunately it is true in most cases. Women only act like they want to be treated like a princess. In reality they want thecbestbof both. A bad ass who will take them to the edge and not drop them. And the white knight who will catch them if they fall. Nice guys be warned. Being an assbole at the right times is paramount to your success in the world of women.
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