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Yea, but we dont really think non-goths will fall for us.Most are embarrassed to actually be with us in public, or our dark ways. Yeah the look is edgy and all, but are you okay with my friends who drink blood? The daily rituals? The shrine to the dark goddess in the living room? The staring and pointing?If so, then simply go to gothic places like specialty clubs, bars- some clubs have goth nights - covens (places were goths gather that are usually events posted on social media,) metal concerts, etc etc.Just go as you are and mingle. You may feel kinda intimidated at first, but if you're fine with the lifestyle, there will be girls interested.Now, we do like our darkness, but you dont have to be goth to be attractive. Just kinda dark on the inside. I mean, no kosher guy desires a girl covered in spikes with death in her smile - unless he's got a dark side anyway.Your girl is a reflection of you after all.The dark inside is what we like about non-goth guys, the depth. We like the light too and dont mind going to things you like, that aren't goth as well - so dont feel shy to invite a pretty goth you like out to a movie or hiking date or something.Just dont make us a fetish. Yes a lot of us make 50 shades of grey look like a kids book, but you'll be way in over your head if you can't tolerate the wicked shit we do on the daily.
I hope you're joking about the friends who drink blood part. If not, *eye roll*
@HungLikeAHorsefly Nope. Vampiric clans are actually in every major city in America, Tokyo, England, Paris, Seoul, Australia, Brasil, Argentina, Romania etc -These are actual people that bite and drink another live person's blood, or the host does bloodletting. It's not random though, as a host has to be free of disease and pure.I've been to a couple gatherings - really not for the faint of heart.Blood drinking is such an old thing.I would never do it - not my heritage lol
Yeah, I know - not my bailiwick. It's just that the vamps I've met have been so irritatingly stereotypical I find it hard to take them seriously. But, I guess it's a "not my kink" kind of thing so I'll STFU now ;)
@HungLikeAHorsefly Lol there is definitely a sub culture of goths that only like the fantasy things like the damn dracula and pointy hat witch stuff.You have to have a bloodline heritage to evoke vampirism or witch hood, which is why actual vampires die without blood, and it's done throughout the family - like their mom, grandmother, etc - drink blood too.I've not met one actual vampire, in which one or both their parents also drank blood, their grands drank blood, all the way back centuries.But blood drinking is illegal in most of the world, so the real ones aren't prancing around with fake fangs and a cape lolEspecially if you can piss off your blood host, who can then go snitch to the cops ha ha
I guess my issue is that yeah, I'm into the whole goth thing but first and foremost I'm a scientist. If you want to drink blood and call yourself a vampire, that's fine by me. I might even believe you have a need to drink blood to feel okay. But don't tell me you need to do or you'll die. That's straight up bullshit right there.
@HungLikeAHorsefly Yeah I dont believe that either lol - seems quite over exaggerated in my opinion. There tends to be a lot of this need to be so unique, or so supernatural in the lifestyle that you kinda just raise a brow and keep walking.I honestly think their blood drinking is just s form of the condition pica for non familial camps, or just a tradition from occult style families.I like more grunge guys than goth, because goth guys tend to get caught up in thinking they aren't human lol. Grunge guys just like death metal and a girl who likes to bite him during a good orgasm lol
Lol likes to bite him
@dancing_in_nebulas Yeah, I have a hard time taking most of the goth guys I've known seriously. A lot of them just need to calm the fuck down and try to make friends the old fashioned way by being an interesting person, rather than telling people they know magic (with a 'k' no less) or some shit like that. I definitely get along way better with the dudes in the scene who are basically regular guys who happen to like all the Dark Culture stuff, rather than the ones who think it makes them edgy.I agree with the pica thing.
@HungLikeAHorsefly What is dark culture?
@AJC997 In the United States, goth culture and dark culture are synonymous. In the rest of the world, and historically before say, the year 2000, being a "goth" meant you liked a very specific kind of music, like to dress a specific way, and enjoyed a specific set of activities that made up the whole of goth culture. Wearing black lace and listening to Siouxsie and the Banshees and having parties in graveyards and wearing thick white makeup and shit like that. However, there are lots of people who share the gothic outlook on life and who love the beauty in dark things like death and horror and pain and shit, but who for whatever reason don't consider themselves "goth". For instance, personally I think "traditional" goth rock is pretty boring. I wouldn't be caught dead wearing makeup and I find most art and literature goths are typically interested in to be quite banal. I don't call myself a goth and never have. Yet, I still have the mindset that most goths do.So, you have groups of people - subcultures, really - who aren't "goth" per se but still share the same worldview. All those people, including goths, are described as the Dark Culture. If you want to boil it down to labels, you could say Dark Culture includes:- Goths- Electro-Industrial/EBM/Aggrotech- Neo-Folk- Emo- Death/Black/Doom/Glam metalheads- the BDSM community- Some Zef Style- Real Vampires- Some Pagans- Some Wiccans (those who worship the dark aspects of the Goddess)- Horror punks- the extreme body modification scene- Thelemites- MedievalistsThe list goes on. To make a long story short (now that I've already told you the long story): Dark Culture is Goths who aren't Goths but who share common interests with Goths.
@HungLikeAHorsefly You seem like an expert in this. What do you mean by Wiccans who whorshop the dark aspects of the goddess? What goddess? And also are there any dark culture books you recommend? Oh and one last thing- is there a culture that’s not dark but more normal and revolves around stuff like material things appearance fashion status wealth etc? What would that be called? Thanks for answering all this?
@AJC997 Take this with the caveat that I'm not a Wiccan and I've never been one; my personal religion is a mixture of Deism and Celtic Paganism. But I have known a few Wiccans, and here's my understanding.There are about a zillion different kinds of Wiccans, who practice the religion in a lot of different ways. In general, though, they believe in two primary supernatural entities: the Horned God (the male aspect) and the Triple Goddess (the female aspect). Each one is a triune diety, which means they are comprised of three aspects combined into one being (very similar to the Christian notion of the Trinity). The Horned God is the combination of the Boy, the Father and the Sage. Each represents one of the three primary stages of a man's life. Similarly, the Triple Goddess is the combination of the Maiden, the Mother and the Crone - the three primary stages of a woman's life. Wiccans are *supposed to* worship the God and the Goddess as all three aspects at once, in relevant contexts. But, just as happens with Christians, a lot of Wiccans do tend to focus on one aspect over the others. When I say "the dark aspect of the Goddess", I mean "Wiccans who worship the Crone". Or, what I call Cailleach the Hag. She represents endings, decline, the night, darkness, winter and death. These folks could also do things like favoring the Holly King over the Oak King. Or Samhain over Beltane. Or maybe they're into Moon magic. Or maybe they worship some other gods/goddesses who are associated with the dark, like my personal favorite Badb of the Morrigan (Celtic goddess of war, confusion, bad omens, carnage and death). Stuff like that.Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any books on this. If you're looking for a culture centered around fashion, material possessions and wealth... just turn on any television and put it on any channel.
@HungLikeAHorsefly Yep that's Wiccan in a shoebox for ya@AJC997.Wicca is an umbrella of several different spiritual paths, some Egyptian, Greek, Celtic etc. Earthy wicca is what's more popular in goth culture, which is why you see lots of pentagram- the five points traditionally representing fire, water, air, earth and spirit. Witches were simply mixing herbs that had different effects on the body, mistook for "magik." Which is why a lot of wiccans are very earthy kinda people. Like hippies in all black lol.Spiritual "magik," is just messing with the boundaries of dimensions, which scientists theorize about now. Ghosts are just beings in another dimension, containing variables we dont have in our world. But just because you live in the 2nd dimension, doesn't mean there isn't a third. Likewise, there may exist a fourth.So occult wiccans or necromancers like the paranormal things.I practice Yoruba, which is African wicca consisting of gods and goddesses who function more like guides than objects of worship. Oya is more my spiritual guide, the dark goddess of death, violent storms. She is a warrior goddess and holds the secrets of the dead.Yoruba is focused around being wise about the reality around you, and sculpting your destiny as you go along. Ashe is the soul energy in everything, so it pays well to understand the existence of even the smallest bit of dirt.It's one of trillions that makeup the ground you stand on. We like grains of sand, are so small in life as one - but we make up in entire reality existing altogether.If you want to experience dark culture, you simply need to embrace the "darkness" inside of you, instead of fearing it as we are taught.Night has it's own purpose and beauty just like the day.Darkness doesn't necessarily mean evil - just another aspect to further understand the dynamics of what we are, and what this life is.Darkness is but light's shadowafterall...
@HungLikeAHorsefly Metal guys are definitely the sexiest usually. I'll take a heavily tattooed biker with blue hair over Edward Scissorhands anyday lolGoth guys are 9 times outta 10, waaaaay to feminine.
@dancing_in_nebulas I hear ya. I'm a T-shirt and jeans (maybe fatigues) with a good pair of boots kind of guy. I mean, to each their own I like to look like a man.Although sometimes when I go to shows, I wear a Utilikilt.
Oops "to each their own *but I like to look like a man". Me do English good
@HungLikeAHorsefly Lol - the kilts are really attractive in my opinion, makes guys have this kinda warrior edge. I like the trap pant-kilt hybrids with some boss lookin boots.Ya know, not only does he look kinda mean, but you know he could beat the shit out of other guys tryna mess with his girl.Nothing like a rugged gent carousing with the wicked
Yeah, they go for non-goth guys. I gotta ask, though: when you say "goth", do you really mean "goth", or just edgy girls who like black? I mean, is it the look you like, or the gothy part?If it's just edgy girls you like, then you're in luck. They aren't any different than any other girl. If it's goth girls specifically that you're into, then I'll second what @dancing_in_nebulas said. Just don't be basic and have an open mind. Wide open.
I'm surprised goth is still a thing.I feel like that mostly went away, and I feel like you're probably confusing anime style goth girls with real goth girls, most of which are, shall we say, unpleasant and not at all like your imagination.
And what do you think is in my imagination?
I don't know how to but you dont have to be goth to get one. Im a hip hop head and I've had 3
yeah probably but she will stop dressing that way when she is your girlfriend
Don't! They're too emotional. I was with one in 7th grade, they ain't worth it
Goth girls are not what you think they are, in real life.
But not a lot?
Well most goth girls I know have a specific type but I’ve seen some go for non goth guys
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