I have the perfect movie clip for you of those BUMS you speak of... so good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6xOsTR1zbY
I almost fully agree. Not sure why you keep mentioning video games lol. There awesome lol. But yes too much of anything isn't good. So where did you learn your social skills? What did you do? I have no clue how to talk to strangers and make friends fml. My social skills are not up to par.
@Paul09 It’s not the video games themselves. It’s just these guys are bums and all they do is play games. But they think they are cool.I learned social skills by forcing myself to talk to people. I was bullied my whole life and utterly friendless and alone as well. I still have bad social anxiety and recently started therapy for it. Even though I’m good at talking to people now, I still get insane amounts of anxiety.It took a looooong time to get to where I am, cuz I had to learn it all by myself. So I’ll just condense what I learned and maybe you can skip the many steps I had to take lol.I learned to “be mindful.” Which is kind of like meditating but while you walk around and talk to people.When I would talk to anyone, the anxiety was overpowering. Over time I learned from researching and whatever road my life went down, about mindfulness. So I began implementing it when I talk to people.Basically, you are beating yourself up in your head all the time. And it makes it impossible to talk to people. So you practice being mindful, you practice getting into a state of mind where you are not talking to yourself in your head.What happens is suddenly for some strange reason you’re able to talk to people. The right thing to say just comes out. You just say whatever you feel like saying. You say what you would have suppressed had you not cleared your mind.
So practice clearing your mind. Don’t let the thoughts about how you’re not cool or whatever get in the way. Learn to express what you really think, and just let the words come out. Of course it’s not easy and it takes a lot of practice.People like people who are able to be themselves. And you aren’t yourself when you’re full of anxiety and fear of judgement and fear that your social skillls are not good enough and all that.If you’re able to actually finally let yourself be free and express who you really are, people will cling on to you. Because honestly that kind of person is rare.Which is why it irritates me when “cool” dudes cling on to me. They are the worst. “Cool” dudes are just as socially retarded as I ever was, except they get girls and people like them because they act like jerks or have built up this fake persona.
Yes! Always stuck in my own head. So hard to get out of. Always try to distract my mind. But I sometimes seem to say something stupid things. Or maybe not stupid just not many people agree. Other than that I also get social anxiety, no clue what to say to random people. I mean if someone talks to me il talk bad. But for me to try and meet people.. What do i say how do I continue this convo, how to I make myself appear lie a likeable person lol. I do need to try and meditation more and hopefully that can help me with what you mean. But even with my friends I feel alone, no one understands me. Am I that unique, or my friends are mostly all the same? Lol
Hmm. Well I kinda have a view that most people only care about themselves, and that comes from my newfound social skills.Most people are like robots lol. To some degree, it may be that everyone has some kind of social anxiety, it’s just that they deal with it in different ways than you and I did.For example the “cool” guys. Man, they’re so fucking awkward and weird. But they do well compared to most people because they have this like script they have learned. And they live their lives following some kind of “coolness” protocol.For me it has felt a bit isolating at first. For example, now I can identify a socially abused person from a mile way. Just show me their fucking shadow, and I can tell they are a social outcast by looking at their damn shadow. Sounds crazy but I swear it’s the truth.So I’ve gained a sensitivity to social skills. And that has shown me how a lot of people tend to interact.A loooot of people can have conversations with eachother, and never actually talk to eachother. They talk past eachother, without acknowledging eachothers words at all. And now I see it all the time. A lot of people are just bizarre in a way you would never see if you’re lacking in social skills and you’re tied up in anxiety around other people.The reality is really they don’t give a fuck about you. They are worried about themselves, but they aren’t worried what you think. They are worried for all kinds of strange reasons unique to the individual.And I have begun to see that in people. It’s almost like I can diagnose them with some kind of problem they have just by looking at them lmao. Sounds weird I know.So i don’t think you should feel bad about yourself when people don’t listen or seem to care.In my experience just from watching people have conversations, most people are just like two robots talking to eachother. It’s rare when you get two people who are legitimately interested in eachother and listen and care what the other is saying.
So for me, a lot of my interactions are small talk. A lot of my interactions are me just trying to be friendly to people who I really don’t care to talk to.But sometimes I meet someone I really like and enjoy being around. And I want to be that persons friend. We actually talk and care about what the other is saying and engage in fun and interesting conversations.That shit is just rare lol. That’s just the fact. Your dealing with a world full of people who really aren’t a “match” for you. And that’s fine. You smile and nod and ask them how they are doing and you move along until you find people you really genuinely connect with and feel genuine feelings of affection towards them. People who when you see them you can’t help but smile and be happy to see them.
One more thing that may be helpful for you. Is to be genuine yourself even if the other person isn’t. Like when you say “how are you?” I’m casual small talk conversations with random people, you should ask “how are you?” Genuinely. Meaning you really care how that person is. You have a baseline care for other peoples well being and you really are hoping when they respond with “I’m good” that they really are good. Even if you’re not a match and a long lost friend for that person. But being genuine in that sense is a good thing to practice.
Definitely have to try some of this. Have you ever been to therapy? I may also try that. Well thanks for your insights!
I am in therapy right now. It’s been about 8-10 weeks of it.I’ve done so much on my own and come so far. My therapist says most people are completely lost and blind. But I did a ton of good progress by myself. They also said that they really believe I have great potential to really go far with it and get things straightened out lol.So that kind of confirms to me I’ve been on the right path all along. Therapy has been interesting. Remembering things and coming to new understandings of this and that about my life PTSD and this and that. I would say it’s worth it. I am doing CBT cognitive behavioral therapy. I guess part of it is you have to do homework in a sense. It takes work to help yourself and the therapist can’t even help you unless you put the work in. So if you’re already working on it, than therapy will be extra helpful. Many people struggle to even begin to help themselves let alone let someone else help them.
Omfg I'm weird like that, I like to help others, but have a hard time helping myself lol. So I'm definitely on the right path. It is good to hear. Well all the power to you and myself. I will see if I find the right therapist, who will hopefully help.
That’s true but shy guys can be players too it just takes them more nerve or motivation or whatever.
I’ve known very extroverted and direct guys who aren’t assholes and are very successful with women. But these guys have a certain boundary where they won’t throw other guys under the bus or break the law to make themselves look better. Those guys aren’t “bad boys”’. Bad boys act aggressively antagonistic out of a very deep insecurity. It’s false confidence. But most women struggle to understand that.
It’s because that aggressiveness they see in guys makes them feel sexually charged and intoxicated. They know it won’t end well but they jump head first in the pit anyway.
@likelyOK that is very true. I have dated those types but I decided to keep it simple with the general average archetype of good and bad guys. There are guys that have a "bad boy" appeal and are actually chivalrous and sweet and nerds who in secret have highly aggressive and violent tendencies, im definitely aware of those types out there.
@guesswhoseback I completely agree with you
Sounds like you have met them too
Well if women want to make piss poor dating decisions then go ahead. But when these guys screw you over (as they inevitable will) then it’s time to lay in the bed you made. The writing was on the wall and it’s your own god damn fault. I’m sick to society comforting women who indulge in self destruction.
Yes. Some guys don't understand that there are girls out there who DO give the nerds a chance (or what most would falsely perceive as the "Good" guys) only to realize they have very similiar sexual demands and desires as the typical guy and pulling you gives them a confident boost to shoot higher. You learn and move on.
@guesswhoseback I agree. People make poor decisions then project that onto others because they lack self accountability. So instead of realizing that their outcome is a result of their poor decision streak and wisening up to do better. They complain. Society enables people to rest in mediocrity instead of holding oneself and others alike accountable.
@likelyOK Yes. Some guys don't understand that there are girls out there who DO give the nerds a chance (or what most would falsely perceive as the "Good" guys) only to realize they have very similiar sexual demands and desires as the typical guy and pulling you gives them a confident boost to shoot higher. You learn and move on.
Well I’ve dated a nerdy (yet attractive) girl. I’ve had plenty of women hurt me over the years but what she did at the end was something I will never forget for the rest of my life. Not surprisingly she became a radical feminist later. I think she indulged in that conceited moment as her heinously conceited way at getting back at “all guys”. As about giving nerdy guys a chance. This is very complicated. For these guys it feels like it’s too good to be true. Or maybe they think they were hotter than they ever gave themselves credit for. It goes to their. Or they have to become assholes as a twisted method to avoid losing the girl (or worse being friendzoned). But yes there were a few times I had extremely good looking girls approach me when I was a “nerd”. I was defensive that it was some sort of cruel setup (and it often is). But that is complicated. But at the end of the day people want to be respected. Rewarding an abusive asshole by spreading your legs is the absolute dumbest thing you can do.
Id day we want to bang the nice girls too though. The sluts are just available I suppose? I mean don’t ask me, I’m not a player. And like, the majority of us aren’t. I think it’s a small percentage of men who “bang all the sluts.”Looks to me like everyone wants that top percent who do all the fucking, and then we blame the rest who don’t do it, for the actions of the few. I guess...
@Kaazsz right! It's not a gender issue... It's a personality issue...
It’s an issue for men because it’s not the same. If a woman is hideous, obese, and her breath stinks like literal shit, she still can have sex, have kids, reproduce.If a guy is just a little too shy, he becomes an incel.So while it may be a personality issue, I see it as logical that men are more angry. Because when a man is low on the totem pole, he gets nothing. No woman has to suffer that fate if she so chooses.
You should ask that question if you want to know the answer. LOL
Well no because I don't lump all behavior by gender...
I'm sure some guys do. But it's the way you're wording it. Women are the keepers of sex. I'll say it a again virtually any woman can walk into any bar at anytime and say she's open for business and she'll walk out with a guy. The same cannot be said for men. So naturally some men treat it like finding a 100 dollar bill on the ground. Very few are going to just pass it up. Cause you don't see that everyday.
Well I do lol sue me.
@coachtanthony so then should women judge you for the actions of other men 🤔
You answer my question and I will think about answering yours. That is the way it works here.
You‘ve got it backwards, Brains (for most guys).
Right! Majority of men think they are good guys even if they are not. Lol
@coachtanthony my bad I thought the way it worked here was this was a site for men and women to get advice from one another, to learn how to better understand one another, not just bash a whole gender... communication would work better than assumptions...🤷🏼♀️
I bash both genders equally! That’s what I do!
Why bash anyone tho? What's the point of that? Don't solve the issues, just makes em worse... And aren't you a dating coach? So shouldn't you be trying to get people to respect one another? Dating don't work without respect
I post questions that get people talking. Most people that know me on here know this!
Trash talking isn't talking to solve issues
Well it’s going to get worse so you may want to block me if you’re getting triggered! Just saying!
Disagreeing with someone is being "triggered"🤔I don't block people for disagreeing... Honestly did unfollow tho.. You know you were the very first person I followed on GAG because even if we don't always agree, not only did you keep it respectful, you seemed to not be like some on here bashing females... But lately that seems to have changed, and I don't agree with posts meant to bash one gender or another, anyways... But especially with so many real issues we're having these days... You can call that triggered... But people should really know what trigger means, and nothing on this site would trigger me... More lost respect
Sorry to hear that! I apologize if I came off rude or insincere!
And that right there is what made me follow you... I just personally don't understand this need for men and women to hate a whole gender or blame a whole gender... To me if someone is a bad person, it's more about that person as an individual than because of their gender... I had a first husband that was physically abusive... Would it be right for me to label all men that way? Or say to must be that way because you're a man? Most child molesters are white males. Would it be right to say all white men are child molesters? No it wouldn't... And men shouldn't keep painting all women as bad or users or cheaters.. My second husband was a good man, but if I would of been biased against all men because of what one man did to me? Well then I would of lost twenty years with a great man, to beautiful daughters and a precious grandson... Life/time is precious... The time people spend hating based off assumptions-I or bias is time they won't get back... And I just hate seeing that when I want given that choice it was taken from me...
No, we still want them. At least we are consistent
@StickStickity13 oh all men are consistent and all women aren't? Sure, okay 🤷🏼♀️
We are consistent with what we want.
@StickStickity13 again, and ALL women aren't... Everything you're saying is generalizations and false ones at that... So you know how ALL women behave? you know how ALL men behave... No, you do not...
BBB you're right this is a site is supposed to be a place where girls can ask guys questions and give honest answers. Not the other way around. It took me a while to figure out why it's girls ask guys. It's because you'll never get an honest answer out of a woman whwreas a relationship is concerned.
@ChiTown33 wow could you be any more sexist... So all women liars and all men tell the truth? And no it's for men and women to ask each other, but okay then
I never said all guys tell the truth. Ask me any question i'll tell you the truth. I can't speak for all guys. But ask a woman a question and you're almost always going to get some convoluted response. If speaking that truth makes me sexist then i guess i'm sexist. I'm just telling you my experience.
@ChiTown33 But ask a woman a question and you're almost always going to get some convoluted response... Your experience doesn't speak for ALL women though, now does it? Ask me a question and you're going to get the truth...Just like you can't speak for all men, you can't speak for ALL women based on your experiences...
Yup, I agree with Kaazsz. I never had interest in sluts. But the term "good girl" sounds as boring as "nice guy". People need to have some adventurousness and naughtiness (both in and out of the bedroom) to be fun.
I have to clarify. I agree with his first comment. I hadn't read his second one before I commented. I have some issues with his second comment.
@Lliam all those Nice got/bad boy nice girl/bad girl labeling is just one more thing that gets overused and misconstrued in my opinion... When to me it's more about if they're a decent, honest, good person...
I agree, bbb.
Brains, only the "Alpa's" get to "bang all of the sluts". There is a small percentage of Giga-Chads who have lots of sex with many, many, different women. An overwhelming percentage of guys don't get to whore their way through their teens and 20's the way women do.
@KrakenAttackin, that's true. But I'm not sure if I would characterize every girl who falls for the captain of the football teem a slut. Why isn't that similar to an average guy getting a crack at the prom queen? Why wouldn't they? Religion or some kind of moral code? It's like being offered a $1200 meal. You'd be kind of stupid not to take it. To me, a slut is someone who fucks everybody. It seems to me that alphas don't have to fuck sluts. They can fuck just about anybody. In fact, maybe it's the alphas who are the sluts.
BBB it's speaks for nearly all women i've talked to which over 45 years is a lot of women. You're right it isn't every woman. But if the rule is about 95% of women it's just EASIER to say " women" their's always going to be an exception to the rule. But i don't get why you're so deadset on defending 5% rather then condemning the 95%... could that be because you're a woman? For what it's worth i do think you're a pretty fair minded person. But you can't deny your bias and i'm not even trying to deny mine. But mine is 45 years. Earned and i'm not apologizing for it.
@ChiTown33 your point? And I'm 48... Wtf that gotta do with anything... So you've spoken to/dated 95% of the female population in the whole world 🤔 wow you do get around 😂 There's good men/bad men... There's good women/bad women...Where's my bias 🤔
@KrakenAttackin again isn't that an assumption? You're assuming women whore their way though their teens and 20's... Assumptions aren't fact though... And you said percentage that get to, forgot to mention what percentage would want to 🤔🤷🏼♀️
Ewww. Sluts and gold diggers. Especially the latter. Disgusting.They don't even want me.
@Unit1 would you really want them, tho? You deserve better than that!
I mean i am still single and i find no harm in banging sluts, so long i use protection.But not for long term anyway 😄 Gold diggers on the other hand are disgusting. 🤢
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Blah Blah Blah whats with the TM? SMH
Trademark = ™️ copyright = ©️ It's a joke about the store brand "nice guy" everyone knows about, the cringey figures.At the same time, distinguishing normal decent people. "Doing what they can, the best they can"
Ohhh okay... clever! nice
It’s GAG... vague is what you get!
I like your take on this.In layman's terms yeah I'd say they only like bad boys.But to get in depth, I'm sure it's more that "danger" and mystery lead to excitement for the majority of women. The "bad guys" tend to be more bold and confident, even when they're completly wrong and have no business being confident.It just drives me crazy that women seem to be less observant of behavior patterns.Like most guys can recognize crazy, easy, or "daddy issues" in women, they know about her issues when they talk to her, know she isn't wife material but will probably be fun for a little while.
@TonyV I think you're underestimating how quickly guys can take on the "good guy" persona (to simplify the event). They will play a friend/ a confidant/ an advisor/ and a supporter... all of this allowing you to feel comfortable before they slowly start to push their interests. It starts with respectful compliments (usually about a woman's personality and value).. and then once he has her comfortable, he will slyly start to break her down. Some of the cases I've seen or heard include short periods of ghosting, trying to pit her against other women (but not overtly, he may almost feign social awkwardness to accomplish this), a guy may conveniently "forget" certain boundaries or things of importance to make the girl seem like she's just overreacting when he tries to get away with certain things. I've seen guys flip after years of playing the part. Not all girls like bad guys, some guys are just willing to do THE MOST (deceive, manipulate, perpetuate female competition, play like they have multiple personalities, etc) in the hopes of getting laid
I know some guys just plain lie, but I had a friend who told me all excited sounding that guy she liked use to be a gang member like it was a good thing.Or didn't mind having to drive to a guy everytime cause he didn't have a license,Another guy was a drug dealer, and one guy was married! like why these guys? How hard is it to find a guy who didn't use to make a living breaking the law and at least has his shit together enough to drive himself like an adult?Maybe my old friend was just not a good person, and I am not saying every woman would do the things she did, but I'd be lying if I said it dosent seem like most women are interested in bad choices and bored by decent guys.
But not to 8gnote your point, yes some bad guys know exactly how to manipulate to get what they want without a second thought or care about what the woman wants. Wolf's in sheeps clothing
@TonyV I hear your point about your old friend and I have seen examples of this too. I find this to usually be a common theme with women with some sort of trauma or emotional scarring (in some cases, women who were overly sheltered). These are people with masochistic tendencies, a skewed self-esteem, and/or a scarcity mindset. I also know a truck ton of women who would be gone like the wind at the first sign of drama, laziness, codependency, anger issues, criminal/amoral behavior, etc. This is why I felt the need to point out out deceptive responses to generalities and leading questions could be.
Fair enough, yeah generalizing is never good, I try to ignore my own feelings and not let my own anecdotal evidence rule my thought process. I know what I've seen but I also know all women aren't the same, some get tricked, some can see it a mile away and steer clear, but there are some that are just gluten for punishment.Hell I'm not all that different, i give maybe to much value to looks and also think some girls are boring. I dont think I'm shallow but i do want a pretty girlfriend and maybe i shouldn't right off "boring" so quickly.I haven't experienced, well anything and I want to experience a lot before I get married, so who knows maybe in search for excitement I've already passed up a great girl.
@TonyV Dating and relationships are tricky business. The nuclear family has been evolving for generations now giving a lot of us different models to build our standards upon, online dating is its own universe, people don't need social skills anymore apparently lol. Not to mention the fact that we grow up cultivating friendships, not healthy, happy monogamous relationships (at least this is what I want). Love really has become some kind of battlefield. People want their emotional and sexual needs met but they have trouble meeting their partners half way. it's a lot of trial and error. Pretty is good and well but it won't last and it guarantees nothing else.. also, I've been known to use "boring" as a defense mechanism so the girls you meet may or may not be playing that card. It may also be a lack of compatibility that makes them seem boring to you. That's not necessarily a bad thing, you may just need to keep looking. Or maybe you can try to hear them out.
Wow. That's the first I've seen a gal flat out saying guys are decent on the psychological side and honestly, I agree. Too many people though are too pushy for the false statement about men being more brawn than brains. It's just not true at least these days. It's not a compliment to deceiving guys either, it's a warning to people to know the ability of bad people. Even to do terrible things takes intellect and having no suspicion of it only makes that intellect more useful.by the way, I've been the one before to take exactly the kind of "adviser" position you speak of. But I managed it as delicately as I could and tried to make it clear, subtly, I was a friend that is very neutral on any kind of "feeling" so she could get the best and clearest help from me possible without additional fear of me being the guy you mention.
@errorgoodnameunfound Preach! Naivety can and will get us played. It happens everyday. While you may see the "Bro-man" side of guys who are your friends or family.. they can be very creative in getting their way behind the scenes. Humans have not come this far with men at the helm of society (for the majority of civilization) without them developing a cunning and effective skillset.
@errorgoodnameunfound It's good that you approached that level of trust objectively without pretense. As vulnerable as girls get with people, its very easy for people to take that and run with it. I wish that wasn't the way of the world.
Yup. I hope other gals besides you start to see it. I feel way too many gals let their guard down for the wrong guys. Few things shakes me like an abused girl not knowing about a hotline available for it or what narcissism/gaslighting is.
@TonyV @estoydorado1 You two should get a room.
@errorgoodnameunfound Its hard to recognize, and then once you recognize it, it can blow our minds lol. Like, "wait, I've been living a lie?" "so I'm not crazy.. I'm stupid"... "Oh, crap I can't admit that to anyone.. I can barely admit it to myself".. "Annnd he's used his role as a trusted advisor to sabotage my healthier bonds.. I have no one else to turn too". And that's just one of many ways that naive women or wounded women can get looped back in.
I had that in back of my mind the whole time. I even let it slip a bit that I thought she was being naiive. But honestly, even if she ever didn't talk to me again, idc. Some people need to be shaken by that kind of bluntness to make better decisions. She's not the first girl either I suspect got borderline or literally raped without realizing.
@errorgoodnameunfound I can assure you she isn't the first or the last. Those kind violations can be impossible for the mind to grasp. Maybe she'll be able to recognize the problems in hindsight.
Sorry, i was referring to a situation with a friend I had. But anyway, on your last statement, maybe now that women went through a sort of revolution, guys are next. Guys let sex be something of extremely high value so only we can encourage each other to bring it down and not let it be such a big deal anymore. It'd crash a lot of sexist industries and stuff so it'd be great. Guys too need to stop being shamed for anything perceived as remotely gay. That's a HUGE part of the psych of why guys are so desperate for girls.
@errorgoodnameunfound So it's more than just lust? Its about status too?
I see what you mean but, I think it’s just to show 2 different types of guys (not ignoring other qualities on them though) and how women react to them
Def be careful with those guys and once you see signs like that just move on ya know and sadly the same goes for women
Hey can you add me/message me please. really want to ask you a question on this you seem very knowledgeable on this subject. Trying to unstuck myself out of an ex boyfriend trauma
I don't know I’ve seen girls become attractive to a guy after he bullied her; seem like he’s bad to me.
@chris_987 That’s not even close to the majority. I’m talking about the generalized belief that “girls like bad guys”.
@chris_987 There are a lot of guys who also crush on girls who bully them 😂
It canbe the majority if you live in the ghetto and you see all the girls dating drug dealers or if you look at the prison population and see death row inmates with women that are in love with them. Or 50 shades of gray or the rape fantasy that women have. Men are the ones that say women date bad boys because we see it. As women you’re not observant towards this stuff so it would go unnoticed to you and it wouldn’t effect you life in anyway to notice a girls is date a guy that’s in a gang. So this obviously something you wouldn’t know about
@chris_987 Well most people don’t live in the ghetto lol. And I’ve never dated a bad guy, I’ve had the fortune to date amazing admirable guys, so yes I am an observer of other people’s dating choices, including women. I’ve never read or watched 50 shades of gray but I know it’s popular amongst women. Rape fantasies are just that — fantasies. Women don’t want this to happen to them in real life because rape implies a lack of consent. In women’s rape fantasies, she is saying that she wants a guy to fuck her like a piece of meat but as long as it’s consensual. And I understand that fetish. A lot of guys have the fetish of being gagged by a girl or choked, but it doesn’t mean they want that to happen in real life. It’s just a fantasy. Having said, there are people (men and women) who are in love with prisoners. Men also do this shit, the difference is that people only pay attention when it’s a woman who sends letters to an inmate she’s attracted to. Men do this a lot as well, towards female inmates. It just goes unnoticed due to biased beliefs.
the majority of the world lives in poverty. So saying most people don’t live in the ghetto is wrong. Most of the world doesn’t even have clean water.Hmm so much I disagree with unfortunately I do not have the strength to this again with random girls on the internet so I’m just gonna say I’m different and I don’t believe what you believe.
@chris_987 If you don’t have the “strength” then just shut up and leave. I don’t have time to explain basic shit to some random weirdo on the internet who thinks women inherently are attracted to bad guys just because they’re bad. How incredibly ignorant.
We probably shouldn’t be having conversation like this through text, it’s a very inefficient way to communicate
@chris_987 Thought you were leaving? There’s the door babe
So looks matter to women? But I've seen a lot of uglies taking pretty girls
@Alex_988_2 It does matter quite a lot. It’s something called physical attraction lol. There’s a reason why there are hot male models and people women see as “friendzone material”
Your statement is contradicting... either you should has used doesn't in first sentence or fuck material in last
@Alex_988_2 It does matter. That's my point. Whether you accept that or not won't really change reality now, will it 😂
But it matters more for guys.
@Alex_988_2 Thats what some people say, but no it isn’t true. Guys are less picky about looks than women in reality. On paper, it seems like women care less about looks but in practice it isn’t true.
Sweetheart good luck in life with that. I'm good-looking n I was shallow AF untill I got mature, unlike you
@Alex_988_2 Thats not being shallow. It’s called having standards. If you’d date an ugly old fart then congratulations, you’re arare gem. But most people do not function like that. It’s not shallowness, it’s simple basic attraction.
Shallowness is when you only care about looks. Having standards is when you look everything about the person. So clearly ur shallow n I've standards.
And that's when you are immature. Like I'll not even look twice at your face bc of the dumbness I can smell from your texts while you'd still date me bc im good-looking. Even if I have treated you like crap
@Alex_988_2 See, this is where you’re wrong. You think we only care about looks. That’s not what I said at all now, did I. I said women do care a great deal about looks but we also care about your personality; who you are as an individual. Your looks attract me to you, but your personality encourages me to stay. m for the long term. I wouldn’t date someone who treated me like crap? Where did I say that?You’re just making random idiotic assumptions now and just wanna argue for the sake of it. Lol
Honey, I had a married girl come after me just bc im good-looking. She was so dumb even I used her n threw her like a toilet paper.
@Alex_988_2 Then you’re a trash human being just like her. If you call other people superficial you’re just projecting—you are just as bad as the girl who pursued you bc you were good looking
Were you fucked in the head last night? Fuckwit, she was so low to still chase me even with a husband and after being treated like shit by me. Similar is you who look more about looks, n then call others shallow you retarded motherfucker take your triggered stinky ass somewhere else to cry
@Alex_988_2 Nah, but apparently you don’t understand basic facts about human beings and you just proved to me that you’re just as much of a shit rag as that girl is. Looks are important but not everything. The only thing you proved to everyone here is that you’re as useless and as used up as the girl who kept chasing you down. Both of you are perfect for each other.I’m saying this because you treated her like shit and you seem proud of it. And she treated her husband like crap and didn’t care either. Both of you fit well together. You’re just a dumb hypocrite and don’t know how to read.
So by your logic, I should have appreciated her when she was cheating? I did the right thing by using her like a worthless whore. Bc she deserved it and this is what happens when women like you go for looks... they get used. Another thing bitch before I end wasting my time on you, women are not biologically as shallow as men. So women who go for it means they are at a lower level honey. Now fuck off
I tried to be very nice with you... But you were just so deserving of this attitude
@Alex_988_2 All you’re doing is proving how much of a shitty person you are. All I said was that physical attraction is very important and you took it so personally. I think you’re ugly as FUCK and you just wanna take your anger on me because women have rejected you in the past 😂😂😂
@Alex_988_2 That girl was pursuing you because she’s shallow and doesn’t care about men. But you only proved to be just as bad as she was. Go tell your little sad story to someone who actually gives a shit about your life (not me).
@navyrobinThe difference is: women go for Bad Boys BECAUSE of them being bad. It makes them „rebellious“ in the eyes of women and that makes them go wet. Of course being bad alone is not enough. You also have to be good looking and so on. Men go for physically attractive women DESPITE them being arrogant hoes.
@Tonytoutouni123 You literally did not differentiate men and women at all. You just said they do the same thing. And no, women don’t go for men who are bad just because they’re bad. You spend time watching too many Disney movies
OMG all women are hoes? Thanks for the update!
Why the sarcasm? That's the indirect implication that comes with this question, or at least what incels imply
If you'd like to explain a bit more
It's not the indirect implication just because you say it is. Sorry. You don't run this show. I do.
Wow, you're rude
Well, that's how I read this question. And that's my answer, whether you like it or not.It's a huge generalization and no, not all women like dating bad boys or have dated a lot of guys in their lives
Nobody said all women are anything... It's a question. If you want to make it something it's not then so be it. I don't really care.
And that's my answer: All people are different obviously.. Same goes for all other generalizations ("do all black people do that?", "do all teenagers think the same?")
It’s good to spend time with someone to truly find out who they are. Make sure to keep doing what you’re doing and keep wanting a good guy, never lower your standards for some jerk
@Vviiccttoorr But I thought I did know him. He and I were friends for months before we started dating. Unfortunately some people are willing to lie to get what they want. But that was years ago and I’m in a happy relationship now. My point is just that most women aren’t actively looking for bad guys, it’s just that bad guys like to lie and manipulate people to get what they want. If he had shown his true colors from the beginning I’d would’ve never given him the time of day.
Yeah sadly there are people like that, I’m sorry to hear about that but, I’m glad you’re in a happy relationship now. The bad people really help you appreciate the good people out there ya know
The real problem is even bad guys think they are good guys lol
Also a lot of guys who call themselves "nice" aren't very good people and are huge flipfloppers in who they like and who they don't. Then they blame their lack of success with women on women, even though they're the one who's the problem.Confidence and being true to yourself, people! It goes a long way, much more so than opening doors, buying flowers, all that "nice and romantic" stuff that in the end has no real meaning. It's who you are as a person that matters. People will see right through you if you're not being true to yourself."I remember before we started dating, he used to hold the doors for me, buy me chocolates and flowers call me m'lady, and that's how I fell in love with him" said absolutely no one ever
@evangeline777In other words women want or prefer good men who have plenty of good qualities but at the same are mentally strong and have lots of self respect and can stand up for themselves when required.
@serious Exactly! Women don't want a whiney doormat who says "I'm so nice, why can I get laid?"This is just a very good excuse to blame women for their unsuccessful dating life and lack of good personality traits.No women want a macho bad boy who will slap them if the dinner is not ready by the time he gets home. And the bad boy only means someone who is confident enough to not to care about the world and live according to his rules, but "nice" to the people he loves. If that makes sense. Not a pushover. (all these within healthy relationships and between mentally healthy people!)
@personwew So true! I have a guy friend for example, he is a good guy, very authentic, lives by his rules, he doesn't compliment etc but he is someone very loyal and genuine. I'd be all over him if he wanted. Being nice does not mean you bend over backwards for the p#ssy.
* Why can I not get laid? *
@evangeline777Honestly you said some really good points in your reply.
@evangeline777"Exactly! Women don't want a whiney doormat who says "I'm so nice, why can I get laid?"This is just a very good excuse to blame women for their unsuccessful dating life and lack of good personality traits." I don't know as a woman how to you see this but as a man I know there is a very clear difference between " NICE" men and " GOOD" men. Both are not the same.The example you gave in your above sentence is a nice guy who is living in self pity and constantly questions himself.Of course that is unattractive to women. Surely. No woman would find that quality appealing. True.Self pitying is one of the worst qualities a person can have. It shows they don't love themselves.
@evangeline777Continuing from the above point.Good men are those who have lots of self respect, they are selfish in good ways, they can easily refuse and say no when needed and are mentally tough to stand up and defend themselves in times of need. Good men are those who live their lives by their rules, by their morals, values and do what they want to do and face the consequences resulting out it. Good men are also more logical, rational as compared to NICE men.The above mentioned qualities are the ones the NICE men lack and that is what makes them a little bit unattractive. Especially to women.Nice guys are only nice, they only have positive and good qualities, they easily get emotional, sentimental and they rarely ever refuse and will readily sacrifice their needs and wants for the sake of others. They don't have the courage to stand up and defend themselves and to show their worth either by words or actions.As man man even I don't have very good opinion about men who are ONLY nice as that kind of niceness is a total waste in today's world. It won't serve any purpose and won't do any good.
@evangeline777"And the bad boy only means someone who is confident enough to not to care about the world and live according to his rules, but "nice" to the people he loves. If that makes sense. Not a pushover." Yes it does make sense but I would like to differ here. In my view, in my opinion what you have said is not a bad boy. This type of guy would be a highly intelligent guy who simply believes in living his life by his rules and is selfish in good ways and doesn't care about the world. Excellent. That according to me is not a bad boy but a highly intelligent good guy.
@evangeline777"I have a guy friend for example, he is a good guy, very authentic, lives by his rules, he doesn't compliment etc but he is someone very loyal and genuine."That is a great guy friend you have.
@Primrose21 such a good point most of them probably
What women consider a “doormat” vs what other guys consider a “doormat” are often not the same. For example I had to deal with a real piece of shit coworker and a hostile workplace years ago. The guy was a white knight (most female staff) and trying to sabotage me. I wanted to break his fucking jaw a few times. For real I was inches from doing it.But that was my only legit source of income. I was looking for a new job in the industry but I needed it at the time or I was screwed. So I got a new job and happily left. But the women at that company probably saw me as weak. They didn’t know anything about what I was going through personally. Also if I kicked this guys ass he would of definitely pressed charges. Good chance I wouldn’t get the awesome job I have now. But women tend to look at surface behavior when judging men and don’t see the deeper implications UNLESS they already have a crush on the guy. Then they ask for more.
I assure you it's very much alive
Are you hating because your single though? Or no.
Thank you 👏🏽 It’s not unless he is arrogant
Sorry to hear that but, make sure you do stick with good guys and never lower your standards to a jerk but, of course spend time with a guy to truly find out if he’s genuine
Sorry to hear that was your experience. I agree with that: People are very deceiving indeed
Yeah I get it. Happened to me once or twice.
Bless, not all guys are cunts. I think im nice if you want to chat
@britishbby The guys who say “I’m nice” are the ones who aren’t.
😂 I did say think, im not a pearl just know im not going to cheat or beat my girl
@britishbby 😂 I hope that’s true
@navyrobin well unless you count playfighting
@britishbby That sounds interesting 😂
What you mean 😂😂 its a bit of ruff and tumble... And my ex got upset if i didn't 😂
The last line, wdym
Why's that? What happened in your past?
Does name calling really solve anything?
I use gag to get ride of my anger. This is why I seem so agressive on gag.
@DexWest it only invalidates whatever she said before, sadly
normally bc women's attention span is the equivalent of 5 yo kids, u will get bored quite easily, and we have to try to impress u everyday
Would you all marry in your early 20s? If not then stfu.
@Syrian-Survivor are you all so much triggered by an insult? Stop act like you dont use it. I have seen you insulting me on gag. Now stfu, idiot. I can't stand hypocriticals
How can I act like an angel on gag, when i see so many hypocritical sexist idiots? By the it itvis just a fucking insult. Sometimes i just use it because that is how i am. Majority of gagers use insult
@Syrian_survivor stfu. Dont say a shit, when yourself use insults and especially name call people too. So everything you say is invalid too now?
@AFellowWeeb would you marry at 20? If not, you just prove my point. Young people can't commit
I am so sorry for spamming the asker. But i am going to explain before another idiot come here and say bs about me just because i dont agree with them when it comes to religion (islam) and feminism. I often got name called because of my feminist opnions or even got attacked online. sometimes i just write my opinions or questions in an agressive way but that does not mean i dont agree with my own opinions. It is just written in an agressive way. I dont own anyone here to be nice and especially when so many people constantly use insults and curse so much. I seriously dont understand why you are so suprised by an insult when many people do it on gag
to make things clear, i didn't got offended by ur opinion, i even responded with a joke, followed by my point of view, and about being aggressive, im aggressive too while responding, so yeah
Oh Cool ok and thank you for your understanding 😅
I will just apologize myself for sounding rude then. I did not mean to offend anyone personally with my first comment under this question.
Inner beauty def brings out outter beauty am I right
Yes but he is physically attractive despite his inner beauty. I saw his outter beauty before I saw his inner beauty
That’s really good, it is true that you do have to be physically attracted to the person you like and the inner beauty brings it out more. God you’re happy
At least you're honest about it.
Dip an apple in caramel and then sprinkle with peanuts and drop it on a dirty rug
ur the one still expelling energy respond
U make no sense sooo bye😗
Good at least you know when to take someone advice
Child why are u even under my comment? U tryna say something? U gotta problem with my comment go cry about it
Please don't criticize and call me names thank u
Please get out of my comments child thank u😘
Why does this girl bully me and criticize me? I have done it to her :(
Lmaoooo😭😭says the guy who was commenting stuff that didn’t make sense under my comment? and then gonna try to play victim? Bye
Not making sense isn't bullying.
Not making sense isn't an excuse for you to attack people either
Reported with photo evidence to admins. :)
@VlLEEE Why are you summoning olderandwiser? Just leave the comments.
@VILEEE omg u reported me for doing nothinggg awww lemme go cry🥺 get the fuck outta my comments cause your tryna start something when I keep saying bye😚
@SavageGirl101 He won't be back... he blocked me... big baby LOL
I 👏 JUST 👏 can't 👏 SIS😤
People are so weird tbh the bad boy thing is so bad once you get a little older you realize it's cringe
@nerdybutlazy EXACTLYYYYY people won’t stop with that
You still are 15 I guess then
That’s a good point it can happen
Hahaha I'm 15? Pff if I'm 15 you're 10!
What about the guy who was always a gentlemen because he was raised to treat women right? What’s his reward?
Wow, well you did not know lot of guys then. I always try to be nice, I may not be the nice guy, but I know what respect is. Definitely ain't no bad boy either.. These bad boys probably didn't even live their mom. I do and always will hence why I respect women way more than these so called bad boys. They were probably raised more by a pig of a father. I can be bad when needed. You thinking they mature lol, most do not. They treat women like objects. All they want, is to fuck all women they meet.
Loving your mom does not mean you respect women! I'm not saying there aren't any nice guys I'm just saying I dont believe on such a thing as a nice guy!
Get your IQ checked. I think it's not enough for even a 7 yo brat. You seriously have no life experience
Hahahahs you have no life experience! You don't know me "bruh"
You should get your IQ checked! And don't hate the player learn to play the game! Dont attack me, attack my opinion otherwise you make this whole thing personal and you don't even know me and i dont know u either so why do i care what you say! It makes no sense you know! Waste of my time to even continue this debate!
I want to apologize, being a gentleman, if I went unknowingly personal. But your statement sure sounds to me comming from a teenage girl: like I'll change this bad boy fantasy which only happens in fiction
I didn't say I'll challenge a fantasy, you can't change a person, you can only accept them as they are. That is why you shouldn't enter a relationship with the intention to fix the person. I'm saying eventually with time, bad boys become nice guys. Here is why, a bad boy is just a guy who has had his heart broken and instead of working through it and his feelings he has chosen to avoid them and go on a "fucking spree." But this is his mistake, and there comes a time in every person's life where maturity hits and they become aware of their mistakes and that's when they change, but that doesn't mean they aren't good to begin with. That just means they've made the wrong choices. Everyone makes mistakes but we learn from them just like a bad guy will learn to be a good guy! With time comes wisdom!
I accept your apology nonethe less!
So why not choose a good guy? Being bad for whatever reason is not an excuse
I didn't say i wouldn't choose a good guy! I didn't say there is an excuse to being bad. I just explained why any bad good is a good guy and any good guy can be a bad guy! Life is a paradox because people are both bad and good in their ways! It's a matter of maturity and awareness. Kinda like what goes up must come down. What is down must go up. Learning to fly its balance!
Hmm makes sense now. Follow me here by the way
Trust me if they are not nice when they are young, they won't be when they grow up. People don't change.
@coachtanthony @dandiecandie follow me
@Alex_988_2 Where are we going?
In my followers list
@dandiecandie follow me
Alex why dont you follow me?
Bc I want more followers. N how u responded, makes me wonder what I initially thought about u again
Hahaha that's not how you get more followers.
I responded with common sense!
Im allowed to question people! I dont need to blindly follow you!
@dandiecandie u following me or not
No I dont have a reason to follow You!
U don't need a reason u d...
Yeah I do!
Let's hear it then..
Well that's some **** wrapped up in golden wrapping paper 😂😂
@realperson02 Yeah exactly. 'nice guys' finish last is a saying I use when it's about guys who either don't make a move, or think that they're nice when they actually aren't
I love when wonen say this because it's some catch 22 s***, and THEY know it! If they dig you, you're in, no worries. If they don't dig you they can say what you just said. And if the guy protests " see you're only re-affirming what i suspected" lmao.It's a put up deal fellas don't play this game.
@ChiTown33 ah good you love it! :)
😁 well all a guy can do is laugh. It's one of the biggest falsehoods ever sold. Right up there with " i didn't like his personality". Now she may genuinely not like his personality either but 9 times out 10 it means " he's ugly to me".
Make sure you stay that way
I hope you stay that way, honestly. That'd make you a gem in the dating world
I'm only 5'6 and haven't had any issues. Congrats on being tall though.
They’re not gonna tell you to your face, they’re gonna cheat on short guys with tall guys. A girl was seeing me and see had a boyfriend
Women don't cheat on short guys for tall guys... no no no.. women cheat on guys because they have no idea what they are doing in the sack. So many women have told me tall guys suck in bed because well they think they are tall so they don't have to do very much lol
Why that’s why the girl cheated on her short boyfriend because he wasn’t hitting it right. One of the first things she told me was her boyfriend was 5 feet and she asked how tall I was. Every woman loves a tall masculine, muscular attractive guy
You're a gem