I know what a crossdresser is. Crossdressers are different from trans people. Trans women are women. Trans men are men. That is no such as "real" gender when talking about trans - they are the gender they want to be, regardless of what birth gender.
I’m straight lol I prefer to date just guys. I’m cool wit anyone who’s trans ofc but I wouldn’t date I don't know I’m jus straight not pan sexual or anything
Ok? U got a issue cuz I would prefer to date someone who is their gender. Jus said trans r fine but dating a guy with a vagina or smth like it’s ok to not like someone who’s trans in that way. Despite looking at ur profile I can guess ur one of those quIrKy gIrLs 🤪.
prefer who you want to idc but you're basically saying that they're not guys and invalidating them. and one of those quirky girls? nah i just respect people..
Biologically no.. It wasn’t even meant that deep ur just twisting my words into smth negative. You can’t change people interests. Bunch of people said no is that disrespectful? Hm I don't know. But ur bein a snowflake there's no difference to change my opinion on who I should like. There’s 2 meanings of being straight lol u can still be straight liking someone who’s trans yea but also can be straight jus liking someone’s true gender. Wasn’t offensive
Okay jus cuz in the definition when ur pan sexual u like someone who is non-binary , or someone’s gender identity. Haha embarrassing well straight means being attracted to the opposite gender and sex. Fr look it up being attracted to the opposite sex. If anything u know I’m not trying to hate on any ones identity so why were u trying to anyway. Like accept people for who they are lol. I have friends that are trans n they are fine wit my opinion too
It’s hard to explain but just I dont feel attraction ok. That’s it. Whatever I said I don't know what’s considered what. I said what I said. But I jus find it funny how u took it wrong. Being straight n dating a trans yea it’s their identity. Being straight n dating someone that’s their sex is also different in a way
well ok just don't be like "no lol im straight" it just sounds invalidating.. the fact that ur straight doesn't have to do anything with it.. also straight people can be attracted to non binary people..
I wasted my time as well cuz u commented :) . But I jus hope u see that u can still be right even with peoples different opinions. I’m glad to see yours but my opinion is different and wouldn’t change any difference of getting along. Having a different view that’s not even meant to be bad tbh shouldn’t have to be corrected. But ig yea If that’s how u would take my answer. bYe : P
Hold on everyone. A lot of people are flipping out because GAG had a click bait question before the original question if anyone caught that. First gag asked would you date bla bla bla someone who changed their biological sex. Everyone or any non mental person would know you can't change your biology, nor your gender biologically. Gender is the word. Old school used the word sex. As in which sex are you, male or female. Its gender. Glad we're over that. Sexual preference is one thing, gender is another. I feel like I'm going back into a time warp for people who haven't caught on to this. I'm transsexual the medical dictionary term for identifying as the opposite gender/female. Biologically male and i will always be biologically male. Transgender is the new fangled word for transsexual. They adopted the new word because people confused transsexuals as being gay bla bla bla. I for one do not promote all this lgbtq shit. Im a male that looks like a female. Not entirely but moreso. Facially I'm male but not overly masculine. I have more of a girls body than most women do. Naturally by birth. I dont claim bathroom rights nor walking into a girls school locker room with a dick. That would be utterly ridiculous... Unless convincingly enough you look like a female, boyish or not. Not all biological females look very feminine. Until you have your penis removed, a vagina made in , dont parade around with all your feministic claimed rights. Im old school transgender, not some fucked up kid manipulated by utterly disgusting parents that again manipulated their child at 6,8, 10, 12 years old that they can be trans. This fucking country , abusive parents and doctors that allow this are on the level of pedophiles. Im transsgender in a whole different way that never supported this insanity. Weak minded irresponsible parents raised a sissy, that now suddenly to escape their parenting responsibilities say hey, lets just get them on hormones, utterly destroying their lives without thinking of the suicidal consequences. Your kid at best will become a porn hub star. Hell you tube porn star. Displaced in the work force. I still feel feminine, I crossdress, but thank God it took an 80 page report from a forensic gender identity expert to beat it in my head the consequences of going on hormones, changing my body even more, my life and career. And I didn't. Only the filthy rich dare to go down that road. I'll guarantee you that that girl gigi without her wealthy parter, would become suicidal without that support. Even without the money you are fake externally. You are nothing more than a novelty mascot. And I'll bet my life that I'm right. Now as far as dating a trans. Not picking on an obese 300 pound woman. You have a gut and don't even resemble what God intended a female to look like. If a trans girl looked even two thirds what an ideal female should look like, a 7 on the scale, as opposed to an ugly whale, not just obese, but not good looking at all, I'll roll with the one that looks more female. Its sad to say today that there are better looking trans girls than a lot of biological females. Shit there are feminine boys, that look more like girls than girls do. I'll guarantee you that if you were the last 3 people on earth, a 500 pound female, a Pamela Anderson in her prime with a dick , or no dick but with a vagina biologically male, ,,, you're going to procreate with the fat woman but you'll be hanging out with the trans version of young Pamela Anderson, or angelina Jolie until you die. You're in denial if you've been fucking a hot female for 5 years only to find out she is biologically male. As opposed to the other option. And I'm sorry to paint that picture to make a point
What utter SHIT! If there is a “God” that you speak of, that God created women like we are. “Pamela Anderson” was not even looking the way “God” created her, she had ribs removed surgically and silicone in her breasts and lips. You don’t have a female gender, you are a man and you are more misogyn than any other man here. You fetishize and objectify women, say that we only exist to look like YOUR barbie ideal that is created through surgery and hormones. Kelly Clarkson or Adele before her weight loss were more female than you’ll ever be, I don’t care if you are thin and have breasts made of plastic. I am also thin and hour glass shaped but also women with flat chests or “300 pound women” are equally women. To be woman is not a feeling and it is not a right men have. My sex is female but my soul is androgyn. My soul does not have a sex, “gender” is actually destructive. Boys should be allowed to dress how they want or be gay without hearing that they probably are a woman. Girls should know they are all girls no matter if they are thin, fat, tall, small etc.
I see you value science, that is a great start. So what you’re saying is that there are 2 sexes as in male xy, and female Xx. But, as a basic biology expert, you must be familiar with x and y variations. A small percentage of humans have a divergent sexual development known as intersex, these people are born with any of several variations in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones, or genitals that do not fit the typical definitions for male or female bodies. This range of atypical variations may be physically obvious at birth, or at the other extreme range, not obvious and may remain unknown to people all their lives. So now you know about the multiple sexes of basic biology, which refers the the socially constructive roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men and gender diverse people. So, a transgender women is, by all definitions, still a woman. That’s just basic biology.
@lemonbutter You have been so indoctrinated with the insanity that came from the Communist Jews of the Frankfurt School that you argued that day was night and night was day. A trans ‘woman’ is not a woman. That is the self-evident observable reality. Surgery cannot change the reality. Pandering to the illness of those who have gender dysphoria makes their illness worse and contributes to their increased risk of suicide. To my ongoing surprise that I would agree with any Feminist about anything, I share the view of Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists that trans ‘women’ are not women, just delusional men in dresses.
@lemonbutter Wow. This was a lot of mental gymnastics and psuedo-science in order to basically say nothing. You're not going to be able to mentally confuse people into thinking a dude is a female or vice versa. Transwomen are objectively, literally, biologically are not women or female in any sense of the word. Same for transmen, but at least most of them can pass. At best, you can try to mutate the words "woman/women" until they've lost all meaning and you can then sneak the traps in there with the term. But that's more disrespectful to women than anything else.
People can believe they're a magical space fairy from Neptune, for all they want. It doesn't mean anyone else is obligated to play along with your fantasies.
I'd consider it, yes, especially if we click. I do have a problem with trans that few ever mention but should get more attention and that is economics. The blunt truth is being able to undergo surgery for transition costs plenty and when a surgeon is working on that, they could instead be operating to save a life. To be fair, this is true for many cosmetic surgeons, whether for transition or to make bigger boobs, but still true nonetheless. Though if a trans person can realize maybe they went a bit far and/or at least promise to be financially frugal after, then I'd consider. I think I'd be more inclined to date a crossdresser and they can wear a fake vagina for any sexual stuff if needed. It would be nice cause then I get a guy's personality, looks that I admit I fall for easier, and and if any sex, no risk of disease or pregnancy.
Many guys out there like me can't stand the average female for dating and you can bet 100% so many guys here denying they'd date a trans woman or even a crossdresser are liars as they often blend in quite well with the rest of women out there and are harder to figure out depending on how hard they work at it. Blunt truth.
But with a trans gal, you'd notice the likeliness of being good at/interested in games, certain shows, sports, hunting, computer stuff, working on cars, philosophy, etc. would go up (not automatic, just likeliness) and admit it or not, this sort of personality would in fact be attractive to a guy vs a regular female who prefers shopping and gossip girls. Not ALWAYS, but many times, yes.
In theory, yes, because I've nothing against the concept of sex reassignment. I can completely have transgender friends, colleagues, bosses etc. But in practice I'd have problems with a transgender -partner- and this is not because of their body but because I'd feel this person as too much demanding, very likely emotionally unstable and that went through this huge problem in their life since the childhood. You can't cancel quickly the effects of all those years of bad perception of their own bodies and years of transitioning process (battling themselves and the society), and the fact they are transgender is the very central topic of their daily life, over the fact that also their social life (online or not) is most likely made of transgenders, and it involves a world of concepts/rules/terms that someone external would have to carry. I think I don't want to share all this, I mean it sounds like a too "expensive" partner to me. I have already my problems and I'm a very complex and "expensive" person as well. I've just no room for that... As well as for many other demanding kinds of partner.
No and I won’t apologize for it either. I don’t want to date someone who was born with the Y chromosome. I want to do date someone who was born with ovaries.
Now I’m also libertarian meaning I don’t care what other people do in their lives just as long as it doesn’t interfere with mine. I don’t care if people are gay, bi, trans or whatever is next. I also think some people have very sick bizarre sexual fantasies but have the self control to never act on it. You can’t police people’s thinking but you can control how their actions impact others.
So for you guys on here who voted yes, well the more power to you. But trans women are trans women to me. They are not women.
Also I will never bully, harass or discriminate against transsexuals (unless they do it to me first) but you will never get me to defy science to agree with your opinion. You can not judge me for I am and am not attracted to.
The only very rare exception I might make is if someone was born a hermaphrodite and embraced one gender. If they had to get surgery to remove existing sexual organs while keeping existing ones that’s understandable.
But again a very rare physical genetic anomaly they have no control over and I support them embracing the gender identity they choose.
Very well said, once again! And the fact that you have to make it clear that you don't discriminate transsexuals in order not to POSSIBLY offend someone shows how low (western) society has dropped. I swear I'm starting to believe middle-eastern society is the last healthy frontier of society that isn't joking on the far left-wing crap. This video came to my mind and it speaks volumes on its own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ1dgmoihoM
No one changes their “sex”. They merely alter their “parts”. An XY remains an XY and an XX remains an XX. Just because some XY decides to get bolt on tits and and inverted wind sock does not mean they suddenly become an XX, have a uterus, ovaries containing eggs with their 23 chromosomes, and mammary glands in the event of becoming pregnant and having a live birth. The same can be said of an XX deciding to turn their innie into an outie. Their eggs containing ovaries do not miraculously become sperm containing testicles nor do they suddenly produce greater levels of testosterone. Hence why both must have hormone replacement and get the plastic surgery to change their physical appearances. That is all it does, chance an “appearance”. Not their sex. Science hasn’t yet come that far.
This whole notion that “gender” is a “social construct” is itself the actual social construct and a destructive social construct at that.
Anyway, no, I am only ‘intimately’ interested in the opposite sex - XX.
The world we are living in won't allow us that choice soon. People call everything discrimination when the harsh reality is of you have a preference for something why should that be a form of discrimination... I would like to have kids the natural way as a woman with a man of this gender by birth. I don't want a donor or anything else unless we are unable to have children. Some people may argue there being a god given reason why I cannot have kids with my partner if it ever came to that and for me maybe that is true. But I would try if the option was availabile. But for me to date someone of transgender I would find it difficult. That's just me... And I'm sure I'll get abused for saying this but that's what I feel. There are others who don't care about these type of things
This is probably not going to be a well-received response - but trans-guys are not my thing only because they are usually smaller guys. I have a preference of larger guys, tall guys, and men who can grow a nice beard. Most trans guys still have traces of femininity that isn't for me. In fact, I can usually spot a trans right away because their body never entirely changes. Trans guys I've met often still have delicate arms, or good birthing thighs -- features typical of women. And about the facial hair, it's usually spotty or fine and soft. It just physically isn't my thing.
If I met a very manly, rugged trans guy who really fooled me, if I wasn't married, well, there's the sex thing too. I would expect there to be working parts that men have. So a penis that can be erect, cum, etc. If it's a rugged, masculine guy who didn't have the parts, then I wouldn't be comfortable with that.
Unless a fetish is involved I really don't see the average guy choosing to date someone trans if he has any semblance of choice in his dating life.
I get attraction isn't a choice. But if you're a dude. Attracted to women. A man who feels as if he's a woman, maybe even gets surgery to be more womanly won't change the fact he's a man.
You'd have to lie to yourself everyday that you're not dating another man. If you're someone who wants kids that's a genetic dead end for you without some mad scientist work involved.
Just hard for me to imagine someone truly being happy in their life and also choosing to do that. Just never see it
I am not homosexual, if that's what the question is truly asking. No, I would not, and someone once had a perfect anology to this: If you put a hat, sunglasses, and a jacket on a cow and then had sex with it, would it no longer be beastiality or just "two consenting adult humans?" It was a perfect analogy. Wearing makeup, a wig, and a dress doesn't change the fact this person is still a man. And regardless of what SJW's like to think, no straight person is going to forcefully change their sexuality just to avoid being labeled "a transphobe" (as if anyone is supposed to give a f**k).
So no. Wouldn't date a guy now living as a female, or vice versa.
No, I would not date someone who changed his or her original sex. Biological sex can't be changed. A person's sex is determined by their sex chromosomes and roles during reproduction. If a person has 46, XY chromosomes and the reproductive role to produce sperm and fertilize egg cells, then that person is male. If a person has 46, XX chromosomes and the reproductive role to produce egg cells and give birth to offspring, then that person is female. Sex chromosomes cannot be altered and while reproductive roles can be removed, they can't be replaced. Therefore, a person that supposedly had a sex change is still the sex that he or she was born with. Of course, this answer doesn't spread hate, but facts. I'm straight and I prefer to date men that were born male.
you gave the right answer but you were so scared to go against the PC crowd you had to write an entire paragraph of disclaimers. that's not living free
@007kingifrit: I don't focus on being "politically correct," just correct. I wrote my answer the way I did so that I could explain how I'm scientifically correct. This has nothing to do with politics, but biology.
you had to add that little last bit about how your answer doesn't spread hate. so that's not entirely true. you're afraid of them. i don't know if you know that or not but you aren't free to speak your mind the way you want because of those SJW
@007kingifrit: I put that because I often get accused of being hateful for posting this kind of answer. It's basically me explaining how I'm not hateful so that people won't accuse me of it in the comments. I rather not go back and forth with users that think I'm bigoted, so I put it in the answer before they even respond to me. I'm not "afraid" of anybody and I'm always free to speak my mind. I expect disagreements, but I'm not always in the mood to go back and forth on certain subjects. I don't like having to explain how I'm not hateful.
@007kingifrit: Your point makes no sense because I'm focusing on being scientifically correct, not politically correct, nobody is bullying me, nor am I "afraid" of engaging with anybody. I'm just simply saying that I'm not being hateful to prevent people from accusing me of it. Based on the thumbs up I've gotten and the lack of replies calling me hateful, I'm assuming it worked.
So basically a guy? because a male to female tranny is still a guy, jus a guy that looks like a girl.. its like if I put a wig on and got a bra and filled it with tissue and said I’m now a girl... the only difference is the trannies go the extra mile and get voice change operation... boob job, etc etc... but they’re still guys... jus guys that have been altered to now look female
and since I’m heterosexual.. no way... would never date a guy or a guy who looks female
If I ever found out that I was with someone who lied about their original gender or chose to not disclose this to me. I would lose my fucking shit. Especially if we ever had sexual intercourse. I would file rape charges and then promptly kill myself.
Not really. Being completely honest. I've already got a fucked up past as far as relationships go. If that particular situation happened, then it'd definitely be a tipping point.
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no that's super fucked up. they are lying to themselves and by extension me. nobody can really change their sex its a biological fact. they also couldn't have my kids, don't look good, and all of that surgery might look fine in porn when they're 20 but let me tell you it starts to sag not long after that
Nobody says "you can't change your gender," because they said you can't change your sex. Although ironically, gender has multiple meanings; one as a lifestyle choice, and two, as a synonym for biological sex. So maybe YOU should educate yourself, in the chance you think gender only has one meaning and want to do a "checkmate" to those who are "conflating" gender and sex. Before transurgery became a thing, gender and sex WERE identical meanings.
i'm better educated than you. and you can't change your gender, the idea that gender is different from sex is pseudoscience. it cannot be empirically observed and is thus not a scientific concept.
How can a person change whether they are male or female? With very rare exceptions (hermaphrodites) you're born as one or the other, and that's what you will remain for the rest of your life, so my answer has to be a firm "no", because you're asking a question that doesn't even make sense to begin with.
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Nope. What you are born as is what you are. You can delude yourself all you what and cut off your genitals, but you'll always remain the woman or the man you were born with. And I only date women. REAL women. Not men pretending to be women.
Look, if they're honest, mentally stable and a cool person, then yes, I have no problems with that. The problem for me is that a lot of trans people, even after transitioning, still don't feel good about themselves. A lot of the time there's still a lot of mental problems holding them back, which is a deal breaker for a lot of people, including me. Two of my best friends have come out as trans to me first, so it's not like I'm exactly looking from the outside in either.
Seems this question comes up every other week. I think any trans who expects all straight people to be open to dating them is gonna be disappointed. I got nothing against trans people for wanting to live their own lives in peace, but they should know the hard realities that await them after transitioning. Their best bet is to date a bisexual, because most straight people are only interested in dating the opposite biological sex.
Yes, I am bisexual and I CAN be attracted also to transpeople. It is not my choice or me being “open minded”, it is my sexuality that gets attracted to charisma and a personal connection, not a specific sex or body type. But I cannot stress how disgusting the rhetoric is that doesn’t respect lesbians, gays and straight people.
@Vewrie sorry, I'm not sure I understand your contention, was something I said "disgusting rhetoric" in your view? I just woke up so maybe I'm missing an obvious point
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