Do people really still care about race when dating? Why?
I honestly don't care as long as he treats me right and we have things in common. With that being said, I've dating and liked many guys outside my race and I'd happily do so again if the right one came along.
Wow, someone's really bothered by the fact that some don't have issues dating outside their race - blue downvotes, so not referring to the asker.
Personally, I don't really have a preference, any race will do, as long as the person fit's my standards, but for the sake of answering the question, I'll say outside of my race.
I come from a Pakistani background (UK born and raised though) and whilst most other people of my race are Muslim, I'm not and wouldn't date one, simply because I'm not one myself and we'd be incompatible, so I think I'm more likely to find someone compatible outside my race, due to religious differences, at least.
In terms of what I'm generally attracted to, I'm quite into East Asian girls, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese, as well as light, paled skin mixed girls, kind of like a young Lisa Bonet, but I think they're hard to find - I wrote a myTake on it, if you wish to check it out, it's a lot to read, but if nothing else, it has a few pictures of some of the girls who are pretty attractive to me, including the examples above.
All in all, as long as I'm compatible with the person and they fit my standards, I only care about their race, enough to know what background they come from, as I find it interesting, but I'm not going to look down on anyone if they're come from any specific one.
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Kenneth14621 | 53 opinions shared on Dating topic.
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I am white. And even though I think tanned skinned races look the best. Not black. But like latino, philipino... etc I just have more in common with a white woman. There are stereotypes out ther and I have been made fun of called racist hillbilly redneck my whole life. Those are stereotypes about white people. And I know a white woman has been through the same thing her whole life. So we have very simular opinions and ideas.. etc. I have tried relationships with members of other races. And we were attracted to eachother. But we did not get along. Her attitude was bad to me. Because she didn't understand where I was coming from. And niether did I to her. I would find something offensive and she would have no idea why I found it offensive. And she would find something offensive and I would have no idea why she found it offensive. As long as staereotypes exist in the world interacial relationships will not be as successful as relationships of the same race. White people are way more likely to be republican, while other races are way more likely to be democrat. At some point you will have an argument about that. That is just one of many examples.
I honestly couldn’t give damn! Choosing to marry, or worse NOT marry someone due to an immutable characteristic like race, is probably the dumbest reason to not marry someone EVER! First why did you date him if you absolutely would NOT marry someone of that race? Honestly I think different religion is a better reason to not marry someone, than race! Oh it’s STILL stupid, but at least w/ religion you have to think about how you’ll raise the kids, whose parents will you spend the holidays with, and of course the ever popular “FINE! If we call it a Hanukkah bush, can we get a goddamn Christmas tree?
I don't have a preference and I am open to anyone, any race. But lately, I have been finding myself trying to date outside my race but not because I don't like my own. I am Hispanic/Latin and I have always had a negative experience with women my own race, most don't even pay attention to me, so I believe that my own race doesn't even like me. Growing up the girls that would make fun of me were Latina girls. And the ones that would always talk to me or even give me attention were women outside my race. Even to this day, the attention I receive is from women outside my race, While Latinas still ignore me. Around me, a lot of Latinas want a tall dark skin man, and I am on the dark skin's side but I am not tall so they see me as less.
some people may prefer to get married within their race/community/lineage/ancestry. Different countries different cultures. some people may find people of a different country hotter. I feel that some white men find chinese (Asian?) woman hot.
again some white men search for east european (russian?) brides. or even mexican (latina?) brides.
some south Asian men crave for a white girl.
different people different choices. can't be generalised.
for me, i already love someone madly. but he is neither my race or religion. i hope some day he married me and i give him 2 kids.
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I'm Dutch and although I PREFER to date within my own race, I still date outside of my own race. The reason why I prefer to date within my own race is because of cultural differences can influence the relationship in a bad way. I've dealt with it and people I know have dealt with it aswel. I've dealt with racism before. That's the only reason why I would prefer it. An example is a higher divorce rate of interracial marriages.
Still, most girls I've dated including my current gilrfriend are outside my race. And race or cultural differences were never an issue other than that one time. And living in a multicultural country, I would be limiting the dating pool significantly if I were to focus primarily on Dutch girls. A lot of white girls here aren't even ethnically Dutch. So yeahh...
I've found that my preferences are more determined by national origin and traditional values but I do choose to continue the progress in evolutionary advantages obtained by my ancestors in choosing a wife who is of a similar national background to me.
I have admiration but not a desire to marry certain cultures such as the Japanese who it seems differ quite a bit from other Asians.
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I personally don’t care as long as I’m physically attracted to them. Now my celebrity crush is Kai from exo, and he’s Asian while I never had a thing for Asian guys. I also once had a crush on a brown eyed brunette man and then on a blondie. by the way I’m white so I would probably say Asian if that Asian is Kai lmao. But maybe the next time I may say white, Latino or black if I end up crushing on a black, or a Latino or a white guy.
I mean I'm mixed, White and black but I didn't get a n word pass or privilege.
Like to call myself a gram cracker or a Ritz.
Race dosnt matter what is important is their love for me, race is only skin deep and dosnt or rather shouldn't define you as a person, iv never thought about my race
I would prefer to marry a human over a dog, if that is what you mean by race. If you mean skin color then besides the fact that we are still the same race, I would prefer to marry within just because I am typically more attracted to people of my race, but I am not against it by any means, I don't want to pointlessly close doors on relationships.
I believe when people say race they are referring to a distinct evolutionary and cultural difference that extends past skin color. This is similar to the canine term breed ex: Doberman and Poodle.
@comrade1027 Yes that is true, but because we compare whites and blacks like labradors and chihuahuas we treat them exponentially differently, if we just treated it like chocolate lab vs white lab then we would have much more of an honest equality.
@comrade1027 if u want to be technical humans are all the same “breed” it’s more like black lab vs yellow lab like the other guy said. An example of a different “breed” of humans would be Neanderthals but those have gone extinct. Currently, Homo sapiens are the only breed of humans that have survived to modern day so technically/scientifically we’re all the same breed/race just we have differing colors and characteristics like how labradors have different characteristics, some are light some are brown, etc.
Just because something results in more equality does not mean it's scientifically and historically accurate.
Homo sapien would be a specie and we do not exist as a single breed or race. Another way of phrasing the term race would be variety or subspecies.
Let's say we go with your assumption that say Caucasoids and Africans have equal genetic differences between each other as the different types of Labs. I feel it's important to point out that even these animals differ in more than fur color.
"Coloured Labrador retrievers have, on average, 10% shorter lives than black or yellow Labradors, according to a study we co-published today in Canine Genetics and Epidemiology. Ear infections and skin diseases are also more common in chocolate Labradors than non-chocolate Labradors.
Color might not seem linked to health at first glace, but some connections between coat color and disease in dogs are well established. The Piebald or "S" gene variants can increase the amount of white in a dog's coat and lighten its eyes to blue, but also cause high rates of deafness in one or both ears."
Homo Sapiens are not just a "breed" of hominid but are in fact a separate specie than say Homo Habilis, etc.
Interestingly, modern hominids have been shown to have different levels of intermarriage with these primitive hominids. Europeans having higher Neanderthal variants for example which are essentially non existent in sub Saharan Africans.
I'm not sure if you've heard of the taxonomic ranking system for zoological nomenclature so i'll reproduce it here.
@comrade1027 yes we are of the same species. But there isn’t an equivalent of “breeds” in humans a because dog breeds are more genetically different from one another than humans are. I was just saying if we were to go alone with the dog example it would be more accurate to say we all belong to same “breed” because unlike dog breeds all humans pretty much share the same basic characteristics and in fact all humans share 99.9% of the same DNA which is too similar for us to be considered different sub species. Our genetic differences are superficial like skin color, hair texture, nose size/shape, etc and therefore aren’t enough for us to have distinct sub species. Like you said with Labrador’s, even beyond color there are differences in life expectancy/disease etc which can be seen with humans as well, but just like as with labradors, this isn’t enough difference for us to be considered distinct sub-species/breeds.
But basically my point is, scientifically humans all belong to same species and sub species. There are no such things as different human “breeds” and it would be scientifically inaccurate to say that humans of differing ethnic backgrounds are distinct sub species or breeds the way that dogs are. Ultimately race is a social concept rather than a genetic truth. humans have many differences across the table that can be owed to culture, ethnic background, environmental facts etc but this doesn’t change the fact that, scientifically speaking, there is only 1 human race that exists on earth today.
It seems they have made perhaps a deliberate error in using the U. S. census definitions of various races. Their classifications are a bit different than that of historical migrations and genetics. For example, some Latin Americans, Jews, southern Italians, etc may have significant nonCaucasoid admixture. In this way you can quickly mix up/blend the racial groups which distorts any comparison.
@comrade1027 that’s the point. The definition of “race” changes based on what time period/context you are talking to because race is a social concept which you just proved in your comment. It is not a scientific fact which stays constant across all cultures/contexts. So it’s appropriate to talk about race in a social/cultural context but scientifically speaking there’s only one human race and we are of the same species and sub species.
I agree that skin color and geographical locations alone are not currently very useful in studying human genetic diversity.
However, just because historical populations made some errors in their classifications of what race is doesn't negate the scientific fact that heredity and ethnic differences are almost 100% determined by genetics.
Carolus Linnaeus developed an early system of dividing humans into sub-species based on geographical location. At the time this was a very reliable marker of race for his country Sweden.
Genetic based race is simply keeping up with the times as it allows us to be more accurate. I also agree that for scientific purposes, geneticists should not limit themselves to skin color as a marker of genetics and race.
I know of multi-racial individuals who display prominent recessive racial traits despite having a grandfather for example who was clearly of a separate racial group.
In modern population genetics and evolutionary biology, racial groups are no longer fixed between continents, but the race concept is a way to understand the frequency of genes in differing human populations.
@comrade1027 that’s the thing though humans are genetically 99.5% the same so there are NO genetic differences that are significant enough for us to scientifically say that there a sub species of humans. When you refer to ethnic differences, ethnicity has to do with ones cultural background. And culture is by definition “ the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group.” it has nothing to do with genetics or DNA or any of that you keep conflating societal constructs like ethnicity and culture with biological concepts like DNA and genetics when they’re two separate things. Race, like ethnicity, is a social construct. Which is why it’s definition is constantly evolving and changing. Scientifically though there is one human race. And Carolus Linneas made lasting contributions to taxonomy, etc but we’re in the 21st century now and it’s apparent that not all his theories/classifications are scientifically correct. Modern day scientists agree there’s only 1 human race so if you’re interested in this subject you should read up on more recent studies bc they’d be more accurate. Bc tbh citing linneas on this subject is kind of like citing Aristotle when talking about astronomy bc his ideas have been proven wrong by now.
"Genetically 99.5% similar." Half a percent is VAST when it comes to DNA. According to your number, which I take you got from Ventner, some humans have.2% MORE similarities to Neanderthals at 99.7% similarity.
In comparing the genome of Craig Venter to that of the consensus human genome reference sequence, there is about 1.2% difference when indels and CNVs are considered, 0.1% when SNPs are considered: ≈0.3% when inversions are considered — a grand total of 1.6% but let's look at comparisons to other species.
We are roughly 98.8% similar to chimps. 98% similar to pigs. 90% similar to cats. 60% similar to bananas.
Each human cell contains roughly three billion base pairs, or bits of information. Just 1.2 percent of that equals about 35 million differences. Some of these have a big impact, others don't.
@comrade1027 yes but 98% is different enough to be considered a separate species 99.5% is not. Like you said the smallest amount makes a difference so even though humans are only 1.5% more similar to each other than we are compared to chimps that is enough to constitute us as too similar to be belonging to sub species. But this isn’t my opinion anyways I’m not trying to convince you to believe my opinion. This is a simple biological fact. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3737365/ This is another scientific journal which explains it well. All the articles I’ve linked so far explain in more eloquent terms than I can how race is a social construct rather than a biological one. I think you’ll find these articles interesting if you’re into anthropology/biology/taxonomy, etc. cause maybe you don’t realize it, but the notion that human races are genetically dissimilar enough to be seen as subspecies is actually a racist, and untrue, fallacy that historically has been used to justify the mistreatment of certain races and to argue against interracial relationships. It’s scientifically untrue and has been proven as such. I don’t think you’re being purposefully racist which is why I’m trying to explain to you why you are misinformed on the subject. You seem really smart but I think you have some outdated information on the topic since you are citing people like Linnaeus.
I mentioned Linnaeus merely to explain taxonomy to you and how we cannot throw the baby out with the bath water.
I take it you would characterize modern humans as a separate species from Denisovans and Neanderthals?
It may be surprising for you to learn modern humans are closer to those species than polar bears are to brown bears. Than coyotes are to wolves. And several other separate species.
"Our desire to categorize the world into discrete boxes has led us to think of species as completely separate units,"
Social science fears of racism have blacklisted this possibility for modern humans.
Scientific opinion is not a monolith. We are continually producing studies seemingly at odds with each other.
You've admitted that there is a genetic biological difference between populations. Whether you call this race or not, it still exists.
@comrade1027 yes I do think we are separate species from Neanderthals and Denisovans and while some humans have small traces of Neanderthal/Denisovan DNA, these sub species of humans are more extinct and that’s why there’s only one sub species of humans on earth and although within our sub species there is a lot of genetic variation, we are still the same sub species. You can’t really compare humans to bears and chimpanzees because even among chimpanzees, because humans are a much more mobile species than other animals and therefore have no been isolated from each other for long enough in order to form sub species. We are constantly migrating and mixing populations among it evolutionarily impossible for us to diverge into separate sub species. Again this isn’t opinion, this is something that has been proven by geneticists and scientists and I showed you those links earlier if you’re interested in learning about it.
I showed before how different populations have differing amounts of these prehistoric populations. Sub saharan Africans having no Neanderthal admixture, but Europeans and Asians do, etc.
I also think many scientists would agree with you in ruling out future divergence within our species. Natural disasters such as solar flares or other events that cause a bottleneck effect, are one possibility.
@comrade1027 yeah some humans do have small trace amounts of Neanderthal DNA but that’s evidence of us mixing with Neanderthals back in the day. It doesn’t change the fact that Neanderthals are still extinct. But yeah I think you’re right too maybe a freak event like a solar flare could cause population divergence but other than that it’s not likely
Some other considerations are designer humans through embryo manipulation, gene splicing, radiation, or even a virus that changes DNA differently for different people. We live in an amazing world full of possibilities.
I don’t have a preference either way tbh I’ve dated within and out of my race and it wasn’t really a huge factor on how well my relationship worked. To me, individual traits are more important than what culture/race/ethnicity the person belongs to.
I don't care at all about race. (So I didn't vote.) I don't get why other people still care, either. ... Unless they're racist idiots. I WILL say, I prefer redheads or blondes as far as hair goes, but that applies to any race or skin tone. As long as they can pull it off, as some women look terrible with red or blonde hair.
The race that I find myself most attracted to are Asians, but I'm not going to take a big ass leap and say I'm going to marry an Asian girl just because of if.
If I theoretically was to ever get married, I'm perfectly fine marrying both within and outside my race.
I'll marry within my own race, because I think and feel that there's a better understanding of everything. We humans are basically genetics, and genetics affects even on the way our brains/minds are structured, so I've always found it easier to share the same spirit and worldview with someone who's similar to me. I also want to expand that shared feeling with children that are of my own race, I love my race and women who share that view too.
Actually being white is not truly a race when it comes to look. I know plenty of arabe and Latinas that literally have a pale skin and blonde hair, but their race is not considered white.
I chose "Marry within", because it's the most likely to happen for me.
in my opinion the overall comfort level is highest within a race. But feelings of physical attraction can be higher for another race.
I am Indian and I find I am mostly physically attracted to white girls of N. European descent, and some mixed with that. But when it comes to connecting emotionally, I sync better with Indian girls.
All that being said, I know a few Indian friends who married white Americans and they are very happy - so it really comes down to the personality of two people and their level of mutual attraction and less about the race itself. It just varies from person to person.
race doesn't matter, but cultural background is important. if u marry someone from the other side of the world, how u live might clash ;( so i might not marry a chinese person, not bc theyre Asian, but because we'd be v different culturally. its not a dealbreaker tho :)
That is very racist for you to assume that. That would require you to believe racism came from only one group of people. South Americans can be quite racist towards Europeans and Africans. the Same With Asians and other parts of the world. Racism is an ideology not a skin color. It is found in every group of people. There are no races, but treating people based on appearance endemic of human sin nature. Even if all shared skin color then people would be ostracized for hair or eye color. Look how individual countries treat each other. People would have to look exactly the same or not care about differences. Graciously there are those now who do not care, but enough do that there is racism.
All I'm saying the idea racism is external is false, it's a product of the mind not the body. As long as there is a difference people will naturally treat others differently. Jesus says to love your neighbor as yourself. That defies the natural. We don't all have to be the same, just respect our differences. Different people marry each other all the time, ethnicity truly is an arbitrary difference. The only thing that truly separates people are choices. Who you choose to serve. Most serve evil through their own will. Jesus is the only Good choice. However the biggest lie of this world is that there are more than two ultimate choices.
@Gravit1 ok like I said I don't know much about it but if everyone kept marrying interracial within some generations it would be gone I think... ... uhm the god and jesus stuff I'll just leave up to you... like I said I'm educated and fairly intelligent... peace...
If people actually treated people as themselves there would be no thefts, racism, murders, or any other evil, because after all who would treat themselves that way?
Diversity is a beautiful thing. If people all share the same skin color then people would separate off eye or hair color. If those matched then it would be facial features. The ideology of racism would still be with us. It sounds nice, but people do not need to look the same to end racism, they need an internal change of beliefs. It is the ideology that needs to change. Racism is a state of mind not skin color.
I have no interest in crossing ethnic boundaries : there are more than enough intelligent and beautiful women available within my own genetic pool.
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This might sound weird, but I'm okay with my own race, and men outside the race.. to an extent. I'm cool with the Mexicans, native Americans, however when it comes to Indians or Muslims it kinda depends, I like their looks but something about their accents I don't particularly like. And black men I SEE as attractive but something about the FEEL of their skin I just don't like, like I've met plenty of black men I would love to bed but then the texture just bothers me too much...
It ain't weird. Even I prefer only white girls. You should try talking to a few Indians who've been taught the British accent. I speak with no rhoticity.
I'm a black woman. I don't really care about race in dating. What matters to me is our general compatibility. Are we physically attracted to each other? Do we generally get along outside of romantic feels (a. k. a do we have a genuine friendship)? Do we share the same principles? Does he value integrity, legacy, and building a family? Does he want to retire early like I want to? Is he financially stable? Things like that.
It seems those principles are more reminiscent of Caucasian men but many people also look for things like cultural values, favorite foods, speech mannerisms, etc which typically are in their own race. Anyways, it's good to see people working on and looking for such values like integrity, family, and financial security.
Madhatter920 | 795 opinions shared on Dating topic.
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As long as we're a good match, it doesn't matter to me at all. Either way.
Yes but just for the SJW points and ability to virtue signal.
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I'm black. But since I have a hair fetish (hairjob etc) I prefer women that have straight hair. Sadly, black women don't have natural straight hair. And after putting so much chemicals for the hair to look straight, they won't allow a guy anywhere near it.
So now you know why I avoid black women.
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I don't believe in races, but there are ethnicities. I love black hair and prefer little make up. For this reason I like Asian and Middle Eastern women a lot. I could marry any ethnicity of women as I've been attracted to them all. I only require that she be Christian. My siblings married Hispanics, but they think I'll marry a Korean. My ancestry is northern European.
Uh. It doesn’t matter as long as they’re human. I honestly don’t care about their skin color. It just so happens to be that my boyfriend is white, and I’m white.
How could you forget three tits like Jelva, the alien queen of varvak.
supercutebutt | 136 opinions shared on Dating topic.
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Outside. We have to mix everyone up so there is only one race. Humans are idiots and have hatred for people they see as "the other." If we just have the human race, we *might* have a chance. :)
I think that absent racial differences there will still be tribal groups determined by other criteria. Historically this has been so. In Europe, Catholics and Protestants even in the same countries have fought centuries of bloody wars. Wealth, intelligence, political beliefs, country of origin.
We see from history that conflict emerges continually along all such lines. This is because there are finite resources including sexual/mating/marriages. Anytime there is a competition for these resources, the power struggle continues. Look at the pecking order among women and calling each other fat or anorexic, whores and prudes etc. Evolutionary psychology is quite interesting.
My parents would hope so, but it depends on me. Culture can be a problem, but normally, if we love each others. I can believe we can continue without problem and with respect.
I’ve never dated people from my own culture. I have dated my own race though. I’m not too picky. I find myself attracted to a multitude of different races of men.
I would marry outside, you would get to learn a lot about different culture than the same you follow everytime. Something different would be always fun
I actually got two thumbs down for stating "wouldn't care" which is absolutely 100% true. Fuck people, they are such assholes. I don't know what to think anymore, I hope 'humanity' is wiped out, people don't deserve to live... shallow stupid creatures.
It doesn't matter what races, if u love someone. But I like the most latina and ebony women :33
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I don't think it matters a lot, but having said that, I find that I am not attracted to Black women although I like them a great deal as friends and co-workers.
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Anonymous4 dIt’s not about race to me, it’s about values. Most people probably find similar values within their own race but it’s obviously not always the case.0|00|1Is this still revelant?
Anonymous5 dI chose "Marry within", because it's the most likely to happen for me.
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