Okay. So imagine you are the only one who works and brings in money. Do yo want to be the one to Also do the cooking, cleaningnand looking after the kids why your partner does literally nothing? Probably not, right?
@Agagagagaga Respectfully, I do think you're exaggerating a bit and assuming a woman who wants a partner with a job is being a gold digger or looking for a man to leech off of. I understand coming to conclusions like that, especially considering how so many modern women are parasitic to men, but I don't think she's being a gold digger or spoiled in this case. But saying if the guy doesn't have a job or is only bringing in 5-10% of the income, he has to put in more work around the house as well, typically like men would expect a woman to do.
You can call a person a “parasite” any time your income differs to the extent that one person desires something that the other cannot satisfy. It has absolutely nothing to do with having a job or how hard one works at that job.
@Agagagagaga Yeah, but she NEVER said it DID have to do with their job or work ethic. You're assuming that about her. There are absolutely some men, and women, out there, who work a dead-end job, live with their parents, and are lazy, and just expect everyone else to support them, like adult children. This doesn't mean that all, or even most people who earn less money, are like that.
Not to offend, but it sounds like you're taking this personally. Like you work at an Amazon warehouse and are ashamed of it, or something. I know sometimes people piss me off on GAG too (height related stuff and how some women say 'short men are inferior'), which is why I have to ask about it. If so, I'd ask you to step back and relax, cause I know what it's like to get a little triggered like that and see personal slights in things that people never really said or mentioned.
No I don’t work at an Amazon warehouse 😆 I just think it’s bullshit how many women act like they want a man with a job and if he doesn’t have one he’s a parasite. No you want someone who makes as much money as you or more. Just fucking admit it. 🤷♂️
@Agagagagaga Well, like I said, that's probably the majority of women, but she didn't say she wanted that, so I can't assume she fits "the norm" (assuming it is the norm) or not.
Since she brought up wanting someone who at least takes care of the house more, if she is earning more money, working more hours, and paying more of the bills, I have to assume she's either telling the truth and just doesn't want a lazy leech, or flat-out lying. She *could* be lying, but most women would rather just admit they want a rich guy and to be a lazy housewife, than do such mental gymnastics as that.
And in 2022, I think MOST people who don't have a job that aren't housewives, would be seen as parasites; men or women. The economy is rough out there...
Couple things. Are you saying she makes 80k annually? That's not a lot of money. As far as dating goes, most guys dont really care about a womens money because they're not going to have it spent on them. Women however can't be w/ a guy that earns less at least not for any significant period of time.
@mcheetah Those are baseless personal assumptions. I'm simply stating a fact. The median earning for full time men over 15 is approximately 60K so someone making 80K annually is in essentially the same bracket as you.
No, it's not. Also, your opinion of what wealthy or not starts is not a "fact." The median American wage is $34,000 a year, and the median household makes $64,000 a year. And the median HOUSEHOLD income (two full time working adults; usually a mom and dad) still only makes $63,000 to $67,000 a year.
The median refers to what most American makes, not the "average," because that would take the lowest and highest earners and split them down the middle, and the richer people make so much more money (roughly, $90,000 for most upper middle class people), that it doesn't reflect what most Americans make. And even the "average wage" (which most people do not make) would still be $51,000.
So most Americans make $34,000 a year. Most American households make $63,000 a year.
I make $36,000 a year in Korean won, as an ESL teacher here in Korea. And my friend makes $80,000 a year in Korean won (115.2 million won), by herself. More than twice as much as me.
Where are you even getting your numbers from? Cause you're just wrong.
@mcheetah Now I see why your confused a lot of people make this mistake so dont feel bad. That median number that you are referring to is a reflection of all workers across the board. As I stated previously the median income for Men in the US that hold "full time jobs" is approximately 61K a year according to the burea the US census bureau, as well as the bureau of Labor. Sounds like what you're asking is will a woman who makes money date you despite you being poor? The answer is probably not for any significant length of time.
I HATE it when I give objective proof and evidence for something and instead of just saying, "I was wrong, sorry," they double down with the stupidity. It's the sign of a narcissist.
MOST PEOPLE in the US, let alone most of the world, do not make $60,000 or more. Hard stop. I gave fucking sources for my info.
I'm not talking about "the median income for full time working men in the US" or men in general, so what the fuck does that have to do with anything? Stop trying to bring up "men" when the woman in question is a Korean female, not that that makes you any more correct. It's still wrong.
$60,000 a year would be the same as making $29 an hour. What seriously makes you think the "average American man" is earning around $29 an hour, when the average American doesn't even have a month's worth of savings in the bank and lives paycheck to paycheck?
And how would the "average American man" be making $60,000 a year when the household income is also $63,000 to $67,000 a year? Are you assuming most US households have a wife that only brings $3,000-$7,000 a year, or just ignoring that fact, as well?
"Sounds like what you're asking is will a woman who makes money date you despite you being poor?"
No, I'm not, so fuck off with the smug assumptions, dude. I'm more than comfortable with what I make in a year considering on some days, I only work two hours a day and I love my job. But I can tell your small-dick energy must measure your self-worth by your income, for you to even throw that at me.
And stop trying to act smug, when you're objectively WRONG. Just take the fucking L already and admit you were incorrect. Jesus fucking Christ...
You a random user on a website, so I have no problem just throwing this answer out completely. I don't come on GAG to listen to smug, pretentious bullshit like this.
@mcheetah I can certainly understand you're frustration, however you're either knowingly or ignorantly ignoring a big part of the equation. I provided you w/ median income of all full time working men. This is in direct response to your original question. Whether you want to use that metric is irrelevant, it doesn't change the fact that that is the number. Also what a person saves and what they bring in are two completely different things. I'm simply responding to your question based on the information you provided the fact that you dont like it is you're own problem. I can certainly understand you're frustration, and I hope for your sake I'm wrong, because it sounds like you desperately need this girl, but unfortunately women dont typically stay w/ guys that make significantly less than them. Hope this helps
That's the average of ALL workers, not what most Americans make. This is for EVERY single person who works, including the upper class and wealthy. I already stated the "average" salary is going to be higher than the middle-class salary because the rich make several times more than what middle class workers make. At least three times more.
In other words, $61,000 a year is NOT a middle-class individual salary. It's the statistical average of all (male) workers, like I already said. Most men do not make this salary, also like I already said. It's just the middle point between the poorest workers and the largest number of wealthy workers.
They also state women make 82% of what men make, which means the household income can't be in the $60K range unless most Americans have only one working adult, the father, which isn't the case anymore and probably hasn't been since the 90s. Both parents usually work in two-parent households in the 2020s. Since women make 82% of what men make, the household income's combined total would have to be $111,000, which makes no sense. Most American households with a working husband and wife are not bringing in $111,000 a year.
@mcheetah You're confusion is obvious. You're making an argument based on something I never said. I specifically stayed this number was reflective of "Men who work full time". The rest of the numbers you provide have no relevance. I gave you that number to provide a reference point to your original question. Meaning that if a woman is making 80K a year that is not enough of a discrepancy for her to eliminate you as a potential suitor. A person who males 80K and 60K live basically the same lifestyle. However in your specific case if she makes 80K and you make less than half, then yes she is probably going to notice and not f w/ you. Sounds like you're caught up in a completely irrelevant aspect of your own question vs the straight answer that was provided.
I NEVER SAID I was trying to date her, fuck her, or anything else. The question has NOTHING TO DO with me. I even said "she's just a friend" and I don't care about how much money she makes, cause I'm not trying to date/fuck her. It was just the inspiration of the question!
Honestly I will not let that happen, I'm from a area where the man always pays for everything and was the money maker. If the girl that i dated made more money in the beginning, I would immediately look for a way to make more money than her. Period.
A women who earned more money than you will tend to control everything in the relationship. Especially when she oversees most the financial wellbeing of yhd the relationship
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That's Okay, but he has to pull his weight. I hate parasytes.
What the hell does that even mean?
“Hey babe, you all ready for our ski trip to Austria? I can’t wait to go back. Maybe we can swing by Switzerland while we’re there and visit Zurich.”
“I work at Amazon loading boxes. I don’t think I’m gonna be able to afford it. Sorry.”
“Parasite.”
Okay. So imagine you are the only one who works and brings in money. Do yo want to be the one to Also do the cooking, cleaningnand looking after the kids why your partner does literally nothing?
Probably not, right?
Hey both people are working. Or is loading boxes at Amazon not good enough for you?
Look, I can tell you haven’t really thought this out. Good day.
@Agagagagaga I'm not talking about Amazon or whatever. I just don't want someone to live with me and not do shit.
@Agagagagaga
Respectfully, I do think you're exaggerating a bit and assuming a woman who wants a partner with a job is being a gold digger or looking for a man to leech off of. I understand coming to conclusions like that, especially considering how so many modern women are parasitic to men, but I don't think she's being a gold digger or spoiled in this case. But saying if the guy doesn't have a job or is only bringing in 5-10% of the income, he has to put in more work around the house as well, typically like men would expect a woman to do.
You can call a person a “parasite” any time your income differs to the extent that one person desires something that the other cannot satisfy. It has absolutely nothing to do with having a job or how hard one works at that job.
@Agagagagaga
Yeah, but she NEVER said it DID have to do with their job or work ethic. You're assuming that about her. There are absolutely some men, and women, out there, who work a dead-end job, live with their parents, and are lazy, and just expect everyone else to support them, like adult children. This doesn't mean that all, or even most people who earn less money, are like that.
Not to offend, but it sounds like you're taking this personally. Like you work at an Amazon warehouse and are ashamed of it, or something. I know sometimes people piss me off on GAG too (height related stuff and how some women say 'short men are inferior'), which is why I have to ask about it. If so, I'd ask you to step back and relax, cause I know what it's like to get a little triggered like that and see personal slights in things that people never really said or mentioned.
No I don’t work at an Amazon warehouse 😆 I just think it’s bullshit how many women act like they want a man with a job and if he doesn’t have one he’s a parasite. No you want someone who makes as much money as you or more. Just fucking admit it. 🤷♂️
@Agagagagaga
Well, like I said, that's probably the majority of women, but she didn't say she wanted that, so I can't assume she fits "the norm" (assuming it is the norm) or not.
Since she brought up wanting someone who at least takes care of the house more, if she is earning more money, working more hours, and paying more of the bills, I have to assume she's either telling the truth and just doesn't want a lazy leech, or flat-out lying. She *could* be lying, but most women would rather just admit they want a rich guy and to be a lazy housewife, than do such mental gymnastics as that.
And in 2022, I think MOST people who don't have a job that aren't housewives, would be seen as parasites; men or women. The economy is rough out there...
Couple things. Are you saying she makes 80k annually? That's not a lot of money. As far as dating goes, most guys dont really care about a womens money because they're not going to have it spent on them. Women however can't be w/ a guy that earns less at least not for any significant period of time.
$80K annually isn't a lot o rich people (like you're implying you are), but for a small company manager at 29, I consider that a lot.
@mcheetah Those are baseless personal assumptions. I'm simply stating a fact. The median earning for full time men over 15 is approximately 60K so someone making 80K annually is in essentially the same bracket as you.
No, it's not. Also, your opinion of what wealthy or not starts is not a "fact." The median American wage is $34,000 a year, and the median household makes $64,000 a year. And the median HOUSEHOLD income (two full time working adults; usually a mom and dad) still only makes $63,000 to $67,000 a year.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N
policyadvice.net/.../
en.wikipedia.org/.../Household_income_in_the_United_States
The median refers to what most American makes, not the "average," because that would take the lowest and highest earners and split them down the middle, and the richer people make so much more money (roughly, $90,000 for most upper middle class people), that it doesn't reflect what most Americans make. And even the "average wage" (which most people do not make) would still be $51,000.
So most Americans make $34,000 a year. Most American households make $63,000 a year.
I make $36,000 a year in Korean won, as an ESL teacher here in Korea. And my friend makes $80,000 a year in Korean won (115.2 million won), by herself. More than twice as much as me.
Where are you even getting your numbers from? Cause you're just wrong.
@mcheetah Now I see why your confused a lot of people make this mistake so dont feel bad. That median number that you are referring to is a reflection of all workers across the board. As I stated previously the median income for Men in the US that hold "full time jobs" is approximately 61K a year according to the burea the US census bureau, as well as the bureau of Labor. Sounds like what you're asking is will a woman who makes money date you despite you being poor? The answer is probably not for any significant length of time.
Ugh... Dude...
I HATE it when I give objective proof and evidence for something and instead of just saying, "I was wrong, sorry," they double down with the stupidity. It's the sign of a narcissist.
MOST PEOPLE in the US, let alone most of the world, do not make $60,000 or more. Hard stop. I gave fucking sources for my info.
I'm not talking about "the median income for full time working men in the US" or men in general, so what the fuck does that have to do with anything? Stop trying to bring up "men" when the woman in question is a Korean female, not that that makes you any more correct. It's still wrong.
$60,000 a year would be the same as making $29 an hour. What seriously makes you think the "average American man" is earning around $29 an hour, when the average American doesn't even have a month's worth of savings in the bank and lives paycheck to paycheck?
And how would the "average American man" be making $60,000 a year when the household income is also $63,000 to $67,000 a year? Are you assuming most US households have a wife that only brings $3,000-$7,000 a year, or just ignoring that fact, as well?
"Sounds like what you're asking is will a woman who makes money date you despite you being poor?"
No, I'm not, so fuck off with the smug assumptions, dude. I'm more than comfortable with what I make in a year considering on some days, I only work two hours a day and I love my job. But I can tell your small-dick energy must measure your self-worth by your income, for you to even throw that at me.
And stop trying to act smug, when you're objectively WRONG. Just take the fucking L already and admit you were incorrect. Jesus fucking Christ...
You a random user on a website, so I have no problem just throwing this answer out completely. I don't come on GAG to listen to smug, pretentious bullshit like this.
@mcheetah I can certainly understand you're frustration, however you're either knowingly or ignorantly ignoring a big part of the equation. I provided you w/ median income of all full time working men. This is in direct response to your original question. Whether you want to use that metric is irrelevant, it doesn't change the fact that that is the number. Also what a person saves and what they bring in are two completely different things. I'm simply responding to your question based on the information you provided the fact that you dont like it is you're own problem. I can certainly understand you're frustration, and I hope for your sake I'm wrong, because it sounds like you desperately need this girl, but unfortunately women dont typically stay w/ guys that make significantly less than them. Hope this helps
You're referring to this, which I already addressed in the second message I sent to you.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/.../Personal_income_in_the_United_States
That's the average of ALL workers, not what most Americans make. This is for EVERY single person who works, including the upper class and wealthy. I already stated the "average" salary is going to be higher than the middle-class salary because the rich make several times more than what middle class workers make. At least three times more.
In other words, $61,000 a year is NOT a middle-class individual salary. It's the statistical average of all (male) workers, like I already said. Most men do not make this salary, also like I already said. It's just the middle point between the poorest workers and the largest number of wealthy workers.
They also state women make 82% of what men make, which means the household income can't be in the $60K range unless most Americans have only one working adult, the father, which isn't the case anymore and probably hasn't been since the 90s. Both parents usually work in two-parent households in the 2020s. Since women make 82% of what men make, the household income's combined total would have to be $111,000, which makes no sense. Most American households with a working husband and wife are not bringing in $111,000 a year.
I'm done with this BS now.
@mcheetah You're confusion is obvious. You're making an argument based on something I never said. I specifically stayed this number was reflective of "Men who work full time". The rest of the numbers you provide have no relevance. I gave you that number to provide a reference point to your original question. Meaning that if a woman is making 80K a year that is not enough of a discrepancy for her to eliminate you as a potential suitor. A person who males 80K and 60K live basically the same lifestyle. However in your specific case if she makes 80K and you make less than half, then yes she is probably going to notice and not f w/ you. Sounds like you're caught up in a completely irrelevant aspect of your own question vs the straight answer that was provided.
I NEVER SAID I was trying to date her, fuck her, or anything else. The question has NOTHING TO DO with me. I even said "she's just a friend" and I don't care about how much money she makes, cause I'm not trying to date/fuck her. It was just the inspiration of the question!
@mcheetah And I provided you w/ an answer. Whether you are mature enough to handle it is completely up to you.
I can’t imagine why that would be a problem.
Honestly I will not let that happen, I'm from a area where the man always pays for everything and was the money maker. If the girl that i dated made more money in the beginning, I would immediately look for a way to make more money than her. Period.
Depends only if she doesn’t have an entitled college education attitude
Lol of course they don’t mind. It means you could pay for them too
That'll probably never be me, so sure, why not?
A women who earned more money than you will tend to control everything in the relationship. Especially when she oversees most the financial wellbeing of yhd the relationship
I never understood too well the concept of money, so yes for sure.
I don't really care about money
I would be fine with dating her.
I have no issue.
No, she would deserve better than me.
I've done this. No big deal.
Yes.
At least one of us is doing well
Yeah