Why do women always expect the guy to make the first move and lead the relationship? (Page 2)
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I think a girl would love to have a guy that is a bit submissive because you dont pose a threat if you will. Unlike guys who are dominant, gross and creepy.
Well i hope you're right.
It used to be something about being a "lady" and "the gentleman will take the first step".
But all of that went out the window with the generation of "feminism" and "women should be able to do anything a man can do".
So nowadays it's cuz they're lazy and then they can be picky. And they have the upper hand if the guy is chasing them. Mindgames.
I was painfully shy with girls when I was younger. I missed out on a couple of opportunities that might have turned out really well. One day I just decided I was not going to miss out anymore. I actually got up the nerve to ask a girl if she liked me. It was really scary and I really didn;t know how it would turn out. It sort of got easier after that.
Because trepidation seeps into the minds of women. They act like they can create this world and have leadership but can't even do something easy like ask a guy out.
Exactly, they are basically children we must take care of and protect.
Seeing comments like "women make the first moves too, by looking at them"
Not exactly a move lol
Precisely
You would think that, but I am shy and got a girlfriend. Try to become more confident by giving compliments to other people every day. That makes people like you a lot more because being with you makes thrm feel good. Then you'll eventually feel confident enough to ask a girl out. It won't be quick, but it will eventually happen. I started my complimenting at 21 and got a girlfriend at 27.
Women have simultaneously the biggest and most fragile ego's. They need CONSTANT validation. But you CAN'T criticize them at all. What women don't get is more men would make the first move if so many of them didn't interact with guys just for the validation. Women complain that guys don't make effort. But guys know that 90% of the time when a woman is showing interest. It's leading nowhere. It's for her to get a temporary emotional lift. Then she moves on, probably to the next guy.
Because they're scared. Scared that their reputation might be tarnished. Scared of being rejected. Scared of leading. A guy that approaches is somewhat confident. Confident guys make girls feel safe. Girls crave safety.
the phrase "just be yourself" has always been a deliberate cliche misdirection.
That’s our job. We don’t always have to be making decisions but girls wait for a guy to show interest first. Why don’t you want to lead?
i'm shy and nervous around girls
I used to be also
What did you do to overcome it?
I took risks and worked on myself to become more outgoing.
I was shy once but back in the day we would dare each other to hit on girls or like tap a girl on the shoulder and then pretend our friend did it. Eventually it goes away.
You can be shy my friend. But you also need to have a backbone.
Don't be afraid to make the first move. Use online apps to make it easier.
because we like being treated. for what it's worth *I* was the one who made the first move anyways.
Don't be a beta man, more and more women are turning gay, and the human race's birth rate is becoming zero. We don't have time for you to wait around for a girl to some how be so attracted to you she makes the first move. It isn't gonna happen. You wanna be stuck having to use your hair till you die alone?
I bet you get all the girls huh? How many kids do you have to combat that birth rate problem hm?
@suzzieQ he sounds like an asshole, there's nothing wrong with a woman being a little more assertive with a shy man, not all men are the same, guys like me need some help from the lady.
No I sound right, truth hurts. I'd you wanna spend Friday night with your hand that's your issue. But no women wants a pussy they already have one of those.
But i didn't choose to be born like this, timid and sensitive.
Well, you need to over come. If what you were doing was working than you wouldn't be asking this question. You need to go out there and insert yourself into a woman life forcefully
Forcefully?
Yup, insert yourself into her life.
Cause women prefer leaving the shitty jobs to the guys XD
Because that is what old school people tell them that is how they are supposed to do it.
But it's wrong and outdated.
Because it's just natural. Break out of your shell and experience 80% fail! The other 20 is completely worth it :)
Because its natural. We men are suppose to be the leaders of our relationship and woman.
That’s dumb, relationships are supposed to be a partnership, not a patriarchy
@suzzieQ exactly, and a woman is not less of a woman just for being assertive.
Because real men go after what they want. It's not our fault that you're weak and feminine. Man up
Yep..
No woman wants a weak man.
Maybe a woman like you needs to understand how to not be a bitch and understand how compassion works. 🤷♂️
@snowboarder you're unattractive and don't make enough bye. Lose weight
@ZenJen444 I’ll be doing that, thanks 😊
Women sometimes find a way
They say life finds a way, maybe some girl will find a way to get me in bed with her.