It is guaranteed. You can always improve. You don't necessarily need a new job to earn more money. That is the very reason most people girls and guys only earn about 35k per year. They see only one way.
well since i’ll be making around $120k a year i’ll be in their circles which is usually how partnerships work in high paying field. lawyers tend to date lawyers. and doctors tend to date doctors because they understand each other’s careers. and are in the same social fields a light of the time. other than that, i’m very loyal, honest, beautiful, caring, submissive (assuming the man is worthy of my submissive in the first place) and supportive. i have traditional characteristics and skills such as housekeeping and cooking capabilities. and my life goal is to be a mother so if he wants a woman who values children i’m her. but honestly i don’t even typically answer this question because majority of men aren’t worth that. they’ll ask what a woman brings to the table while they bring barely anything at all. so what i bring to the table doesn’t matter if a man can’t bring anything else to the table but his money.
but regardless of all that, as i mentioned my life goal is being a mom. im like 100% so content and so happy with how my life goes as long as i can be a mother. i can adopt or go to a fertility clinic and get a sperm donor and the best is i don’t need to be in a relationship to do that! so if i’m alone with beautiful babies in a great economic and social position because i’m making a minimum of $120k a year i’d be living the dream. kids are what matter to me. and even if i were in a relationship once i have kids they would be my #1 priority and my husband would always come after them.
No you're fine lol. The first note I'd make is that men actually don't care about how much women make. All that other stuff is good though. I guess I'm confused how you intend to be a mom and have a full time career?
the first note doesn’t really take away from what i said. i never said that men care about it, i just said that people in high paying field tend to date and marry each other. that’s just facts. i’m going into the medical field. the chances of me marrying someone in the medical field is high.
what do you mean how do i tend to be a mom and have a career? i don’t understand this question.
my career works around 40-45 hours a week majority of the year so no different than a normal career. are we talking about if i’m in a relationship and i’m a mom or a single mother?
it would be no different than majority of the mothers in the US who not only work because their male partners aren’t sole providers, and who also do majority of the child rearing because men don’t usually do it because it’s too much of a feminine role for them. so this is why the question is a bit funny to me.
As for the other point it doesn't make sense to me because if the guy wanted a feminine home maker woman logically you wouldn't choose a career woman because she'd be too busy to raise kids or build a home.
i just told you my career doesn’t work 70 hours a week. on top of that i don’t do traditional relationships. you’re assuming every guy wants a traditional relationships when in the modern economy, that’s not a possibility.
You're right, I meant to say 45 hours but said 70 again, apologies. 45 hours a week isn't much time with your children either though. And you are right about dating averages, typically women date men who make as much or more than them. What I'm saying is if you are both involved in a high stress and time consuming career how will you make time for children and building a home? I mean you could higher a nanny and a housemaid but you aren't a homemaker anymore if you do that.
most Americans work around 45 hours a week or more at the less than $40k jobs so how are they taking care of their kids? that answers your question.
i’ll do what other people in the medical field do or what my parents did for me which was so perfect for my development and growth. during my work shift my children will probably be monitored by my parents, their grandparents. that’s what happened for me and it was an amazing experience as i got to grow closer to my grandmother and her caretaker, some of the most amazing people i’ve ever known. i learned so much from them. after work my husband and i would watch our kids and perform domestic duties. on our days off we’ll watch our kids and take them places and teach them things. once they hit preschool age they’ll go to preschool and from there they’ll start the cycle of school which we all know how that works.
my homemaker duties will be done on my days off and because i don’t do traditional relationships, my husband will also perform those same duties on the days he’s off of we’ll switch off to keep things fair :) at that point in my life my kids will be my hobby and fun and that will make me happy. of course my husband and i will still go on dates and such so there’s that too.
definitely! it’s easy to not be a traditional woman when most men aren’t traditional men and dont act as such. you wouldn’t believe how many men are working in low paying jobs but asking for submission from their partners who are also working. it’s extremely laughable haha.
You said you would be submissive to him and he needs to make the same or more money than you. That's a traditional man. All a traditional man is is a man who leads the household.
i would be submissive to him because i respect the male position in a relationship. if he is doing his duty of being a good male partner then i’ll be submissive to him. the level of that submission is dependent of how much of a dominant role he plays in the relationship which often changes throughout the relationship since things happen.
also can you point out where i said he needs to make the same or more money than me? cause i read through and i can’t find where i said that.
i would even this conversation too if i were you. people tend to do that when they don’t have anything of value to say or they have no argument. good luck to you too!
i also suggest you read up on what a traditional man is. you can’t be a traditional man if you make the same amount of money as the woman lol. i suggest reading an encyclopedia on traditional relationships!
You mentioned doctors dating doctors, I assumed you were talking about that because then make the same money bracket. Or is it less about money to you and more important that they are career driven?
no i mentioned that because people in high paying fields tend to date each other. i never said that he had to be in the same money bracket but 40k isn’t enough especially if i’m making 120k. for me being career driven is important. it is one of the mandatory traits i need in a partner. so he doesn’t have to make as much as me. i don’t mind being the breadwinner. 40k is just way below my financial caliber to the point where it’s a bit insulting honestly.
Women date across and up economicly, men date across and down. So men will marry women who are broke but it's rare to see the reverse. I don't know about doctors specifically but ruch men don't care how much their women make, we agreed on that earlier.
in this economy it’s not rare because as of February 2021 in the US, 50% of women in a two partner household make the same or more than their partner.
i want to reiterate again that the only reason i mentioned doctors and lawyers is because people in high paying careers tend to date each other. this is even seen with actors and musicians. because you’re in the same social circles, you tend to have more access to each other. that’s just the way it works.
not if he’s making $40k for the rest of his life. being career driven means that you’re hustling to get to the top and constantly improving. you’re not career driven if your income never increases.
people who are career drive are constantly trying to level up in their career. that’s the type of career driven i’m talking about. the one who is looking for raises. the one who applies to a higher paying job every couple years. that type of person.
and i’m only saying that because that’s what i grew up around. my parents didn’t even graduate high school and worked from the bottom up to high paying careers. they just bought a half a million dollar house in my home state california and they did that through hard work. i can’t grow up seeing that and not want that in a partner. i’m also the first in my family to go to college, i currently work two job while taking way too many classes, and i’m about to graduate soon into a six figure career. i worked hard to be where i am so i need someone who will have that same mentality.
i’ve worked too hard and put too much work to be where i am to marry a man making $40k a year for the rest of his life. if someone were to happen to me my babies would be in poverty with an income like that. absolutely not.
to me it is. we obviously have different definition of career driven and that’s fine. as stated i think the way i do because of my background and seeing my parents hustle to always move up in life. i can’t be with a man who won’t do the same.
I just have one question then. If you were with a man making as much as you want then when you're 30 something happens and he's now only making 30k a year, would you leave him?
not immediately. things happen and hard times hit. i’m completely understanding of that. as long as he’s hustling to move up the ladder, even if it’s gradually, i’d stay with him. the divorce comes when he’s lazy and complacent and not trying to do better in life. and i’ll be making my partner sign a prenup so it would be a very smooth divorce as they won’t be getting a dime out of me :)
think like what? also would love for you to revert to my earlier comment where i said that being a mother is all that matters to me so “dying alone” is perfectly fine as long as i have my babies.
you can take your apology back as i don’t need it. dying alone is your nightmare not mine.
It depends on the state. There are some states where the median household income is 40k, so a single person who is making the same income as the average whole household for that state would be making quite a lot.
Both Mississippi and West Virginia have a household income Midian of between 40 and 50k. So no it's not exactly 40k, but it is within the 40K range for a household.
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Yeah, I make enough on my own to support a family. I didn’t marry his wallet I married him
Curious how you can up with that number since the median yearly income for men in the notes states is about 50k a year
That’s a normal amount and I’d don’t date for money.
40k is more than enough for him to cover his 1/2 of bills so no issue there.
Hun, I am worth more than that.
I would kick his deadbeat ass to the curb!
I don't care how much money they make as long as they can look after themselves etc
Depends? If he's a spend thrift or miser, he can kiss me goodbye!
When I met my husband he was unemployed, but anyone can improve their situation in life.
It's not garenteed though you obviously know that. Would you have stayed with him if he only made less than 40k?
It is guaranteed. You can always improve. You don't necessarily need a new job to earn more money.
That is the very reason most people girls and guys only earn about 35k per year. They see only one way.
Money is not everything main thing is love.
for his whole life? nope
Thank you for being honest. What do you bring to the table to attract the 5 percentage of men who make more?
well since i’ll be making around $120k a year i’ll be in their circles which is usually how partnerships work in high paying field. lawyers tend to date lawyers. and doctors tend to date doctors because they understand each other’s careers. and are in the same social fields a light of the time. other than that, i’m very loyal, honest, beautiful, caring, submissive (assuming the man is worthy of my submissive in the first place) and supportive. i have traditional characteristics and skills such as housekeeping and cooking capabilities. and my life goal is to be a mother so if he wants a woman who values children i’m her. but honestly i don’t even typically answer this question because majority of men aren’t worth that. they’ll ask what a woman brings to the table while they bring barely anything at all. so what i bring to the table doesn’t matter if a man can’t bring anything else to the table but his money.
but regardless of all that, as i mentioned my life goal is being a mom. im like 100% so content and so happy with how my life goes as long as i can be a mother. i can adopt or go to a fertility clinic and get a sperm donor and the best is i don’t need to be in a relationship to do that! so if i’m alone with beautiful babies in a great economic and social position because i’m making a minimum of $120k a year i’d be living the dream. kids are what matter to me. and even if i were in a relationship once i have kids they would be my #1 priority and my husband would always come after them.
sorry for the typos. it’s late where i’m at lol.
No you're fine lol. The first note I'd make is that men actually don't care about how much women make. All that other stuff is good though. I guess I'm confused how you intend to be a mom and have a full time career?
the first note doesn’t really take away from what i said. i never said that men care about it, i just said that people in high paying field tend to date and marry each other. that’s just facts. i’m going into the medical field. the chances of me marrying someone in the medical field is high.
what do you mean how do i tend to be a mom and have a career? i don’t understand this question.
Careers in general cost you a lot of your time, how are you going to be a mom when you're working 70 hours a week?
my career works around 40-45 hours a week majority of the year so no different than a normal career. are we talking about if i’m in a relationship and i’m a mom or a single mother?
it would be no different than majority of the mothers in the US who not only work because their male partners aren’t sole providers, and who also do majority of the child rearing because men don’t usually do it because it’s too much of a feminine role for them. so this is why the question is a bit funny to me.
So you think you'll have time to be a mother working 70 hours a week?
As for the other point it doesn't make sense to me because if the guy wanted a feminine home maker woman logically you wouldn't choose a career woman because she'd be too busy to raise kids or build a home.
i just told you my career doesn’t work 70 hours a week. on top of that i don’t do traditional relationships. you’re assuming every guy wants a traditional relationships when in the modern economy, that’s not a possibility.
i’ve said numerous times that doctors tend to date doctors and they both usually work. so that pretty much mutes your “homemaker” point.
You're right, I meant to say 45 hours but said 70 again, apologies. 45 hours a week isn't much time with your children either though. And you are right about dating averages, typically women date men who make as much or more than them. What I'm saying is if you are both involved in a high stress and time consuming career how will you make time for children and building a home? I mean you could higher a nanny and a housemaid but you aren't a homemaker anymore if you do that.
I mean I guess you can do it if you kill your hobbies and fun actually. But that seems kinda rough.
most Americans work around 45 hours a week or more at the less than $40k jobs so how are they taking care of their kids? that answers your question.
i’ll do what other people in the medical field do or what my parents did for me which was so perfect for my development and growth. during my work shift my children will probably be monitored by my parents, their grandparents. that’s what happened for me and it was an amazing experience as i got to grow closer to my grandmother and her caretaker, some of the most amazing people i’ve ever known. i learned so much from them. after work my husband and i would watch our kids and perform domestic duties. on our days off we’ll watch our kids and take them places and teach them things. once they hit preschool age they’ll go to preschool and from there they’ll start the cycle of school which we all know how that works.
my homemaker duties will be done on my days off and because i don’t do traditional relationships, my husband will also perform those same duties on the days he’s off of we’ll switch off to
keep things fair :) at that point in my life my kids will be my hobby and fun and that will make me happy. of course my husband and i will still go on dates and such so there’s that too.
At least you're honest about not being a traditional woman. I'm Glad you know that.
I still don't see how you'll make time for all that but okay. I wish you luck.
definitely! it’s easy to not be a traditional woman when most men aren’t traditional men and dont act as such. you wouldn’t believe how many men are working in low paying jobs but asking for submission from their partners who are also working. it’s extremely laughable haha.
Well it sounds like you're asking for a traditional man.
if you’re working a low paying job you’ll understand when you have children :)
So that's odd
nope i’m not asking for a traditional man at all. i avoid traditional men. not sure what gave you that idea.
You said you would be submissive to him and he needs to make the same or more money than you. That's a traditional man. All a traditional man is is a man who leads the household.
Nevermind. You seem to have thought about it a lot so I'm sure you're fine. Good luck with that.
i would be submissive to him because i respect the male position in a relationship. if he is doing his duty of being a good male partner then i’ll be submissive to him. the level of that submission is dependent of how much of a dominant role he plays in the relationship which often changes throughout the relationship since things happen.
also can you point out where i said he needs to make the same or more money than me? cause i read through and i can’t find where i said that.
i would even this conversation too if i were you. people tend to do that when they don’t have anything of value to say or they have no argument. good luck to you too!
i also suggest you read up on what a traditional man is. you can’t be a traditional
man if you make the same amount of money as the woman lol. i suggest reading an encyclopedia on traditional relationships!
You mentioned doctors dating doctors, I assumed you were talking about that because then make the same money bracket. Or is it less about money to you and more important that they are career driven?
no i mentioned that because people in high paying fields tend to date each other. i never said that he had to be in the same money bracket but 40k isn’t enough especially if i’m making 120k. for me being career driven is important. it is one of the mandatory traits i need in a partner. so he doesn’t have to make as much as me. i don’t mind being the breadwinner. 40k is just way below my financial caliber to the point where it’s a bit insulting honestly.
at least 75-80k is ideal for a minimum
Women date across and up economicly, men date across and down. So men will marry women who are broke but it's rare to see the reverse. I don't know about doctors specifically but ruch men don't care how much their women make, we agreed on that earlier.
I'll ask then, if he's a doctor and loves his field and career, but made 40k a year. Would you be with him?
in this economy it’s not rare because as of February 2021 in the US, 50% of women in a two partner household make the same or more than their partner.
i want to reiterate again that the only reason i mentioned doctors and lawyers is because people in high paying careers tend to date each other. this is even seen with actors and musicians. because you’re in the same social circles, you tend to have more access to each other. that’s just the way it works.
this girl is delusional
not if he’s making $40k for the rest of his life. being career driven means that you’re hustling to get to the top and constantly improving. you’re not career driven if your income never increases.
i’m so sorry sir. i don’t care about the opinion of anyone who’s post questions like “why do black girls hate white tits” at the age of 43. sorry.
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You can absolutely be career driven and make 40k a year. In fact that's most careers.
i don't believe you're even a nurse
Most military don't make more than 40. I definitely wouldn't say they aren't career driven.
people who are career drive are constantly trying to level up in their career. that’s the type of career driven i’m talking about. the one who is looking for raises. the one who applies to a higher paying job every couple years. that type of person.
and i’m only saying that because that’s what i grew up around. my parents didn’t even graduate high school and worked from the bottom up to high paying careers. they just bought a half a million dollar house in my home state california and they did that through hard work. i can’t grow up seeing that and not want that in a partner. i’m also the first in my family to go to college, i currently work two job while taking way too many classes, and i’m about to graduate soon into a six figure career. i worked hard to be where i am so i need someone who will have that same mentality.
Money is absolutely not a marker of effort in a career. Lazy people get rich, and poor people work hard.
i’ve worked too hard and put too much work to be where i am to marry a man making $40k a year for the rest of his life. if someone were to happen to me my babies would be in poverty with an income like that. absolutely not.
*something
And also, you just admitted that you care about money more than him being career driven. If you didn't notice.
40k is not poverty. That's middle class. Poverty is below 10k.
to me it is. we obviously have different definition of career driven and that’s fine. as stated i think the way i do because of my background and seeing my parents hustle to always move up in life. i can’t be with a man who won’t do the same.
So you are wanting a man for his money.
if i wanted a man for his money i wouldn’t accept a man who made $75-80k minimum when i’ll be making $120k a year. so that’s a poor argument.
I just have one question then. If you were with a man making as much as you want then when you're 30 something happens and he's now only making 30k a year, would you leave him?
not immediately. things happen and hard times hit. i’m completely understanding of that. as long as he’s hustling to move up the ladder, even if it’s gradually, i’d stay with him. the divorce comes when he’s lazy and complacent and not trying to do better in life. and i’ll be making my partner sign a prenup so it would be a very smooth divorce as they won’t be getting a dime out of me :)
If you really think like this. You will die alone. I'm sorry.
I'm done talking here. If you wanna talk dm me, otherwise Goodnight.
think like what? also would love for you to revert to my earlier comment where i said that being a mother is all that matters to me so “dying alone” is perfectly fine as long as i have my babies.
you can take your apology back as i don’t need it. dying alone is your nightmare not mine.
good night to you too. i hope you make more than $40k one day :)
*dying a single mother.
my dream💗
I hope you grow up and aren't a gold digger.
can’t be a gold digger when you’re accepting men below your pay grade as partners💕
You're 20 years old. You don't know shit. Just wait.
Sure! 40K is a decent earning
You're the only girl on here. The rest are clearly gold diggers.
40K can be a lot, depending on where you live.
It’s not a lot in the United States. Median yearly income for men in 2021 is about 50k
It depends on the state. There are some states where the median household income is 40k, so a single person who is making the same income as the average whole household for that state would be making quite a lot.
Which states? Because when I looked it up, Mississippi has the lowest median household income and that was still a above 40k a year
Both Mississippi and West Virginia have a household income Midian of between 40 and 50k. So no it's not exactly 40k, but it is within the 40K range for a household.
If he was right for me, yes
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Crap I make only 2200 damn social security
Of course
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