OK, so I'm gonna answer somw of this personally and some of it generally. Firstly, I love to shoot with Panasonic GH5s their light, look great and I can use them for my commercial work. The only thing I can't stand about my GH5s (and this has only ever hurt me doing wedding and event work) is how grainy the footage can be. However it handles blacks in dark environments leaps and bounds better than Canon. If you're gonna do wedding work, I would say get the a7s3 with as many batteries as possible, the sigma 18 to 35 and whatever 80mm lens you like.Getting people to behave naturally in front of a camera is difficult and sometimes impossible. My method is to basically sneak around and try to get shots of these people before they notice I'm there. A great time to do this is when their reacting to something or interacting with another person. If it's the bride or groom or someone who the camera needs to be right in their face, get to know them! Tell them a little about yourself, get some small conversation going. When they look at you shooting them they should see you, not the camera. It also rarely hurts to let them know when you've got a great shot of them. "wow, you look absolutely fantastic here, can you do that again" even if there's no possible way it could have been better. If they have a lot of out going friends try to get a fun shot with everyone and show it to them if it's good. They'll all freak out and smile and laugh at how cool they all look. Getting positive reinforcements from friends is a power play. But stealth will almost always been your best bet. Sometimes when I need shots of the crowd, I'll hit focus on something a similar distance from my subject, hit record and lean on the monopod, looking in a totally different direction lol. It works pretty good.
OK so how much to charge is very difficult and changes person to person, client to client. Especially if you're on your own. If you're shooting on your own you should be able to get $500 to $1200 for a job. here's why so much:YOU have expensive equipment, if you drop your camera, that's about $3500 you just lost. Plus the possibility of not getting paidTravelYour skillet which you practice and spent years honing in. Just like how a college student can get paid more for the same position as his non-educated counterpart.Why so cheap:You're shooting all by yourselfI'm guessing you only have the one camera, 2 would get you closer to $1200I'm guessing you also don't have the greatest sound setup either so there's that.If you hire a second shooter to work with you, you could definitely charge an extra $300 to $500 just for that. Clients generally are much more apt to paying more for more people than because of the quality of the work. What you can charge has everything to do with how well you present and sell yourself.
[11:41 PM, 3/29/2020] Brandon: If you can get some good sound added in and a second third or 4th shooter, now the sky is basically your limit. You could charge anywhere from $3000 to $8000 and sell different "packages" which would basically represent tiers for things like how many people you bring with you and how much post production work you put in. You could charge someone say $1000 for a cinema package where the footage is shot in log and properly graded. Just make sure you get all instructions through email, text, Instagram, whatsapp, I don't care as long as it's saved. Here's something wedding people hear a lot. "Hey, where's the shots of (insert something they never asked you to do) I'm pissed and I demand a lower price" People will generally calm down if you can explain what happened to them but you need to have those text messages handy if you want to get your money. It's also extremely useful for just remembering what you need to do. How long does it take. Again this changes person to person. Generally you will give someone a general idea either before or after the shoot. Busy people usually quote a month or two, smart people say whatever the shortest time possible is. Realistically, you should be able to churn a video out in 10 days or less so tell them 14 days. The speed that you can get them something to show their friends is super important. The best guys I know, always have a little 1 minute long trailer ready in less than 48 hours! And believe me, they will talk about you for doing it, the video will be blasted all over Facebook so make sure you stick your name in there somewhereThere are people I know who charge over $20,000 to do a wedding. He has an impressive studio and a full staff.
Wow! I appreciate the through responses to all the questions! I've got my step brother who is getting married as well as a close friend, thus asking these questions for insight for them as they both had hired someone for videography. Unfortunately my friend has postponed her wedding due to covid, but my brother is still riding things out as his wedding is in August.
Oh wow, I'm sorry to hear about those troubles. I was actually having a conversation with a friend the other day, we were talking about how bad we felt for people who lost money from not being able to use their event space and such.I hope your brother can have his wedding but it sounds like he's cutting it close! Fingers crossed!
Do you personally have an interest in the industry what do you do?
I love it so much it hurts!
How did you get into it?
When I was a kid I used to run around with a tape recorder and make videos all the time. Eventually I got a job at a place editing wedding video, then a job as a photographer for an event company. One of those companies that gets the dj and dancers and tvs so I was always at very expensive weddings and my pictures went up on the tvs. Something I did that no one had done before was that I shot my photos in raw and edited them very quickly. Before throwing them up on the tvs. Which was an insane idea. Nobody could believe I was doing it and I had photographers giving me their cards at the end of pretty much every job we did. Because they couldn't believe how many good pics I put up there... And I did it with a camera lens that was falling apart too! Haha.I also spent my time freelancing as a wedding photographer and shooting web series for people on Craigslist. Anyway eventually I met an extremely talented guy who was trying to move from commercial photography to commercial video. He knew nothing about video, but he was an industry leader in color and lighting. Plus he had over 20 years experience working commercially. I knew basically everything you could ever want to know about video and really felt like I needed to learn how to act in a commercial setting so a partnership was formed.And that lead to food network and medium budget music videos and million dollar fundraisers. We've been a really good team.The short answer though is I learned everything I could, practiced a lot, did shit my own way and found someone better than me. That's a really important step.
That's fascinating What do you do now? Can touch still do your job? I want to study graphic design and photography. It is a great art and pleasure
Right now I sit around and cry about the work I lost because of the Coronavirus haha! Had to temporarily move mack in with my mom and my brother. But my friend and I still work together. It takes a long time to figure out how to do a video company though. Graphic design is really something that's useful to be good at. But you gotta be really really good. Not that I really know anything about it.Photography is so good to get into. Its relaxing when you're doing it for fun and so rewarding when you do it for work.Photography is one of the only things that you could be working on something you totally hate. Maybe you hate the picture and think what the client is asking you to do sucks but when you're done you're still proud of it haha! It's always a good time.
When I was younger definitely some of my ideas about life and people were formed by what I saw on TV. But what I think is an important thing to remember is that when you watch something on TV, you're not necessarily being taught anything, you're being presented with something and its up to the viewer to contemplate what they see. Very similar to experiencing something in real life. So I think that for very young kids, Parents need to make sure that their kids understand what it is that their watching and if they don't either educate them or make the decision that their not ready for the material yet. But once your about 10 I would say buy and large your past that stage. You see a guy steal on a show and he looks cool, it's not like its the shows fault that kid starts stealing. I think the consequences are more about seeing the world differently. When breaking bad came out it started a pretty big debate about what makes a person good or bad. and where the line gets drawn. And can a bad person be good and can a good person be bad. Most people never think of these things. You see a guy at work, he acts like a dick, so you think he's just a dick. I think television has taught society to be a little more introspective. And while not everyone has a healthy reaction to it, I do believe that those people are a minority.
Interesting and thoughtful view ot the things! Quite unexpected main line, I liked that=)
Never worked on one. I would love to do it but I think there would probably be a language barrier and I'd have to just be an assistant or something haha! Those movies are shit in India and I think Switzerland or somewhere like that. But it would be really cool just to be able to be like "I did that"One thing that's interesting about bollywood is that there was a time they didn't allow woman to be makeup artists on their India sets. The government eventually stepped in and said it goes against their constitution which guarantees equal rights and liberty. Which as an American kinda gave me whiplash when I learned about that because the example they used to give about societies who had rights based on social status when we were in school was ancient India.
To be honest I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never heard of that and I doubt that it's true. Almost every make up artist is a women here and it's been like that for a long time. Also I don't know what ancient India you're talking about but it was 100% worse than what they've told you. They used to burn widows what do you think?
Yea I knew about that. And I can't say how trur the makeup artist story is because I only heard if from one person but I understand it was more than 20 years ago
Oh my God I meant to write shot* not shit, they're shot* on india
OK so I just looked it up it s a little complicated so here's the articlem.telegraphindia.com/.../296341
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When I was a kid I used to come home, watch a ton of movies and TV and take notes, trying to pick apart what I liked or what made something good. I studied filmmaking like it was a class in school. Got very good at editing and putting videos together and eventually found a job editing videos for a wedding guy. I was really not into it because I didn't feel like the guy was better than me so I found a job working for a different wedding company doing photography and some graphic stuff. Also got some office experience. Learned to negotiate over the phone. Because sometimes we bought stuff in bulk and I could always talk our prices down.I did well at that job because my work went on to tvs and other photographers would see my pictures and they couldn't believe how fast I was editing my pictures and putting up great ones.Eventually I meet a guy who was a commercial jewelry photographer. Which skill wise makes this dude a Rockstar. I mean he is really, really good. Much older than me but wanted to transition into video. He said he'd teach me about how to work in the commercial world if I helped him get into video production. And we started working together. We started off really small and eventually someone gave us a $50,000 investment. I dropped out of college, lost a lot of sleep and it's lead to some amazing accomplishments and experiences.
That's really freaking awesome. I always wanted to get into something more artistic. I wrote a book that I was gonna work on so I could get it published. I just wish I accomplished more in what I want to do. I would love to be a screenwriter! I even applied at SCAD but they refused me... which dropped my motivation and hope to an all new low but even though I'm older maybe I can get it back and be a screenwriter for marvel. That's my dream.
You can do it! The best thing about the creative industry is it doesn't work like any other. You don't really need a degree. You just gotta show you can do it. I've seen so many people start in their thirties and be good.You should keep writing. They have little contests where they give you a prompt and a week to write a short story.
Thank you. Once I get my mojo back, I'll try giving it a shot🤗 maybe my book will make it big haha