I think kids should not go to college unless they want to be a healthcare professional, an engineer or a mathematician, how about you?

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I say this to voice my concerns, since I have seen so many good people go into debt for useless degrees, only to be working at Starbucks. One Starbucks server would educate the customers with his useless zoology degree while they wait for their drinks. And I saw one guy cutting the grass who has a master's in history.

It's so ridiculous nowadays. Why not become a tradesman and work in construction, welding, plumbing, HVAC, etc? Good money there, plus you don't have to be in debt.

Millennials were born cursed, since many of them started college in 2008, when George W. Bush wrecked the economy. Gen-Z is more fortunate, since many of them knew the economic path the USA and many countries were headed for, so they were smart about it and knew what to do.

I say this as a 30-year-old STILL working on his bachelor's degree in computer science. I was enrolled since I was an 18-year-old freshman. But I don't want to take out loans, so I ended up having to take a LOT of time off, since I ran out of money at several points. I think it's better to be a late bloomer with no debt than a hotshot young whippersnapper with debt.

What say you? Should we have more young men and women working in the construction zones and less of them in colleges, unless they want to be doctors or engineers?

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NamerOfStars | 94 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

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No. You're right in that we have WAY more over-educated people than we need, and that many college programs are FAR more expensive than they're worth, but abandoning higher education to the technical crowd isn't the answer. The problem with technically-focused learning is that it pushes its recipients to view the world through a single lens- that of their specialty. That's why, to pick a relevant example, we have economy-crippling lockdown policies being pushed by epidemiologists. They know how to contain a virus, yes. They don't know squat about how to manage an economy, or about the psychological needs of human beings, or how many humans are required to go out and WORK to maintain the infrastructure that makes a modern economy possible.

This ideological narrowmindedness can be mitigated if not avoided entirely by including a strong chunk of the humanities in an individual's education, but quite a few technically-minded people will object; "I'm going to be doctor; why do I need to know what the ancient Greeks thought about why the moon goes through phases?". Tell them it's compensate for the psychological limits of human beings and they'll just laugh (smart people often tend to think those don't apply to them); push those lessons into earlier education and they'll be dismissed as unimportant.

Now, you mention going into the trades, and that's a good option for many- it's cheaper and more reliable (know how many unemployed lawyers we have in this country?), but while you may rise up to be solidly middle-class much sooner than your more educated counterpart, you're less likely to rise past that- and pursuit of gold is a time-honored human pastime that Americans have made a national sport. In France, it's "cherchez la femme"; here, it's "cherchez l'argent".

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1 mo
You'd be surprised how many unemployed lawyers there are. That's why I see law as a terrible profession. JDs are worthless too.

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You'd be surprised how many unemployed lawyers there are. That's why I see law as a terrible profession. JDs are worthless too.

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Hogwheels

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I think there are far more reasons to go to college, but I agree that too many peoplego to college. Its like we as Americans have decided college is the standard for being educated. Instead we should be improving or primary schooling so educated peopleare coming out of 12 th and we need to stop with this "no child left behind" thing. It's ok if one child gets farther into education than another. Teach to capability, don't hold the capable back because their peer can't keep up.

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"No child left behind" was W. Bush's idea. Goes to prove that ever since Ronald Reagan, all Republicans have proven to be incapble leaders.
Hogwheels

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I'm a conservative but I did gate Bush as our president. Neither Bush nor Trump were actually conservatives. Being a conservative myself, there are only 3 to 5 republicans in federal or state positions of office I really respect (Rand Paul, Kristi Noem, and Mike Lee are the three I'm sure of).
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I am a registered Democrat, but I have some conservative views myself, as I oppose feminism. But Reagan, the Bushes and Trump have proven to be incompetent leaders in my eyes. However, I would have voted for John Kasich, had he been nominated to run against Hillary Clinton. Also, Mike DeWine of Ohio and Larry Hogan of Maryland are competent Republican governors, while I see Gavin Newsom of California to be an incompetent fool.
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Hogwheels

1 mo
I'm actually mostly libertarian, but I have some ideas that are far left leaning and very anti-libertarian. I appreciate a person that can look across the isle. I really liked Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard. I would've voted either of them over Trump, but I didn't vote Trump anyways. During Trump's primary race, I was hoping for Rand Paul, or Ben Carson, but recently I've been pulling for Kristi Noem and Mike Lee.
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1 mo
For 2020, Yang was my first choice. I also like Bloomberg and Buttigieg also. I disliked Biden, but only voted him because he was the only choice other than the whining, complaining crybaby we had in office. As for Drs. Paul and Carson, I found neither of them competent.
Hogwheels

1 mo
Paul and Carson: Neither of them lie down to lobbyists, both of them care about serving underserved people, and they're both financially wise. Those are my three criteria for voting. Yang and Gabbard also both fit these criteria.

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"No child left behind" was W. Bush's idea. Goes to prove that ever since Ronald Reagan, all Republicans have proven to be incapble leaders.

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Hogwheels

I'm a conservative but I did gate Bush as our president. Neither Bush nor Trump were actually conservatives. Being a conservative myself, there are only 3 to 5 republicans in federal or state positions of office I really respect (Rand Paul, Kristi Noem, and Mike Lee are the three I'm sure of).

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I am a registered Democrat, but I have some conservative views myself, as I oppose feminism. But Reagan, the Bushes and Trump have proven to be incompetent leaders in my eyes. However, I would have voted for John Kasich, had he been nominated to run against Hillary Clinton. Also, Mike DeWine of Ohio and Larry Hogan of Maryland are competent Republican governors, while I see Gavin Newsom of California to be an incompetent fool.

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Hogwheels

I'm actually mostly libertarian, but I have some ideas that are far left leaning and very anti-libertarian. I appreciate a person that can look across the isle. I really liked Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard. I would've voted either of them over Trump, but I didn't vote Trump anyways. During Trump's primary race, I was hoping for Rand Paul, or Ben Carson, but recently I've been pulling for Kristi Noem and Mike Lee.

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For 2020, Yang was my first choice. I also like Bloomberg and Buttigieg also. I disliked Biden, but only voted him because he was the only choice other than the whining, complaining crybaby we had in office. As for Drs. Paul and Carson, I found neither of them competent.

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Hogwheels

Paul and Carson: Neither of them lie down to lobbyists, both of them care about serving underserved people, and they're both financially wise. Those are my three criteria for voting. Yang and Gabbard also both fit these criteria.

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Astarlessnightsky | 239 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

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Or you could just make college education free for all and no one gets trapped with lifelong debt.

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1 mo
They don't want to. The powers that be run education.

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They don't want to. The powers that be run education.

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