They want to open schools saying it's safe but how many kids dying will make it all ok?

Question

They want to open schools, saying it is safe, yet the studies have been in rural areas, not major cities. I'm just wondering, what is the magic number of kids dying, or their parents/family members or teachers dying before they say hmmm, maybe we shouldn't open things up yet?

Updates:

1 mo

Announced that countries and areas that had opened schools, when these new covid variants hit, they had to close. Especially bad is the one from Brazil. Highly contagious and more deadly. So yeah, kids may not pass it to each other that much, but when they get home, they pass it to their family members, to teachers who then pass it to their family.
Scary times.

Answer 1

Hogwheels

Xper 6

Actually, only like one person in the entire US under 18 has died of Covid. Its extremely rare for young boys and girls that Covid is lethal to them. The push to keep schools closed was actually about keeping kids from spreading the disease among each other then taking it back home to their older family members who might be more susceptible.

Hogwheels

1 mo
And of course for teachers
Jessie91331

1 mo
You are wrong there. been way more kids who have died from covid. 1 in so cal a week or so ago.
Hogwheels

1 mo
Numbers might've started going up in the last couple months. CDC stated only 1 death under 18 back in December. Regardless, the death count is so insignificant among the youth, its really not a concern. Covid is far more deadly than the flu for older adults and people with comorbidities, but for kids, it really is no more dangerous than the flu.

Answer 2

Hogwheels

And of course for teachers

Answer 3

Jessie91331

You are wrong there. been way more kids who have died from covid. 1 in so cal a week or so ago.

Answer 4

Hogwheels

Numbers might've started going up in the last couple months. CDC stated only 1 death under 18 back in December. Regardless, the death count is so insignificant among the youth, its really not a concern. Covid is far more deadly than the flu for older adults and people with comorbidities, but for kids, it really is no more dangerous than the flu.

Answer 5

NamerOfStars | 91 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

Guru

What's the alternative? Keep things closed forever? Spend eternity hiding from a virus that, at your age, is less dangerous than chicken pox? Covid is exceptionally contagious, has a very low fatality rate, and has crossed multiple species lines already- how much damage has to be done before you admit it can't simply be waited out? How many deaths of despair will it take? How many suicides and overdoses? How many kids dying will make it all ok to assume that life can be put on hold?

Answer 6

collie22

Xper 6

I do school at home now, I don't think it's safe to be in school with everyone

Answer 7

Goforit1010

Guru

So... just how many kids have died from C-19? I don't mean those who were in a car accident or riding their bikes with COVID, I mean just from COVID only?

Open the schools and get the country back to work again. This lockdown shit is stupid beyond all measure.

Answer 8

DJB72 | 54 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

Explorer

Politicians don't see people, they see statistics.

It will take one of their kids or friends dying before they take notice and even then they may not do anything.

Jessie91331

1 mo
The local news ran a story from a major hospital here, a whole wing is for those long term covid patients that just can't recover. Kidney failure, heart/lung/brain problems. Sad that the major news outlets won't talk about it.
DJB72

1 mo
That was my story last year. The hospital wasn't sure I'd survive. The Long Covid ward was also Covid ICU because there wasn't enough space. I had kidney, heart and lungs shut down completely - CPR for over 2 hours to revive me, dialysis until my kidneys recovered and an extra 3 months in rehan while my lungs were recovering. All of the patients in the ward had similar stories. What does the statistics say? "Survived". No mention of residual impact, just "not dead, so obviously all better" BS from media and politicians.
Jessie91331

1 mo
That is what I've been hearing... I'm glad you are doing better... hope you recover 100%. Just sad that the media isn't talking about this... I understand fox and the other trump networks ignoring, but for all of them to just gloss over it... disgusting.

Answer 9

Jessie91331

The local news ran a story from a major hospital here, a whole wing is for those long term covid patients that just can't recover. Kidney failure, heart/lung/brain problems. Sad that the major news outlets won't talk about it.

Answer 10

DJB72

That was my story last year. The hospital wasn't sure I'd survive. The Long Covid ward was also Covid ICU because there wasn't enough space. I had kidney, heart and lungs shut down completely - CPR for over 2 hours to revive me, dialysis until my kidneys recovered and an extra 3 months in rehan while my lungs were recovering. All of the patients in the ward had similar stories. What does the statistics say? "Survived". No mention of residual impact, just "not dead, so obviously all better" BS from media and politicians.

Answer 11

Jessie91331

That is what I've been hearing... I'm glad you are doing better... hope you recover 100%. Just sad that the media isn't talking about this... I understand fox and the other trump networks ignoring, but for all of them to just gloss over it... disgusting.

Answer 12

strawberrylipstick

Xper 5

This was a pretty rhetorical question, but generally speaking, the people dying are usually their grandparents who they take the virus home to. Either way, the government doesn't care, they're completely bullshit. We'd get farther with anarchy at this point with the political system we're working with.

007kingifrit

1 mo
grandparents just won't go around the kids, its simple
strawberrylipstick

1 mo
@007kingifrit I think i lost braincells reading that
007kingifrit

1 mo
i think what i said was so correct you're just incapable of responding because you now know you are wrong

i'm right. the problem is not grandparents getting sick because they are the only at risk group and thus should be in 100% lockdown at all times anyways
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strawberrylipstick

1 mo
@007kingifrit Bruv, you really fail to realise that some kids have to go home and take care of their parents and granparents. "not going around the kids" isn't an option Honey
007kingifrit

1 mo
and what % of kids is that? almost none of them. public policy making is always about leaving some group behind. its ok for those kids to still stay home
strawberrylipstick

1 mo
@007kingifrit When I was younger I had a proper plan. Keep myself naive, take advice from the man. But then I turned 17 and I saw in my head he was blowing up the world with a ballpoint pen. Then, I met a person, I think I fell in love, a certain kind of love that you can't find in drugs, then I fucked it up, needed alone time. I'm a 21st century liability
007kingifrit

1 mo
wtf? you just changed the subject to jibberish because you lost an argument
strawberrylipstick

1 mo
@007kingifrit Nope, I changed it to lyrics because I'm bored of listening idiots :)
007kingifrit

1 mo
so as expected you couldn't beat me in an argument and you ran away

open the schools, keep the old people locked away, don't send the kids who live with their grandparents back to school very simple
strawberrylipstick

1 mo
@007kingifrit I just think its funny to let you live thinking something dumb XD
007kingifrit

1 mo
no you don't, the real answer is that gays like you are emotionally damaged and can't handle conflict. you're weak. you were wrong, you can't retract your words and you can't make a real argument. I guess getting molested as a child does that to fags eh?
strawberrylipstick

1 mo
@007kingifrit Aw.. you really tried to insult me, Honey gay isn't an insult to someone who IS gay XD
007kingifrit

1 mo
it is, that's why you kill yourselves so often. plus i was able to guess just because you argue like a bitch
strawberrylipstick

1 mo
@007kingifrit See you think you're being hurtful but you're weakening your argument by resorting to insults instead of staying calm and using logic :)

Answer 13

007kingifrit

grandparents just won't go around the kids, its simple

Answer 14

strawberrylipstick

@007kingifrit I think i lost braincells reading that

Answer 15

007kingifrit

i think what i said was so correct you're just incapable of responding because you now know you are wrong

i'm right. the problem is not grandparents getting sick because they are the only at risk group and thus should be in 100% lockdown at all times anyways

Answer 16

strawberrylipstick

@007kingifrit Bruv, you really fail to realise that some kids have to go home and take care of their parents and granparents. "not going around the kids" isn't an option Honey

Answer 17

007kingifrit

and what % of kids is that? almost none of them. public policy making is always about leaving some group behind. its ok for those kids to still stay home

Answer 18

strawberrylipstick

@007kingifrit When I was younger I had a proper plan. Keep myself naive, take advice from the man. But then I turned 17 and I saw in my head he was blowing up the world with a ballpoint pen. Then, I met a person, I think I fell in love, a certain kind of love that you can't find in drugs, then I fucked it up, needed alone time. I'm a 21st century liability

Answer 19

007kingifrit

wtf? you just changed the subject to jibberish because you lost an argument

Answer 20

strawberrylipstick

@007kingifrit Nope, I changed it to lyrics because I'm bored of listening idiots :)

Answer 21

007kingifrit

so as expected you couldn't beat me in an argument and you ran away

open the schools, keep the old people locked away, don't send the kids who live with their grandparents back to school very simple

Answer 22

strawberrylipstick

@007kingifrit I just think its funny to let you live thinking something dumb XD

Answer 23

007kingifrit

no you don't, the real answer is that gays like you are emotionally damaged and can't handle conflict. you're weak. you were wrong, you can't retract your words and you can't make a real argument. I guess getting molested as a child does that to fags eh?

Answer 24

strawberrylipstick

@007kingifrit Aw.. you really tried to insult me, Honey gay isn't an insult to someone who IS gay XD

Answer 25

007kingifrit

it is, that's why you kill yourselves so often. plus i was able to guess just because you argue like a bitch

Answer 26

strawberrylipstick

@007kingifrit See you think you're being hurtful but you're weakening your argument by resorting to insults instead of staying calm and using logic :)

Answer 27

Anonymous

you're reading the wrong liberal news dude. California and New York now want to open everything back up, not just schools. It was only unsafe until the election was decided. Now that Trump is gone, there's no more need to shut everything down according to them. Try and keep up.

Jessie91331

1 mo
funny, you need to watch more than just fox or breitbart.
007kingifrit

1 mo
@Jessie91331 you need to watch more informative news also, i recommend ben shaprio; his wife is a doctor =p

Answer 28

Jessie91331

funny, you need to watch more than just fox or breitbart.

Answer 29

007kingifrit

@Jessie91331 you need to watch more informative news also, i recommend ben shaprio; his wife is a doctor =p

Answer 30

Snakeyes7 | 66 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

Yoda

The only people in danger of the virus are people over 70 and those with comorbidities. We can protect them without strangling the economy.

msc545

1 mo
That is absolutely not true and you should stop passing around that sort of misinformation. Right now the age group that seems to be dying from it most often is between 40 and 50. Also you are ignoring the fact that the virus damage is people's organs and even if they survive they don't live a decent life for very long afterward
Jessie91331

1 mo
@msc545 isn't it sad that those so locked into trump and his philosophy are still saying things that are known to be false. The damage to the body of younger people will not be noticed for awhile... but a 1 month lockdown, let this thing die, then we can get back to living. But that inbred mentality just won't let that happen.
Snakeyes7

1 mo
Even still, I don’t remember taking measures this extreme back in the time when polio was around where you will be guaranteed to be paralyzed from the neck down and you would have to be connected to a huge machine to help you breathe.
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msc545

1 mo
A lockdown won't kill it
Snakeyes7

1 mo
Ok so why would you expect it to work on covid? If it spreads through the air, wouldn’t trapping people in with someone who *could* be sick be the last thing you want to do?

Answer 31

msc545

That is absolutely not true and you should stop passing around that sort of misinformation. Right now the age group that seems to be dying from it most often is between 40 and 50. Also you are ignoring the fact that the virus damage is people's organs and even if they survive they don't live a decent life for very long afterward

Answer 32

Jessie91331

@msc545 isn't it sad that those so locked into trump and his philosophy are still saying things that are known to be false. The damage to the body of younger people will not be noticed for awhile... but a 1 month lockdown, let this thing die, then we can get back to living. But that inbred mentality just won't let that happen.

Answer 33

Snakeyes7

Even still, I don’t remember taking measures this extreme back in the time when polio was around where you will be guaranteed to be paralyzed from the neck down and you would have to be connected to a huge machine to help you breathe.

Answer 34

msc545

A lockdown won't kill it

Answer 35

Snakeyes7

Ok so why would you expect it to work on covid? If it spreads through the air, wouldn’t trapping people in with someone who *could* be sick be the last thing you want to do?

Answer 36

Kaneki05 | 105 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

Guru

I dunno but did you know globally in 2020 the amount of deaths add up to only aporx 0.3% of england living residents. This can be taken as a good point for both sides really.

Answer 37

joeldalton

Yoda

Children don’t die of covid-19. They also aren’t spreaders of the disease. They need to be in school. We are passed time to open things up.

msc545

1 mo
Some kids die from it some kids don't die from it but they have organ impairment as a result of having it and all of them certainly can spread it
joeldalton

1 mo
@msc545 More kids drown than die from covid. A study of in-person schools in NC found extremely-limited spread from students to teachers.

I'm not playing a semantics game with you. Can, doesn't equal often. A meteor CAN fly through the roof of your house and kill you.

The damage to students from being out of school far outweighs any spread to teachers or "organ impairment"
msc545

1 mo
How do you know that?
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joeldalton

1 mo
@msc545 New York has 'lost' 2600 students.

Poor students are losing ground academically
www.latimes.com/.../online-learning-fails-low-income-students-covid-19-left-behind-project

www.usatoday.com/.../

The CDC recommends in-person learning as well.

Las Vegas is seeing an uptick in student suicides
www.nytimes.com/.../...des-nevada-coronavirus.html

www.timesofisrael.com/.../

That's how I know that.
msc545

1 mo
I see. Do you regard all that as facts? How do you know they are facts?
joeldalton

1 mo
@msc545 Can you dispute those studies?
msc545

1 mo
Can you support them?
joeldalton

1 mo
@msc545 Can you dispute them?
Jessie91331

1 mo
@msc545 I wish more people had your intelligence. So many people want things the way they were before... well don't we all, but won't happen for a long time.
Jessie91331

1 mo
Yeah... look at the cdc study... a small rural school district, where the kids could be easily spread out. After school, back home to their farms or nice single family houses. yeah.. that's the real world.
joeldalton

1 mo
@Jessie91331 You are talking out of your ass.

https://adc.bmj.com/content/105/7/618

pediatrics.aappublications.org/.../e2020004879

www.technologynetworks.com/.../largest-covid-19-tracing-study-to-date-finds-children-are-key-spreaders-341122
joeldalton

1 mo
Multitude of studies say they are not spreaders vs. 1 that does. We're supposed to follow consensus, right?
msc545

1 mo
Joel, believe what you want, ignore the science, and unfortunately possibly suffer the consequences. I'm done arguing.
joeldalton

1 mo
@msc545 honestly no one fucking asked you in the first place.
msc545

1 mo
Done arguing with you. Believe what you like.
msc545

1 mo
Ok, remember not to ask me math or science questions, and you will do OK.
joeldalton

1 mo
@msc545 I don’t ask you anything. You’re really not important.

Answer 38

msc545

Some kids die from it some kids don't die from it but they have organ impairment as a result of having it and all of them certainly can spread it

Answer 39

joeldalton

@msc545 More kids drown than die from covid. A study of in-person schools in NC found extremely-limited spread from students to teachers.

I'm not playing a semantics game with you. Can, doesn't equal often. A meteor CAN fly through the roof of your house and kill you.

The damage to students from being out of school far outweighs any spread to teachers or "organ impairment"

Answer 40

msc545

How do you know that?

Answer 41

joeldalton

@msc545 New York has 'lost' 2600 students.

Poor students are losing ground academically
www.latimes.com/.../online-learning-fails-low-income-students-covid-19-left-behind-project

www.usatoday.com/.../

The CDC recommends in-person learning as well.

Las Vegas is seeing an uptick in student suicides
www.nytimes.com/.../...des-nevada-coronavirus.html

www.timesofisrael.com/.../

That's how I know that.

Answer 42

msc545

I see. Do you regard all that as facts? How do you know they are facts?

Answer 43

joeldalton

@msc545 Can you dispute those studies?

Answer 44

msc545

Can you support them?

Answer 45

joeldalton

@msc545 Can you dispute them?

Answer 46

Jessie91331

@msc545 I wish more people had your intelligence. So many people want things the way they were before... well don't we all, but won't happen for a long time.

Answer 47

Jessie91331

Yeah... look at the cdc study... a small rural school district, where the kids could be easily spread out. After school, back home to their farms or nice single family houses. yeah.. that's the real world.

Answer 48

joeldalton

@Jessie91331 You are talking out of your ass.

https://adc.bmj.com/content/105/7/618

pediatrics.aappublications.org/.../e2020004879

www.technologynetworks.com/.../largest-covid-19-tracing-study-to-date-finds-children-are-key-spreaders-341122

Answer 49

joeldalton

Multitude of studies say they are not spreaders vs. 1 that does. We're supposed to follow consensus, right?

Answer 50

msc545

Joel, believe what you want, ignore the science, and unfortunately possibly suffer the consequences. I'm done arguing.

Answer 51

joeldalton

@msc545 honestly no one fucking asked you in the first place.

Answer 52

msc545

Done arguing with you. Believe what you like.

Answer 53

msc545

Ok, remember not to ask me math or science questions, and you will do OK.

Answer 54

joeldalton

@msc545 I don’t ask you anything. You’re really not important.

Answer 55

msc545 | 150 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

Guru

All it will take is kids getting sick, and parents, who were the driving force behind reopening the schools, will be screaming to have them closed.

Answer 56

007kingifrit

Xper 7

have you looked at the deaths by age? kids are not in danger, never were

BestOpinions2020

1 mo
kids can die from it I've see on the news it just happens more to adults
007kingifrit

1 mo
@BestOpinions2020 "i've seen the news" is not a sign of an infomred person. the news lies to you

the news takes the most sensational stories and makes them sound more common than they are.

the odds of a child dying are so low as to be mathematically irrelevant
Random_1996

1 mo
@bestopinion2020 don’t believe the news
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BestOpinions2020

1 mo
@Random_1996 the news might lie but not all the time
Random_1996

1 mo
It does about that
BestOpinions2020

1 mo
@Random_1996 not all the time
Random_1996

1 mo
Yes it does, covid doesn’t kill kids you’re being manipulated
BestOpinions2020

1 mo
@Random_1996 it can but its pretty rare if anyone dies of it its mostly adults though
Random_1996

1 mo
Exactly that’s what I’m saying
BestOpinions2020

1 mo
@Random_1996 ok have a nice day
Random_1996

1 mo
You too

Answer 57

BestOpinions2020

kids can die from it I've see on the news it just happens more to adults

Answer 58

007kingifrit

@BestOpinions2020 "i've seen the news" is not a sign of an infomred person. the news lies to you

the news takes the most sensational stories and makes them sound more common than they are.

the odds of a child dying are so low as to be mathematically irrelevant

Answer 59

Random_1996

@bestopinion2020 don’t believe the news

Answer 60

BestOpinions2020

@Random_1996 the news might lie but not all the time

Answer 61

Random_1996

It does about that

Answer 62

BestOpinions2020

@Random_1996 not all the time

Answer 63

Random_1996

Yes it does, covid doesn’t kill kids you’re being manipulated

Answer 64

BestOpinions2020

@Random_1996 it can but its pretty rare if anyone dies of it its mostly adults though

Answer 65

Random_1996

Exactly that’s what I’m saying

Answer 66

BestOpinions2020

@Random_1996 ok have a nice day

Answer 67

Random_1996

You too

Answer 68

Random_1996

Xper 5

Kids don’t die from coronavirus

Jessie91331

1 mo
Tell that to the families who had a child die from it... do your research.
Random_1996

1 mo
I did do my research
Random_1996

1 mo
@Jessie91331 did you do your research?
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Jessie91331

1 mo
Yes, but please keep following the sound advise of trump and his people. After all, he did say after Nov. 3rd, you wouldn't hear anything about covid, it would just disappear. We see how well that prophecy was.
Random_1996

1 mo
I don’t follow him, I follow science
007kingifrit

1 mo
kids are not at risk from covid. so few have died its like a lightning strike. not a problem

more importantly you aren't at risk if you're under 70, as long as kids stay away from brandparents its fine
Random_1996

1 mo
See I told you @Jessie91331
Jessie91331

27 d
You mean except for the 15 year old in Ventura or the 9 year old in Texas, both died this last week... or the 9 kids, all under 7 years old that died today in Brazil... but other than that... right. and all the others... but they don't really count... stop watching fox news and get some real facts before you start spreading lies.
Random_1996

27 d
I don’t watch the news
Random_1996

27 d
@Jessie91331 the 15 year old had a pre existing disease that made him vulnerable to covid
Random_1996

27 d
@Jessie91331 also the 9 year old had an underlying medical condition which was asthma, so do us all a favor and educate yourself before you start spreading rumors

Answer 69

Jessie91331

Tell that to the families who had a child die from it... do your research.

Answer 70

Random_1996

I did do my research

Answer 71

Random_1996

@Jessie91331 did you do your research?

Answer 72

Jessie91331

Yes, but please keep following the sound advise of trump and his people. After all, he did say after Nov. 3rd, you wouldn't hear anything about covid, it would just disappear. We see how well that prophecy was.

Answer 73

Random_1996

I don’t follow him, I follow science

Answer 74

007kingifrit

kids are not at risk from covid. so few have died its like a lightning strike. not a problem

more importantly you aren't at risk if you're under 70, as long as kids stay away from brandparents its fine

Answer 75

Random_1996

See I told you @Jessie91331

Answer 76

Jessie91331

You mean except for the 15 year old in Ventura or the 9 year old in Texas, both died this last week... or the 9 kids, all under 7 years old that died today in Brazil... but other than that... right. and all the others... but they don't really count... stop watching fox news and get some real facts before you start spreading lies.

Answer 77

Random_1996

I don’t watch the news

Answer 78

Random_1996

@Jessie91331 the 15 year old had a pre existing disease that made him vulnerable to covid

Answer 79

Random_1996

@Jessie91331 also the 9 year old had an underlying medical condition which was asthma, so do us all a favor and educate yourself before you start spreading rumors

Answer 80

Deathraider | 499 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

Guru

The answer is 72.6% obviously.

Answer 81

TallAnon | 408 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

Guru

10-15% of the population? 🤔

Answer 82

GAGSucksBalls1

Xper 6

I think it's a bad idea to open schools

Answer 83

KrakenAttackin | 160 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

Guru

Jessie, you are cute but really dumb.

They want to open schools saying it's safe but how many kids dying will make it all ok?

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