Well, Shazam was captain marvel about 30 years before Marvel was Marvel. Shazam or rather Captain Marvel was first printed in late 1939. Marvel comics at that time was Timely Comics, and around the 50s became Atlas comics and finally in the late 60’s became Marvel comics. Marvel’s Captain Marvel was a promotional stunt that was first printed in 1967. They essentially stole the name from the already established DC character.
Led to years of litigation
Yup. In my opinion Marvel should have had no grounds to stand on legally speaking.
It's actually really complicated. I'll be happy to explain in pm if you're interested. But not now. I have to get to work in a few mins.Or you might already know. You seem well versed on the subject.
I’m familiar, but thanks.
The reason Marvel prevailed is because DC was deemed to have abandoned the trademark after not using it for twenty years after they bought the rights to the character when Fawcett went bankrupt (caused by years of litigation initiated when DC claimed that the original Captain Marvel infringed on Superman’s trademark).
That being said, the final battle between Superman and Captain Marvel in Kingdom Come is pretty awesome.
True, and True. However the fact remains that there was already a trademarked character by that name. Just because they weren’t in use currently didn’t mean they didn’t exist. The LOTR franchise has been used as any kind of new movie material for almost 20 years. Doesn’t mean I can just make a movie and call it Lord of the Rings.
It's not the same thing. I am not an intellectual property lawyer, so I'll refrain from offering any further analysis. (Though I will point out that the word "orc" is in the public domain.)
I know it’s not the same, but everyone agrees it would be ridiculous to do it even if it were legal is my point. Marvel managed to establish it was legal for them to do it, via what was essentially a loophole. But it was still ridiculous for them to do so. The character already existed, and in general opinion it made them look bad.
I like the Monica Rambeau Captain Marvel.
I’m not familiar with that particular version. I’ll have to look into her. Personally I’ve never really been a huge fan of any of Marvels Captains, but who knows this one may be different.
Shazam had some minor SJW moments in a good film.Cptn Marvel was one humongous continuous SJW moment in a shit film.
Sadly almost every movie and tv show made these days has been poisoned with feminist cancer.
@LogicBomber True but at least in Shazam it was not rammed down your throat. it was just part of the story line.In Cptn Marvel it was used as a blunt weapon to beat the audience over the head repeatedly, there was no subtle plot play, just – POW - right in the kisser.
SHAZAM! Was an awesome film! Asher Angel's acting was just on point, he and his castmates were so much better than Brie Larson and they were all pretty much kids! :)
shazam, the original captain marvel.
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A 15 year old kid that says "Shazam!" and becomes a superman level hero? He has power to burst the planet, but he is just a kid! How awsome is that?Beats resting bitch face anytime. Speaking of which... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR3GCIjqIFs
I have three thoughts to share:DC comics > Marvel comicsDC movies < Marvel moviesAnd lastly, Brie Larson is a bitch.Thanks.
DC changed the name of their "Captain Marvel" into Shazam for a very good reason - They didn't want their superhero's name to have any connotations related to the main competition (Marvel comics). Trademark conflicts and copyright infringement were also involved, so changing his name was the only logic solution.That's why I think those are two completely different superheroes.Shazam is DC's, and Captain Marvel is Marvel's.
Not that I particularly like her, but the Carol Danvers Captain Marvel is actually a part of the MCU, which I'm a fan of.Shazam is probably a fun movie and I'll check it out when it comes out on digital release and I may even like it more than the Captain Marvel movie, but I don't particularly care about anything DC.
Shazam was the first captain marvel. He was almost as popular as superman in the days of early comic books.Shazam is the ultimate wish fulfillment character for kids. Every kid dreams to be a superhero and his stories offer a glimpse of that dream.
There's actually 3.There Captain Marvel Captain Mar-VellThen there's Captain Marvel or Shazam as he's known now.Marvell and Shazam are the best the female Captain Marvel is awful and should have never been created.
I’ve not read any comics for Shazam, or seen the movie, so I’ll be biased and say Carol Danvers.
None of them because let's be honest, all those comic figures are basically only disguised US propaganda!
There are actually four Captain Marvels. I prefer the two who are female. Their characters are more nuanced. That being said, I liked the portrayal of Shazam/Captain Marvel in Kingdom Come.
Yeah, i was surprised to see that Shazam and Captain Marvel were two separate characters.(You get me when you read no comics and only watch DC shows like Young Justice and Batman: The Brave and The Bold.)
Shazam ftw. Both could've been equally good characters, but Brie Larson was terrible in her movie and same in Endgame. If you're gonna be a super heroine, Wonder Woman is the model for that route, she was fantastic in her role.
I know nothing about shazam but I hated Brie Larson.
Have never eat watched any = don’t really care😂 but apparently Shazam was pretty good🤔
Marvel captain marvel was the first and the best DC captain marvel was a cheap knock off of marvel's version
Not accurate!!!Shazam was created in 1940.
Really I thought 1960
No. Captain Marvel/Shazam was created in 1940 by Fawcett Comics.
Wow I'm impressed
Oh, that's easy Shazam. It was just a fun time. A feel good flick.
haven't seen Shazam yet but I can't stand Brie Larson. She has the charisma of an unsalted cracker and the likeability of an expired stick of celery
Right wing site... obviously the fragile boys detest powerful women... you can guess the results and handpick who voted what
My vote had absolutely nothing to do with what your talking about. My vote is due to the fact that Shazam was Captain Marvel 30 years before Marvel was even Marvel comics. Marvel stole the name of an established well like character as a promotional stunt, and then sued DC comics for using the Marvel name as one of their characters. It’s total bull what happened, but DC eventually just renamed the character to avoid having to deal with it. DC had legal rights to an already established character named captain Marvel but marvels trademark wouldn’t let them use that name because legal bullshit.
Haven't seen Shazam yet but I think Carol Danvers was good.
The one that isn't forced social justice feminist bullshit "mary sue" garbage.
The Marvel version seems to focus on major Boobage.
shazam. way better development, movie, actor and story.
Why does she have such a flat ass? No thanks already had pancakes
Don't like either of them.I prefer Batman
You must be confused I don’t like any of them
Billy is just a better character all around.
I prefer the modern female version
They are both modern. DC just renamed the charecter after the comic name with the new 52 reboot (2011). The film posters are both from the last 12 months though.
Shazam is the best
Never seen any...
Because I'm shallow, male and have eyes
I don't follow any of those comics or movies
skin tight body suitagainst a guy in spandex.yeah, im going with the skin tight body suit on the womanIm straight
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