What? Turkey has never been an islamic theocracy!
The Turkish constitution states that Turkey is a secular state. Even the Australian constitution doesn’t state anything like that. And
Please research some things before talking about
@Badenwurttemberg I like the song. I dont give a fuck about political stuffs.
@Vivaldi I typed for this australian guy
@Badenwurttemberg It's secular like China is a democracy. Forcing every school child to learn Sunni Islam and be indoctrinated into believing it's actually true and registering every citizen to be officially recognised as Muslim at birth and making everyone have an ID card with their religion electronically encoded on its chip isn't exactly secular.
I am an agnostic myself but in my id, it says that I am muslim. They write islam the day you are born yet you are zero years old. How can you be muslim when you are zero years old. True. You talk sense.
Yeah that's my exact point
@OfDeath Children aren’t indoctrinated into anything. Every religion is taught in the Turkish schools. But mostly Islam thats bc Turkish culture is coming from Islam. So a child needs to know about Islam to understand Turkish culture. How can you know those by living in Australia? Also, there is no the label “religion” on new Turkish ID cards. Well, now lets talk about Australia a bit. Australian flag includes the Christian symbol. Also, the Queen of Australia is the head of the Church of England at the same time. How would you explain that?
It still does not change the fact that Turkey has never been a theocracy.
There is the only one theocracy country in the world for now. It’s just Vatican.
China is a democracy of course. But democracy there is different a bit. Article 1 of the State Constitution describes China as "a socialist state under the people's democratic dictatorship" meaning that the system is based on an alliance of the working classes—in communist terminology, the workers and peasants—and is led by the Communist Party, the vanguard of the working class.Also, China officially is an atheist country. So is the Chinese government
@Vivaldi e devletten değiştirebilirsin bunu vede yeni kimliklerde din ibaresi yok artık olum şu avustralyalı adama bak sen ya medya bunları nasıl kekliyor
ayrıca mesela ben bazı ülkelerdede çocuğu doğar doğmaz kiliseye kaydettiklerini duymuştum yani bilmiyorum artık
@Badenwurttemberg having mandatory religious education which focuses on one religion is indoctrination.
It’s just about the Turkish education system a bit. It’s corrupt, but still it doesn’t make Turkey a theocracy. Also i heard: if you are and do not want to take this religion lesson, you could state that by court order
@Badenwurttemberg lol you're in complete denial about your country. What religion are you?
I don’t think that I wanna learn something about my country from an Australian who lives in the other end of the world
Turkey still is not a theocracy and has never been
@Badenwurttemberg I obviously know it isn't officially a theocracy, what I'm saying is it might as well be and everyone knows the hardcore supporters of Erdogan want it to be.
No, you obviously know NOTHING. The word “theocracy” is not popular in the Turkish language at all. Even, I have seen only you who uses a such word ever. Pretty sure there are people who want Australia to be a theocracy among Australians. But it still doesn’t make Australia a theocracy
Religious education is available in every country. It’s not just special to Turkey and does not make a country a theocracy.
I’ve gotten religious classes for many years so it didn’t become a problem. Nobody is uncomfortable because of it. And I’ve never seen someone who hates religion classes. They gave the infos on atheism, agnosticism etc. in the philosophy classes also
@Badenwurttemberg Your attempts to deflect my point are futile. It has been made on facts.
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