I'm Pro Plastic Surgery

[BeeNee]

To start off, no, I've never had plastic surgery, but that doesn't mean in the future I won't or that I think other people shouldn't if they want it. With the debate on plastic surgery, you usually have team, work with what life or God gave you, and team, if it's broken, fix it, and I of course, am on team, if it's broken, fix it.

When I consider what a vast majority of women in particular do to themselves already, my first thought is, how is plastic surgery any different? What, between fake hair extensions, fake nails, bras and underwear that add boobs and butts that aren't there, make-up, fake contacts, fake teeth implants, spanx that suck and tuck everything---most women have gone low key plastic surgery for years, and if you're going to get pissy about someone wanting a nose job, but give no flack about all the rest, I think it's a situation where the pot is calling the kettle black.

We're living in a world where there are some clear advantages given to the most attractive among us. You have only to read a few takes and questions about how someone's self-esteem is shot down and they hate themselves because of constant teasing about this or that. It's fine to be like, love yourself, oh and you should love yourself, but if you don't, and this is something that can help you, why not?

Now I for one, grew up like a lot of kids, with a mangled set of teeth. Sure, it's what life gave me, but in reality, I didn't want to go through life never smiling due to embarrassment, so I got braces. So did like 90% of my friends, even some now as adults. We know a good set of teeth, a bright smile, is an advantage, but we don't harp on people who do this type of work even though it is just as permanent as someone getting a new set of boobs, or pinning their ears back. You also have reconstructive plastic surgery---that's not necessary most time for a person to be able to keep on living, but no one is going to begrudge someone from reconstructing a breast or their face after cancer or injury--yet, that's not natural either.

Whether you get plastic surgery to lift your self esteem, or repair damage that's been done by illness or injury, or for whatever reason, that's someone's personal choice. You can't tell someone what's going to make them happy or will give them their self-esteem back. The only time I would ever be against this, is if we're talking a child, someone under 18, because the body is still growing and often times, people do grow into their shapes or body parts at an older age due to puberty, but other than that, live your life, get plastic surgery if it's what you want.

[lumos]

I agree with you. I think plastic surgery is ok - what someone else decides to do with their body is none of my business, they don't live and breathe just to please me or anyone else, so why should I care?
The only time I'm not really ok with plastic surgery is when that 0,2% of people getting plastic surgery take it to the extreme, where it's actually potentially harmful to their health. Most plastic surgeons tend to have a limit and usually stop these people when it's starting to get harmful, but there are a few who definitely don't care about their customer's well being and only do the job for money. That's absolutely despicable, especially considering that these people who take it to the extreme usually suffer from some mental health issues. And these surgeons are ok with taking advantage of that.
Life is too short to worry about your insecurities or things you're not content with. If you have the money and the time to get them fixed, then kudos. The road to complete self-acceptance is long and hard, especially if your insecurities are deeply rooted. I totally understand wanting to "fix" whatever it is that you're unhappy with instead of learning how to just accept it. As long as it doesn't become an unhealthy obsession, I really don't see a problem with it and I don't see why these people should be judged for doing something for themselves.

[BeeNee]

That's just it, completely. If you watch tv, it focuses on the horror stories and those crazies who take it too far, and YES, they do need mental help, but you don't ever see the stories of the person who was teased endlessly about big wide ears, getting surgery, and finally feeling good about themselves for once. Let them live! If they want it, if it will help, then why try and judge or stop them from doing it, unless, and I've said as much, they are underage because the body is still growing, but after 18, if they've got the money or you or anyone else, a little something if that's what they feel they need is okay in my book. People do much much worse when they feel bad about themselves, so this is the lesser of a lot of evils.

[lumos]

Exactly! I don't know, maybe I have a more realistic view on plastic surgery because I follow quite a lot on various social media platforms; youtube, blogs, instagram and so on. A handful of these people have had plastic surgery and don't mind talking about it openly, all the pros and cons, why they did it, etc. Often their reasons have been because they were bullied or because they didn't like a certain aspect about what they look like and would go under the knife to get a result they're happy with. People are happy to call such people selfish or shallow, but really, all the people I've followed and whose stories I've listened to are very down to earth, sweet and hardworking people. I find it absurd that anyone could bash them for their personal decision. Like you said there are way more harmful and awful things people can do, both to themselves and others, so I don't get why anyone really cares about plastic surgery (unless they're risking their health for it or is a minor).

[lumos]

quite a lot of people*

[BeeNee]

Precisely. Not everyone out there is trying to look like a Barbie or a cat. Some people get work done, and you wouldn't even know, but for them the results are huge, and I'm all for what makes you happy as long as it's not the underage or mental issues thing.

[lumos]

Preeeeaaach. Honestly someone else's happiness is none of my business, especially when it literally does not affect me in the slightest.

[HikerDude]

I'm in favor of anything that gives people more confidence and helps them love themselves. I was a mess when I had no self-esteem. I built my body and changed my life with weight training and good nutrition. My self-esteem is through the roof now, and it's changed my life completely for the better. I now have the courage to go for what I want and pursue the things (and girls) that excite me without apology. So no one should feel badly about wanting to change their appearance for the better.

[BeeNee]

I wouldn't want anyone to wake up everyday hating or feeling horrible about themselves. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone, and if it's body building or a nose job or learning to accept every single thing about them that helps them, then so be it, but each person is different and what that "it" thing is that will help them is different, and I don't think we should put everyone in a box and say, this one thing works for everyone. Plastic surgery doesn't work for everyone and neither does self love or body building. Each person has to find their thing.

[HikerDude]

I agree. That's my point, if it makes you feel better about you, then go for it.

[Rollwitheat]

I'm Korean.. and my country is famous for plastic surgery...
Yeah I saw many alumnis (girls) do make their eyes bigger, nose job.. etc
I was surprised their face change.
They really got cute and pretty by plastic surgery.
I thought 'Is it not genetic deceive?'

Even actors and k-pop idols.
Some people have proud of their plastic surgery results.

I think 50% of young girls do eye plastic surgery.
Make bigger and double eyelid.
Even more, some few girls want to seem like western girls.
These girls do nose job more higher and more make narrow.
As a matter of course, if they do more and more, looks strange.
And now we have a word "성형괴물" means "plastic surgery monster"

I agree plastic surgery can help grow their self-esteem.
But now.. so many girls do. Even not ugly girls do.
Just other do, so follow.
And some girls pursue for their plastic surgery's results, they do act like bitch on some boys.
Example:Don't pay for date or meet several boys same time
Also we have a word for these girls too..

Ahhh I don't know what I'm saying now.
Anyway i agree with ur opinion. But it should not be indifferent using.
Here Korea, Even Some girls think plastic surgery for status upgrading.
I don't like these social think..😑

[JustinTheGreat]

I agree. I have never understood why people have always been so against it. If someone wants to change their nose or their lips to feel more confident, who cares? It's their face, their life. If getting a new nose makes them happier than let them be happy 🙃

[BeeNee]

Yes, it is such a personal decision for each person because it is something they are doing to their own body. I'm not saying everyone should go out and just get plastic surgery because it will "fix" everything for everybody---but if someone personally feels that's what they want or need, then have at it.

[curiousnorway]

Consenting adults should be allowed to do what they wants to, but that doesn't mean we should encourage cosmetic surgeries. I gets it if someone gets it because of a medical condition, accident etc. But in cases where the person is healthy and has no condition I sees no reasons to encourage it.

The appearance pressure are already high and if everybody are supposed to undergo procedures because of the society's standard it creates a bigger pressure. It makes a pressure that everybody are supposed to undergo it, it gets normalized, people with poor economy can't undergo it and would experience peer pressure and talented surgeons are used on vain people instead of people with conditions making the health line longer. I thinks the society should be better on accepting the average and ordinariness too. Not everyone can look like celebrities anyway.

[BeeNee]

I agree with this sentiment, except look at the average school. How much is being done to actively stop bullies from what they do to people who don't look like "everyone else." Nothing, and even if they tried, with the internet, people go online and tease people until some go so far as to commit suicide. There is constant talk of self-love, but for some that's not enough, and rather then someone offing themselves, if a surgery can help, I'd rather they do that and be able to go on with life.

[LaFemmeFatale]

I am pro plastic surgery too, since my classmate broke my nose in my early teens or earlier and since then I always dream about a day I'll fix it. It caused some breathing issues earlier and plus I always felt like this nose wasn't mine.

My genotype and phenotype should match each other, I shouldn't live with a nose I wasn't born with just because my classmate was an idiot and couldn't stop her elbow from hitting me.

[DeeperMeaning]

I don't support plastic surgery because it feeds people's insecurity. All surgery is dangerous, and to seek it out for purely cosmetic reasons is not only vain but a reflection of some deep rooted issue and possibly mental illness. Plastic surgery among other things i. e. makeup does not increase anyone's confidence, it simply makes them feel less ugly for the time being. It's like putting a band aid on a gaping hole. The only type of cosmetic surgery I can support is reconstructive. These people went through life changing and trauma inducing experiences. There lives were completely altered and reconstructive surgery can increase their quality of life. People should focus on being healthy and taking care of what they already have. Surgery doesn't increase anything, neither does makeup, or fake nails or fake hair. They all just ruin you.

[BeeNee]

To quote what you said: "i. e. makeup does not increase anyone's confidence, it simply makes them feel less ugly for the time being." <----your own words only serve to underscore the reasons why people take the permanent route of surgery. You yourself are apparently admitting that people who wear make-up are ugly and use it to cover up their ugly faces, so why would this possibly encourage people to love themselves the way they are or to not seek out a permanent solution if they can afford one. A push up bra is just temporary, contouring, just temporary, glasses, just temporary, why not fix the eyes with surgery.

You can't make people feel confident because you love yourself. They must feel that for themselves, and if plastic surgery is what gets the teasing to stop, it makes them feel good about themselves, what is the actual problem?

[BeeNee]

Reconstructive surgery is not always necessary, i. e., reconstructing a breast after cancer is not necessary for that person to live, but even you admit that it can increase their quality of life if they undergo the procedure. Why not say to that person, even missing a breast, you are the same beautiful person you were before if plastic surgery is the devil and should not be done because according to you, it doesn't do anything but ruin a person. If it does nothing, how can it help that cancer patient regain self confidence or quality of life if plastic surgery just does nothing. Clearly it does help a lot of people whether they are recovering from trauma or dealing with a life time of people teasing them for what they look like non-stop. Yes, there are people who need mental help and shouldn't get surgery, but that is not the average person who gets plastic surgery. You will always have extremes with everything.

[DeeperMeaning]

I didn't call anyone ugly, I said it makes them feel less ugly. I don't think anyone is ugly, but if someone wears makeup they themselves feel that way about their appearance, otherwise what's the point? Only people who have some sort of insecurity within their appearance would put makeup on, no matter how small it's still an insecurity. It's still something they don't like, it's still something they themselves think it ugly. The only reason I can support reconstructive surgery is because a person was disfigured. That is something that should have never happened to that person and they're trying to regain what was lost. That's the only time it makes sense. The same way an amputee gets a prosthetic leg to increase their quality of life and help them feel "normal" again. A person with both legs doesn't need a prosthetic attachment. A person who feels their nose isn't cute enough doesn't need surgery. They have a mental issue not a physical one.

[BeeNee]

There are a lot of things in life that wasn't meant to happen, but, as some people say, we still play god, and do plastic surgery. As I said, there is a lot of reconstructive surgery that is not necessary for that person to live, but people still do it. By essentially admitting that these things, though not necessary for the continuation of that persons life, do improve their quality of life, then there is something to be said about how plastic surgery can affect ones confidence. If something helps someone no longer feel insecure, or makes them feel whole again, why have a problem with that? You'd rather they remain unhappy because you don't like plastic surgery or you feel confident in who you are?

[BeeNee]

*weren't

[DeeperMeaning]

This is just my personal opinion on plastic surgery. What other people choose to do to their bodies is their choice, but I'm still allowed to have an opinion on it. Even life saving surgery is dangerous, so to undergo a procedure where you have no disfigurement and choose that instead of working on your issues is just unwise. You're still not going to fix the psychological problem that is there. Like I said previously, it's like putting a band aid on a gaping hole, a mental one. The insecurity is still there, they still do not like themselves and are still unhappy about their appearance. There is still something, always something that will make them feel less than, feel unattractive. The problem is in their head, and until they address the mental aspect of it, surgery won't fix anything.

[BeeNee]

Why do people feel the need to say, this is just my opinion? That's not up for debate. Of course, you are voicing your opinion. And mine is this... you keep saying you can't fix the insecurity with surgery, yet you've said that cosmetic reconstructive surgery does just that. How can it work for one person, but not another? Plastic surgery is not listed as a reason for committing someone to a mental hospital. Certain people have body dysmorphic disorders, but psychology does not recognize an individual, say getting a nose job, as reasoning for the need of mental care unless they are unable to live their lives in such a way that they cannot function before or after the surgery or develop obsessions. I used my own example of getting braces, something permanently fixed, that helped me secure my confidence. The problem of crooked gapey teeth has been fixed, and I've not had an issue since. How am I still totally insecure about everything about me when the problem I had has been dealt with?

[BeeNee]

If I fix a broken window in my house, that doesn't mean everything is wrong with my house or I have to then fix all the other windows that aren't broken. You are convinced everyone who gets plastic surgery is somehow incapable of finding happiness and joy in themselves afterward, when even you can't know that's true... why... because you can't know what every person feels or thinks after they've had surgery. We've all heard the horror stories, but there are just as many who come out of it, loving themselves, and glad they had whatever procedure because they do finally feel good about themselves.

[DeeperMeaning]

People feel the need to say it's just their opinion because the way you keep coming across it's like we have to defend our opinion against you. I don't say that in a snide or disrespectful way, but it legitimately feels like you're trying to tell me my opinion is incorrect and I should just agree with you. I've stated my thoughts, and you keep countering those thoughts. If it's not up for debate, then why are you debating? Once again I mean no disrespect by what I'm saying, and my current mood is neutral, but that's what this feels like. As for the house example, you're fixing what was broken. Reconstructive surgery fixes what was broken, or disfigured, or damaged in some way. Fixing your broken window isn't a necessity for the rest of the house to function, but it corrects something that was disfigured.

[DeeperMeaning]

Surgery is extreme when there is nothing wrong with you and you choose surgery there is a deep rooted issue. It doesn't have to be mental illness, but you have something going on psychologically.

[BeeNee]

You don't have to defend anything you don't want to. You have the right to stop talking, but you keep engaging so this to me is a conversation about plastic surgery in which you are giving your opinion, and I am giving me. If this is distasteful or upsetting to you to have a conversation, than by all means, disengage. Two people do not have to agree to talk about an issue or topic and of course if there is disagreement, you're going to state your opinions, and the other person, their own.

My issue here is the emphasis that there is something mentally wrong with someone for wanting/getting plastic surgery, or the idea, that of course there has to be. If someone wants to put on muscle because they feel muscles look better than just being a thin person, do we say, they are mentally unstable for wanting to look better if being thin was their insecurity. No we do not. We praise that person, we say good for them. If someone colors their hair, we don't report them to the psych ward...

[BeeNee]

because they like themselves better with blond hair and the potential attention that comes with it. Most people are insecure about something whether they are the most gorgeous people or the ugliest in their opinion. Some just make the choice to change that so they can feel better about themselves, not because the are suffering a psychosis that needs medical attention. I don't think you really have an understanding of the psychology or mental disorders at all. Now if that's "just an opinion," than it is, but it's not a truth based in the reality of what is construed as mental disorder.

[DeeperMeaning]

I specifically said it might not be a mental illness but there's something going on psychologically. Low self esteem is an issue with your mindset. It's in your head. You think there's something wrong when there isn't. Low self esteem is a reflection of your thoughts, but that doesn't mean you have a disorder. I've never once said these people have mental sickness but they do have some type of mental issue because their thoughts are messed up. Surgery is extreme, people should focus on maintaining what they have, and be healthy. Gaining muscle mass isn't that same as surgery. Gaining muscle mass is improving your overall and doing something your body naturally does. Your body doesn't naturally sedate itself, cut itself open, chop off bits and pieces and tuck skin into other areas. Your body doesn't naturally inject itself with foreign objects. I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm just sharing my thoughts.

[DeeperMeaning]

Honestly it's best to end this conversation here, if you choose to reply that's fine but I won't be saying anything more. You're misreading what I'm saying over and over and claiming I've said things which I haven't. The reality is you think you're right when there is no right or wrong. This is an opinion and that's it. You think you have the right opinion when you don't. Nobody's opinion is right and nobody's opinion is wrong, they just are. With that being said take care and good luck.

[DeeperMeaning]

*correction I did say " reflection of some deep rooted issue and possibly mental illness"
However the point but remains. It may not be mental illness such bipolar disorder, scizophrenia, psychosis, etc etc. but there's still something wrong with their thinking process why they feel the way they do. If they don't address that then the insecurity is always there and will always manifest itself. Now I'm done.

[BeeNee]

Did you read the first paragraph of this because I state that there are two beliefs on whether or not to have plastic surgery, so clearly there are two sides to the coin which I am well aware. I do not need there to be a winner, because of course, we both know, or at least I do, that people are free to do with their bodies what they will whether you and I dis/agree or not. You have since corrected your error about this being mental illness, which no medical text confirms, so I have no issue with anything else you said in terms of personal opinion. I like to have conversations with many people who both agree and disagree with me. You learn more about how you feel about certain things, and get a difference of opinion and how others may think about a subject. The minute it is "not okay" to disagree or talk about a topic openly, we will find ourselves in a society of repression where there can be only one thought allowed. I don't want that, do you? Difficult to interpret how someone...

[BeeNee]

thinks and feels when dealing with text. People get hot headed and say, I know what you're saying and thinking, when they really don't because words and not the actions or feelings behind must be interpreted by the reader, and more times than not, they get misconstrued as something they are not. Anyway, you're disengaging so I wrote this, I supposed, to myself, so have a good rest of your weekend.

[DeeperMeaning]

Thank you and I respect what you're saying. You have a good rest of your weekend as well.

[Mishan97]

Honestly if you can afford it why not. Do what makes you happy! However I do see a problem when people use plastic surgery as a way to deal with their body dysmorphia or self esteem issues. Plastic surgery isn't a solution to those problems. Plastic surgery should only be used by people who are already happy with who they are and know that they are only using surgery to enhance their beauty or fix flaws, not to change them into a whole new person. Cause otherwise you get cases like Michael Jackson and Kylie Jenner

[wankiam]

i am all for it who wouldn't want to look like this?
www.plasticsurgeryhits.com/.../...re-and-After.jpg

if its minor procedure or reconstructive its fine but people can go too far

[yulbsari]

Do what you want, but it's important not to place your self-esteem on your looks... the results of plastic surgery or anything else.

[TheUglyMonk]

Pro Plastic Surgery, more beautiful faces to look at.

Some people like to call whomever has gone through plastic surgery referring to their body as not real; well, if I can touch and feel it, it is real.

I never thought about getting plastic surgery and I don't plan onto but somewhere down the road I might change my mind, I find plastic surgeries really cool as long as people don't overdo it.

You might not like how you look exactly or you might like the way you look but feel like a few touches here and there will make you look even better because hey, there's always room for improvement.

[April10]

I'm all for plastic surgery if that's what someone needs to feel better about themselves. But I do think it's wrong when younger people get it and their bodies haven't even finished developing yet you know? Like 16 year olds getting nose jobs or whatever llol

[altair212]

when you let your insecurities win you could end up doing more harm. megan fox was hot af before plastic surgery now no one thinks she's hot.

[rach_adams]

life is so short, everyone should be able to do what they wanna do. no plastic surgery or plastic surgery as long as they are happy. =)

[CubsterShura]

I don't even pluck my eyebrows to give them a better shape let alone plastic surgery. My teeth are bad as well but that's just part of me and I'll never change them.

I do talk about bleaching my skin a lot. But that's because of my vitiligo not dark skin. I'm not even serious about it.

[MarcoIsAFailure]

Anybody want to hear the stupidest reason for plastic surgery ever?
I'd actually like me penis to be surgically made smaller.
Not because it is to big. Its actually slightly below average,
but:
I was convinced that it was way too small and indoctrinated myself.
Now my issue is actually not thinking that it is too small but freaking out that it's actually almost average.

Don't worry, you don't even have to try to understand, pretty sure it's pointless.

[sedrftvgyhujik]

I agree and i may even get hair surgery latter in life maybe my 30s.
It definitly deserves careful consideration and research though as iv already been doing bit by bit so you know the risks is there high or low and your very sure you know what you want.

[Pomegranate139]

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[YBarros]

http://i.imgur.com/xymA4Vc.jpg so far lip

[es20490446e]

What do you prefer, a perfect plastic flower or a real one with minor flaws?

That said, this is my face only by having a healthy lifestyle:
i11.servimg.com/u/f11/16/19/87/90/god10.jpg

[YBarros]

anti-plastic surgery. all doctor's wants money count.

http://i.imgur.com/gLG7C7K.jpg
Unnatural.

[ArabianPwincess197]

While I don't have anything against plastic surgery, it is the last thing I would ever resort to. It takes away your natural beauty...

[MaiNameIsSunshine]

I agree. If it helps you love yourself and be more happy and confident, I don't see the problem. You aren't hurting anyone!

[Sabretooth]

but it doesn't work? what it it becomes worse

[MaiNameIsSunshine]

@Sabretooth then that's their problem. It's none of your business.

[Sabretooth]

Guessing you fall into that category