Are these features still unattractive even if they fit the persons face?

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I’ve looked many places and many beautiful women all have straight petite noses, almond eyes, and heart shaped faces. They’re eyelashes go straight out. They are put in the beautiful section - and they really are.

A thought crossed my mind and it damaged my confidence. Am I not as beautiful because I don’t have those features?

My nose is thick and has a bump. My eyes are a mix between hooded and almond with my lashes curling really bad. My face is long and my chin sticks out so much and I’m so self conscious about it. My shape is between a heart and an oval.

I don’t know if I could call myself pretty anymore because... I just don’t feel like it anymore.

I’ve told a relative this and they said “I couldn’t see you with a nose other than the one you have now, your features fit you.”

So, is someone still beautiful if their features fit their overall presentation but they don’t have ‘a delicate nose and doll like features’?

Answer 1

ak667

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For me, yeah. I don't find such narrow canonical ideas to fit what I find attractive when I see it. If I tried to combine all the female faces I found attractive, you'd likely end up with just one giant blur: big nose, small nose, big eyes, small eyes, straight eyelashes, curly, thin lips, full lips, etc.

It's not that I find all female equal attractive, might you. I do have my biases but they cannot be narrowed down to a simple set of canonical features like those you described.

And most of the time when I find a female face particularly attractive, it has a lot to do with her facial expressions, demeanor, that sort of thing. There's more than like the spacing between her eyes or anything of that sort and more like what her face might be expressing to me about her character, the way she thinks, feels, acts.

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ak667

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* It's not that I find all female [faces equally] attractive, might you.
ak667

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"Doll-like" is also about the most unappealing description I can think of for a female face. I see those plastic Instagram types and there is an aesthetic there that I wouldn't say is completely unappealing, but it looks so lifeless. My idea of a really appealing face is one that's emotive, where lines form from smiling and laughter, a warmth is conveyed through her eyes -- very animated, dynamic, and conveying a lot of character.
ak667

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* Oops: For me, yeah [as in yes, I think someone can still be very attractive if their features fit their overall presentation even if they lack the features you described].
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Asker

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Haha , thanks for the confidence booster !! But why is doll unattractive if so many desire it?
ak667

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I think it's just some sort of weird canon that has risen. I'm old and traveled so I've seen lots of different standards come and go with both bodies and faces. Like when I was young, the whole big butt wasn't such a huge thing when I was younger. But the Baywatch kind of busty type was popular then. Still it was just media for me. I liked all sorts beyond what was popular on television and swimsuit magazines.

I also got into portraiture and studied lots of faces, male and female. I liked to sketch my friends for fun, like so:

And over the course of observing faces a lot, what I find most appealing is really an emotive face. The least appealing kind of face to me is a poker face, not very expressive of emotions, since that kind of defeats purpose of a face in communicating and expressing what a person feels and thinks. That liveliness/character conveyed is at the heart of what I find appealing to a face -- that's much more important to me than canon.
Asker

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Nice sketch and thanks for thoughts/opinions ! It’s really uplifting to hear this.
ak667

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Cheers. Confidence also boosts facial attractiveness in my opinion. It's not going to change the shape of the face but usually if you take people who are a bit nervous or insecure and afraid of being judged negatively, they're usually more afraid to smile big, laugh loud, their sense of humor conveyed through facial expressions tends to be more limited in range, etc. With confidence and assertiveness you tend to get a more emotive face in response, and I've always found that does, indeed, boost appeal.
ak667

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I think this sort of thing is very attractive (even sexually appeal), for example. And it's not necessarily the shape of her face or any conformity to a canon but how lively and animated and expressive she is with a character to match.

And none of this is divorced from a "shallow realm" in my case. I'm talking about "outer" beauty, not "inner". But when the outside is emotive like this, it triggers a kind of empathetic side where you can feel what she feels, laugh alongside of her, that sort of thing. That's a very attractive quality to me, and I don't think I'm alone in this even if I might questioned this more in a way where I have more words to kind of justify this idea.
ak667

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Always found actresses far more interesting than models in general because their faces do have to emote. They do have to learn to convey their thoughts and feelings through their face. And I think you find a wider range of attractive facial features in the film industry than in fashion, for example, because of that.
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I see... they have the ability to show what they feel which is what makes them truly beautiful?
ak667

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I think that always helped, at least for me, and probably why I find "doll-like" so unappealing -- that's starting to sound very lifeless, poker-faced. Animated, dynamic, expressive -- these are qualities I favor, and pretty sure I'm not alone.

I think that's probably true for at least some women as well towards men. There's quite a difference between statuesque poker-faced male model and like a charming actor who can really convey a lot through his face besides just looking good. Maybe not everyone is wired this way, but I think many will find the latter case much more appealing.

Answer 2

ak667

* It's not that I find all female [faces equally] attractive, might you.

Answer 3

ak667

"Doll-like" is also about the most unappealing description I can think of for a female face. I see those plastic Instagram types and there is an aesthetic there that I wouldn't say is completely unappealing, but it looks so lifeless. My idea of a really appealing face is one that's emotive, where lines form from smiling and laughter, a warmth is conveyed through her eyes -- very animated, dynamic, and conveying a lot of character.

Answer 4

ak667

* Oops: For me, yeah [as in yes, I think someone can still be very attractive if their features fit their overall presentation even if they lack the features you described].

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Asker

Haha , thanks for the confidence booster !! But why is doll unattractive if so many desire it?

Answer 6

ak667

I think it's just some sort of weird canon that has risen. I'm old and traveled so I've seen lots of different standards come and go with both bodies and faces. Like when I was young, the whole big butt wasn't such a huge thing when I was younger. But the Baywatch kind of busty type was popular then. Still it was just media for me. I liked all sorts beyond what was popular on television and swimsuit magazines.

I also got into portraiture and studied lots of faces, male and female. I liked to sketch my friends for fun, like so:
Are these features still unattractive even if they fit the persons face?

And over the course of observing faces a lot, what I find most appealing is really an emotive face. The least appealing kind of face to me is a poker face, not very expressive of emotions, since that kind of defeats purpose of a face in communicating and expressing what a person feels and thinks. That liveliness/character conveyed is at the heart of what I find appealing to a face -- that's much more important to me than canon.

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Asker

Nice sketch and thanks for thoughts/opinions ! It’s really uplifting to hear this.

Answer 8

ak667

Cheers. Confidence also boosts facial attractiveness in my opinion. It's not going to change the shape of the face but usually if you take people who are a bit nervous or insecure and afraid of being judged negatively, they're usually more afraid to smile big, laugh loud, their sense of humor conveyed through facial expressions tends to be more limited in range, etc. With confidence and assertiveness you tend to get a more emotive face in response, and I've always found that does, indeed, boost appeal.

Answer 9

ak667

I think this sort of thing is very attractive (even sexually appeal), for example. And it's not necessarily the shape of her face or any conformity to a canon but how lively and animated and expressive she is with a character to match.
Are these features still unattractive even if they fit the persons face?

And none of this is divorced from a "shallow realm" in my case. I'm talking about "outer" beauty, not "inner". But when the outside is emotive like this, it triggers a kind of empathetic side where you can feel what she feels, laugh alongside of her, that sort of thing. That's a very attractive quality to me, and I don't think I'm alone in this even if I might questioned this more in a way where I have more words to kind of justify this idea.

Answer 10

ak667

Always found actresses far more interesting than models in general because their faces do have to emote. They do have to learn to convey their thoughts and feelings through their face. And I think you find a wider range of attractive facial features in the film industry than in fashion, for example, because of that.

Answer 11

Asker

I see... they have the ability to show what they feel which is what makes them truly beautiful?

Answer 12

ak667

I think that always helped, at least for me, and probably why I find "doll-like" so unappealing -- that's starting to sound very lifeless, poker-faced. Animated, dynamic, expressive -- these are qualities I favor, and pretty sure I'm not alone.

I think that's probably true for at least some women as well towards men. There's quite a difference between statuesque poker-faced male model and like a charming actor who can really convey a lot through his face besides just looking good. Maybe not everyone is wired this way, but I think many will find the latter case much more appealing.

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Anonymous

Your features sound alright and you sound like a beautiful girl.

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