There is an element of truth to a lot of this. Sadly in today's world there really are a lot of young women who don't want decent guys anymore, and I'm more than familiar with those looking to hookup. The part about them texting 6 or 7 other guys is also pretty true.
It's frightening how much things change in a short time. Just yesterday it was the early 2000s and I remember growing up in a world where young women were proclaiming their issues with guys and wanting decent ones who wanted a relationship and how they wanted guys to care about her orgasm. Now it's 2018 and in a lot of young females' eyes decent men are nerdy, and these chicks will lie about wanting a serious relationship but you later find out they're sleeping with a co-worker, guy on campus, a badass, or some dude they matched on Tinder.
Lol agree and disagree with this lol you can gladly pay my bills... jk but women are starting to take over the roll men desire... I feel the past few years roles have reversed... men always get a bad name for one night stands no commitment cheating etc... girls were always kinda the victims... now girls are just as bad we are just better at manipulating and hiding it (I’m not sayin it’s a good thing) we don’t want to give a Man the upper hand by allowing him to take care of us or be the provider we would rather maintain independence... could be no ones truly invested anymore or always has a guard up
For those of you that don't know, chivalry dates back to the middle ages and was the beginning of the human rights movement. Applying chivalry today means either a) You think women only deserve the sliver of human rights included in chivalry; or b) (applying human rights as well as chivalry) you believe women are socially superior to men.
I don't subscribe to either of those mindsets, so I cast chivalry over to the garbage pile of philosophies that have served their purpose and are now obsolete.
I only agree with one part out of this whole thing and that is that women are too busy with working or school and aren't usually bothered by guys. But I disagree with the dead chivalry thing, first off I would feel offended if a guy pays the whole bill, I mean I don't expect him to but I wouldn't be mad at him. At most I'd feel guilty at myself for making him pay the whole bill. And opening doors and stuff, it's always good to do nice things for someone you like. To add, I don't just want a fuck buddy either, I want a serious relationship, my goal is to actually only have at max 2-3 relationships before getting married. Getting married in a serious relationship with my first boyfriend would be perfect for me (though I haven't had one yet, only want one when I'm in university). Then the don't treat a girl too good, I don't agree with that either, why wouldn't you treat someone good if you like them?
Wow... I'm glad I haven't met these feminists. The ones I've dated would have not had a second date if I didn't pay for the first date, and still go on and on about how I'd hold the door, open the car door, drive them up to the front of the restaurant / store if it was raining bring the umbrella around and walk them to the door, then go back in the rain to park. They also wouldn't be texting 6 or 7 guys at once. Maybe two, for a few days, then one. That's what I look for. That's what I like. It's not meant to offend or tell someone they're not capable. It's just manners, plain and simple. You can get your door and pay for your food the rest of the week, but when we're together, I'm going to take care of you. It's my privilege, and if you won't let me do those things, then I'll let you find someone who will let the door close on you, let you walk in the rain and puddles and then freeze your butt off in the cold restaurant. :-)
Well are you trying to attract women who don’t appreciate chivalry or like it? If so, then sure, act like something you’re not. I’m all about being unapologetically you. If you’re a chivalrous man who likes to treat a woman well, then be you and you’ll eventually find a woman who shares those same values. I personally think trying to act like something you’re not in an attempt to attract women is pathetic and it’s something women notice a lot more than you think. Just be you. Unapologetically you.
I get the feel that youve been looking in the wrong place for girlfriends and wrote this after getting rejected🤔 personally I dont mind a little chivalry, I doubt that its offensive and most girls I know dont have that many guys on them and they definetly do not care that much about sex
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Can people like you that aren't even females themselves stop telling what we like and what we don't?
Wrong, wrong and mostly wrong. Common courtesy should never die and is typically appreciated by most. I'm sorry that you have been looking at the bottom of the "thank you" barrel. Gals are relationship oriented- that's the way men and women were made. And don't assume a gal won't reciprocate if you treat her nicely.
That said, I do partly agree with the second sentence in your final paragraph wherein you warned the guys about getting hurt, but, that goes with the dating territory and it goes both ways.
No doubt there are some mean ass nasty betch career feminist tyrannist whores out there and I think I know all of them and your take definitely is spot on concerning them. BUT I'll be if some normal nice girl came up to you that you would forget about all this.
I said this to girls trying to put all guys in a box so Ill say this to you trying to put all women in a box. You dont know all women. Women dont know all men. Women will never fully understand men. You will never fully understand women. The exception is somebody trans if even. You dont know EVERY girl out there. So dont act like you do. While I do feel for ya saying that many women and men need exact equality nothing more or less, beleive me when I say plenty of women do work hard while may others are golddiggers who think housework and baby making is equivilent to serious money making work. Women can suck. Men can suck. Many suck. But all we can do is try to make things suck less.
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I've tried it from every conceivable angle
My takeaway was that no two chicks ever want the same thing. You can't generalize like this
The other things I learned are that chicks themselves don't know that the fuck they want and if they do, they can't just come out and fucking tell you.
I always say let's cut the bullshit. Tell me what you're looking for, and I'll do it. If you wanna fuck me and forget me then let's get down to business so we can move on with our lives. I'd you just want to fuck a lot and never connect or talk or date, then let's just fuck. I'd you want a relationship, fine. Let's build one.
Chicks don't think that way because they don't know what they want. Or if they do, they have this time wasting complex that they can't get over.
This is some ridiculous feminist shit. A guy shouldn't be expected to pay for a date etc and neither should women. However everyone wants to date someone who isn't just all about money or worse– stingy about it. Being nice should be a core value all people should have girl or boy. Girls dont like "chivalry." Girls like kindness– and so do guys.
1. Chivalry is offensive only if it's forces her (and you) into a "box." As in, she cannot do things because she is a girl, and must have things done for her, yadda yadda. If she is by the door, let her open it. If she is by the door, and she wants you to open it, then open it. Do whatever you two want
2. A relationship is made of two people coming together to be exclusive. So, the relationship isn't important, the two people are. Without them coming together, a relationship wouldn't exist. So, I say stop focusing on relationships and start focusing on the other person. Also, chicks want to fuck a man, not be stuck in some couple with a lame.
3. True, you can't treat ANYBODY too good. That will make you a doormat that people step on. Learn to say "no" sometimes,
I can´t speak for other girls, but I do love chivalrous guys. While I don´t need anyone to pay my way, it´s still nice to be treated to dinner or get occasional gifts just because they like me so much. While I won´t be looking to marry for a long time, I´m still dating only one guy at a time. I´m not being intimate with multiple partners at the same time. Guys should definitely keep putting some effort in, because even if busy working or studying, I´d still want that special someone around.
Better idea: I'll be who I want to be for me! I don't care what women want me to be, they can live their own life. That said, being a "Malfoy" won't get you laid (although it might get you arrested). Women don't want nice guys, or assholes. They want strong men... but even then they will shit-test him to death.
Bad boys have bad boy problems, like #metoo and morning after regrets in relation to affirmative consent being barred by alcohol. Don't be a bad boy to get bad girls, be a man and either find a decent woman or walk alone.
Though chivalry may no longer be a part of social mores, may of the offshoots spun from chivalry are still true. The powerful should have compassion for those they have power over, integrity remains one of the most admirable virtues. Taking responsibilility is still admirable and this society could do with a dose of etiquette.
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There is an element of truth to a lot of this. Sadly in today's world there really are a lot of young women who don't want decent guys anymore, and I'm more than familiar with those looking to hookup. The part about them texting 6 or 7 other guys is also pretty true.
It's frightening how much things change in a short time. Just yesterday it was the early 2000s and I remember growing up in a world where young women were proclaiming their issues with guys and wanting decent ones who wanted a relationship and how they wanted guys to care about her orgasm. Now it's 2018 and in a lot of young females' eyes decent men are nerdy, and these chicks will lie about wanting a serious relationship but you later find out they're sleeping with a co-worker, guy on campus, a badass, or some dude they matched on Tinder.
So I get the jist of what you're saying.
Lol agree and disagree with this lol you can gladly pay my bills... jk but women are starting to take over the roll men desire... I feel the past few years roles have reversed... men always get a bad name for one night stands no commitment cheating etc... girls were always kinda the victims... now girls are just as bad we are just better at manipulating and hiding it (I’m not sayin it’s a good thing) we don’t want to give a Man the upper hand by allowing him to take care of us or be the provider we would rather maintain independence... could be no ones truly invested anymore or always has a guard up
On the chivalry thing you're absolutely right.
For those of you that don't know, chivalry dates back to the middle ages and was the beginning of the human rights movement. Applying chivalry today means either a) You think women only deserve the sliver of human rights included in chivalry; or b) (applying human rights as well as chivalry) you believe women are socially superior to men.
I don't subscribe to either of those mindsets, so I cast chivalry over to the garbage pile of philosophies that have served their purpose and are now obsolete.
I only agree with one part out of this whole thing and that is that women are too busy with working or school and aren't usually bothered by guys.
But I disagree with the dead chivalry thing, first off I would feel offended if a guy pays the whole bill, I mean I don't expect him to but I wouldn't be mad at him. At most I'd feel guilty at myself for making him pay the whole bill. And opening doors and stuff, it's always good to do nice things for someone you like. To add, I don't just want a fuck buddy either, I want a serious relationship, my goal is to actually only have at max 2-3 relationships before getting married. Getting married in a serious relationship with my first boyfriend would be perfect for me (though I haven't had one yet, only want one when I'm in university). Then the don't treat a girl too good, I don't agree with that either, why wouldn't you treat someone good if you like them?
Wow... I'm glad I haven't met these feminists. The ones I've dated would have not had a second date if I didn't pay for the first date, and still go on and on about how I'd hold the door, open the car door, drive them up to the front of the restaurant / store if it was raining bring the umbrella around and walk them to the door, then go back in the rain to park. They also wouldn't be texting 6 or 7 guys at once. Maybe two, for a few days, then one. That's what I look for. That's what I like. It's not meant to offend or tell someone they're not capable. It's just manners, plain and simple. You can get your door and pay for your food the rest of the week, but when we're together, I'm going to take care of you. It's my privilege, and if you won't let me do those things, then I'll let you find someone who will let the door close on you, let you walk in the rain and puddles and then freeze your butt off in the cold restaurant. :-)
Well are you trying to attract women who don’t appreciate chivalry or like it? If so, then sure, act like something you’re not. I’m all about being unapologetically you. If you’re a chivalrous man who likes to treat a woman well, then be you and you’ll eventually find a woman who shares those same values. I personally think trying to act like
something you’re not in an attempt to attract women is pathetic and it’s something women notice a lot more than you think. Just be you. Unapologetically you.
Can't take a guy named Draco Malfoy seriously.
Maybe I'd consider if your name was Ron Weasley
I’m rolling 😂😂😂😂
Zingggg!!
You like redheads hey?
@monkeynutts Weasley brothers, Ed Sheeran are hawt.
Hahaha. Its great I have a big red beard.
@monkeynutts Draco is the only Alpha-Male in HP. Ron is so beta.
I get the feel that youve been looking in the wrong place for girlfriends and wrote this after getting rejected🤔 personally I dont mind a little chivalry, I doubt that its offensive and most girls I know dont have that many guys on them and they definetly do not care that much about sex
Can people like you that aren't even females themselves stop telling what we like and what we don't?
Wrong, wrong and mostly wrong.
Common courtesy should never die and is typically appreciated by most. I'm sorry that you have been looking at the bottom of the "thank you" barrel.
Gals are relationship oriented- that's the way men and women were made.
And don't assume a gal won't reciprocate if you treat her nicely.
That said, I do partly agree with the second sentence in your final paragraph wherein you warned the guys about getting hurt, but, that goes with the dating territory and it goes both ways.
No doubt there are some mean ass nasty betch career feminist tyrannist whores out there and I think I know all of them and your take definitely is spot on concerning them. BUT I'll be if some normal nice girl came up to you that you would forget about all this.
What exactly is a "normal" girl?
You left out "nice".. why?
I said this to girls trying to put all guys in a box so Ill say this to you trying to put all women in a box. You dont know all women. Women dont know all men. Women will never fully understand men. You will never fully understand women. The exception is somebody trans if even. You dont know EVERY girl out there. So dont act like you do. While I do feel for ya saying that many women and men need exact equality nothing more or less, beleive me when I say plenty of women do work hard while may others are golddiggers who think housework and baby making is equivilent to serious money making work. Women can suck. Men can suck. Many suck. But all we can do is try to make things suck less.
I've tried it from every conceivable angle
My takeaway was that no two chicks ever want the same thing. You can't generalize like this
The other things I learned are that chicks themselves don't know that the fuck they want and if they do, they can't just come out and fucking tell you.
I always say let's cut the bullshit. Tell me what you're looking for, and I'll do it. If you wanna fuck me and forget me then let's get down to business so we can move on with our lives. I'd you just want to fuck a lot and never connect or talk or date, then let's just fuck. I'd you want a relationship, fine. Let's build one.
Chicks don't think that way because they don't know what they want. Or if they do, they have this time wasting complex that they can't get over.
The secret to being a happy man, is MGTOW
A man claiming to know what women want... how cute.
To be fair, women don't know what women want either.
"We want dominant men to decide things for us"
Nobody knows what a WHOLE demographic wants, because they never want the same thing
This is some ridiculous feminist shit. A guy shouldn't be expected to pay for a date etc and neither should women. However everyone wants to date someone who isn't just all about money or worse– stingy about it. Being nice should be a core value all people should have girl or boy. Girls dont like "chivalry." Girls like kindness– and so do guys.
You are all sorts of off!!
1. Chivalry is offensive only if it's forces her (and you) into a "box." As in, she cannot do things because she is a girl, and must have things done for her, yadda yadda.
If she is by the door, let her open it. If she is by the door, and she wants you to open it, then open it. Do whatever you two want
2. A relationship is made of two people coming together to be exclusive. So, the relationship isn't important, the two people are. Without them coming together, a relationship wouldn't exist.
So, I say stop focusing on relationships and start focusing on the other person.
Also, chicks want to fuck a man, not be stuck in some couple with a lame.
3. True, you can't treat ANYBODY too good. That will make you a doormat that people step on. Learn to say "no" sometimes,
I can´t speak for other girls, but I do love chivalrous guys. While I don´t need anyone to pay my way, it´s still nice to be treated to dinner or get occasional gifts just because they like me so much. While I won´t be looking to marry for a long time, I´m still dating only one guy at a time. I´m not being intimate with multiple partners at the same time. Guys should definitely keep putting some effort in, because even if busy working or studying, I´d still want that special someone around.
Most girls just want a hot guys (usually three or four) to have sex with... that’s pretty much it.
Haha!!!
Seven guys and one woman agreed with this garbage!
I swear. Only GaG.
Don't treat a woman too good?
Better idea: I'll be who I want to be for me! I don't care what women want me to be, they can live their own life. That said, being a "Malfoy" won't get you laid (although it might get you arrested). Women don't want nice guys, or assholes. They want strong men... but even then they will shit-test him to death.
How is being a "malfoy" not gonna get you laid? How will it get you arrested?
Bad boys have bad boy problems, like #metoo and morning after regrets in relation to affirmative consent being barred by alcohol. Don't be a bad boy to get bad girls, be a man and either find a decent woman or walk alone.
Though chivalry may no longer be a part of social mores, may of the offshoots spun from chivalry are still true. The powerful should have compassion for those they have power over, integrity remains one of the most admirable virtues. Taking responsibilility is still admirable and this society could do with a dose of etiquette.