If girls hate when guys treat them like objects why get implants and treat your body like an object?

Question

If you just want guys to be attracted to you physically why are you surprised when that’s all you put out there?

https://youtu.be/nXkvetxhYEs

That video is funny to me because this surgeon is referring to all his female patients as objects.

Answer 1

Tiffany_Taylor_Made

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You seem to believe that being attractive and objectified are the same thing. They're not. Women typically want men to approach them. To increase their chances of being approached, women have to look their best or else most men won't pay them much attention. To be seen as an object means that men only view them specifically for sex or whatever. Sure, while a woman might have an attractive body or whatnot, she is still a person and is a lot more than just her body. Women want to be appealing enough for you to approach them because we understand that men have preferences for beauty. When we finally do get your attention using our looks, we expect men to be drawn to our personalities so that we can have lasting relationships with you. Thus, some women might get surgery to increase their chances of this happening. The reasons really depend on the woman though. Objects, however, don't have personalities and if personality isn't considered in the relationship, then the relationship won't work. At that point, you might as well just meet up for one-night-stands. In that case, women that actually want hookups and one-night-stands don't mind being seen as objects. In that case, who knows? Easy promiscuous women that do objectify themselves go under the knife as well.

startingfitness

1 y
" When we finally do get your attention using our looks, we expect men to be drawn to our personalities so that we can have lasting relationships with you"

that's incredibly stupid. never expect men to be drawn to your personalities if you attract men with your bodies. never.
Tiffany_Taylor_Made

1 y
@startingfitness: Umm, what? That doesn't make any sense. I'm sure that it's the physical appearance that draws most men to women. That's what makes them want to be with them on a sexual level. After that, it makes sense to talk to that woman and uncover her personality to determine if she is compatible with you for a long-term relationship rather than just sex. People are not sexually attracted to personality. Personality is what forms connections with the person that you just happen to be sexually attracted to.
startingfitness

1 y
no that's not how it works at all. if a man only wants you because of your body , it will only be about sex period. it doesn't make any sense to you because you are a woman and don't understand men, although I think its not that complicated tbh.

if a man is drawn to you because of physical appearance that's all you are to him. and if you have sex after that, its sealed, its never gonna change. men just say bs and sweet talk to get into your pants but they don't mean that shit.
a man only sees more in you if you show your personality and he likes you on a deeper level from the beginning. and its necessary he feels this way before you have sex. that's how it works for men
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startingfitness

1 y
basically men have different boxes. if we see a woman as a slut, she is a slut forever.
if we see a woman as being" for sex" we will see her as that forever. even if she gets married and has kids, the guys who knew her for being a freak will always remember her as that freak.

some guys can act respectful but some guys still try to shoot their shot because of this.
if you are seen as a good girl for a long time, then people might not believe it if they hear a rumour that you did something sexual or something you shouldn't have done. so you can work it to your advantage.
but you can go from good girl to bad girl ( if there is enough proof) , but never the other way around.

this is why you should never try to attract a man with your body if you want to keep him. you are setting yourself up for failure
Tiffany_Taylor_Made

1 y
@startingfitness: Well yeah. You're right when you mention that if a man ONLY wants you because of your body, then it would only be about sex. However, I'm not talking about men ONLY being interested in women for their body. What I'm saying is that the vast majority of men approach women that they find sexually appealing. Of course, men know if they find a woman sexually appealing by looking at her. That's why most women try to look their best when they go out, so they can catch men's eye. After that, they approach her and try to get to know her. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. The only men that approach women that they aren't sexually attracted to are those that are desperate. Any self-respecting woman doesn't want a desperate man. Just because a man wants a woman that he finds attractive doesn't mean that he only wants her for sex.
startingfitness

1 y
no I understand. and you get the basics, but you are not doing it right, ill try to explain this.
" the vast majority of men approach women that they find sexually appealing" - not really accurate. men approach women that they think look good. and yes there is a difference between just being cute/beautiful and sex appeal. not every girl I talk to has sex appeal. but most of them are cute. and if I don't find them cute, then im not trying to get with them, its just casual talk.

im going to make this simple and direct, so don't try to look into it any deeper. and you can trust me on this , because I don't really have anything to lose or gain from spreading this info.

if a woman attracts a man, trough her body, sex appeal etc, that is what she means to him, nothing else. period.
you think that that's how a woman should attract a man initially, but that's the problem. if you do attract a man that way he is not gonna see you for anything else, everything else stops to matter.

men do approach women they find cute, that part is true but, you as a woman should try to show your other qualities in the beginning. when you first meet a man, or when you are attracting a man, do it without using anything that is sexual at all. and don't use your body for it. this way you create value in a mans mind. this way he will see you as someone who is more than just a sexually appealing person. now, there are some men who are complete animals, will only see sex no matter what you do, but you can understand that and avoid those dudes. but with most men with this approach he will treat you very differently.

basically what I am saying is not to play into it. definitely don't use sex appeal/body as a means for getting the mans attention. use your other qualities.
startingfitness

1 y
and this is why women with plastic surgery basically shoot themselves in the foot. they f*cked themselves. now they are never gonna be anything more than sex objects, no one is gonna take them seriously. plus its not even attractive.

its like a dude who gets fake biceps and fake chests. no ones gonna take him seriously he is a joke. women understand this, but they don't understand it when it comes to themselves.
Tiffany_Taylor_Made

1 y
@startingfitness: "men approach women that they think look good."

This is exactly my point.

Here was my previous quote in my answer: "Women want to be appealing enough for you to approach them because we understand that men have preferences for beauty. When we finally do get your attention using our looks, we expect men to be drawn to our personalities so that we can have lasting relationships with you."

The point that I am making is we want to "look good," as YOU said, so men can approach us. After you approach us, that's when we attempt to win you over with more than just our looks. If we weren't looking good, chances are great that you would have never approached us in the first place to give us the chance to win you over. If we approached you instead and we weren't looking good, chances are great that you would have rejected us for that reason in hopes getting with a better looking woman. I don't get how you don't understand this.
chris_987

1 y
Well I tend to agree more with the guy, like why would a woman who has plastic surgery have a good personality? Chances are she’s vain and spoiled, quite the opposite of humble, just like he said to you really thing a man that had biceps or chest implants has a good personality? No chances are he’s cocky and thinks he deserves the world, so why wouldn’t the same be true about a woman personality who get plastic? Girls who don’t think much of themselves in the looks department are the most humblest people so I know I’m not wrong.
startingfitness

1 y
I do understand it, I am not disagreeing with that.
you don't understand what I am saying.

don't put too much effort into looks. its not that important. you either look good enough or you don't.
if you try to just use your looks to attract men, you will fail.

you are doing this:
1. using looks to attract men.
2. try to show good personality.

fail

you should be doing this.

1. use your personality to attract men
2. repeat step 1.

men will see your looks anyway. don't try to show it off. it will only make men see you as a slut.

Answer 2

startingfitness

" When we finally do get your attention using our looks, we expect men to be drawn to our personalities so that we can have lasting relationships with you"

that's incredibly stupid. never expect men to be drawn to your personalities if you attract men with your bodies. never.

Answer 3

Tiffany_Taylor_Made

@startingfitness: Umm, what? That doesn't make any sense. I'm sure that it's the physical appearance that draws most men to women. That's what makes them want to be with them on a sexual level. After that, it makes sense to talk to that woman and uncover her personality to determine if she is compatible with you for a long-term relationship rather than just sex. People are not sexually attracted to personality. Personality is what forms connections with the person that you just happen to be sexually attracted to.

Answer 4

startingfitness

no that's not how it works at all. if a man only wants you because of your body , it will only be about sex period. it doesn't make any sense to you because you are a woman and don't understand men, although I think its not that complicated tbh.

if a man is drawn to you because of physical appearance that's all you are to him. and if you have sex after that, its sealed, its never gonna change. men just say bs and sweet talk to get into your pants but they don't mean that shit.
a man only sees more in you if you show your personality and he likes you on a deeper level from the beginning. and its necessary he feels this way before you have sex. that's how it works for men

Answer 5

startingfitness

basically men have different boxes. if we see a woman as a slut, she is a slut forever.
if we see a woman as being" for sex" we will see her as that forever. even if she gets married and has kids, the guys who knew her for being a freak will always remember her as that freak.

some guys can act respectful but some guys still try to shoot their shot because of this.
if you are seen as a good girl for a long time, then people might not believe it if they hear a rumour that you did something sexual or something you shouldn't have done. so you can work it to your advantage.
but you can go from good girl to bad girl ( if there is enough proof) , but never the other way around.

this is why you should never try to attract a man with your body if you want to keep him. you are setting yourself up for failure

Answer 6

Tiffany_Taylor_Made

@startingfitness: Well yeah. You're right when you mention that if a man ONLY wants you because of your body, then it would only be about sex. However, I'm not talking about men ONLY being interested in women for their body. What I'm saying is that the vast majority of men approach women that they find sexually appealing. Of course, men know if they find a woman sexually appealing by looking at her. That's why most women try to look their best when they go out, so they can catch men's eye. After that, they approach her and try to get to know her. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. The only men that approach women that they aren't sexually attracted to are those that are desperate. Any self-respecting woman doesn't want a desperate man. Just because a man wants a woman that he finds attractive doesn't mean that he only wants her for sex.

Answer 7

startingfitness

no I understand. and you get the basics, but you are not doing it right, ill try to explain this.
" the vast majority of men approach women that they find sexually appealing" - not really accurate. men approach women that they think look good. and yes there is a difference between just being cute/beautiful and sex appeal. not every girl I talk to has sex appeal. but most of them are cute. and if I don't find them cute, then im not trying to get with them, its just casual talk.

im going to make this simple and direct, so don't try to look into it any deeper. and you can trust me on this , because I don't really have anything to lose or gain from spreading this info.

if a woman attracts a man, trough her body, sex appeal etc, that is what she means to him, nothing else. period.
you think that that's how a woman should attract a man initially, but that's the problem. if you do attract a man that way he is not gonna see you for anything else, everything else stops to matter.

men do approach women they find cute, that part is true but, you as a woman should try to show your other qualities in the beginning. when you first meet a man, or when you are attracting a man, do it without using anything that is sexual at all. and don't use your body for it. this way you create value in a mans mind. this way he will see you as someone who is more than just a sexually appealing person. now, there are some men who are complete animals, will only see sex no matter what you do, but you can understand that and avoid those dudes. but with most men with this approach he will treat you very differently.

basically what I am saying is not to play into it. definitely don't use sex appeal/body as a means for getting the mans attention. use your other qualities.

Answer 8

startingfitness

and this is why women with plastic surgery basically shoot themselves in the foot. they f*cked themselves. now they are never gonna be anything more than sex objects, no one is gonna take them seriously. plus its not even attractive.

its like a dude who gets fake biceps and fake chests. no ones gonna take him seriously he is a joke. women understand this, but they don't understand it when it comes to themselves.

Answer 9

Tiffany_Taylor_Made

@startingfitness: "men approach women that they think look good."

This is exactly my point.

Here was my previous quote in my answer: "Women want to be appealing enough for you to approach them because we understand that men have preferences for beauty. When we finally do get your attention using our looks, we expect men to be drawn to our personalities so that we can have lasting relationships with you."

The point that I am making is we want to "look good," as YOU said, so men can approach us. After you approach us, that's when we attempt to win you over with more than just our looks. If we weren't looking good, chances are great that you would have never approached us in the first place to give us the chance to win you over. If we approached you instead and we weren't looking good, chances are great that you would have rejected us for that reason in hopes getting with a better looking woman. I don't get how you don't understand this.

If girls hate when guys treat them like objects why get implants and treat your body like an object?

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