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" When we finally do get your attention using our looks, we expect men to be drawn to our personalities so that we can have lasting relationships with you"
that's incredibly stupid. never expect men to be drawn to your personalities if you attract men with your bodies. never.
@startingfitness: Umm, what? That doesn't make any sense. I'm sure that it's the physical appearance that draws most men to women. That's what makes them want to be with them on a sexual level. After that, it makes sense to talk to that woman and uncover her personality to determine if she is compatible with you for a long-term relationship rather than just sex. People are not sexually attracted to personality. Personality is what forms connections with the person that you just happen to be sexually attracted to.
no that's not how it works at all. if a man only wants you because of your body , it will only be about sex period. it doesn't make any sense to you because you are a woman and don't understand men, although I think its not that complicated tbh.
if a man is drawn to you because of physical appearance that's all you are to him. and if you have sex after that, its sealed, its never gonna change. men just say bs and sweet talk to get into your pants but they don't mean that shit.
a man only sees more in you if you show your personality and he likes you on a deeper level from the beginning. and its necessary he feels this way before you have sex. that's how it works for men
basically men have different boxes. if we see a woman as a slut, she is a slut forever.
if we see a woman as being" for sex" we will see her as that forever. even if she gets married and has kids, the guys who knew her for being a freak will always remember her as that freak.
some guys can act respectful but some guys still try to shoot their shot because of this.
if you are seen as a good girl for a long time, then people might not believe it if they hear a rumour that you did something sexual or something you shouldn't have done. so you can work it to your advantage.
but you can go from good girl to bad girl ( if there is enough proof) , but never the other way around.
this is why you should never try to attract a man with your body if you want to keep him. you are setting yourself up for failure
@startingfitness: Well yeah. You're right when you mention that if a man ONLY wants you because of your body, then it would only be about sex. However, I'm not talking about men ONLY being interested in women for their body. What I'm saying is that the vast majority of men approach women that they find sexually appealing. Of course, men know if they find a woman sexually appealing by looking at her. That's why most women try to look their best when they go out, so they can catch men's eye. After that, they approach her and try to get to know her. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. The only men that approach women that they aren't sexually attracted to are those that are desperate. Any self-respecting woman doesn't want a desperate man. Just because a man wants a woman that he finds attractive doesn't mean that he only wants her for sex.
no I understand. and you get the basics, but you are not doing it right, ill try to explain this.
" the vast majority of men approach women that they find sexually appealing" - not really accurate. men approach women that they think look good. and yes there is a difference between just being cute/beautiful and sex appeal. not every girl I talk to has sex appeal. but most of them are cute. and if I don't find them cute, then im not trying to get with them, its just casual talk.
im going to make this simple and direct, so don't try to look into it any deeper. and you can trust me on this , because I don't really have anything to lose or gain from spreading this info.
if a woman attracts a man, trough her body, sex appeal etc, that is what she means to him, nothing else. period.
you think that that's how a woman should attract a man initially, but that's the problem. if you do attract a man that way he is not gonna see you for anything else, everything else stops to matter.
men do approach women they find cute, that part is true but, you as a woman should try to show your other qualities in the beginning. when you first meet a man, or when you are attracting a man, do it without using anything that is sexual at all. and don't use your body for it. this way you create value in a mans mind. this way he will see you as someone who is more than just a sexually appealing person. now, there are some men who are complete animals, will only see sex no matter what you do, but you can understand that and avoid those dudes. but with most men with this approach he will treat you very differently.
basically what I am saying is not to play into it. definitely don't use sex appeal/body as a means for getting the mans attention. use your other qualities.
and this is why women with plastic surgery basically shoot themselves in the foot. they f*cked themselves. now they are never gonna be anything more than sex objects, no one is gonna take them seriously. plus its not even attractive.
its like a dude who gets fake biceps and fake chests. no ones gonna take him seriously he is a joke. women understand this, but they don't understand it when it comes to themselves.
@startingfitness: "men approach women that they think look good."
This is exactly my point.
Here was my previous quote in my answer: "Women want to be appealing enough for you to approach them because we understand that men have preferences for beauty. When we finally do get your attention using our looks, we expect men to be drawn to our personalities so that we can have lasting relationships with you."
The point that I am making is we want to "look good," as YOU said, so men can approach us. After you approach us, that's when we attempt to win you over with more than just our looks. If we weren't looking good, chances are great that you would have never approached us in the first place to give us the chance to win you over. If we approached you instead and we weren't looking good, chances are great that you would have rejected us for that reason in hopes getting with a better looking woman. I don't get how you don't understand this.
Well I tend to agree more with the guy, like why would a woman who has plastic surgery have a good personality? Chances are she’s vain and spoiled, quite the opposite of humble, just like he said to you really thing a man that had biceps or chest implants has a good personality? No chances are he’s cocky and thinks he deserves the world, so why wouldn’t the same be true about a woman personality who get plastic? Girls who don’t think much of themselves in the looks department are the most humblest people so I know I’m not wrong.
I do understand it, I am not disagreeing with that.
you don't understand what I am saying.
don't put too much effort into looks. its not that important. you either look good enough or you don't.
if you try to just use your looks to attract men, you will fail.
you are doing this:
1. using looks to attract men.
2. try to show good personality.
fail
you should be doing this.
1. use your personality to attract men
2. repeat step 1.
men will see your looks anyway. don't try to show it off. it will only make men see you as a slut.
But that’s my point, you’re only getting implants because you put your self worth in your looks, so by you getting implants your telling the world to judge me based on my looks
The world will judge you for your looks regardless of what you do, who you are or anything else about you. And you will be treated first-hand by many people by how good-looking they think you are.
Appearance is very important in this world - and that is one of the biggest things that influence some women to get implants, other than personal interests.
So if she thinks that by getting implants she is making herself look better to the world, that's definitely a reasonable point to want to get implants - if it affects you like that.
A woman can get implants and have other redeeming qualities attributed other than appearance. Implants shouldn't make the be all and end all of who a person is, no matter what drives her to do it and what she wants the world to see her as. She is still a person - someone who is more than a one-dimensional image that implants enhance.
Appearance shouldn't be as valued in judgement as much as it is in society. Especially as a woman.
But it is.
So, getting implants can sort that out for you.
Basically, considering a woman to just be all that her implants make her is a very narrow view. But the world's gonna judge her looks anyways so 'why not look the part'?
Learning to love yourself is far better than changing your appearance to be accepted by society. If you wanna develop character. Something you should do is learning to block out the world, you’ll be a more well rounded individual.
I don't disagree. Not everybody sees (or maybe CAN see) it that way, though. It is not easy for many people.
Besides, if people are genuinely overall happier with alterations, I don't see why they should only be taken for face-value because of the extras. Those changes could help them be more comfortable with who they are as people and work to improve that too.
if a woman needs unnatural surgeries to feel comfortable with herself then, men aren't going to take her seriously.
if you wanna be taken seriously then you need to be comfortable with who you are.
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!Huh? I don’t understand what you mean. But the one where he refers to girl as an object had nudity in it and I didn’t want the question to get blocked
What did he say exactly that is making you think this surgeon is referring to his patients as objects?
Honestly it’s just odd that all these girls are getting plastic surgery to the point that they could die all so they could look good? You can’t say there anything wrong with men but overlook what girls do just for attention
Loving yourself is tricky because some people love themselves and think there better than everyone else, so I say be humble and just happy your alive, no need to compare yourself to others cause life will soon be over
Yeah but the majority of women who get plastic surgery are doing it to be noticed. Like if men get surgery to enlarge there penis, we wouldn’t be shocked that it’s all we would be know for, so why can’t a woman see herself the same way?
Because unlike men (according to you) women can be more than their sexual organs dictate 🤔🤨
If a man had an enlargement and for some weird reason chose to flop it out for everyone to see than it would STILL be incredibly rude to stare.
As children we’re taught not to stare or gawk at people different to the norm. That lesson does not go out the window because you happen to see a large set of breasts - surgically enhanced or not. I understand that’s a very foreign concept for you, going by your refusal to accept women who have had surgery to improve their appearance are more than objects for you to stare at but it clearly separates those with manners and social integrity vs “the creeps”
It only rude because women get offended by people staring, you honestly think that if a man had a large penis imprint in his sweat pants he would feel uncomfortable by women staring? Women can’t be creeps so it’s not the same.
It’s rude because it’s socially rude to stare. It’s rude to stare at people with a clear disability, it’s rude to stare at someone obviously struggling with a task, it’s rude to stare at someone with a deformity - it’s rude to stare full stop. Blatantly scrutinising someone to the point of their obvious discomfort then saying it’s your prerogative to do so because they’re attractive is socially retarded and there are absolutely creepy women just ask any attractive man with options
I’ve know women who thought they were ugly because men would even look at them so what you said isn’t true
listen, men aren't going to change.
äas far as we are concerned, women who change their appearance, do it for attention. and we aren't wrong. so if they get objectified thats on them. they should have known better.
@startingfitness You know I'm really not sure if that is the reason why. I'm starting to think it's more fear based.
@startingfitness except “wrong” here is a matter of opinion and just about every woman and a portion of the men agree that YOUR opinion is wrong. Your piggish tendency and refusal to acknowledge women who change their appearance as a personal preference is still an actual person and not just a pair of tits does nothing to make your personal opinion any more valid or truer than someone who disagrees
Well that doctor gave implant to women from all walks of life, I don’t know why a police officer would need implants but I’m not a woman and I’m ok with my body.
Obviously not but we get implants in the first place if you don’t wanna be seen as an object
ask someone who has implants and doesn't wanna be seen as an object because i dont think those are one person
But that like me wearing a police uniform and telling people to stop treating me like a police officer 👮
I don't know, if you have abnormal boobs and butt due to plastic surgery, and you decide to monetize it, your fame is only due to the surgery
Maybe.. but comparing a niche market of adult entertainers to a woman you might actually see in person is like comparing apples to oranges
Adult entertainment? You know there are regular women that are getting implants just so they can get more followers. I also thing that getting more attention from men could lead to them spending money to impress them
Yea.. women who have a steady income from modifications would probably be part of the adult entertainment industry
The girls in that video had regular jobs, one was a police officer, so why on earth would a police officers feel like getting implants? It’s not like it’s gonna help her catch bad guys
Maybe police officers (including female ones) have a life outside of their careers. Including a sex life..
Lol that was my point if a woman or a man decided to get surgery to enhance there body, it’s because they want to bring attention to that area to attract the opposite sex. Basically you saying hey look at me am I attractive now!
I’ve never heard women with implants say they’re ashamed of anything, much less their implants.
Umm Kim Kardashian still to this day swears her ass is real, same with Nikki minaj, lol the list goes on.
... are Kim or nicki good representations of women you’d typically see in your day to day life?
Every girl I know looks up to them, you think young girl are emulating Michelle Obama or oprah? No they look up to the strippers and the hoes of the world, so maybe you need to live my life and follow my group of people so you can see for yourself.
... sounds like you hang with a bunch of girls from junior high. I’m into hanging with people closer to my age range so can’t speak for who preteens look up to as role models.
Type in “slut walk” on YouTube and try to see if there any teenagers in those videos. Yeah girls really want to be hoes without judgement.
Perhaps you’re right about how a minute amount of women will participate in things like the slut walk. However, that in no way can be applied to all women, or the majority of women.
I can prove that it’s a large enough amount of women to effective men negatively but I guess it wouldn’t matter
If you can provide some statistics from actual scholarly sources, I’d be more than happy to take a look!
Lol I don’t have statistics it’s just a hunch I have, I’ve noticed that girls in more populated cities want to be more promiscuous, but girls in smaller towns want to start a family and see no shame in being a house wife. I live in a big city so I see a lot of angry women, there not femine at all
"Wants to be respected like a person"WOW I did not know women are object that want the right of a "real" person. Honestly how can you think that about women?
@LittleSquid interesting interpretation, little clown, get lost.
On the real though, I didn't say that at all, a woman is a person that OFTEN ENJOYS being treated like an object, and that is on y'all. When a woman is in the mood to be treated like an object, she will only respect those that treat her that way. Just observe the world, see the truth in my words.
Yeah and it’s not like women wouldn’t just reduce a guy that got implants to an object so I don’t know why they’re acting so hypocritical
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