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Girls do you ever feel like men don’t respect you and that they view you as a piece of meat or do you not feel that way often?
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- My answer is a bit different than the others that I have seen here. My girlfriend and I have actually talked about this and her view is a bit different.
Just to start, my girlfriend and I have lived together for almost 15 years. We are not married and have three children together. So we have been in it together for the long term and the truth is, I love her with all my heart. I cannot imagine my life without her or the three little gifts that she gave me.
In terms of our social and romantic life, she says that I have never treated her anything but with respect and courtesy and love. Certainly we have had our moments - as all couples do - but I have tried to show her the love and gratitude I feel toward her and this she says I have done.
The funny part is that our sex life tends to be rather raw. We have a very natural sex and my girlfriend says that when we have sex she wants to - generally but not always - feel like little more than a piece of meat. She wants to be used and feel that her naked body is there for my use. That all she exists to do is to service me and accept my sperm and bear my young.
The reason for that though is kind of funny. She says she wants that because it allows her to see me reduced to my most instinctive and animal. That when I am that way she is seeing not the thinking me, but the raw animal me and that I am reduced to my most base self and she thinks that is sexy and attractive in its way.
In fact she jokes that when I am like that I am controlled by my penis, and that is true in a way. I love her, but all I can feel is my instinct to be inside her, mating with her and feeling that we are nothing but two animals breeding in a field - and she likes that.
So a little different answer. It is not the way she wants to be treated every day and I emphatically do not want to treat her as a mere piece of meat. However, in our sex life, we generally - not always, sometimes we want love making and not animal breeding - want to be reduced to our most base self.
It lending itself, oddly, to the most instinctive giving and sharing of our naked bodies. We then being in a way our most honest and open to each other. Raw, instinctive, naked and the whole universe just shrinks down to the two of us and nothing else.0|10|0Is this still revelant?
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- The truth is, every woman, no matter who she is and how she dresses will be looked at as a piece of meat by men. WHAT REALLY MATTERS is how a woman projects herself. If she is the type of woman who dresses provocatively, then she is in NO position to lecture people about respect and not to see her as a piece of meat.
A woman who conserves herself, dresses classy/professionally and is well-mannered will not only lessen the odds of getting unwanted attention, but also has the right to expect respect.
If I walk in a ghetto flexing my Rolex (which I don't have lol), I shouldn't be surprised I get mugged.
So ladies, it is up to you. What you project out in the world is what you will get.1|30|1Is this still revelant?My thing is, I don't exactly advise going near naked everywhere, but at the same time, I have a huge principle of freedom and if it's 110 F, if a girl has the most skin showing outfit possible, no, I'm not going to judge, simply because I'd rather less people sweating all uncomfortable. Just like I don't judge a guy for jogging with a shirt off. Especially in this society, remember, if we start expecting girls to cover up 24/7, what is then going to be imposed on men? Are we going to have to be all the time in stuffy suits like in the 1800s? No thanks. Remember a huge reason the founding fathers were grouchy af when the constitution was being drafted was cause society deemed it necessary to make everyone cover up 24/7. A bit hotter and perhaps it would have delayed things or even killed one of them and changed the course of history.
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@errorgoodnameunfound You're speaking from a idealistic point of view. Facts and reality remain. Women who show more skin than necessary will risk getting cat-called and be objectified more often. That's just how it is. Therefore, it is important to act accordingly. There are women who love the attention and those who do not. No one said a woman should cover herself 24/7. It won't stop the objectification if they do not cover. Plain and simple.
Oh no I'm not arguing against that. I know realistically they'll get catcalled and such even in modest clothing sometimes. What I am saying is that if a woman wants to go wearing whatever, I am not going to encourage or stop her and in fact, I've been the one to tell guys around me to stop with the catcalling already because it's stupid, pointless, and draws unwanted attention. I do what I can to encourage guys not to be simps and worship pussy, but women don't always help themselves with it, that's for sure.
But anyways, I do think guys need to take a stand and encourage each other to stop worshiping pussy because not only do girls feel uncomfortable from it, it's also used to push the notion that guys are basically just horny dogs and little more. I don't think any guy wants to be seen as little more than a horny dog.@errorgoodnameunfound Exactly. Women can wear whatever they want, they just have to suck up to the consequences. I'm also actively shaming simps and educating those in real life to stop becoming one. Funny enough, some of them listened, opened their eyes and start to see progress in their dating life. These simps just need a push in the right direction. It's sad what has become of today's "men".
Good on you. I wouldn't necessarily blame younger men by default, as they can't help how they were raised, but yeah, when the simps don't fucking understand the evidence right in front of them, it's quite fuckin annoying.
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- I certainly wouldn't generalize them all, but yes, I've been treated as if I was an object by certain ones, and I very much believe both of my exes only saw me as an excuse to tell people they had a girlfriend, and since we were friends and knew each other well before dating, there was less pressure to ask me. I don't believe at all that I was ever special to either one of them (of course they said I was, but actions and words are two completely different things, and people will do what they want, but say what they think you want to hear).
Thankfully, I've found that relationships aren't my thing and don't really have to deal with it, other than the occasional guy hitting on me not liking it when I politely reject his advances and either calling me a bitch or wishing me death (thankfully, the latter only happened once). The real disappointment, though, is when you think someone of ANY gender, friends included, is going to be a great addition to your life (and of course, they're always on their best behavior in the beginning), then their true colors start to show and they're either trying to use you, are changing into someone you don't recognize (or more likely, are taking down their facade), or turn out to be extremely self absorbed. Honestly, this type of stuff is exactly why I don't get close to many people anymore, and then of course I get a bunch of crap for not immediately opening up to everyone and wanting to be bestest friends ever right off the bat. 🙄1|40|0Is this still revelant?I've always believed that if someone is looking for companionship, honesty, always there for you, loves you unconditionally, understands you - then get a pet (dog, cat, etc.)
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- Some do, some donāt. Thereās one guy in my town who thinks heās entitled to me and keeps trying to get in my pants, and we have a mutual friend and we live in a small town so unfortunately I have to deal with him from time to time. Thankfully itās easy to separate pigs from decent men, but really though unfortunately some women respond positively to that behavior so these men just think ALL women must like it.
I hate being catcalled, but I also just ignore it when it happens and donāt say anything.2|20|1Is this still revelant?Totally agreed. Some women think these behaviors are flirting. It's actually sexual harassment.
Well, one thing I learned is if someone you've got to know for some time does it once and you ignore, he will keep pushing on you. You'd rather tell him right away the first time he disrespects you that you don't like how he treats you. For strangers, I think it's safer to ignore them.
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5425- They say you get treated the way you get treated because you allow yourself to be treated that way.
Very often women are being seen/treated as a beautiful piece of meat with a hole because they allow themselves to be treated in that exact way because they project such an aura (appearance wise, behavior wise, action wise, thinking wise).
So if you don't like it, then do something to change it. It is a very infamous opinion of mine and I will get a lot of hate for it from the pinks but unless you want to solve this problem and stop being seen as an organic sex toy on legs, you really shouldn't complain about it.1|50|0Exactly. I just love the hypocrisy that they complain about getting objectified while they themselves are also to blame for this. They can't seem to comprehend that if they wear revealing clothes and or behave a certain way, they attract those who objectify them. While a woman who does the opposite won't have to deal with such behavior as much
@TruthBringer Simply put and the truth - dress like a slut, be treated like one.
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@Tiffyk That's indeed an issue. Even young girls get harassed. No underaged girl should experience this, especially not from older dudes with no manners. Yet, it doesn't take away truth of what we said. It's mostly in the hands of women. Every woman will get catcalled regardless of how she carries herself. But others more due to what they choose to wear.
@TruthBringer Sad but true.
Even it's their mommies. Some men can't keep their mouths closed.
- Almost all the time. 80% of men approaching me talking about it or my body right in my face, strangers and acquaintances. Friends? I don't think I have one now since if they are my real friends, they must know I'm serious about having a relationship. They should tell other male friends too that I don't hookup. However, some mutual friends asked if they can have it for free. Most of them are married or not single and said they want a side piece.
It's really disturbing and disrespectful to me and their partners. I decided to cut contact of them all. The more I was exposed to these people, the more depressed I was. Good thing people on here are well-behaved, and prefer conversing like real human beings. I feel more as a person now.2|10|0 - If a woman doesnāt want to be objectified thereās a simple solution: wear more clothes & loose fitting clothes. This will eliminate at least 90 to 100% of the attention she gets.
Now before you attack me & claim that I am attacking the victim, imagine if all men wore virtual reality glasses & an app caused them to never see womenās bodies. I guarantee you that most women would then complain about how itās unfair their ārightā to draw eyes has been restricted.
The future will be hilarious0|10|0 - Yes I do sometimes, for example, a month ago I was walking over the road to get takeaway for my family, I wasn't wearing anything tight or pushed up, Just a plain Jeans and T-shirt. Two men in a Mercedes rolled down their window and catcalled me.
It then happened the next day in a pair of jeans and boots, it's unavoidable and makes me feel like all I'm worth is the fact I'm a woman.0|10|0be proud of the fact that God made you a woman and keep covered up so that those men do not take advantage of you
Hi old bitch. As you see I was covered up in only jeans and a shirt. Go bible bash somewhere else
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Even so, women shouldnāt HAVE to cover up especially a teenage girl. Men shouldnāt cat all women or children.
- Well itās usually the older guys and the guys who see while walking on streets.. who try to catcall and sexually objectify you. But there are so many good guys out there who can talk decent and give complete respect for who are. So itās safe to say.. not every but yeah here and there.3|60|1
Anonymous28 di had only 1 boyfriend in my whole life and as soon as we had sex, he pretended to love me a few weeks after and then just said he didn't feel anything for me at all. like from one week telling me he loves me to all of a sudden he doesn't feel anything at all.. that's not possible.. this only indicates the love part was not real which is why he doesn't feel anything anymore.. he used me and that's the only experience i ever had which has tainted me and sadly has made me scared to ever love anyone again because it hurt me so much and i don't trust anyone anymore.0|10|0- yes I have and that is because I have been physically and verbally abused by my male ( not men for men do not abuse women ) dates so much that I became a male basher ! then I grew up and realized that these men were not men but little boys in mens bodies ! now I have two men that seem to be interested in me and I just hope that they are men and not future boy bullies2|20|0
- There's a name for those type of men, they are called pigs, and with a decent head on your shoulders, can be avoided more often than not. I know this question was directed towards girls specifically, but wouldn't hurt if I put my two cents into the jar...2|20|0
- Anonymous29 dWhat Yads_Is_Back said.
I respect people who are respectable and who deserve respect. I treat everyone respectfully until they give me a reason not to, but I do not respect them if they don't deserve it. That is a significant distinction.
In my experience, the majority of western women today do not deserve the respect of men. They have not earned it. Women of the past were much more worthy of respect than today's women, who are largely weak, entitled and self-centered. They want privileges without responsibilities. They want to enjoy all the advantages men have have historically had but none of the disadvantages men face. They are hypocritical and lack empathy for any males except their loved ones.
As a whole, the character of women has declined substantially in the last several decades. Why would men respect them? Why should they?1|20|0 - Definitely, and that is the big majority of men, of all ages. In my case, sadly, it is the older guys who have treated me with more respect. I don't have a fame of going to clubs, bars, etc, but the contrary. Yet, as I have been blessed with a good body I would get approached, catcalled or looked up and down often. Even stalked. It is really annoying and certainly makes dating difficult. Most of guys don't care about the person.1|30|0
Now you make me wonder if the old guys got that way because of experience or if they were always respectful.
Iām the latter.
- Guys are hornier and more sexually focused than girls. So it makes sense that they view girls as sex objects more often.
Think about a person starving of thirst in the desert with no water who spots a pond. Is he going to respect the ponds ecological balance and diversity? Or his he just going to drool like a rabid wolf until he gets a drink?3|20|0@EyesOfGod Which one? There will be a day you'll get bored of it? I did since many manga/anime these days start the story with a naked girl on the main make character's bed. Very creative.
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@EyesOfGod Oh I just watched some eps. I used to like them until the plots are repetitive. Well, I think many "harem" genre are fine and focus on how a male character actually cares for only one woman. Other females who are not the main one are to help him grow. Eh? I like "Tales of Wedding Rings."
@RingOfFire I'm sorry. Lol.@el_Te_de_la_Rosa
No apologies needed. I learned something about something I knew nothing about from your conversation. Those things are not from my generation, but most of the stuff you are talking about always seems like soft porn characters to me. It seems very sexualized. But maybe that's just because I'm a guy. ;-)Thank you.
It is. Girl's comics bore me. I found them really illogical because I don't understand how women in the fictions fall in love that way. So I turned to boy's comics, and I learned how men fall in love. Of course it's mostly lust. There is a term "fan services" - Boobs, booties, panties scenes. It's sexualizing women. Still, good stories are not only full of those pics. Male characters need to improve themselves to win over their crush as the story goes. Alas, some of them are nothing but perversion.
- Most people don't just view each other as just a piece of meat.. Men or women.. Objectification and lust are more correct terms which men and women both do it a lot to each other and to women.. I don't know why women act like they are "innocent" a lot of times..1|21|0
- Sexually, I do feel like a piece of meat to my partner. I can't blame him. 24 years of porn has him viewing sex through a phallic lense. Men just aren't brought up to appreciate the feminine side of sexuality. If he's a great guy tho, he'll let you teach him 😉1|10|1
- I think people can see you as an advantage, meat or something to play but it's not because they're men. It's because they don't know (or they don't care) about respect.
Some people will want your body, some people will want your skills, your work, your company, your popularity.
It's just a type of person that is really common and unfortunately this stereotype has been related to men for a really long time.1|10|1 - Yes and no. Some guys are respectful just like some guys arenāt... like today. I was at the gym on the bench doing incline dumbbells bench presses and a guy walks by me and literally looks at my crotch bc my legs were spread apart. Like thatās just creepy and disrespectful. So yeah some guys view woman as meat but it goes both ways some women view men as meat also. Itās not everyone thatās like that but some are.0|10|0
@NorthShoreCalling the world will be fine without mothers too. Civilization will in fact prosper and advance more rapidly.
The only thing women contribute is turning is gender studies majors and daytime talkshows about how much they want to cut off penises.
- I feel like a piece of cake by most guys, so I've started to view them as pieces of meat too. Sounds horrible, but when you care too much it's easier to let go if you're just viewing them as meat/cake.
There's this one guy I like, we fucked, he's still a friend of mine, but if I delve too deeply I know I'm going to be hurt, so if we both play it so we are both meat/cake, it hasn't affected our friendship.
Sometimes it's easier so you don't catch the feels0|10|0 - Guys generally respect me because I give them something to respect and I also demand it.1|111|1
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First of all, I earn it (sometimes fail, but overall I do try my best... all human š¤·āāļø). I respect myself and give other people reason to respect me. In the case with men, I don't go flashing everything I have or seeking attention with it and then asking them not to look at me in a sexual or disgusted way because that's stupid and it's not my world. Respect and ethics go hand-in-hand.
And to demand it, obviously it is to be demanded, as long as obviously you give a reason for it to be. Either the guy shows me respect or he doesn't communicate with me. I won't tolerate a disrespectful man. If you're gonna have any part of my life then you're gonna respect me. For example, I don't have sex with every man I meet and I refuse to, and it saves me a lot of problems that many other women now run into here in the U. S., although where I'm from ethics are a lot more appreciated than in America. So the majority of my ethics (and morals but will avoid religion topic here) come from how I was raised, but I'm thankful for it.
I respect myself, and I know my value, and as long as I'm not in a stuck-up moment (lol I'm human, it happens, let's be honest here) then I expect the guy to both know his own value and also to appreciate mine by his actions.
And I'm not good at explaining this in words at all, so I hope that answered itI notice many guys stop trying to have meaningful conversations avoid getting to know her when she quickly has sex or shows herself to him naked or in revealing clothes. Guys keep it sexual after that
@Kit_Kat88 And it's understandable. I mean, if something is easy then why even put up a fight lol
@Yads_Is_Back FINALLY a woman who gets it. You can't expect respect if you dress like an escort. It doesn't work that way. Both men and women who dress and behave in a self-respectable manner deserve respect. A woman who flashes her assets is far more likely to get cat-called than a woman who dresses classy/profesionally.
I don't even think you need to demand respect. I believe it will come to you with ease from the right people. Anyone who doesn't respect a woman who is a bit more conservative is a fool (given that the woman isn't oozing toxin from her personality and words like some virgin "Christian" girls I came across on this website)
- Not really. I donāt sexualize myself. Plus I surround myself around good and educated men. The only times Iāve been sexualized was being catcalled on the streets.1|40|0
- Well I believe that how a woman presents and carries herself speaks volumes to how men will treat her. But there will always be those guys that view women as bodies, but I don't see them as men.3|21|0
- Men never approach me for sex unless they donāt know me cause the ones familiar with my personality know they will never get sex from me without marrying me2|10|0
- I didnāt feel that way until I starting trying to move up in my career. I found it a lot harder to be taken seriously for the same work my male counterparts did.2|10|0
- Women do the same but for two: they see men as walking wallets (women at least dont need to pay for sex, company or fetishes) and women also see men as meat, for example it doesn't matter if a giy is handsome, they objective a man just for the penis size, and the height0|30|0
Girls don't really care about dick size and if you're being used for money it's bc you are dating out of your league
- Anonymous29 d*walks around in tight leggings with "juicy" written on ass*
"goddammit why don't men respect me im just being comfy!"2|60|0 - As someone who spends a decent amount of time with guy friends, they respect me and I know my partner does... however I have met people that do seem to look at me like a slice of meat and it pisses me off0|10|0
@FearlessGoat I'm not a big fan of steak, so I accept this so I'm not a cannibal XD
- I am sure we all feel that way from time to time. And I certainly have in the past. But now I don't notice how others react to me since I'm happily committed for 16 years1|10|0
- A lot of time definitely feel diarespect, with catcalling, staring at me way more thqts normal like maniacs, not listening what i have to say and juat like creeply smiling n nodding... Frustrating0|10|0
- they do, but they actually disregard feeling this way when you take them out on dates and feed them free dinner or when they simply know acting like a piece of meat to you is gonna get them rewarded somehow0|10|0
- I know plenty of guys that are like that. But most guys in my life arenāt like that.3|30|0
- I am friends with a bunch of men and they are all great people. However that doesn't mean complete strangers won't take time out of their day to treat women like crap.0|10|0
- Lol... being an s/m sub that would b kinda difficult to answer objectively but I think some guys are like that yeah1|10|0
- It's a shame to see some of the female responses here, that they view merely being talked to or sexually desired makes them "meat"-worthy. What a sad and strange way to view life and the world.0|30|0
- Yes I do feel that way sometimes. they don't know the difference between being friendly and flirting. Like dude I dont want u I'm just being nice🙄 sit tf down1|20|0
- Yes, all the time. I know there are good guys out there but Iāve only ever met one.1|40|0
- Course they do because all they want to do is take and take never give and when the taking stops it's "you don't respect me" "you treat me like a piece of meat" if they're feeling more devious they'll say your verbally abusing me your scaring me.1|10|0
- Yes... im married and it seems like I only exist when he wants to hit it lately. Other than our late night amazing sex life I'm just the bitch that works, cleans and takes care of the kids... kinda sucks!0|10|0
- Anonymous28 dYes. One dude told me things like, "I'm not using you for sex" while he pressured me to have sex with him. Another boy that swore he "loved" me was asked the question "do you only care about one thing? (sex)" during a socratic seminar.. and he answered "yes" LMAO. Another boy said he "loved" me.. but he didn't even fucking know me or my last name. But to be fair, most high school boys are trash. 10/10 wouldn't recommend. Unless your intuition is spot on. I guess mine wasn't at the time.0|10|0
- Yeah but if these guys never got laid would they keep acting that way? More women fall for this crap then they like to admit.1|20|0
- Yes, but I understand why sometimes. Im not saying it's ok to think like that but I get why some people do.0|11|1
- Definitely. I wear a fake engagement ring from time to time because of it.1|11|1
A friend of mine was a cashier at a major grocery store. When she got married and wore the ring, so many men hit on her. It's odd that it didn't happen that often when she didn't wear the ring though
- Yes, im always a piece of meat. Thats why I don't give them any attention.
But I've also met a few respectable men.0|20|0 - I feel that way when im actually acting chill towards them as a rarity for me to be.0|10|0
- Yes, guys only talk to me if they want sex. I ask them why can't we just be friends and they say guys can't be friends with girls.0|10|0
- In general, no. However there are times I do feel like that with certain individuals.0|10|0
- Not a piece of meat, but I felt like a piece of cake once.. when my partner poured chocolate sauce all over my body and licked it off0|11|0
- Yes, especially when you have a nice body. That becomes your only value to men3|10|4
@Tiffyk If ALL you have is a nice body, that becomes your only value. If you actually have a personality and substance you will be valued quite a bit more.
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looks like you haven't either, otherwise you would of known by now at 30 that the world is not perfect and fucked up people are everywhere. is the world we live in now.
and if you have travel by the way then why are you still living in this so called "douchy city?"@CasaNorba ha, listen boy, I've lived in almost every major city in this nation. I can tell you people are different everywhere.
Do you think a surfer in LA is the same as a mafia son in Brooklyn?
People are shaped by their environment. When I lived in San Diego, men were very respectful to me. When I moved to boston, it was the opposite. a lot of girls complained. They even call themselves "massholes"then why didn't you stay in San Diego then?
though that sounds like lots of sweeping generalizations alright. since I do got family and friends from Brooklyn and none of them are in any "mafia." so I guess someone needs to do real traveling cause it sounds like the only traveling you've done is change channels in your tv set@CasaNorba I just told you, the people of massachusetts generalize themselves. They know they are "massholes" and they are proud. Probably why they got bombed.
Well my family is old school brooklyn mafia. And I grew up in San Diego bc my dad's in the military. I can tell you Brooklyn people are nothing like San Diego. It might be more so now with gentrification, but the stereotypes were there for a reason.
And I stay in Trashachussetts bc the money is good. But I leave on weekends
- I feel this all the time. Like Iām constantly looking for someone who sees me and not just the way I look. Sometimes I wish I was just average and insignificant looking so that I could find my match easily0|10|0
- Depends on the man, but mostly older men and strangers act that way towards me0|10|0
- Just here mainly to read what women have to say about this topic.1|10|0
- I mean if she looks or acts like a slut i certainly will treat them like one.1|21|0
- Anonymous28 dSometimes yeah, depends on the guy but this definitely exists.0|10|0
- Generally speaking, guys don't view women as a piece of meat. How women get treated by men is brought upon by themselves.1|10|0
- It depends on the guyās behaviour. Some of them act weird and some of them act normally.0|10|0
- Women only talk to guys who they can get something out of, usually using them as an atm so hey ho swings and roundabouts0|10|0
- Can i just say excellently worded question and use of term. Same can happen for men dominated by a stronger female partner.0|10|0
- Anonymous29 dI'm sick of it. I am a person and my eyes are up here not down by my belt buckle. Haven't you ever seen a man who peed in his pants before?1|10|0
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