The fuck kinda school did you go to?
Young fella, aren't ya
Ohhh you grew up in the 70s? That makes much more sense 😅. My dad has stories about some "interesting" teachers from that era 🙄 no further questions lol
Different communities had different norms. I spent much of my childhood in three different counties and one of them was changing with the times in some ways while stagnant in others. Tje other two are pretty much still as I described in my response. If I went too the pool or swimming holes there with anything other than my birthday suit, they'd assume I'm an outsider visiting someone.
Huh.. Strange times.. 🤔
Ain't that the truth
Best part is that we look good, have better dresses accessories, makeup and long hairs.
I'll disagree with the pregnancy thing. I think that is a blessing I mean, women bring life into the world. There is nothing more beautiful than that. Everything else, I'll give you. Lol
@SirBearon that's because you have the blessing of never having to go through it. We barely get rights to our own body while pregnant, our bodies change for the worst a lot of the time after pregnancy, we miss work and can get fired for being pregnant, our bodies can get severely injured giving birth and we can die. You only THINK it's beautiful because you never have to go through it and the aspect of bringing a baby into the world seems like a dream, when the reality is, it can take everything from a woman to do so. And in places around the world, a baby girl can mean death for not only the mother, but the child.
That's an extreme outlook on pregnancy. I know plenty of women that love being pregnant. Plenty that have no complications. No stretchmarks. No body changes. I understand that problems do exist but your outlook is extremely negative. Just because it can negative doesn't mean it is.
That's the reality for magority of pregnant women. And it is negative, especially when you dont plan on being a stay at home mom
And ya, it's not as bad for SOME women, and they might like some things but you tend to try to look on the bright side when you have no choice but to be pregnant
There hasn't been a good history for females :-( But a giant shift is going on... in past millennia, women needed what men offered to help survival, strength and aggressiveness and such.But now those traits are marginal use at best in the modern world. And so it's becoming such that women hold the power.Just look at the change from how men a few centuries back regularly had multiple wives, to now many more men are reduced to pornography, which may seem degrading, but it's really a marginalizing of the male gender, a cheap substitute. It has become so much harder to woo and keep a woman.And so it continues to be more and more of average men will be marginalized to being a raging penis with no satisification while most women can choose and mix what keeps them happy.It may not be there yet, and many women in our time still suffer from the remnants of the past. But it's clear... look at the how the dynamics are in high schools are these days for proof... that women are moving up. It may be a bad dropoff such that older age doesn't see the benefits... but it's gradually becoming that the majority of females in their teens, 20s, and 30s are almost worshipped by the marginalized males who have biologically been wired through history to drive for the completion of a women to "make family with".
@losttravelers yes but it's also become MORE harder for women who never want to get pregnant. It's impossible to find a loyal guy who will support this decision.
You say that men wanna win women to keep them and make a family with. What if some women decided to never produce babies? It's so tough for them to even get accepted by a man forever.
@Anonymous I respect your feelings on this subject and liked your reply. I do not know if I can say I wholeheartedly agree with you though. I personally believe that pregnancy and motherhood is a gift. Women can not only carry a child inside them, but they can feel it grow and move inside of them. And sense the baby's emotions and make an unbreakable connection with the life they have created. They also know what it feels like to have another life be totally dependent on them for everything essential for survival. Which must give a mother (I imagine) an incredible sense of how truly valuable and fragile life is. In a way a man can only unfathomably imagine. Not to mention how incredibly sexy pregnant women get. I believe there is nothing more emotionally and physically attractive than a woman who is carrying your child! Even at their most dramatic hormonal ups and downs. In fact challenge men to not be scared, to not pull away from their partner in fear, but to embrace their partners, stay close with their partner engaging every breath, every milestone the mother and child cross. Connect deeply with your partner and I promise you, nothing in this life or in this world will ever compare to the experience gained and life long connection you will make with your baby and your partner. Set all other things aside during this 9 month period, jobs, cars, friends, homes can all be replaced, but nothing can ever give back the seconds, minutes, hours, or events that you miss giving your attention to these frivolous things.
@losttravelers I completely agree with your point of view. There is a major shift in power occurring between genders in the present time in our culture. Thus is precisely the reason I believe it is of utmost importance that we as men retake our place at home as providers and protectors of our family units. Setting all other replaceable things aside. Make our homes, family structures the priority in our lives. Bring back the order and bond into our homes and our family's heart's. I am not speaking necessarily suggesting from a religious standpoint and I am neither opposed to it as well. Our society has never been more divided by greed selfishness and false promises from those who wish to gain from the breakdown of our family structures.
@Bang5luts while I think you may have a fetish for pregnant woman, woman get told how ugly they are after birth way to much for that statement about how beautiful women get from pregnancy to be true. And sadly, reality doesn't allow women to just "push aside" their life. Bill collectors dont care your pregnant, most bosses dont care you're pregnant. And guess what, food and housing costs money. In this economy, you need to ha e two sources of income, especially if you're having a baby. And theybarwnt frivouls. Women are more than just mothers. You expect a woman, who put in effort, time, sweat, blood and tears into her career or where she got herself, and call it frivolous? Women are more than just baby makers we are police officers, doctors, lawyers and so on. We aren't selfish for wanting to do such things, and we understand that while you are such things, adding a child to the mix gets difficult. Its WHY being a woman birth and motherhood is a curse. And why men will NEVER understand, how much it sucks, because we have to literally give so much, for motherhood and still get treated like shit for it. Then when we do t want kids, get told how shitty we are for that as well.
@Mystic_Nova Maybe the women whom listen to the ones who fill them with negative comments and self loathing thoughts would stop investing their precious time into listening to insignificant, belittling people and their unenlightened, uneducated, negative, self reflective, social media forced thought proceses turned outward beliefs and stop smoking weed for a second so they can raise their I. Q. above 50 for more than a 2 hour come down period. Or at least enough time to realize that they have enough of their own god give brain power to think for themselves and come up with their own valuable knowledge and opinions. Than maybe they would realize we humans have found for more than a couple millennia that the family structure and our home is where our priority should be and where we derive our security, stability and strength from. And I guess you obviously didn't read the part right before I said anything about the word frivolous I had said. "In fact challenge men to not be scared, to not pull away from their partner in fear, but to embrace their partners, stay close with their partner engaging every breath, every milestone the mother and child cross. Connect deeply with your partner and I promise you, nothing in this life or in this world will ever compare to the experience gained and life long connection you will make with your baby and your partner. Set all other things aside during this 9 month period, jobs, cars, friends, homes can all be replaced," Maybe if you didn't skim my comments you could reply from a stand point of well thought value and importance.
What escapes me is how can a person demean or dismiss another person's view on how their own gender could assist in correcting the shortcomings and failures in our society for all to benefit from. By their own gender stepping up and accepting accountability and an active responsible role in correcting what is wrong in our society. By dismissing that person's view as being a fetish towards pregnant women? Maybe you have a fetish of complaining about things no one wants thi change by dismissing other people's ideas on fixing the real issues at the core of the problem?
That's. the. whole. point. You can't make everything see second rate when you have a baby. You act as if this reality is a dream world. Would it be nice if for some magical reason, when a woman got pregnant, the world can promise that you dont ha e to worry about a single thing in the world? Money, no probs. Work, nah, dont worry about it. The Favt is, life isn't fair and that being pregnant comes with high costs. And accepting accountability? People already do that when they choose to get pregnant and do what they can to raise it. The problem with your whole argument, is that you think that hugging each other and loving each other up will get rid of everything else in the world that you have to deal with. Bill's, food, clothes, you can't just up and run those for second. While supporting teachers other is good, which I agree, you make it seem like it is so easy to just forget about anything else None of what you think is possible, is crazy for what reality actually is.Reality, if you are pregnant in certain feildsx you risk losing your job. Reality, if you think bill collectors carebif your wife or you're pregnant, you're wrong. Yeah, family bonds is important, but loving your family only takes you so far. That's reality. You may not like its but that's the truth.
What is paternity leave?Paternity leave is the time a father takes off work at the birth or adoption of a child. This kind of leave is rarely paid.A few progressive companies offer new dads paid time off ranging from a few days to a few weeks. California was the first state to offer paid family leave. (If you work in that state, you may be able to take up to six weeks at partial pay to care for your new baby.)Source www.babycenter.com/.../paternity-leave-what-are-the-options-for-dads_8258Fathers’ involvement in and influence on the health and development of their children have increased in a myriad of ways in the past 10 years and have been widely studied. The role of pediatricians in working with fathers has correspondingly increased in importance. This report reviews new studies of the epidemiology of father involvement, including nonresidential as well as residential fathers. The effects of father involvement on child outcomes are discussed within each phase of a child’s development. Particular emphasis is placed on (1) fathers’ involvement across childhood ages and (2) the influence of fathers’ physical and mental health on their children. Implications and advice for all child health providers to encourage and support father involvement are outlined.Sourcepediatrics.aappublications.org/.../e20161128
Yes, there's a thing called surrogate mother's. They get paid to have babies and don't have any of the responsibilities of raising the child.
And guess what, all the while, Bill's still to get paid, and many places dont offer the paid maternity leave. So once again, you're agreement is once agian glaus. and please tell me when I mentioned that a fathers health or mothers health wasn't an issue. If anything you are proving me right as to why motherhood isn't that great. So that's nice of you, but once agian, you are proving my point. Also, a few ko ths, won't help a mother who gives birth. Ever heard of dropped uterus? Ever heard about internal bleeding needing surgery? How about hernias? All of which, a few months after birth won't help the mother and mothers have intact been fired when they didn't heal enough or fast enough. So once agian, you're proving my point
@SirBearon Yes and try an convince a lot of men to resort to that instead of having their "own" child, is complicated to a lot of people.
@Mystic_Nova I don't to dismiss or down play what you are saying in anyway. Indulge me for one minute. Maybe you might be able to better understand where I am coming from or at least understand why I might have this "Crazy idea" eventhough I can understand where your belief system and where your prioritized sense of financial responsibility stems from. I completely disagree with your view point. I believe much of society thinks the way you do. You are all way too focused on the what if's. Imagine this, if you had no job, if you had no money to pay bills, if you had a vehicle you bought from an auction for $300-$600. If you had no real worldly possessions of monetary value. What would these bill collectors take? Your Plastic knives and spoons? But imagine You had a loving, supportive, attentive, strong, protective, gental, loving partner whom who would never cheat, never leave you feeling empty or abandoned. Who was a provider, and who made your family you had built with this man his number one priority. Then imagine every single solitary family on this planet living the same way and imagine them all treating each other with the same respect they wished for themselves. How could this world go wrong? Take away the greed of those who have more than they could spend in 100 life times by simply not paying the $500+ a month car payment, +$200 insurance, $200 a month cell phone that collects and makes thousands of dollars from selling your personal information, the over $100 cable bill for tv your never home to watch because you're too busy working. Louvre your family, support your community and your neighbors
Would I have a job in this world of yours?
Yes if you wanted one why couldn't the father stay at home take care of the baby I mean a marriage or a partnership is a partnership because both parties are willing to give up things to make things work together for the better for all. Is it not?
No reason for him to give work either. Marriage doesn't mean both have to give up working is it not?
Also, if I had no money or job, i wouldn't be able to buy a car at an auction.
@Mystic_Nova I understand your skepticism completely. I just think that the way that we could fix all of this starting with what we know works for our society. I believe it's Denmark or maybe it's Sweden where the father takes off a year with paid leave to spend time with his family and new baby. I left seems to work for them they have a thriving Society
And a car of decent quality wouldn't cost that little.
Not real sure if the world you just described, I'm not being mean it just generally doesn't sound that... doable, like stable.
I only mentioned the car from the auto auction cuz I bought to yesterday for $1,000 and neither one of them have any issues
That deal doesn't sound doable either. If most doctors left to be with their families, that wouldn't be stable. Or if most lawyers, police, firefighters, etc. Dont know how an economy can even functionthat way, if anything, it makes me think that nobody would want to hire anyone married or having kids.
Well that's cool, but not everyone has that option. And if I could, I wouldn't have the money for it either way cause I'd have no job lol Also, I'd never be in a relationship where I didn't work. That's just not me.
Back to that scenario though, your bascally asking me if I had a partner who would bascally ride or die and try and support me and a family wed make toegther. And if I didn't have to worry for hills because he would take care if it? Honestly, I dont like it. I never grew with one spouse being the main source for income. Puts to much stress on them and I have to ask for money like a child does to their parents. Would I like a supporting bbn partner? Yes I would. However, it still comes down to us having to work to get things done. Bill's will always be a thing and things will always be have a piece attached to them.
I'm not here to argue with anybody or prove I'm right about anything. I only hope to exchange ideas that might somehow inspire a change to rectify or at minimum mitigate some of the damage done and currently disintegrating social and economic well being of our society.
I am going to bow out of this conversation, your fight is not with me. It is within yourself and your belief system. I apologize if I in any way disrupted your day or frustrated you further. I hope you enjoy the rest of your night. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and opinions with me..😊🙏
Great answer. Yes we all loose friends. It sucks your friends didn't understand what your were going through. True friends have your back through good and bad times. I wouldn't judge you on your period thing or mental health thing. Sonetines people don't understand until they are in somebody else's shoes
HUGS! You're so good to me!
YAY 🙋 Thanks for most helpful girl 😊
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I forgot to add to the worst things the emotional aspect. Women are driven by emotions, while men tend to be more logical. On the other hand, it is not such a downside when the world praises and encourages emotions so much
I basically agree with your thoughts except the “plus” you mentioned in the beginning... ready for sex. We are just if not more insecure as you men. Our bodies are never good enough for you in our minds. And yes we have a vagina that is open for access. Sex can occur whether we are wet or not or want it or not... it’s called rape. So no it’s not a “bonus” to be female.
@Mickey9999 Rape can happen to a guy too. My original point still stands, that if you WANT sex and find a willing partner, then you can have it. That's not the case for every guy, but it is for women in general
Another worse thing is every guy think they can hit at you, regardless of how much older or younger and no matter if at job or anything, not taking you serious.
How do you know a female orgasm is better than a male orgasm?You would need to experience both to know
Multi orgasms is what i am jealous of honestly
Borth lol.Men can have multiple orgasms too. Just take practice. We tend to just want to get off ASAP but it can be waaaaaay better than that.
I'm a man, gag won't let me message you. We (men) look at things differently. lets talk about that.