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- My girl! I was married with a guy for 7 years and we never signed a pre-nup. That chased me even in dreams and ended up ruining our marriage, because the man was obsessive with everything that belonged to him, even though I reaffirm and confirm that I didn't want anything from him. Long story short, I had to file for divorce because I couldn't live with that agony anymore. He even said that he had bad dreams about me taking everything from him. I said to him: "I don't want anything... I don't even want alimony as long as I don't have to see your pathetic face for the rest of my life". Signed the divorce, signed the papers giving up to everyone and wish him well. If you have to sign a pre-nup to get married, chances are this guy doesn't trust you and is a loser that will always wonder if you're marrying for love or for money. Or even accuse you of cheating and think that you gonna run away with your lover and his money. If you find that type of individual do yourself a favor and run as far as you can!0|01|2Is this still revelant?
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- Yes, actually. I might ask for it myself. For anything we made before marriage and got family involved in.
I don't think it is fair to screw someone and his family finances that were established before you come into the picture. If he had previous children or share a family farm, house, or business than only a bad and selfish women would refuse to draw a line between that money and money made after the marriage or between them too. Also, you can't legally take your spouse completely off your money. Prenups maintain fairness and protect tge rights of others. But growth happened to these joint assets and business as a direct result of the union or tge support of the partner are guaranteed. Prenups does not mean your partner gets absolutely nothing. But they get what is rightfully theirs only and don't banckrupt tge other.
My finances are well established and if a man comes into my life than I am asking for a pre-nup.1|20|0Is this still revelant?
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- HELL YESS!!! I would. Specially me having my own landscape business that I have build from scratch, hard work and dedication.
Now, it also depends what the pre-nup says don't want lose anything has to do with my business or my living and my automobiles.
If we have kids then yes I willing to help them directly. It wasn't their fault we split. I just hope we don't split I don't want to see them without a farther all because parents can't get along. I will try my best to understand her and I hope she does as well and get along.
Is it easy to find a female that will accept a pre-nup? NO. If I do. Oh hell I am not loosing that chance because I don't give a darn how much she makes. All I want is both love each other and spend wonderful times.0|10|0Is this still revelant? - Absolutely. Makes all the sense in the world for everyone. It’s unfortunate that the law has found a way to intermingle with romantic relationships, but this is where we are I guess. With that being the case, plus the modern divorce rates, which must be over 50% these days, everybody should legally cover themselves. I’d imagine there’s enough stress with a divorce as is, you don’t need to throw unnecessary arguing over money and possessions into it, and I feel like a lot of divorces end with at least one party feeling like they got screwed. Figure that shit out when you have a cooler head.1|10|1Is this still revelant?
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1030- yes after everything i went threw absolutely was married twice lost both houses $100,000 and lost my son in a ❤ beat the court system is all in favor for the women so a pre-nup is only way left for a man to have anything women k ow how to work the system to get what they want first wife i caught in bed with another guy my 2nd wife was doing prostitution so i asked her to leave she wouldn't so lies to court system puts a pfa on me got me throwed out of my house that i bought and paid for before i was married so absolutely!!!0|00|0
- I would sign one. But I'm still rather critical of them To me, it looks like something you do because you already expect the marriage to fail. Why would you expect it to fail? It suggests that both parties aren't fully committing, there are major incompatibilities that haven't been addressed, etc.
But since nowadays, it's so simple to divorce a spouse (even for completely ridiculous reasons), I've come to value the idea of a pre-nup (despite my qualms).0|00|0 - From a man’s position, pre-nuptual ageeements are worthless.
Courts throw out such agreements frequently.
The only defence that a man has is to not have relationships with women.
Here in Australia, a clause was added to the Family Law Act to invalidate all prenuptual agreements.0|00|0 - I would. Because one day when our parents pass away, eventually and most parents will divide some sort of inheritance to their children. If my parents leave me money and some girl gets married to me with this 1-2 yr commitment only to wipe me clean, well I have to protect my assets. It’s one thing if you buy a house or condo and split it through divorce settlement, but isn’t prenup about protecting your assets. If god forbid I did divorce a girl and we both put money down on a place and both paid the mortgage or car payments I don’t mind if that’s split.0|10|0
- No, marriage means we're sharing our lives together. I'm confident that I'll never stop working on my marriage. If I ever did cheat in her or something, and she decided to divorce me, I'd let her keep everything because it was my fault, but I don't believe I'll ever cheat on my wife. If she's divorcing me because she lost her infatuation or doesn't want to put work into or marriage, she shouldn't have even considered ever being married in the first place.3|00|1
Nor would I ever ask my fiance to sign a pre-nup. It completely invalidates sharing my life entirely with her.
Lol, literally, what is the purpose of marriage if its going be to the exact same thing as a relationship. Its illogical. If you think that's idiotic, that's on you.
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I would never marry someone to take the stuff from them. Obviously some people do. But if you don't trust that person implicitly, why are you marrying them in the first place. Why would you even desire a marriage? What the point of the marriage?
I hope I'm wife enough to discern who that person is before I marry them. I'm a pretty conservative Christian and I'm looking for a pretty conservative Christian and I'm waiting for marriage to have sex. I can't imagine someone would go through faking that through a couple years of courtship just to take my inheritance which I may not see for decades.
You seem to have a lot of confidence in your ability to determine evil motives in another person. I hope you are right about these things for your own sake. I believe in trusting people but also verifying.
@msc545, I appreciate your civility in this discussion. I was nervous people would think my question was judgy, but for me, it's a legitimate question. What's the point of marriage if in every sense it'll be exactly like a relationship. The other aspects of marriage that aren't in a relationship are so miniscule, I don't even think they're worth mentioning, but I could be wrong.
If you should get married with a prenup or without, I think you will find that marriage in many ways is significantly different than a relationship. At the moment the person I'm in a relationship with refuses to get married and says that she feels that marriage ruins relationships. In many ways I agree with her. I think it's great that you're taking the time to explore this important question.
Marriage is definitely illogical if you're going to sign a pre-nup. I even think it's illogical if you aren't religious. But being religious, I believe there is a spiritual aspect to marriage. If you think that's illogical, that's your God given right.
For many people apparently including you, spirituality is an important aspect of marriage that is not mentioned very often. If being married fulfills spiritual needs for you than that may be a good reason to get married regardless of all the other things that we've discussed
- That's the sad thing. Nobody trusts each other not even themselves. What a sad world. I wouldn't and nobody can judge because they truly don't know me well they can but that just would make them look stupid.0|00|0
Anonymous1 moYes because alimony is a bitch, assuming the courts even care if I sign one because I hear it is used as toilet paper when the divorce actually happens. I don’t plan on bailing on my future wife when she needs me most but I don’t want her to use something like that against me if she cheats on me.0|00|0- If you ain't no punk, holler we want prenup
WE WANT PRENUP
Or you know... Love your money and don't marry :D 1|00|0Pretty sure the median cost of a wedding is closer to 14k. Average is inflated because of several millionaires getting married multiple times lol
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I suppose. Still I rather invest that for a down payment for a property to either live in or rent out 😁True facts doe 💯. Although get that girl who come up with her own down-payment and make a trust (split 50/50). Will save you half the time and if you buy the house before the wedding, it won't count as marital property.
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- Why get married? What is the "Upside" for guys? I can't see one. . .0|00|0
- Under certain situations, sure. I'm a Dave Ramsey fan and he says that they're good if one person's net worth drastically outweighs the other. Like if my net worth were like 1.6 million and his was 56K... I'd want a prenup. 🤷🏼♀️0|10|0
I think that makes sense. Any other circumstance makes it feel like “well why are we even bothering getting married.”
This way you can still rest assured and hope you and your partner trust each other.
- Guys, judges regularly throw out prenuptial agreements, don't do it. 1|10|0
- Yes, but they are almost useless. A Judge in a subsequent divorce proceeding can nullify all or part of the pre-nup if he doesn't like it for some reason, and this happens far too often. Also, a pre-nup will not protect you against child support, which is how women collect the most money in divorces.1|00|0
- Doesn’t that mean u have to give them some money if y’all divorce? Cause if it is fuck no0|00|0
It’s a pre-arranged deal for that stuff. Otherwise the party who didn’t do the earning or the majority of it can clean you out in a courtroom with a myriad of other reasons for entitlement to their ex’s money, and the judge will just be like “no pre-nup? Cool, 50/50 split then.” If you DO get a pre-nup, you already have an ageeement that you worked out in happier times when cooler heads were making the decisions. If someone gets vindictive, or just plain greedy, you could get pretty well pillaged. No judge is going to settle a divorce with “you get everything, and you get nothing.”, barring any egregious conduct that caused the divorce. That would have to be agreed upon beforehand. So the smart thing is to figure it out in a pre-nup and protect yourself if you’re the higher earner, and it should be a sign of good intentions for the lower earner to agree to it. And at a time and mood like that, pre-wedding, a deal that works for everyone is very possible. “I’m going to be the sole earner, I’ll generate the income. But you’ll be a stay-at-home mom/dad, and cook and clean and shop, generally manage the household and any children, which allows me to focus on earning. Should we split, I want to keep X% of our net worth, but you’ve put in your own brand of work not quantified by dollars earned, and that deserves Y%, so you aren’t totally out on your ass, since you forfeited working yourself to benefit our family.” Without it, you’re leaving it up to a judge and the vindictiveness levels of your ex.
Wait so that does mean if u get divorced u still have to give them half of your money?
Only if that’s what you agree on. The highest risk of a 50/50 split would likely come in a courtroom in a case with NO pre-nup. In any divorce there’s going to be some division of assets. Nobody just walks away with what they came in with. Unless of course you had agreed to that in a pre-nup. You hash out everything ahead of time in a “what if” scenario. So let’s say you agree to a 70-30 split, for the sake of argument... if the time comes for a divorce, you’ve already agreed to split what you have 70-30, during good times. So just because someone’s mad about how things went, they can’t just say “I want half!” That will get thrown right out of court, they’ll say “you already signed off on 70-30.” If you have no pre-nup, it’s left up to a judgement call by a divorce court judge, and all they know is what’s presented. Your ex could have a better lawyer and they succeed in painting you as the “bad guy”, and the judge sides with them and you end up paying whatever they say, could be 70-30, and you get the 30.
So if you ever want to get married and you’re concerned about this, get a pre-nup written up with your fiancé. If you want to demand that you both walk away with the same balance of money that you came in with (but you’ll likely earn more together as a couple, and you’d still need to figure out how to split that), then you just don’t sign a pre-nup you don’t agree with. And if you can’t come to an agreement, either don’t get married or agree to leave it up to a judge one day down the line. It’s just better to amicably agree ahead of time to avoid that whole problem.- Show All Show Less
- I did not sign one before I got married. I would not if I were single and I am very strongly against people getting them.1|10|0
- Anonymous1 moYes if the woman I wanted to marry asked for one. I wouldn't dare push for one myself unless she was a lot richer than me, than I might want to give her peace of mind.0|00|0
- I like to think that my partner would trust me enough without needing one.0|10|0
- Yep, and tbh, I wouldn't marry a girl who refused to sign one.
Would make me feel like she's already planning her exit strategy.1|10|0 - No. I understand why the heathen needs to do it, but not me. I'm a Christian and will only marry a Godly wife who fears the lord.0|12|1
Your "Godly" wife can screw you over too if she wants to if you divorce. That's because she does not like you. How you like that?
@LilBonifide: God fearing and born again Christian women won't do such things. Marriage isn't meant for heathens, because they will simply destroy what God means to be beautiful.
- If you need a prenup you should be asking yourself why you would be marrying in which you have no faith or trust.1|00|0
- I wouldn't bother me.0|00|0
- Why would you object to a prenuptial agreement?0|00|0
Why get married in the first place. Marriage is about combining two lives into one. Not about continuing to be in a relationship that's no different than the relationship you were in before.
My primary objection to a prenuptial agreement is that it imparts a false sense of security to the people who enter into it. It is too easy for a court to nullify part or all of the agreement based on the whims of a judge who happens to not like all are part of the agreement. In my eyes at least this makes it virtually worthless or at least a very high risk.
Properly drafted and executed prenuptial agreements do hold up in court. I know because I have drafted prenuptial agreements and I've handled divorces in which there was a prenuptial agreement.
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Have you ever had a Judge nullify or change part or all of a Prenup? This has happened to two of my friends so far.
That seems to happen in the area where I live (LA) a lot. Judges here think they are experts on virtually *everything* including martial harmony apparently.
In Florida, judges are very deferential to prenuptial agreements, as long as both sides had legal counsel when they entered the agreement.
@msc545 I accept your word on that matter. I have no interest in visiting LA.
PS In the South, LA refers to Lower Alabama.It would be good to meet you but I would not subject anyone to LA. Lower Alabama might even be better!
So I have heard. I've also been to Cuba several times via Mexico, so I might do that again. Have you been there?
@msc545 Never. Have not travelled much internationally. Haven't done THAT much travel domestically.
My family has been in north Florida since 1790. We don't move very often and, when we do, we don't move very fast!@msc545 That is one I might enjoy if I had a companion who spoke Spanish. I have a fear about travelling, not knowing the language, and looking like an arrogant and stupid American.
I can't speak Spanish either and I've been trying to learn for 10 years. I think the language learning part of my mind is broken or is out chasing women. So I have the same fear. Luckily, almost all Cubans I met speak English!
- Anonymous1 moYes! Prenup + stay at home wife without an education is best combination, the prenup protects your assets from her being a golddiger who thinks she can divorce you and get your cash0|11|0
- Sure I would if you really love them that shouldn't be a problem0|10|0
- Yup, without a second thought0|00|0
- Of course, I'm not getting married without one.1|20|0
- Sure. I wouldn't need my ex-wife's money.0|00|0
- Anonymous1 moYes I’m very wealthy. Although I’d do it in a different method as prenuptial agreements aren’t actually legally binding in some places0|10|0
- Hell yeah, I'd be the one asking for one.1|10|0
- Yes I would sign a prenup no problem.0|20|0
- If you love him why not... prenup is nothing0|10|0
- Any honest person would.0|10|0
Or you know... Love your money and don't marry :D
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