Why you put these hashtags : #feminism#womensissues Men don't give a shit about feminism or women issues ! We rather deal with it individually !!! And that's the best real man trait !!! Don't define yourself by others.
I guess you are not able to grasp the point. Because you keep repeating my point.
Right, that is exactly what the take is about. The take is about stating what you think masculinity is. . . then seeking to embody those traits.
Feminism was not mentioned once. And was only listed as a hashtag because of the men who continually talk about how feminism makes them like they are not men anymore.
You can keep repeating it. . . pretending that is not what the take is about.
@RolandCuthbert Really !!! I just said don't define yourself by others. you sound miserable man that put his values to women opinions of him !!! Good luck kid.
that's not what the title is. I dont care for how/what men should be/act like. If ur an adult with cock, balls and ur sex chromosomes are XY then congrats cuz ur a man.
Madam, that is basically the title. I ask what are masculine traits of everyone who is visiting here. You don't what a man is or should be. So if you are not a lesbian, you might be in for a very difficult life.
the title is "what are masculine traits" alluding to the fact that this should be universal; when in reality all these traits you mentioned that "real men" should be is all subjective and this is pretty much all ur opinion. Hence why I stated you should change the title to "what men should be like ACCORDING TO ME" & not im not gay nor do I have trouble but thanks for the unsolicited warning
"the title is "what are masculine traits" alluding to the fact that this should be universal; "
Uhm actually no. I am asking everyone for what they think masculine traits are. As for saying "real men" of course it is subjective. This is my opinion. If you have an opinion perhaps you could share it. If you are afraid, then why not move on. Actually, why post in the first place?
Do you dispute that there are traits men embody more?
Either way, this is neither here nor there. The take is my opinion which I plainly state. And I ask the question of all posters here.
I posted cuz this mytake is retarded lol and I treat people as individuals, not tar people with the same brush. Also I didn't see you stating that this is all your opinion in ur take itself "They can't even articulate what they think a man is supposed to stand for." Why does a man have to stand for something? Also you stated you weretalking about "real men not jerks" so what does that mean, male jerks aren't men? Then what are they fam? unicorns? Lol can't play with me today? h i l a r i o u s man is that how you respond to legit criticisms? by petty insults? lol that's not very logical man, you don't even follow the shit you wrote on ur own take.
you failed to address anything I said and resorted to deflecting and attacking my age, colour me surprised. Just an fyi, I'm not threatened by your notion of "masculinity", just your stupidity
Yes, because it has to be your age that is affecting your ability to process facts. Men need to talk about what makes them men. They need to talk about their unique issues. They need to talk about their emotions and their challenges.
And they will do that here.
With or without your consent, care, tears, support or concern.
You simply don't matter enough in this conversation.
Well, you are here. . . whining about what we are discussing. And you are doing it just like you matter.
And while I can entertain input from women who are mature and show the intellect to understand the importance that men have these types of discussions, I am not prepared to listen to you. You think you can dictate to us what should be important to us when it comes to defining manhood. That's as silly as men thinking they can define feminine qualities and define what issues women should be concerned about or work on.
Essentially it is none of our business. And it is not within our experience. We are not women, we have not lived as women. We don't need access birth control pills to help regulate our periods. We don't breastfed children.
We have a different set issues and concerns. And trying to get in the middle of our conversations with your limited perspective does not help. It would help if you learned to listen to men when we talk about us.
oh my fucking god, you have the reading comprehension of spoiled milk. Literally all I pointed out was that defining masculinity is entirely subjective and the title of this mytake doesn't illustrate that hence my initial opinion. To quote what I stated earlier back when this mytake was even relevant lmao: "that's not what the title is. I dont care for how/what men should be/act like. If ur an adult with cock, balls and ur sex chromosomes are XY then congrats cuz ur a man" - which is a biological fact which I'm sure you can process right? Otherwise, when it comes to men describing what they think are "masculine" traits, I don't give a fuck. Also, another fyi, I don't breastfeed or use BC pills
Yawn. . . all you did was? Come on little have some courage to stand by your first post to me. As though I claimed to know what masculine traits were for every man. I don't. I can only submit my biased cultural subjective view. And I encouraged other males to do the same. Then here came you. A woman not willing to listen and who claims victimhood in a discussion between men about what traits make up manhood.
All you are doing now is jibber jabber. So what is your point? Why are you here?
And you say you don't breastfeed or use BC pills? Are you saying you are a man? Am I supposed to offer congratulations?
You may not have had children, you may not have breastfed, you may not take birth control pills.
The point is those issues you can have. I will never have them. I will never get pregnant. I will never take birth control pills. I will never breastfed therefore I will never have any of the issues/concerns that go with those objective facts of life.
claiming victimhood where exactly? I don't know where ur making this shit up from lol and if you could read properly, you'll have realized my initial response to you pretty much highlights the subjective nature of this question your mytake is addressing. All I'm doing now is repeating myself over and over again because you're too dense to comprehend something so simple. "And you say you don't breastfeed or use BC pills? Are you saying you are a man?" lmao smdh
Yes. . ."victimhood". What else do you call a woman, who thinks her ignorant opinions on manhood should matter in this conversation? Why do we have to care about what you have to say? Do you find that I am awfully opinionated on women's issues?
And I think it is just very revealing. Because you are not talking about anything. My take is subjective? Yes. . . the village idiot in the next town can see it is subjective. That's my point to other men. To come here and talk about what they think masculine traits are. Because men have to figure out how to be men, without the guidance of women's rights or lack thereof.
But you are so immature you can't figure that out. And you are so nonsensical, you are hard to talk to.
I can only arrive at the conclusion that this is not about discussion. You simply wanted some attention.
"the village idiot in the next town can see it is subjective." if that was the case, then this stupid conversation would have died out a long time ago (and it did) but you had to rehash this shit again so if anyone is looking for attention here, it's you. And holy fuck I've had to repeat myself so many goddamn times because if you could actually read, you would have understood that this ENTIRE time, my point has literally been that the title of your mytake doesn't reflect your intentions with said mytake (which you stated was for men "to come here and talk about what they think masculine traits are.") - so simple yet you're still too daft to understand. "Do you find that I am awfully opinionated on women's issues?" I don't give a fuck if you are or aren't and it has nothing to do with this convo, stop deflecting. And no, you evidently don't know what "victimhood" means.
So you do want some attention. Dude, if you stopped posting me yesterday, I would not care if I cared or not. Why in the world does the conversation have to die out little one?
Why do I have to care about what you are saying? You can't tell a man what masculine traits are. That's the simple point.
You are not a man.
Men must discover what masculinity means for themselves, independent of any input from women. If that wasn't clear to you from reading the my take it is only because you lack reading skills. Even the men who disagreed with me, read the take.
And I didn't post you. You posted me like you are important in this conversation. You are not. You are just a little girl, who can type out profanity laced posts. Oh my. . . so shocking!!!
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I mentioned women's issues, because I don't have women's issues. There my opinion on is not needed nor is it wanted.
That is not a deflection. That is called truth. When you mature, you will understand.
@ThisIsMyOpinion I don't know if all men should aspire to what I listed. But I wanted to have a conversation about what the different men at GaG thought were masculine traits.
@ThisIsMyOpinion You misunderstood; You said: "They are not subjective. Men are suposed to be like this. Or at least they should" to which I said: "according to you" referring to the traits outlined in this mytake are what men should be like ACCORDING TO YOU. Ergo, my point still stands that the entire nature of this is subjective. I don't understand how anyone would fail to grasp this unless they don't know the concept of subjectivity.
I understand what you are saying, but I don't agree that this represents what men should be according to me, it is simply the reality. This is how men should be and... ya this is how men should be.
I mean look at the traits mencioned here... How can any of them be up for debate if a men should have or not.
I know each person has is opinion and this is mine, that is why you say the entire nature of this is subjective. That each person has is own defenition of what a men is.
The point is since I can't understand how can anyone argue that any of the traits souldn't be part of a men I fail to see how someone can have an opinion diferent than mine. I know I sound narcissistic and probably an idiot.
@thismyopinion You really don't have to engage her. She isn't here to discuss anything.
The take turned out to be a monumental failure. Probably over half the guys who came here disputed the fact there are even masculine traits. The funny thing is you will find those same men complaining about beta males, feminism, manliness being outlawed, etc. all over the forum.
And the reason is, they feel less masculine when women assert themselves because they feel their power and their definition of being a man only as it relates to women.
And I guess some women with bad intentions realize that basically means, feminism defines them. So they take advantage of that.
I don't understand how some people can say these are not men like characteristics or even feel less masculine when women assert themselves. But oh well
It was a good take. I liked it a lot! Too bad it failed. Still props to you for making it
@OP Lolllllllll that's funny coming from the guy who resorted to deflecting via posting shitty memes and attacking my age in response to my criticisms.
lol no, the only thing you proved was that you can't handle criticism by calling those that oppose your opinions as "attention seekers" like a fucking petulant child.
I'm not worth your time and yet you've wasted so much of your precious little time posting shitty memes and childish insults to my opinions. Fucking LOL Wanna point out how I don't understand the conversation? Will you actually respond back intelligently or just continue on with your deflection tactics? Gee, I wonder. And holy hell, guys worrying about feminism makes me feel powerful? lmao that doesn't even make any sense. The only thing "powering" me right now (so to speak) is your idiocy.
You folks seem to get offended because I state what I think are masculine traits. . . as though I claimed men have exclusive ownership over these traits. We could share some with transsexuals. . . that doesn't make them men. Neither does that make us transsexuals. So if you disagree with the list. . . state some traits you think embodies manhood.
You don't see me in some feminist thread telling feminists what it means to be a woman do you?
I'm not offended by masculinity just the things that u mentioned goes well with men and females I guess being a men is more about bring then describing u can't say women r not brave enough strong enough and these r just for men these r for all confident strong human beings men does that and make them manly and women does that and make them confident women u see
Blue man group. . . I didn't see your post. Just letting you know. . . that has nothing to do with defining masculine traits. If you are trying to say that you define masculinity through watching a bunch of youtube videos, you might be a little crazy.
You see. . . being a man, I don't really do the whole emotional thing. I am not being insulting. I am just telling you like it is.
When I listed male qualities. I never said they were exclusive. I said these were qualities that I think embodies manhood. And I encourage everyone, but mostly men, to come here and talk about what qualities that they should be associated with manhood.
Do you have any that you wish to list? Or was this just one of those "drivebys"?
All humans have both masculine and feminine within them. Men just tend to more strongly hold masculine traits and fewer feminine traits, while women on average the opposite is true. The guy made a take about Masculinity, which isn't specific to men. It's just related to men because men tend to be more masculine than feminine on average. But there are a lot of women that are definitely more masculine. It's just not polite to talk about it, because people get offended.
If you say a butch lesbian is any less feminine than say a more mary poppins type woman, then someone is going to get upset. Because they want to say having a vagina makes you feminine while at the same time say sex has no baring on your traits as a person. Ie. masculine and femine. Lol it's just silliness.
It'd be like him making a post (with men in mind), when talking about weight lifting. Yea, it's not exclusive to guys. But obviously of those who lift weight the vast majority are going to be men.
@rjroy3 Hey that is a great way of explaining it. I don't know why certain folks have an issue understanding "masculine" traits are not exclusive to men. They are not owned by men. Men simply embody these traits more.
Karahiri, that is "your" experience. I don't know way more women who embody these traits. I know a lot of women who think they embody these traits. But they do not.
Yea, personal experience doesn't dictate the external reality of the overall population. That's fine if you happen to know more women than men like that. But on average men tend to hold more masculine traits. Just how it goes. There's nothing to take issue with.
@rjroy3 I am reviving it. Because of the nonsensical conversations about feminism.
If these men who are so threatened by it, would just focus on what they think manhood is, independent of women, maybe they would realize feminism was never about them.
Feminism is just a natural reaction of women not depending on men for safety and livelihood anymore. It happens in any society that advances far enough. If women don't need men anymore for above reason, of course they will start wanting 'their share of the pie', meaning power and status. If a war did happen that throws civilization back far enough and women would have to rely on men again feminism would die out by default. That's why guys shouldn't be so salty because of feminism. It's just like a teenage girl throwing a hissyfit because she wants her pie.
@Chris_Humble I don't see it like that. I just don't understand why should I worry about a woman challenging me?
In my field, I feel I am more than capable. In my relationships, I feel very comfortable with my role.
If women have more access to opportunities, I don't understand how that is similar to a pie. My slice won't change in size. And if it did. . . wouldn't that be my fault?
8. A masculine man is not lazy, he is trying his best to strive, work hard and get better.
13. A manly man doesn't whine and complain, he doesn't bother others with his problems.
22. A manly man takes responsibility and doesn't blame things on others.
HCG. . . only at GaG would you hear such nonsense. The men here complain. But the minute you want to talk about being a man irrespective of women, too many here do not know what you are talking about.
And you see how I do the women here on this subject. I dismiss them. They can't tell us how to be men. They can't give us any foundation for manhood.
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Why you put these hashtags : #feminism #womensissues
Men don't give a shit about feminism or women issues !
We rather deal with it individually !!!
And that's the best real man trait !!!
Don't define yourself by others.
Where were you during the 500 or so mytakes and questions started by men to complain about feminism?
That's why I included those tags. I wanted to bring those men here.
Feminism doesn't help you to be masculine !
I guess you are not able to grasp the point. Because you keep repeating my point.
Right, that is exactly what the take is about. The take is about stating what you think masculinity is. . . then seeking to embody those traits.
Feminism was not mentioned once. And was only listed as a hashtag because of the men who continually talk about how feminism makes them like they are not men anymore.
You can keep repeating it. . . pretending that is not what the take is about.
I guess you have you way. . .
id honeslty have cancer than feminism
@qwer3cdfsetg I know. Feminists make you feel less of man.
Poor pitiful pathetic guy. . . I feel bad for you.
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@RolandCuthbert Really !!! I just said don't define yourself by others.
you sound miserable man that put his values to women opinions of him !!!
Good luck kid.
Stop being butthurt when someone don't agree with you !!!
That's the first masculine trait you can learn.
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Good good...
Men are not the greatest students? I beg to differ lmao. I'm very proud of my GPA bruh 🤓
I don't mean school necessarily. But hey feel free to disagree and to add your own list of traits as well.
I just want you to think about what you manhood and how it is defined.
None of these are bad traits. Men do not need to define themselves independent of women. You can define yourself independent of other people.
Uhm, that is the point of the mytake.
you shoulda titled this mytake as "what men should be and act like according to me"
Yes, that is exactly what the title is. Now it is your turn.
So what do you think men should be like and act like?
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that's not what the title is. I dont care for how/what men should be/act like. If ur an adult with cock, balls and ur sex chromosomes are XY then congrats cuz ur a man.
Madam, that is basically the title. I ask what are masculine traits of everyone who is visiting here. You don't what a man is or should be. So if you are not a lesbian, you might be in for a very difficult life.
But good luck!
Thanks for your input!
the title is "what are masculine traits" alluding to the fact that this should be universal; when in reality all these traits you mentioned that "real men" should be is all subjective and this is pretty much all ur opinion. Hence why I stated you should change the title to "what men should be like ACCORDING TO ME"
& not im not gay nor do I have trouble but thanks for the unsolicited warning
"the title is "what are masculine traits" alluding to the fact that this should be universal; "
Uhm actually no. I am asking everyone for what they think masculine traits are. As for saying "real men" of course it is subjective. This is my opinion. If you have an opinion perhaps you could share it. If you are afraid, then why not move on. Actually, why post in the first place?
Do you dispute that there are traits men embody more?
Either way, this is neither here nor there. The take is my opinion which I plainly state. And I ask the question of all posters here.
You just seem to be needing some attention.
I can't play with you today.
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I posted cuz this mytake is retarded lol and I treat people as individuals, not tar people with the same brush. Also I didn't see you stating that this is all your opinion in ur take itself
"They can't even articulate what they think a man is supposed to stand for."
Why does a man have to stand for something? Also you stated you weretalking about "real men not jerks" so what does that mean, male jerks aren't men? Then what are they fam? unicorns?
Lol can't play with me today? h i l a r i o u s man
is that how you respond to legit criticisms? by petty insults? lol that's not very logical man, you don't even follow the shit you wrote on ur own take.
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your memes are as shitty as ur debate skills.
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being a 'man' and being 'masculine' are two different things. now, don't throw a hissy fit, cupcake.
@Chris_Humble its all subjective cupcake
She has nothing to add here. Just like butt-hurt guys at a gathering of feminists. . . asking. . .
"What about my needs?"
can't you read? I already added what I needed to here based on my previous replies yet you couldn't help but post memes from 2010 cuz u suck
You are just a little child. . . looking for playmates. That's all.
Men talking about what makes them masculine is no threat to you. And if you think it is, we simply don't care.
you failed to address anything I said and resorted to deflecting and attacking my age, colour me surprised. Just an fyi, I'm not threatened by your notion of "masculinity", just your stupidity
Yes, because it has to be your age that is affecting your ability to process facts. Men need to talk about what makes them men. They need to talk about their unique issues. They need to talk about their emotions and their challenges.
And they will do that here.
With or without your consent, care, tears, support or concern.
You simply don't matter enough in this conversation.
@AngelicSin
What do you think of my stated position?
lmao where the fuck did I say men can't talk about their masculinity? You wanna point out where I said that shit Mr. I-can-process-facts?
Well, you are here. . . whining about what we are discussing. And you are doing it just like you matter.
And while I can entertain input from women who are mature and show the intellect to understand the importance that men have these types of discussions, I am not prepared to listen to you. You think you can dictate to us what should be important to us when it comes to defining manhood. That's as silly as men thinking they can define feminine qualities and define what issues women should be concerned about or work on.
Essentially it is none of our business. And it is not within our experience. We are not women, we have not lived as women. We don't need access birth control pills to help regulate our periods. We don't breastfed children.
We have a different set issues and concerns. And trying to get in the middle of our conversations with your limited perspective does not help. It would help if you learned to listen to men when we talk about us.
oh my fucking god, you have the reading comprehension of spoiled milk. Literally all I pointed out was that defining masculinity is entirely subjective and the title of this mytake doesn't illustrate that hence my initial opinion. To quote what I stated earlier back when this mytake was even relevant lmao: "that's not what the title is. I dont care for how/what men should be/act like. If ur an adult with cock, balls and ur sex chromosomes are XY then congrats cuz ur a man" - which is a biological fact which I'm sure you can process right?
Otherwise, when it comes to men describing what they think are "masculine" traits, I don't give a fuck. Also, another fyi, I don't breastfeed or use BC pills
Yawn. . . all you did was? Come on little have some courage to stand by your first post to me. As though I claimed to know what masculine traits were for every man. I don't. I can only submit my biased cultural subjective view. And I encouraged other males to do the same. Then here came you. A woman not willing to listen and who claims victimhood in a discussion between men about what traits make up manhood.
All you are doing now is jibber jabber. So what is your point? Why are you here?
And you say you don't breastfeed or use BC pills? Are you saying you are a man? Am I supposed to offer congratulations?
You may not have had children, you may not have breastfed, you may not take birth control pills.
The point is those issues you can have. I will never have them. I will never get pregnant. I will never take birth control pills. I will never breastfed therefore I will never have any of the issues/concerns that go with those objective facts of life.
claiming victimhood where exactly? I don't know where ur making this shit up from lol and if you could read properly, you'll have realized my initial response to you pretty much highlights the subjective nature of this question your mytake is addressing. All I'm doing now is repeating myself over and over again because you're too dense to comprehend something so simple.
"And you say you don't breastfeed or use BC pills? Are you saying you are a man?"
lmao smdh
Yes. . ."victimhood". What else do you call a woman, who thinks her ignorant opinions on manhood should matter in this conversation? Why do we have to care about what you have to say? Do you find that I am awfully opinionated on women's issues?
And I think it is just very revealing. Because you are not talking about anything. My take is subjective? Yes. . . the village idiot in the next town can see it is subjective. That's my point to other men. To come here and talk about what they think masculine traits are. Because men have to figure out how to be men, without the guidance of women's rights or lack thereof.
But you are so immature you can't figure that out. And you are so nonsensical, you are hard to talk to.
I can only arrive at the conclusion that this is not about discussion. You simply wanted some attention.
"the village idiot in the next town can see it is subjective." if that was the case, then this stupid conversation would have died out a long time ago (and it did) but you had to rehash this shit again so if anyone is looking for attention here, it's you. And holy fuck I've had to repeat myself so many goddamn times because if you could actually read, you would have understood that this ENTIRE time, my point has literally been that the title of your mytake doesn't reflect your intentions with said mytake (which you stated was for men "to come here and talk about what they think masculine traits are.") - so simple yet you're still too daft to understand.
"Do you find that I am awfully opinionated on women's issues?" I don't give a fuck if you are or aren't and it has nothing to do with this convo, stop deflecting.
And no, you evidently don't know what "victimhood" means.
So you do want some attention. Dude, if you stopped posting me yesterday, I would not care if I cared or not. Why in the world does the conversation have to die out little one?
Why do I have to care about what you are saying? You can't tell a man what masculine traits are. That's the simple point.
You are not a man.
Men must discover what masculinity means for themselves, independent of any input from women. If that wasn't clear to you from reading the my take it is only because you lack reading skills. Even the men who disagreed with me, read the take.
And I didn't post you. You posted me like you are important in this conversation. You are not. You are just a little girl, who can type out profanity laced posts. Oh my. . . so shocking!!!
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I mentioned women's issues, because I don't have women's issues. There my opinion on is not needed nor is it wanted.
That is not a deflection. That is called truth. When you mature, you will understand.
your reply is so bafflingly stupid it doesn't even deserve a proper response.
But you spent weeks talking to me.
So your opinion is worth its weight in doody.
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Now run along. . .
that doesn't make any sense but it's not like I can expect anything with substance or basic intelligence from you.
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They are not subjective. Men are suposed to be like this. Or at least they should
@ThisIsMyOpinion I don't know if all men should aspire to what I listed. But I wanted to have a conversation about what the different men at GaG thought were masculine traits.
It didn't go so well.
@ThisIsMyOpinion according to you... = subjectivity
just lol
I said "They are not subjective"
@ThisIsMyOpinion You misunderstood; You said: "They are not subjective. Men are suposed to be like this. Or at least they should" to which I said: "according to you" referring to the traits outlined in this mytake are what men should be like ACCORDING TO YOU. Ergo, my point still stands that the entire nature of this is subjective. I don't understand how anyone would fail to grasp this unless they don't know the concept of subjectivity.
I understand what you are saying, but I don't agree that this represents what men should be according to me, it is simply the reality. This is how men should be and... ya this is how men should be.
I mean look at the traits mencioned here... How can any of them be up for debate if a men should have or not.
I know each person has is opinion and this is mine, that is why you say the entire nature of this is subjective. That each person has is own defenition of what a men is.
The point is since I can't understand how can anyone argue that any of the traits souldn't be part of a men I fail to see how someone can have an opinion diferent than mine. I know I sound narcissistic and probably an idiot.
@thismyopinion You really don't have to engage her. She isn't here to discuss anything.
The take turned out to be a monumental failure. Probably over half the guys who came here disputed the fact there are even masculine traits. The funny thing is you will find those same men complaining about beta males, feminism, manliness being outlawed, etc. all over the forum.
And the reason is, they feel less masculine when women assert themselves because they feel their power and their definition of being a man only as it relates to women.
And I guess some women with bad intentions realize that basically means, feminism defines them. So they take advantage of that.
I don't understand how some people can say these are not men like characteristics or even feel less masculine when women assert themselves. But oh well
It was a good take. I liked it a lot! Too bad it failed. Still props to you for making it
@OP Lolllllllll that's funny coming from the guy who resorted to deflecting via posting shitty memes and attacking my age in response to my criticisms.
Dude, you don't matter.
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Dude, thanks for proving my point once again.
Yes, we have proven you do not matter in this conversation. And all you wanted was some attention.
lol no, the only thing you proved was that you can't handle criticism by calling those that oppose your opinions as "attention seekers" like a fucking petulant child.
I can't handle criticism? I can handle criticism. I just listen to it from sources that are worth my time.
You aren't worth the time. You don't even understand the conversation. And you think your opinion matters here.
When it absolutely does not. I know a lot of guys here are really worried about feminism and that makes you feel powerful
I am not one of those guys.
I'm not worth your time and yet you've wasted so much of your precious little time posting shitty memes and childish insults to my opinions. Fucking LOL
Wanna point out how I don't understand the conversation? Will you actually respond back intelligently or just continue on with your deflection tactics? Gee, I wonder.
And holy hell, guys worrying about feminism makes me feel powerful? lmao that doesn't even make any sense. The only thing "powering" me right now (so to speak) is your idiocy.
You typed all those words.
And none of those words matter.
Because you don't matter.
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That doesn't sound like men that sounds like being a confident human being
And we are not confident human beings?
R men human beings or no
I know what and who men are. I am one.
You folks seem to get offended because I state what I think are masculine traits. . . as though I claimed men have exclusive ownership over these traits. We could share some with transsexuals. . . that doesn't make them men. Neither does that make us transsexuals. So if you disagree with the list. . . state some traits you think embodies manhood.
You don't see me in some feminist thread telling feminists what it means to be a woman do you?
I'm not offended by masculinity just the things that u mentioned goes well with men and females I guess being a men is more about bring then describing u can't say women r not brave enough strong enough and these r just for men these r for all confident strong human beings men does that and make them manly and women does that and make them confident women u see
You are offended. . .
And weird.
Sorry, but I am not the pitying type. You are offended by what I state I think manhood is about.
And I don't care.
Bye bye!!!
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Fuck u report this 2 stupid the last one was no near offensive if u want offensive I'll fucking make u cry
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Lmfao
masculinity is not caring about your masculinity
Hmmm good one.
how can you strive to become better in something if you don't care about it?
Why is having a victim mentality frowned upon in men more than women?
I am glad you finally figured it out. Most males are GaG don't get it.
It isn't a masculine trait.
So it's a feminine trait then?
I am not a woman. I can't speak to what is feminine or what is not.
I wrote about what is masculine.
What do you think are masculine traits?
That's why I've become a fan of the red pill community, it has changed my perspective
Blue man group. . . I didn't see your post. Just letting you know. . . that has nothing to do with defining masculine traits. If you are trying to say that you define masculinity through watching a bunch of youtube videos, you might be a little crazy.
Ur mom
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Haha!
I loved this! Thank you bro!
None of these qualities are strictly "male" lmao.
So? What difference does that make? We may share some traits with transsexuals. That doesn't make us less men.
Don't be jealous. Just be confident in being a woman. Let men handle that man thing.
and what is the man thing that you handle so well? lmfao.
Well, we own just about everything so I think it is working out pretty well.
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hmmm... sure.
I am just playing with you.
You see. . . being a man, I don't really do the whole emotional thing. I am not being insulting. I am just telling you like it is.
When I listed male qualities. I never said they were exclusive. I said these were qualities that I think embodies manhood. And I encourage everyone, but mostly men, to come here and talk about what qualities that they should be associated with manhood.
Do you have any that you wish to list? Or was this just one of those "drivebys"?
All humans have both masculine and feminine within them. Men just tend to more strongly hold masculine traits and fewer feminine traits, while women on average the opposite is true. The guy made a take about Masculinity, which isn't specific to men. It's just related to men because men tend to be more masculine than feminine on average. But there are a lot of women that are definitely more masculine. It's just not polite to talk about it, because people get offended.
If you say a butch lesbian is any less feminine than say a more mary poppins type woman, then someone is going to get upset. Because they want to say having a vagina makes you feminine while at the same time say sex has no baring on your traits as a person. Ie. masculine and femine. Lol it's just silliness.
It'd be like him making a post (with men in mind), when talking about weight lifting. Yea, it's not exclusive to guys. But obviously of those who lift weight the vast majority are going to be men.
@rjroy3 Hey that is a great way of explaining it. I don't know why certain folks have an issue understanding "masculine" traits are not exclusive to men. They are not owned by men. Men simply embody these traits more.
Thanks!
I took issue with this because I know way more women who embody these traits than men.
Karahiri, that is "your" experience. I don't know way more women who embody these traits. I know a lot of women who think they embody these traits. But they do not.
Yea, personal experience doesn't dictate the external reality of the overall population. That's fine if you happen to know more women than men like that. But on average men tend to hold more masculine traits. Just how it goes. There's nothing to take issue with.
Some are.
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@rjroy3 I am reviving it. Because of the nonsensical conversations about feminism.
If these men who are so threatened by it, would just focus on what they think manhood is, independent of women, maybe they would realize feminism was never about them.
Feminism is just a natural reaction of women not depending on men for safety and livelihood anymore. It happens in any society that advances far enough. If women don't need men anymore for above reason, of course they will start wanting 'their share of the pie', meaning power and status. If a war did happen that throws civilization back far enough and women would have to rely on men again feminism would die out by default.
That's why guys shouldn't be so salty because of feminism. It's just like a teenage girl throwing a hissyfit because she wants her pie.
@Chris_Humble I don't see it like that. I just don't understand why should I worry about a woman challenging me?
In my field, I feel I am more than capable. In my relationships, I feel very comfortable with my role.
If women have more access to opportunities, I don't understand how that is similar to a pie. My slice won't change in size. And if it did. . . wouldn't that be my fault?
8. A masculine man is not lazy, he is trying his best to strive, work hard and get better.
13. A manly man doesn't whine and complain, he doesn't bother others with his problems.
22. A manly man takes responsibility and doesn't blame things on others.
23. A manly man is no victim.
yeah and that's fine. only losers feel threatened by feminism.
nice take
Thank you!
Some of the traits are debatable, but not bad.
Awesome Take Man !
Nice job bro.
But look at the conversations I was having?
Masculine traits do not exist?
Really?
HCG. . . only at GaG would you hear such nonsense. The men here complain. But the minute you want to talk about being a man irrespective of women, too many here do not know what you are talking about.
And you see how I do the women here on this subject. I dismiss them. They can't tell us how to be men. They can't give us any foundation for manhood.
The dudes on GAG are straight b***** who like women to pegged them... what you expect from these cucks?
Might as well label this "Human Traits"
Okay. Let me help you.
So if these are the "universal", tell us the traits you think men embody or embody more.
You can type a list. It is a allowed.
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Well they do have the tendency to be physically stronger and analyze more I believe.
Yep. I would agree. You can type more. Again, it is allowed.
That should just be about it!
Interesting myTake